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cut
09-26-2003, 09:34 PM
article/book extract from the sun

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,5-2003442574,00.html


anyone seen this BDU before?

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2003441182,00.jpg
EvanL
09-26-2003, 09:44 PM
If its from afghanistan, its probably the Jordanian forces that they sent there. they used american BDU's and have m16's. The head-dress is also a giveaway. The Jordanian spec-forces, have to be Bedoin Tribesman. And i believe that is the head dress that bedoins wear.
Jack Mehoff
09-26-2003, 09:46 PM
I believe some SAS wear that rag on their heads too. Maybe they are trying to blend in with the local population. Yes, there are black people in British armed forces :lol:
ScopeScene
09-26-2003, 09:47 PM
fascinating story -- thanks for the post!
EvanL
09-26-2003, 09:51 PM
No but i have seen that uniform in a book being worn by jordanian special forces. It looks like there new Gore-Tex fabric.
cut
09-26-2003, 09:58 PM
I'm thinking it might just be something from a film/documentary about one SAS story or another, in which case it wouldn't really matter where it's from. and that guy is definately not black, just look at his hands.
Gringo
09-27-2003, 06:39 AM
I'd say that pic is for some botched documentary or someone else coz that isn't SAS. I remember one of on Bravo Two Zero the SAS were wearing US 3 colour desert BDU.
1. It's 1991, 3 colour desert didn't exist yet
2. SAS don't wear 3 colour desert
Micke
09-27-2003, 07:42 AM
Is that an M16A1? :|
rangerone
09-27-2003, 10:06 AM
The 3 color desert pattern BDUs did exist in 1991. They were just not issued to troops. I guess it was in the experimental stage. But, some Force Recon Marines did wear the 3 color pattern BDU into Iraq, but no photos exist of it :(
Gringo
09-27-2003, 11:00 AM
The 3 color desert pattern BDUs did exist in 1991. They were just not issued to troops. I guess it was in the experimental stage. But, some Force Recon Marines did wear the 3 color pattern BDU into Iraq, but no photos exist of it :(

my mistake.
Gringo
09-27-2003, 11:28 AM
One heroic al-Qa段da darted from trench to trench as the SAS advanced, firing his rocketpropelled grenades at the British attackers. He was better at ducking shots than firing them.

I don't like the description of the Al Qa'ida fighter as heroic as there is nothing heroic about terrorism.
NcDeuce
09-27-2003, 04:03 PM
The guy in the picture isn't black, lol. But yes, there are black SAS members. There are black U.S. Special Forces guys, Rangers, and Delta too, just as there are plenty of Asian, European, Hispanic, or Middle-Eastern guys in Special Operations.
One?
09-27-2003, 04:30 PM
No but i have seen that uniform in a book being worn by jordanian special forces. It looks like there new Gore-Tex fabric.

Evan is right. I saw a similar picture with the same pattern. They were the new Jordanian Gor-text BDUs. I believe the article also mentioned that they were made somewhere in Israel (ill try to find the article again.).
Gordon
09-27-2003, 05:18 PM
One heroic al-Qa段da darted from trench to trench as the SAS advanced, firing his rocketpropelled grenades at the British attackers. He was better at ducking shots than firing them.

I don't like the description of the Al Qa'ida fighter as heroic as there is nothing heroic about terrorism.

So how were they meant to describe. If it is as the Sun says it was and this guy basically held of the attacking troopers for 45 odd minutes then surely that was quite a feat, no matter who he was. So should they have described the bloke as a yellow-bellied cowardly, sadistic asshole for the part he played in the fight? His actions were heroic, just as in any war you get hero's on both sides, is this any different.
specialairservice
09-27-2003, 05:41 PM
This photo is of [/url]www.militarypicturelibrary.com it says in the caption that it is an actor/model acting as a special forces trooper.
Saranof
09-28-2003, 08:34 AM
One heroic al-Qa段da darted from trench to trench as the SAS advanced, firing his rocketpropelled grenades at the British attackers. He was better at ducking shots than firing them.

I don't like the description of the Al Qa'ida fighter as heroic as there is nothing heroic about terrorism.


Ok then...
"As the heroic and brave british boys fought for freedom, one dastardly towelheaded falafel chomper foolishly ran across the field, obviously attempting to sacrifice himself for allah. The pathetic charge was soon stopped by the hand of God, carried out by the SAS."
cut
09-28-2003, 11:12 AM
One heroic al-Qa段da darted from trench to trench as the SAS advanced, firing his rocketpropelled grenades at the British attackers. He was better at ducking shots than firing them.

I don't like the description of the Al Qa'ida fighter as heroic as there is nothing heroic about terrorism.


Ok then...
"As the heroic and brave british boys fought for freedom, one dastardly towelheaded falafel chomper foolishly ran across the field, obviously attempting to sacrifice himself for allah. The pathetic charge was soon stopped by the hand of God, carried out by the SAS."

nah, that sounds more americans
Vance
09-28-2003, 11:23 AM
One heroic al-Qa段da darted from trench to trench as the SAS advanced, firing his rocketpropelled grenades at the British attackers. He was better at ducking shots than firing them.

I don't like the description of the Al Qa'ida fighter as heroic as there is nothing heroic about terrorism.


Ok then...
"As the heroic and brave british boys fought for freedom, one dastardly towelheaded falafel chomper foolishly ran across the field, obviously attempting to sacrifice himself for allah. The pathetic charge was soon stopped by the hand of God, carried out by the SAS."
Well done. :D
Gringo
09-28-2003, 01:19 PM
Look they could havd said he was brave, but heroic, no!!! I was just voicing my oppinion, ok u have a different oppinion but u just like to take the piss because it's different.
Now STFU! :fork:
Saranof
09-28-2003, 01:49 PM
Look they could havd said he was brave, but heroic, no!!! I was just voicing my oppinion, ok u have a different oppinion but u just like to take the piss because it's different.
Now STFU! :fork:

Me? takin the piss? never! :)

It was heroic, if you like see it from the al qaeda point of vien, and if certainly was brave...

The fact that he was a foockin terrorist, well, thats another story...
The SAS won though ;)
Gringo
09-28-2003, 02:35 PM
yeah well that's true. Just these stupid reporters and media.
Also, since when have u been scottish?
walford
09-28-2003, 09:13 PM
Is that an M16A1? :|

The guy wearing the BDUs and the kaffyeh is carrying an M16 w/an m203 grenade launcher attached.http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/assault/car15/m203-alone.jpg

http://www.scottsdalegunclub.com/Firearms/ColtM16.html
The above website says that the A2 model was the first to use the Colt-designed launcher, but it could be attached to all M16/CAR15 models.

Particularly useful for negotiating heavy traffic.