FARC - Colombia

[jdbjdb]

Why does America allow the FARC to choke America with it's drugs? Yes America has a serious drug problem, the source needs to be cut off! When I take a step back and look around, I'm thinking America is in deep ****, teens these days would reather smoke pot and shove mdma up their ass all day long. God help us!

[Saranof]

Strange, the US can bomb any random middle east country, but when drugs are in the game, they don't...

[Jooglae]

Perhaps that's because the narcotics problem has been around for so long, they now assume that whatever they do, the traffickings won't stop. Korea's recently suffering the same problem, with foreigners bringing so much marijuana and hashish into here.

Perhaps drugs are becoming another social evil, like prostitution.

[Haiw]

i know half the people will consider our policy to be a 'leftish loonatic' policy, but it has clearly shown that legalising softdrugs has lowered drug(ab)use a LOT over here in the netherlands. even the french bash our drug-policy all the time, but research has shown that our policy leads to less drug-use and drug-related problems than in france! (hard-drugs are still illegal btw)

[warchild1/27scout]

Strange, the US can bomb any random middle east country, but when drugs are in the game, they don't...drugs keep the liberals dumb. :D

[Saranof]

Strange, the US can bomb any random middle east country, but when drugs are in the game, they don't...drugs keep the liberals dumb. :D

and the conservatives payed...

[Ratamacue]

Strange, the US can bomb any random middle east country, but when drugs are in the game, they don't...

You know, there's a pretty big "war on drugs" going on in the US right now, believe it or not. I would know, I've seen plenty of people from my HS arrested, and believe me, dealers get absolutely NO mercy.

[Saranof]

Strange, the US can bomb any random middle east country, but when drugs are in the game, they don't...

You know, there's a pretty big "war on drugs" going on in the US right now, believe it or not. I would know, I've seen plenty of people from my HS arrested, and believe me, dealers get absolutely NO mercy.

You said it, IN the US...

[Ratamacue]

Saranof, that is a good point. However, I ask that for just one second you give the benefit of the doubt to our intentions in the middle east. I'm not asking that you believe that, but the state of mind that we are there to defeat terrorism, etc.

Which do you think is a higher priority? Striving to eliminate terrorism in the world, or ridding the world of drugs? Answers going either way could be justified, but I myself feel terrorism is a more dangerous threat.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Much of any countries weed is grown within its own borders...i know in canada we would toss away any weed that didnt come from our country....good old canada :lol: so you guys can go ahead and bust all the dealers in the states and in columbia but as long as my weed crop stays good im happy woot

[Ratamacue]

You just painted a huge bullseye on your forehead, I think.

[jdbjdb]

I like the Saudi's drug policy, they don't have a drug problem in that country,

The land of cheese & windmills

your country needs rehab and lots of it, and Canada's also has a drug problem, Canada also allows terrorist into their country and don't bother to track them,

[EvanL]

Dont accuse us of allowing terrorist into our country and not tracking the. Your government in february 2002 sent the Visa confirmation to the hijackers that killed themselves and countless other innocent lives on sept.11th.
Your country hase homegrown terrorists. For examply, KKK, Black Panthers, Aryan Brotherhood, anti-abortionists, and im sure even gangs like crips and bloods could be considered terrorists.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

rehab are u serious??? We smoke weed. Its not like smoking crack or doing speed man get a grip. Im sure there are "terrorists" in every country according to america, so like i said as long as i can smoke my weed im happy :D

[jdbjdb]

Dont accuse us of allowing terrorist into our country and not tracking them
I already did

Your country hase homegrown terrorists. For examply, KKK, Black Panthers, Aryan Brotherhood, anti-abortionists, and im sure even gangs like crips and bloods could be considered terrorists
And Canada is full of Libreals

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

O.k. Living outside of the united states there is a few things that i dont understand about the u.s. way of thinking....A: how does terrorism get all mixed up in a posting about drugs and the war on drugs in other countries...It seems lately americans are quick to blame everything on terrorists...hell the sun could turn black and they'd have the blame on osama within 10 minutes....B: why does canadians being liberals have anything to do with terrorists??

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Your country hase homegrown terrorists. For examply, KKK, Black Panthers, Aryan Brotherhood, anti-abortionists, and im sure even gangs like crips and bloods could be considered terrorists

And Canada is full of Libreals
Ya buddy nice comeback, because liberals...beware because liberals always stap themselves with bombs and blow **** up. hey jdbjdb when u make a post please try to make a point, otherwise shut your mouth

[Haiw]

your country needs rehab and lots of it, and Canada's also has a drug problem, Canada also allows terrorist into their country and don't bother to track them,

wtf is rehab? (english is not my first language...)

[jdbjdb]

It wasn't meant to be a comeback

[martinexsquaddie]

well having worked with street addicts never the brightest and the best people. But I've never ever had them Ranting I can't buy Drugs ever.
This is a small coastal town in the UK not a port SO if homeless addicts can score illegal drugs day in day out 24/7 I think we have lost the WAR on Drugs. all it needs is a junkie to climb the reichstag with a flag(if they could be arsed :lol:)
Compared to Alcohol a lot of illegal drugs are much less lethal.
The problem is people want to take drugs otherwise there would not be a market for them.
at the turn of the centuary 1900s you could buy heroin Cocaine and dope legally over the counter in the UK every crackdown has caused more crime. I thought the US with its history of prohibition would have learned the lesson.

[Haiw]

well legalizing the harmless softdrugs HAS proved to solve a lot of problems (and actually led to LESS use and abuse)...of course harddrugs need to stay forbidden cus they can screw up yer brain big big time...
just my (& my goverments) 2 cents..

[jdbjdb]

well legalizing the harmless softdrugs HAS proved to solve a lot of problems
That is what we Americans call Bull****!, your government claims that, while your pot heads sell coke haerion x acid speed etc. etc. you claim legalizing marijuana has kept others from moving on to the harder drugs total bull****

[Haiw]

That is what we Americans call Bull****!, your government claims that, while your pot heads sell coke haerion x acid speed etc. etc. you claim legalizing marijuana has kept others from moving on to the harder drugs total bull****

this is what we dutchies call (translated) an ignorant ****....
its just plain facts; legalising soft drugs sale (and of course, partially regulating), like weed and hash has reduced total drugrelated problems....and the selling of hard drugs is still totally illegal... now where do u get your 'facts' that we sell hard drugs? oooh wait...from the same spot ur head is; ur ass...

[martinexsquaddie]

The US war on drugs is a Total Failure the prisons are filling up and are people stopping using drugs er no so now what :(
The Dutch are trying something Diffrent
Most english coppers would like to see cannibis legalized as its a waste of time nicking people for possesion

[Haiw]

US drug policy is pretty much as effective as the alcohol prohibation in the 30's....

[Ratamacue]

Dutch drug policy is just about as effective as doing nothing...oh right, there isn't one.

[jdbjdb]

The United States could stop drugs cold if we wanted to, but we would have to resort to harsh tatics.

and the selling of hard drugs is still totally illegal...
Yes its illegal, but they do it anyway, we should adotp the drug policy they have in Saudi Arabia, they beheaded two men last month for trafficing herion. People who sell drugs (poision) to make money and support terrorism, should get a death sentenced, after all thats what they give people by selling them drugs.

[Haiw]

Yes its illegal, but they do it anyway,

oooh riiiight u have such a laaaarge experience on the dutch drug circuit :roll: hard drugs sales here are less than anywhere else....

[Haiw]

Dutch drug policy is just about as effective as doing nothing...oh right, there isn't one.

actually it's not; while it keep people away from hard drugs, it also ensures 'quality' at the soft drugs, making it a lot less dangerous for everyone.... compare it to the alcohol prohibation in russia; they prohibited alcohol.. so what did all the heavy drinkers do? they made their own alcohol...result: only problems and unnecessary deaths...
this way the problems with (btw harmless) softdrugs are put to a halt, and legalising soft drugs has kept people away from harddrugs (and its problems)

[Haiw]

oh and i got another BIG argument:

the french don't like our policy...

(shudnt that automatically make u americans like our policy? ;) :lol:)

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

ok jdbjdb we already know you lack chromosomes but saying how weed shouldnt be legalised because People who sell drugs (poision) to make money and support terrorism, should get a death sentenced, after all thats what they give people by selling them drugs
If I may say so canada in B.C. possesion of pot under 30 grams (an ounce) is legal and officers wont take your weed away. Its a smart idea, saves the government plenty of $ in the courts and frees up the courts to do more and better things. The way jdbjdb talks I think he's been watching too many of those anti-drug commercials on T.V. Were I live people grow there own dope to smoke they dont really sell it...so does that make them "terrorists" and should they be "beheaded" for it? I dont think so. So have fun trying to get that law passed.

As for cocaine dealers and herion dealers they do get busted. Living on Vancouver Island we get alot of herion shipped in from overseas. It is pure pretty much and cause's alot of overdose's....so the people that do that pretty much end up killing themselves :cantbeli:

[DPGLAW]

FYI....You shouldn't talk about your "crop" anywhere, that includes online. You never know who else is on the BB. Talk about buying **** iis one thing, but growing...thats something that you want to be real quiet about

[DPGLAW]

I am new to this forum as evidenced by my # of posts and signup date. However, out of all the people that seem to post regularly, you are the only one who has NEVER said anything which was even remotely intelligent. I mean at least try, it actually hurts my brain trying to understand how you could possibly come up with what you jsut said. Sorry if you think im rude but you seem to agitate everyone on here and this is an excellent BB to elarn about the military in addition to having great pics, but you take it away by being such a moron. well everyone sorry about the rant but it is really annoying

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

"FYI....You shouldn't talk about your "crop" anywhere, that includes online. You never know who else is on the BB. Talk about buying **** iis one thing, but growing...thats something that you want to be real quiet about"
not really because its legalised here so i have no fear about talking about any of this online, not alot that can be done

[usa320]

I say we give FARC a ****load of cash drugs and prisoner exchange so they will give us our pilots back. Then i say we blow the ever loving **** out of them, all courtesy of:

http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/web/web_030813-F-8888W-006.jpg

[Flagg]

Down here Marijuana is likely to be decriminalized......but I think the biggest stumbling block in allowing police to focus on more serious drugs problems like "P" Methamphetamine which is a huge problem down here is the following:

if your drunk and drive...it can be accurately measured

but if your stoned and drive...can it be accurately measured other than just positive/negative for THC in the urine, bloodstream, or hair follicle?

So how can/does law enforcement measure marijuana impairment?

If that question can be accurately and instantly answered then I think it may eventually bring decriminalization to the litigous US.....but if it can't be accurately and instantly measured...forget it.

But in the end...you can't prevent people from doing anything they really want to do.....

[SOG]

your country needs rehab and lots of it, and Canada's also has a drug problem, Canada also allows terrorist into their country and don't bother to track them,

wtf is rehab? (english is not my first language...)

rehabilitation. you go to a rehab of sorts to break addictions from ***, drugs, depression, anxiety, alcohol etc.




Your country hase homegrown terrorists. For examply, KKK, Black Panthers, Aryan Brotherhood, anti-abortionists, and im sure even gangs like crips and bloods could be considered terrorists.


how are they terrorists? there hatefull and spitefull and when they cross the line are simply taken out or the fbi investigates them and busts them down. believing a certain way doesnt make you a terrorist. commiting hate crimes makes you a criminal, not a terrorist. since when were anti abortionists terrorists? so a few go los lunes and shoot someone and now there considered terrorists? huh? stupid drug dealing gangs who fight each other and "gat" each other, terrorists? look up the word retard. just because society has reacuring violent problems doesnt mean the problems are terrorist associated.

if your saying it is terrorism because innocents die in the crossfire well then hell, liberators of any country are terrorists because innocents always get nailed here and there.

terrorist -
a person who uses or favours violent and intimidating methods of coercing a government or community.

in the past gangs might have terrorized the blacks in alabama or in the wild wild west but today they get shot down and broken down fast. most gangs today are scattered kiddie clubs with 22's who peddle crack and intimidate eachother. and no gangs coeherce anybody today but neighbors and street peddlers. organized crime ala the mafia could be concieved as terrorism on a bare level and they are constantly broken by the fbi.


as for marijuana, ive met a lot of people who took it, didnt like it, ive met some who still like it, to tell you the truth, those who like it seem a bit..... distant or wierd" but then again they use semi heavily.

the problem is its a gateway drug which leads into all other drugs. now the idea behind prohibiting it is to keep those who dont have the control not to stop themselves from going further. if you prohibit mary jane then something bad health wise (and somewhat orientation wise for a time) wont be able to tempt or start people on a path to harder drugs.

now the bitch is this would work BUT the US doesnt do enough to keep mary jane out, so in the end so much gets through the people who shouldnt try it do and go deeper. this whole idea might work on some levels if we could keep the majority of MJ out. unforteantly this whole policy and how it works is a backfired unnefective joke from the 60's and is wholly innefective due to how easy it is to get weed in the US.

legallizing it may not be overly bad although youd have to have laws about consumption etc. i know 1 joint wont get you "whipped" but a certain amount will just like alcohol so there would be certain laws about that. as it is unless we re-waged a hellish war on the cartels aint **** gonna happen to save people from drugs. might be a good idea and curb millions or billions off terrorism and crime supported avenues that the dealers dabble in. i know youve seen those dum ass commercials "drugs support terrorism" etc and they seem ike a dime a dozen dork ass anti MJ ad, but in the end some drug money does and sadly that gets some off and they buy and toke more MJ till thier eyes haze yellow.

interestinly enough that show "24" is going to cover something about going after a drug dealer and the drug dealer uses his money in retaliation against the US with terrorism. should be hypothetically fun.

[martinexsquaddie]

Dope isn't really a Gateway Drug.
I've worked with Crack and Heroin addicts some Have'nt tried Dope at all others hate it. I know a lot of People who smoke the odd joint now and then but hold down jobs.
The WAR ON DRUGS is a failure its not a war that can be won By force of arms. ther last President smoked Dope This ones a recovered Addict.
I'm not saying Drugs are a good thing But sending Delta and Gunships after Dope Growers or meth labs isn't going to work.
Drugs are here to stay People not just addicts use them better figure out how to control and limit the damage rather than attempt the impossable to eradicate drug use. It did'nt work to well with alcohol did it.