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NcDeuce
09-29-2003, 04:53 PM
This is old news, but still very interesting.

Delta's down with it
The Justice Department and the elite Delta Force pushed for Seattle crackdown against WTO protesters.
BY RICK ANDERSON

It wasn't merely the Secret Service that wanted Seattle secure before President Clinton arrived for his World Trade Organization visit December 1 (see "Protesters riot, police riot," SW, 12/2). Two separate sources now say the crackdown on demonstrators was pushed hardest by the US Justice Department based on the concerns of undercover units in the streets--among them, members of the secretive US Army Delta Force seeking to prevent terrorist chemical attacks in Seattle. The Delta contingent, known for its clandestine global assaults and rescue operations, has quietly been assigned some domestic security roles--such as its recently revealed involvement in the Branch Davidian standoff.

"They thought the security preparations here were the worst they've ever seen," says a former Special Forces Ranger who met with the Delta contingent.

Seattle Mayor Paul Schell has accepted the blame for the costly WTO security breakdown after initially insisting the city was so prepared for the marches and demonstrations that Seattleites should come downtown and shop. Instead, out-of-control rioting one day led to a violent show of force by local, state, and federal officers the next. In the following days, 600 demonstrators were arrested and downtown was virtually deserted, with businesses suffering an estimated $20 million in lost sales and property damages (much of it covered by insurance).

A Justice official asking anonymity confirms the elite Army special force, operating under its cover name of Combat Applications Group (CAG), was in Seattle a week in advance of the Clinton visit to scope out possible terrorist acts. Under the control of the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, the contingent took up residence in a Regrade motel and fanned out downtown dressed as demonstrators, some wearing their jungle greens.

The potential terrorist chemical or bomb attacks never materialized in Seattle as a serious threat, says an official. But using high-tech equipment, the force mapped out potential problem areas as well as identified possible violent demonstrators. Some Deltas wore lapel cameras, continuously transmitting pictures of rioters and other demonstrators to a master video unit in the motel command center, which could be used by law enforcement agencies to identify and track suspects. (Coincidentally, apparently, the FBI last week was holding a terrorist suspect who entered the US at the Port Angeles crossing. Officials said he carried a bomb timing mechanism and an explosive liquid that might have been intended for a major Seattle bombing--the Space Needle?--on New Year's Eve. The suspect, curiously, had made a reservation and planned to stay, as the Deltas did, at a Regrade motel.)

Department of Defense undersecretary Walter Slocombe has acknowledged that covert action teams such as Delta Force are deployed to combat terrorism.

"These guys are the Army hot shots, the cowboys," says the former Ranger who shared a few beers with the unit in Seattle. "They were wigged out about security here. They thought something drastic had to be done. I'd say they got heard."

California Joe
09-29-2003, 05:12 PM
"A Justice official asking anonymity confirms the elite Army special force, operating under its cover name of Combat Applications Group (CAG), was in Seattle a week in advance of the Clinton visit to scope out possible terrorist acts."

You know, where I work we are up to our ass in OPSEC warnings and threats constantly and I'm really sick of reading **** like this in the papers.Apparently the biggest Government organizations like Justice, Pentagon, Congress...etc can't keep their frigging mouths closed.

warchild1/27scout
09-29-2003, 08:57 PM
well, no**** genius. how do you think bin laden learned not to use his telephone. some freakin dumbass democrat screws up again.

Saranof
09-30-2003, 12:12 PM
well, no**** genius. how do you think bin laden learned not to use his telephone. some freakin dumbass democrat screws up again.

Yeah, its of course, the demokrats fault :roll:

California Joe
09-30-2003, 06:34 PM
WTF? Are you Rush Limbaugh? I was lamenting the fact that assheads are violating OPSEC guidelines and you make it poitical? Did it occur to you that the press got similar stories during Clintons administration?

Gordon
09-30-2003, 07:59 PM
well, no**** genius. how do you think bin laden learned not to use his telephone. some freakin dumbass democrat screws up again.

Come off it man, that's ridiculous. It's been common knowledge for a while that mobile / satellite telephones can be traced. Trying to blame the fact that Bin Laden didn't use his phone on some democrat breaking OPSEC is farcical ... rofl ... loose the political chip on your shoulder mate and check out the facts.

maw
10-01-2003, 09:25 AM
delta being used as an instrument of domestic policy. infiltrating demonstrator meetings, etc. they were also used as advisors at waco.
hmmm. what's the correct legal term, something about exceeding constitutional capacity?

Zach R.
10-01-2003, 09:48 AM
Actually, it was the democrats. Just not in the way you think. Clinton's dealings with China, N. Korea, and several other Asian countries were supplied with nukes, vital intel that completely destroyed national security.

warchild1/27scout
10-01-2003, 12:32 PM
zach you are right, it was the dems. they are just ignorant in national security but calif. joe your right too. i have been very frustrated at democrats tearing down our war effort in iraq just so they can get the presidency back again. the bad thing is it is so transparent that most americans just think they're plain fools and anti-american. even a ny democrat congressman said they are over the top and said bush is who he wants chasing the terrorists down and not to mention dem-ed koch who said he's voting for bush. it comes down to do you trust howard dean to fight terror with his slogan "the best way to fight terrorism is to give americans healthcare" .:roll:

StarvingStudent47
10-01-2003, 08:07 PM
zach you are right, it was the dems. they are just ignorant in national security but calif. joe your right too. i have been very frustrated at democrats tearing down our war effort in iraq just so they can get the presidency back again. the bad thing is it is so transparent that most americans just think they're plain fools and anti-american. even a ny democrat congressman said they are over the top and said bush is who he wants chasing the terrorists down and not to mention dem-ed koch who said he's voting for bush. it comes down to do you trust howard dean to fight terror with his slogan "the best way to fight terrorism is to give americans healthcare" .:roll:

No, but I trust Wesley Clark to fight terrorism, and Clark will probably beat Dean for the Democratic nomination.

Howard Dean is a nutcase. I'm a die-hard Democrat and I don't deny that for a second. His beliefs represent the Green Party more than the Democratic Party.

JiJoMacLE45
10-01-2003, 08:08 PM
Title 18, Section 1835 of your federal code boys and girls.