IDEX'2003 (Abu Dhabi)

[Kingpin]

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl411.jpg


South African Ratel preparing for demonstration

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl421.jpg


Swimming BMP-3

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl431.jpg


Humvee failed to drive through obstacle...

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl4910.jpg


...while Russian made Tiger succeded

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl4920.jpg


Chezh Tatra. Very good responses from gulf countries' military

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl441.jpg


"Flying Holland" Russian KAMAZ. New one for Emirates' army

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl4930.jpg


Belorussian heavy transporter Volat with two French tanks

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl451.jpg


Italian Centauro 8 x 8 - HITFACT 120 mm showed yourself very good at demonstration

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl4940.jpg


2T Stalker - Belorussian light recon vehicle uses "stealth" technology - low radar visibility, low thermal signature, low noise level, state of the art recon equipment.

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl4950.jpg


Iordanian fighting vehicle Temsah

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl491.jpg


Russian BMP-3

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl401.jpg


Saudi BMP AL FAHD-240/30

[GazB]

That picture of the 2T is nice... in addition to the obvious 30mm cannon it also has retractible launchers in its turret for twin Igla (SAM) and twin Vikhr (ATGM) launchers.

[Co17]

when is the tiger going to be made operational within the russian army

[GazB]

It is believed to be made for export and there is no current money or intention to replace the current light GAZ vehicles in service as far as I know.

[Kingpin]

Don't know. It is very new vehicle - it was rolled out at the end of 2002.

[REMOV]

Don't know. It is very new vehicle - it was rolled out at the end of 2002.GAZ-2975 Tigr aka HMTV (High Mobility Transportation Vehicle)? No, it was introduced in March 2001.

Some photos:
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_17.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_11.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_13.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_15.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_19.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_21.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_23.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_25.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_27.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_29.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_3.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_5.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_7.jpg
http://www.autocitychannel.com/imgnews/img7865_9.jpg

[GLax]

i cant believe that guy got a humvee stuck. :cantbeli: i read in a book about the gulf war (This aint Hell... but you can seee it from here) that the Soldeirs and Marines would play games to see if you could get the humvees stuck... nobody ever did, so nobody ever one. musta been an old lady driving, only possible explination for this fiasco... :petting:

[budanski]

Well, when you're showcasing Russian gear, you have to at least show how inferior U.S. toys are... even if its deliberately driven so. :roll:

[GazB]

"Well, when you're showcasing Russian gear, you have to at least show how inferior U.S. toys are... even if its deliberately driven so."


Hahahahaha... yes, of course, they let a Russian drive their vehicle!!!

Why the heck would they do that?

I guess it must just be those Russian organisers of the International Defence EXhibition... ever since Russia Invaded the United Arab Emirates and started tellingthem who should drive the vehicles at their shows the quality of the driving has gone downhill... :P :P

I'm sure they flew in in balck helos and took the real driver out with some new laser gun... :lol: :lol:

[Kingpin]

Relax boyz. I'm not biasing any information. It was report of eyewitness. He said that Humvee stuck. And Ukranian BTR modification had engine failure (i didn't post this pic). He didn't make comments why this happened.

You can find all photos here:
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl4.htm

There is also written that Tiger actually was developed by request from Emirates and Bin Jabr Group Ltd
Testdrive report here:
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/cavaleria/cav1.htm


And a lot of photos of different vehicles from polygon Bronnitsy
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/fotos/bron2/fotobr2.htm
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/fotos/bron3/fotobr3.htm

[Kingpin]

And it seems that this humvee also stuck ;)

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl1111.jpg

[GazB]

The simple fact is there is no vehicle that cannot get stuck... whether it has wheels or tracks. Only hovercraft can traverse ground too thin to drive over, but too thick to sail through, and even they have problems with gradients and rocks and stuff.

[khukuri]

why not chek out the main site?


http://www.gaz.cz/vyrobek.php?path=4x4&vyrobek=2975_3

chechz--
i dont get ****, maybe somebody else does?

[ibstolidude]

And it seems that this humvee also stuck ;)

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/slovo/sl1111.jpg

Although the HMMWV will get stuck and contrary to popular belief will roll...many of the HMMWV that the UAE (and spanish) use are not in fact the same one issued to US troops..
and the above photo is a poor example as it shows the "up armored" HMMWV that was created with after market add-ons. At that time there was severe suspension, braking and engine cooling issues do the additional weight of the additional armor..

As with any 4x4 you can get stuck but usually it is a result of foolish driving...there is almost always an alternative (keep one side on the grass up out of the muck, or choosing a different approach..use a differnet speed....lower gear or change tire pressure)..an experienced 4x4 driver will choose the path that is with in his vehicles limits.

[budanski]

Yeah, still trying to get the misses to let me take her RX300 out for a spin in the hill country. Fat chance.

[ibstolidude]

hey it's your luxury minivan :lol: - if that's what you want to do.

[REMOV]

why not chek out the main site?http://www.gaz.cz/vyrobek.php?path=4x4&vyrobek=2975_3
Main site of what? Ekhm.. url you've gave it is a Czech GAZ users Fan Club, not official GAZ Factory site, and GAZ is a Russian not Czech made vehicle :D This is the official GAZ web site (with Tiger) http://www.gaz.ru/eng/avt/pers/2330/index.asp

[rob]

also so of note is that the humvee apeared to come up a different way then the tiger.

but what ever it happened and nothing will change that.

[Operation Ivy]

The humvee i sexier looking :D

[GLax]

The humvee i sexier looking :D

i dunno bout that one, the interior of the tiger looked pretty sharp... :D

[ibstolidude]

the tiger looks just as tight to fight from as the HMMWV...
unfortunate..

looks really interesting...I would love to drive one.

[Kingpin]

Unfortunately you can't read Russian.
There is a couple of independent testdrive reports. Very positive.

As for interrior.... You know... it is simple but comfortable and don't forget Tiger three times cheaper than Humvee in similar configuration.

[GazB]

"The humvee i sexier looking "

I disagree, it looks ugly to me, and the Tiger looks too much like it for my tastes.

I prefer the traditional Jeep look... even the GAZ jeep... that latest version that looked very european, but they didn't have the funds for...

[ibstolidude]

Unfortunately you can't read Russian.
There is a couple of independent testdrive reports. Very positive.

As for interrior.... You know... it is simple but comfortable and don't forget Tiger three times cheaper than Humvee in similar configuration.

actually I do read/speak russian, although not as well as I used to.
The problem it appears (i have NO exerience with the Tiger) is similiar to the HMMWV...small windows, odd shaped exits, tight in length for the fron tseating compartment...doesn't mean I am right! But that is a bad combo in fighting from the HMMWV if you are not in the turret.