F2000, 5-7 and Belgian BEST program info (LW variant)

[dez000]

Yo,

I found some great pics of the FN F2000 which will most likely be replacing the FNC in the near future! I also spoke to a soldier during a visit to a Belgian base who said that they will be getting the new 5-7 pistol as soon NATO permitted the caliber for regular troops.
I also found some information of the Belgian BEST program (thx to Henk ;))





Country: Belgium
Program name: BEST (Belgium Soldier Technology)

Projects in the field of protection: improved protection against climate, improved protection agains bullets, shocks and shrapnel.

Projects in the field of leadership: digital compass, SDA (soldier digital assistent)

Projects in the field of Lethaliteit: new aiming devices (day, night, thermical) for weapons, the F2000

Projects in the field of continuation capacity: general improvement of equipment

Projects in the field of mobility: New webbing and rucksack systems

Planning of the programme: BEST will launch in 2003. The plan to work closely together with the Dutch SMP. BEST has a need of approximately 4,500 soldier systems with a priority on protection and leadership improvements.


FN F2000 photos

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/FNF2000TOP.jpg

"How the gun fires"

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/eject1.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/eject2.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/eject3.jpg

Forward ejection port
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/ejecting.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/f2000d.jpg

Removing this cap reveals the movable pieces inside the rifle.
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/ejecting2.jpg

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/ejecting3.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/ejecting4.jpg

Belgian Soldiers with the FN F2000

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/idexsd10006.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/soldier.jpg
-Belgian Paracommandos testing the f2000
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/F2000_a.jpg

Modules

-Standard handguard
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/handguard.jpg
http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-ac/f2000-a5.jpg

- Handguard with laser
http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-ac/f2000-a4.jpg
-Handguard with flashlight
http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-ac/f2000-a3.jpg

-Grenadelauncher

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/granadeL.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/GLinsert.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/leafsight.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/leafsight2.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/f2000lie.jpg

-FCS thermal(Fire Controle System)

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/F200withLas.jpg

Conception

http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-co/f2000-c5.JPG

Standard FN F2000 assembly

-1 : scope X1,6
-2 : valve allowing to visualize the moving parts.
-3 : thingie to put the bayonet on
-4 : gas switch
-5 : charging handle
-6 : Fire selector
-7 : Trigger
-8 : Lever for disassembeling the rifle for cleaning and such...
-9 : Magazine release button
-10 : M16 type magazine
-11 : Buttstock containing the mechanism

-Fire selector
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/fireselect.jpg

-Buttstock

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/sling.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/stock.jpg

-Scope

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/scope.jpg

*scope cover with built in back up 'iron' sights
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/scopecover.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/sight.jpg

Various

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/magrelease.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/muzzle.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/traditm203.jpg
http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/2gun.jpg
http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/F2000-co/f2000-c2.jpg




Technical data :

F2000™
• Caliber: 5.56 x 45 mm
• Operating principle: Gas operated, rotating bolt
• Muzzle velocity: :900 m/s (2,953 fps)
• Lenght, ready to fire:
694 mm (27.32 in)
• Barrel length: 400 mm (15.75 in)
• Weight w. empty mag:
3.6 kg (7.95 lbs)
• Magazine type:
M16 type, used on most NATO
rifles and LMG
• Magazine capacity: 30
• Sight: 1.6 x optical
• Cyclic rate of fire: 850 rpm

Grenade launcher
• Caliber: 40 mm LV
• Operating principle: Pump action, rotary locking
• Muzzle velocity: 76 m/s (249 fps)
• Lenght, ready to fire:
727 mm (28.6 in)
(rifle with launcher)
• Barrel length: 230 mm (9.05 in)
• Weight w. empty mag:
4.6 kg (10.15 lbs)
(rifle with launcher)
• Sight: Mechanical

Five-seveN photos

http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/FN-FS-ac/F-S_acc1.jpg
http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/FN-FS-ac/F-S_acc2.jpg
http://users.belgacom.net/jm.armes/FN-FS-ts/F-S_tes1.jpg
http://www.fnherstal.com/html/FsN/FSN4.jpg
http://www.fnherstal.com/html/FsN/FSN2.jpg

[Gringo]

not much a fan of FN or bullpups, but good pics non the less. woot

[MVSpartan117]

I love FN weapons, always have. I'm a big fan of the P90 Five-SeveN, and F2000

[Haiw]

no offence, but how can u be a fan of a weapons u've never shot :|

[Ratamacue]

The Fiveseven is a sweet pistol despite the fact that it has absolutely no stopping power.

[rob]

i talked to someone who has shot the five seven, and this is what they had to say. The fiveseven was a bad dream that fn chose to make a reality. but the claims of penatration made by fn where true, if not a bit conservative.

[Operation Ivy]

Looks like the XM29 to me :D

[Gordon]

Looks like the XM29 to me :D

or maybe you should say the XM29 looks like FN F2000 ... ;)

[MVSpartan117]

no offence, but how can u be a fan of a weapons u've never shot :|

How can you be a fan of the Yankees or the Braves if you've never played professional baseball? Sure, you my have played baseball, but not in the big leagues.
It's the same way with firearms. I'm a fan of the F2000, P90, and Five-SeveN, but I've never shot them. I just like them becuase I do.

Just some food for thought..............

[rob]

Looks like the XM29 to me :D

or maybe you should say the XM29 looks like FN F2000 ... ;)

i fail to see the resemblence :|

[MVSpartan117]

Yeah, neither do I

[Gordon]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/oicw4.jpg

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/FNF2000TOP.jpg

You fail to see any resemblance between those two designs?

(sorry if i've got the nomenclature confused and hence i'm talking about the wrong rifle)

[rob]

yes i do, one has a normal rifle attached to 20mm cannon witha large magazine in back while the other is a rather bulky bullpup rifle with a fairly normal grenade launcher attached and doesnt even have a proper pistol grip. they are no more similar then a aug is to a g36. the only similarity is the rather bulky scope.

well that is what my eyes tell me anyway.

[MVSpartan117]

ACK! I misread!

I was kinda just breezing through, thought we meant XM8! oops!

Ya they do look quite a bit a like, although the F2000 does look a bit better, and it's quite smaller too, isn't it?

[Gordon]

well that is what my eyes tell me anyway.

each to their own.

Take it easy.

[rob]

well that is what my eyes tell me anyway.

each to their own.

Take it easy.

i was taking it easy, my apologies if the post seemed harsh.

[dez000]

ACK! I misread!

I was kinda just breezing through, thought we meant XM8! oops!

Ya they do look quite a bit a like, although the F2000 does look a bit better, and it's quite smaller too, isn't it?

It is smaller and weighs less :) :D

[MEGR]

That gun looks uber sweet!

[Gringo]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/oicw4.jpg

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/FNF2000TOP.jpg

You fail to see any resemblance between those two designs?

(sorry if i've got the nomenclature confused and hence i'm talking about the wrong rifle)

Thye both go bang when u pull the trigger. :D
But IMO they're not the same, as one is a bullpup and the other is of a classic design (although the 20mm grenade launcher is of bullpup design)

[Haiw]

no offence, but how can u be a fan of a weapons u've never shot :|

How can you be a fan of the Yankees or the Braves if you've never played professional baseball? Sure, you my have played baseball, but not in the big leagues.
It's the same way with firearms. I'm a fan of the F2000, P90, and Five-SeveN, but I've never shot them. I just like them becuase I do.

Just some food for thought..............

well if u'r a fan of a club, u'r a fan of what the club stands for, and it's result in the league...but wud u be a fan of a club that has just been formed, not played any games, and that u haven't even seen playing at all?

[MVSpartan117]

Do we have to debate over something so stupid........ please lets stop.

it's personal opionion......

Lets end it here

thanks

[JunglistSoldier]

not much a fan of FN

Why not? They make great weapons..

M240 and M249 for example.

[Seoulstriker]

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/FNF2000TOP.jpg

whoah. splinter cell action.

http://www.splintercell.com/us/ss/PC_5.jpg

[MVSpartan117]

Isn't the f2000 in splinter cell called like the SC-20 or something? :lol:

[Ratamacue]

They call it the SC-2000 (Silent Carbine 2000?) due to copyright/trademark issues.

[Gringo]

not much a fan of FN

Why not? They make great weapons..

M240 and M249 for example.

H&K make better weapons!

[MVSpartan117]

Please lets not start a flame war!

:|

[Seoulstriker]

They call it the SC-2000 (Silent Carbine 2000?) due to copyright/trademark issues.

or the Splinter Cell-2000.

[Gringo]

I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just giving my oppinion, that's all.

[Seoulstriker]

I'm not trying to start a flame war. I'm just giving my oppinion, that's all.

I love american-made weapons. the FN Minimi, HK MP-5 SD5, HK MP-5 Navy, and the G36 are pretty sweet too.

[Saranof]

It even looks good...but then, most guns do ;)

[TheBelgian]

Hehe, the F 2000 and Five Seven are uber sweet. And the Belgian Soldier Technology program sounds like a godsend. But i dont believe for a minute that we're gonna be seeing those in service within the next ten years. Our military has the ****tiest budget ever, and years of defence spending cuts under Socialist defense ministers (damn you Flahaut!) have left us with only the shell of an effective army. Excellent soldiers using crap equipment. Lets hope that I'm wrong, and that the BEST program is indeed implemented soon!

[Hammy]

testing with the slovenian army!

EITHER THE F2000 OR THE G36!

http://slike.stamcar.com/pics/fn_f2000296.jpg

http://slike.stamcar.com/pics/g-36297.jpg

[Hawkeye]

I really hope the're makin' some progress with the BEST-program...'Cause we need it

[Prometheus]

testing with the slovenian army!

EITHER THE F2000 OR THE G36!



Interesting.

When will they make a decision?

[ChuckThunder]

http://www.civiliangunner.com/images/FNF2000TOP.jpg

whoah. splinter cell action.

http://www.splintercell.com/us/ss/PC_5.jpg

Check out his new one.

http://img2.imagevenue.com/loc293/bff_sc2000.jpg

[Hammy]

testing with the slovenian army!

EITHER THE F2000 OR THE G36!



Interesting.

When will they make a decision?

They have already completed the testing at the end of 2004, now they are sorting out the statistics gained trughout the testing period and will announce the winners in the 1st quarter of 2005 ......so this means a month or two till the announcment.

[Prometheus]

testing with the slovenian army!

EITHER THE F2000 OR THE G36!



Interesting.

When will they make a decision?

They have already completed the testing at the end of 2004, now they are sorting out the statistics gained trughout the testing period and will announce the winners in the 1st quarter of 2005 ......so this means a month or two till the announcment.


It would be nice to hear from you if the result becomes public :)

I'm pretty interested in how well suited the F2000 is for military duty.

[Hawkeye]

I'm pretty interested in how well suited the F2000 is for military duty.

Belgian SF uses the F2000

[TheBelgian]

Hey Hawkeye, where did you hear that? Do our SFG boys really have F2000s? Hah, man that'd be so sweet. i just cant find any info about it. I checked www.specialforcesgroup.be but the only thing i can find there is that they have P90's. Whats your source that that have F2000s?[/quote]

[Hawkeye]

Hey Hawkeye, where did you hear that? Do our SFG boys really have F2000s? Hah, man that'd be so sweet. i just cant find any info about it. I checked www.specialforcesgroup.be but the only thing i can find there is that they have P90's. Whats your source that that have F2000s?[/quote]

I believe it commonly known that Belgian SF has received 70-80 F2000 (most probably for free)

[-Max2-]

Hey Hawkeye, where did you hear that? Do our SFG boys really have F2000s? Hah, man that'd be so sweet. i just cant find any info about it. I checked www.specialforcesgroup.be but the only thing i can find there is that they have P90's. Whats your source that that have F2000s?

Hawkeye is right. 75 F2000s were bought in August 2004 for the SF.

Here is a small article about the F2000 purchase (in French):
http://www.tiscali.be/FR/busi/news/news.asp?id=120676

[Sloppy Joe2]

f2000 i hear is a great gun wouldnt be surprised its competing with the g36 but i always hear mixed results about the fn five seven i wish there was someone to set the record straight or better yet get to fire one myself great pics BTW :D :hug: woot

[Shadow]

How much is it?

[Hammy]

testing with the slovenian army!

EITHER THE F2000 OR THE G36!



Interesting.

When will they make a decision?

They have already completed the testing at the end of 2004, now they are sorting out the statistics gained trughout the testing period and will announce the winners in the 1st quarter of 2005 ......so this means a month or two till the announcment.


It would be nice to hear from you if the result becomes public :)

I'm pretty interested in how well suited the F2000 is for military duty.

Ill keep you informed :D

[1Cie GevGn]

Maybe I'll get to hold one before I retire... In 40 years

[Hawkeye]

Maybe I'll get to hold one before I retire... In 40 years

Belgium! Keep on dreaming ;)