Army Combat Uniform?

[magestyk7]

Hey anybody know any links on where I can buy the Army new ACU's?
I've been looking every where and had no luck. I want to get 2 pairs for a friend of mine that's in the Army for X-mas. I guess they can start wearing it and every body must have em by 2006... Thanks guys


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/acu-pic04.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/acu-pic08.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/acu-pic07.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/acu-pic10.jpg

[Dalleer]

I doubt you can find one at this time..

You'll just have to wait for a few years , at worst.

[Frens]

I doubt you can find one at this time..

You'll just have to wait for a few years , at worst.

+1

you cant find it now

[Howie Kaluha]

Dude, seriously, forget this crappy vomit-like pattern---go with Multicam p-)

[Desertpilot]

Wait until January, True-spec will have their ACU copy out then.

[magestyk7]

Dude, seriously, forget this crappy vomit-like pattern---go with Multicam

Well I could do that but my friend is in the (ARMY) not Marines,Navy or Airforce. He wont be able to use it of that other stuff, and he's not Spec Ops either.

The thing that he said was that only new recruits will get them and people going to Iraq starting Feburary. Every body else in the military gotta buy em out of their own Pockets. SUCKS! But I guess that's why they get clothing allowence.

[magestyk7]

Hey Desertpilot you said true-spec is gonna have em... You have a link to their website? thanks

[JTAR7242]

I doubt they'll only give the soldiers a year to obtain those uniforms,.

The Marine Corps took far longer than that to get the MARPAT distributed because of the logistical/supply issues involved in getting them to all the Marines. In fact, it wasn't even until February 04 that the USMC mandated that all Marines headed to Iraq had the new desert pattern. I saw a lot of pictures from R1 of Marines with no name/service tapes because they'd gotten the cammies too late to have it done.

A lot of soldier will wait till last second too though because they don't like the new pattern/want to look "seasoned". With the new recruits fresh from boot wearing them, it will becomes a point of pride to wear the old cammies and the black boots, trust me. Rather silly if you ask me, but hey. I know a lot of Marines who put off getting the new cammies, even if it meant wearing badly faded old ones.

But I don't know, has this pattern even been officially adopted? I know it was a high likelyhood but I hadn't read that it had gotten the official go-ahead. Regardless, while I think all the patches and velco as well as the pattern are a bit ugly, at least its highly functional, which is the real point. If it helps soldiers in the field who really cares what it looks like.

[Virus]

Personally i like the new ACU...but we've only seen it in this color right? Id like to see what other colors they have for it....

[Nelson]

There is only one set no desert, urban, or woodland, just one for all.

[magestyk7]

A friend of mine showed me a copy of the Army Times and it had an article about the ACU. They clearly say that if you dont get em doing deployment or Basic you have to buy em by 2006. The Army made it official also that black boots are officially out of Regulations too. As long as you are on a Combat Unit (Tanker, Infantry, Paratrooper and Spec Ops) are allowed to wear em for Class A's. Every one else gotta adopt the ACU and Desert boots.

They also mention there will be only one pattern and color, The one on the picture.

[Virus]

Oh i guess i read it wrong, the qoute was saying that it includes colors to FIT in woodland, urban/desert and so on, not that there are multiple color styles..my bad :o......and kinda ghey...but i wont knock it until i try it...

[stuntman]

Are there any current pictures or pictures in action?

[JTAR7242]

I know what the Army times says.

The Marine Corps said something much similar, and they ended up delaying the date that Marines needed to have the MARPAT by over a year, as well as the boots due to a lack of supply. Perhaps the Army will learn from the Marines, but probably not, considering this isn't the first time a DoD organization has changed uniforms.

And there's only about 200K Marines (including SMCR). There's almost five times as many Army and NG/Reserves. Why do you think they call the USMC the Few and the Proud? ;)

Not saying an extension of the time allowed is going to happen, but with that kind of numbers strain...

[Pitty Fool]

I think the new BDU's suck, it doesn't even look green at all... Just only look at the collar, that won't be comfortable in combat eh? :roll:

however, I think you need to wait a while, even the US army doesn't have it issued yet... ;)

[Digital Marine]

I think the new BDU's suck, it doesn't even look green at all... Just only look at the collar, that won't be comfortable in combat eh? :roll:

however, I think you need to wait a while, even the US army doesn't have it issued yet... ;)


Uhm.. havent you noticed.. the collar can be folded down ;)

[b.scheller]

I highly doubt these will be readily available on the market. Our Cadpad isnt available and its been a couple of years since it was first established. I highly doubt anyone will be selling their uniforms, just for some loose change. Although I'm sure you'll find some cheap replica's sometime soon...

[Desertpilot]

magestyk7, there is no reference to True-spec's ACU copy on their web site. I heard it from a highly reliable "inside" source. It will be the same pattern and camo, with minor changes to the cut of the uniform.

We'll see it in Jan-Feb time frame.

As for when the ACU will be manditory, rumor and the Army Times has it by 06, HOWEVER, DA has put out that a manditory wear date / BDU wear OUT date, has not been set yet. Perhaps 2008?[/i]

[crazyman]

the way i understand it, the army will make it mandatory by unit. for example..the 82nd is scheduled to get it sometime in april/may for deployment, so after that it'll be mandatory. other units will still be wearing their regular BDU's. the full on mandatory date for the whole army isnt for 2 or 3 years. most soldiers will end up being issued a few sets for a deployment, and then paying for replacements later on.

[Digital Marine]

im really curious on how it will blend in, in a woodland scheme :)
it looks a bit too white?

[crazyman]

know ive said this a couple of times...sorry to those of you who are sick of it, but I saw the uniform in ft lewis this summer, looked pretty darn good to me. few other guys here whove also seen it agreed. maybe its a trick of cameras, backgrounds, lights i dont know...when i saw it, it looked mostly mottled green with some brown mixed in

[Howitz]

I think just the fact that people have claimed to have seen different versions of the uniform, woodland vs. desert vs. urban, shows how effective the pattern could potentially be.
compare:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/images/acu-pic01.jpg
http://www.military.com/pics/SoldierTech_BDU1.jpg
and the pictures here: https://peosoldier.army.mil/images/PEOSoldier2004booklet.pdf

These are all just percieved variations in the hue of the pattern, in direct light, it's possible in diffused light, such as in a forest could have an ever greater effect on the color, i think this pattern is going to be much more effective than anyone seems to think. Im still waiting for some pictures of it in the field.

[Apogee]

know ive said this a couple of times...sorry to those of you who are sick of it, but I saw the uniform in ft lewis this summer, looked pretty darn good to me. few other guys here whove also seen it agreed. maybe its a trick of cameras, backgrounds, lights i dont know...when i saw it, it looked mostly mottled green with some brown mixed in

The General officers and CSMs here have the ACUs and they look pretty damn good. Granted I haven't seen them in a tactical enviroment yet, but I stilll like them alot.

[eaglecp]

A friend of mine showed me a copy of the Army Times and it had an article about the ACU. They clearly say that if you dont get em doing deployment or Basic you have to buy em by 2006. The Army made it official also that black boots are officially out of Regulations too. As long as you are on a Combat Unit (Tanker, Infantry, Paratrooper and Spec Ops) are allowed to wear em for Class A's. Every one else gotta adopt the ACU and Desert boots.

They also mention there will be only one pattern and color, The one on the picture.

Sorry Bro You have bad Info, Army Times did not say that, he must of only shown you part of the article.

Here's the poop, read carefully.
1. Starting in January all Basic Trainees and deploying Troops will be issued 4 pair of ACU's as standard issue. (It never happens exactly like that but most will be).

2. We (Army) should be able to start buying them at Clothing sales On most ARMY Posts in March/ April Time frame IF WE WISH.

3. The ARMY will issue ALL ENLISTED (E-1 to E9) soldiers 4 pair of ACU's By no later than April 2006 (again in a perfect world)

4. (Heres the part you read or were told wrong )
OFFICERS will be responsible for and have to purchase their own ACU's Out of pocket if they are not initial issue or with a deploying unit.

Officers always have to buy their own Uniforms after their initial issue.

5. Boots will be fazed out, not just dropped, Hell thats a GOD SEND, I have always hated Polishing boots, (15yrs)

Units authorized Jump Boots will be allowed to wear with Class A's Thats correct.

6. Yes there will only be one uniform, no more DCU's or BDUs, Just the ACU's.

The ones we saw at FT. Knox Appeared to blend well with Most environments. For lack of a better term, It kind of reflects the colors around it. Kind of hard to explain. Jungle Might be a Problem Though, It is a bit dark but we'll see.

Someone mentioned the collar the collar does fold down. The reason they made it that way is so it helps protect the neck against the Interceptor Body Armour.
The ACU is well thought out as is the MARPAT, but the Army added some very cool upgrades for pockets and such.
Did I mention it has a self regulating temperature control system Inside or AIR CONDITIONING!!!!!

Just Kidding :D

Civilians will not be able to Purchase ACU's Right off the bat, they will be a somewhat controlled item, At least for awhile. Soldiers caught selling ACU's on the civilian market can be punished under UCMJ. (this part is "hear-say". This has been put out by our Command.

Eventually you'll be able to get them as with almost all Military surplus.
But thats it, just so you know the truth.

SSG. Chuck Parker
US Army Reserve.

[dghost]

I think the new BDU's suck, it doesn't even look green at all... Just only look at the collar, that won't be comfortable in combat eh? :roll:

however, I think you need to wait a while, even the US army doesn't have it issued yet... ;)

i guarantee that it is more comfortable than having an Interceptor vest rubbing against your neck.

[Pitty Fool]

I think the new BDU's suck, it doesn't even look green at all... Just only look at the collar, that won't be comfortable in combat eh? :roll:

however, I think you need to wait a while, even the US army doesn't have it issued yet... ;)


Uhm.. havent you noticed.. the collar can be folded down ;)

ok :P didn't notice at first sight.... :roll:

[ZaakM433]

I wasnt a fan of MARPAT either until i saw it in person. Army officer walks down sidewalk near building, sticks out, walks past bush sort of blends in with color and pattern kind of broken up. Marine walks down sidewalk, doesnt stick out as much, walks past bush and blends in much better and the pattern is a bit more broken up...

If anyone can decipher what i just said you get a cookie (+S&H)

[Digital Marine]

know ive said this a couple of times...sorry to those of you who are sick of it, but I saw the uniform in ft lewis this summer, looked pretty darn good to me. few other guys here whove also seen it agreed. maybe its a trick of cameras, backgrounds, lights i dont know...when i saw it, it looked mostly mottled green with some brown mixed in

i really hope it will be a good pattern :)
although ive only seen this blue/white pattern, is there a woodland pattern too?

[Nelson]

You people have to be dumb if read earlier this is the only pattern it just looks different in different light.

[Digital Marine]

You people have to be dumb if read earlier this is the only pattern it just looks different in different light.

lol im sorry :oops: im too lazy to read all that crap p-)

[budgie]

Here are some collages I made a while back for gr.net as we were having the same debate. If anyone can host them I have more samples.

http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=20217&st=15

Allowing for lighting I think they look pretty smart.

[Zeknix]

Over at a forum I use to frequent (Its now down), some guy was talking about how his faded BDU's worked a lot better than a new pair of BDU's. His experience came mainly from being in the woods with them. The lighter colors blend in better with the surroundings. Maybe thats because it can reflect some of the surrounding color.

Anyways, I think the army selected the new ACU because they know we are going to be doing a lot of our future fighting in the middle east. Just think of the enviroment in Iraq and Afgan. Desert to green plains, not much in the way of woods or jungles.

[budgie]

Also, taking Cryecam as an example (and even the old woodland BDUs) the main colour is brown. In the woods, at gorund level it's mostl;y brown and some mottled shades of olive, so an earthier camo is still practical in the bush as well.

I also think the ACU will fit well in Urban environmenst - especially rubble and such as there are shades of grey and tan in there as well. Apart from Crye this might be the best all-terrain camo I've seen.

[NcDeuce]

Not only will airsofters ooh and ahh, no more shining boots. Brilliant.

[JTAR7242]

Woodland MARPAT is primarily brown as well, it's just that the green is the more visible color, making it stand out. The uniform camoflauges itself, heh.

[talib_killa34]

I'll just be sad to see both three-color and WOODLAND go the way of the dinosaur.. :( Those were cool ass while they lasted.

This ACU is good, NOT GREAT, but good. We shall see. Lots of great improvements with that, not the greatet color scheme but the army knows it stuff right? ;)

[budgie]

Lots of new images here:
http://peosoldier.army.mil/images/PEOSoldier2004booklet.pdf.
I still think there were several prototype uniforms in different shades. the predominant one here seems to be a dusty Khaki.