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Cardinal
11-29-2004, 06:46 AM
Got bored yesterday and snapped off some pics of my Glock 17. Not really the holy grail of cool, decked out weaponry, but nonetheless an excellent, superb handgun in which I have complete trust.

Enjoy.

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/1.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/2.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/3.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/4.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/5.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/6.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/7.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/8.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/9.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/10.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/11.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/12.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/13.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/14.jpg

Howie Kaluha
11-29-2004, 06:54 AM
Always a great handgun...nice shots woot

tenda
11-29-2004, 06:58 AM
...one of the best handgun of the world...!!!!!!! :P

EffJi
11-29-2004, 06:58 AM
How does the gun laws in Belgium work? How strikt are they?

It might not look very pretty, but it get's the job done. Or so I've heard.
Any gun that the Swedish military uses, is good in my book.

scrybe
11-29-2004, 07:01 AM
I think they look pretty damn good, actually. Form, function, and reliability; you can't go wrong.

American Patriot
11-29-2004, 07:20 AM
Nice sidearm.

Gun control means using two hands.

Lone
11-29-2004, 07:26 AM
As i recall you work for the justice department, right?

AlexNenadic
11-29-2004, 07:27 AM
It might not look very pretty-

What the hell are you talking about, its beautiful. :D

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 07:28 AM
As i recall you work for the justice department, right?

Yep.

Beardog
11-29-2004, 08:30 AM
http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/2.jpg

It is brand new; oval mag. release and the code AC on the tritium sights.
AC > year 03.

My duty pistol is also a Glock 17 with minor adjustments;

- Longer slide release
- Oval mag. release
- 28 newton firing spring
- Tritium Glock sights

We use the speer 124 grain +p gold dots. I don't like the men pep.

I just scratched the grip in a street fight :fork:

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 08:34 AM
It is brand new indeed. I recently got a Glock tactical light to mount on the rail, I'll try to take a few pics of that too.

EffJi
11-29-2004, 08:35 AM
It might not look very pretty-

What the hell are you talking about, its beautiful. :D

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg59-e.htm
THIS is beautiful (the top one).
Besides, Cardinal himself said that he didn't think the gun was very pretty. What it lacks in beauty, it gives back in efficency.

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 09:20 AM
i must say that it looks great with the taclight attached to it ;)

One_A
11-29-2004, 09:50 AM
Any one with experience on the Glock 37?

Virus
11-29-2004, 10:42 AM
my bro just got a para-ordnance in .40sw....ooomg it looks like *** :O...but so do glocks :D imho atleast

Glock
11-29-2004, 10:52 AM
:D Nice Pics

FozzieBear
11-29-2004, 11:02 AM
i love the glock :P i dont think its ugly at all, anyway nice camera work bro :) thanks for the pics

Nedflanders
11-29-2004, 11:15 AM
I have a Glock 17 as my sidearm. It is a brill and reliable weapon. We have the New York trigger and illuminated sights. The long arms I use are H+K MP5, H+K 33 5.56mm and the H+K G3 7.62 mm. Rumour is that we are getting the new G36 soon to replace our 33s.

We have some of the best weaponry in the world at our disposal for policing duties.

NF.

Deicide
11-29-2004, 12:26 PM
Awesome pics ! woot

However a rear view of the glock 17 is missing (in particular with sights aligned would be welcome)

If all the guys here could do the same thing with their weapons, this forum will be fantastic :|

Tnx again Cardinal !

Nedflanders
11-29-2004, 12:54 PM
Just taken.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/gorestorage4/P1010002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/gorestorage4/Alteredglock.jpg

Deicide
11-29-2004, 01:00 PM
Nice and quick, but i prefer hi-res pics, as those of Cardinal ... if possible.

Azide
11-29-2004, 01:04 PM
It might not look very pretty-

What the hell are you talking about, its beautiful. :D

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg59-e.htm
THIS is beautiful (the top one).

or a Kimber mod woot

American Patriot
11-29-2004, 01:13 PM
I would take a pic of my G19 but it's just a dirty old generation two.

Beardog
11-29-2004, 02:26 PM
The markings on your barrel EOR; your glock was made in january 2003.
The E stands for january, the O for 0 and R for three.

I will try and post some pics of my Glock.

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 03:24 PM
http://users.pandora.be/tron/misc/glock/15.jpg

Not very sharp, i'm sorry. I haven't got the glock with me at the moment, it's in the vault at work.

Digital Marine
11-29-2004, 03:28 PM
wouldnt this gun melt in Iraq or something.. it looks like plastic... :roll: :roll:


please correct me if im wrong.. im here to learn p-)

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 03:33 PM
The Glock has a polymer frame and a steel slide. I wouldn't know if the polymer melts in extreme heat (I highly doubt it), but we seldom pass 30 degrees Celsius in Brussels ;-)

American Patriot
11-29-2004, 03:35 PM
The frame is made from a plastic called nylon 6.. I have no clue what that means other than it's very strong and has a high melting point.

Geezah
11-29-2004, 03:52 PM
I have a Glock 17 as my sidearm. It is a brill and reliable weapon. We have the New York trigger

What is a New York trigger, this is a new one on me, never heard that term before?

P.S.Welcome ;)

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 03:54 PM
Lighter trigger pull if I'm not mistaken.

American Patriot
11-29-2004, 03:55 PM
I have a Glock 17 as my sidearm. It is a brill and reliable weapon. We have the New York trigger

What is a New York trigger, this is a new one on me, never heard that term before?

New York trigger is an 8 pound disconnector and spring. The heavier trigger pull is supposed to make it harder for a negligent discharge to occur.. yeah its dumb.

Geezah
11-29-2004, 03:57 PM
I have a Glock 17 as my sidearm. It is a brill and reliable weapon. We have the New York trigger

What is a New York trigger, this is a new one on me, never heard that term before?

New York trigger is an 8 pound disconnector and sprint

Is this something that's well known amoungst Glock owners, because I was clueless as to exactly what it meant but I had an idea?

Cardinal
11-29-2004, 03:58 PM
Ow, heavier trigger pull. I learn every day ;)

Sloppy Joe2
11-29-2004, 04:07 PM
i dont know i am a bigger .45 fan :lol:

Geezah
11-29-2004, 04:14 PM
I have a Glock 17 as my sidearm. It is a brill and reliable weapon. We have the New York trigger

What is a New York trigger, this is a new one on me, never heard that term before?

New York trigger is an 8 pound disconnector and spring. The heavier trigger pull is supposed to make it harder for a negligent discharge to occur.. yeah its dumb.

Don't Glocks have internal safeties similar to Sigs 4 internal safeties?

American Patriot
11-29-2004, 04:28 PM
Negligent discharges occur when your finger is on the trigger and you discharge the gun unknowingly. Twelve pound triggers are supposed to make up for better training and stop NDs especially after you chase a suspect down 4 blocks and are holding him at gunpoint not knowing if he is armed, etc.

I think everyone has seen the video of the woman cop who shoots and barely misses the handcuffed perp lying down in the street :roll:

Digital Marine
11-29-2004, 04:31 PM
The Glock has a polymer frame and a steel slide. I wouldn't know if the polymer melts in extreme heat (I highly doubt it), but we seldom pass 30 degrees Celsius in Brussels ;-)

ahh ok it looked like plastic or something :oops: :oops:

Nedflanders
11-29-2004, 04:36 PM
Guys,

My mate has got one without the NY trigger. I wouldn't touch the thing. I like a bit of safety and idiot proofness. I was very dubious about getting a Glock as it has no safety. Before you start posting I am aware of its integral safeties. It has no applied safety !! I like guns like the Browning 9mm an CZ 75s etc. I pefer 9mm because I WILL put more rounds down than a .45 and therefore it is unlikely you will live.

I love the Glock I have NEVER had a stoppage........ EVER.

Easy to clean, easy to maintain and almost Police/Soldier proof.

Very cheap compared to its rivals also...........

The best all rounder ever made.

NF

Deep6
11-29-2004, 04:39 PM
Negligent discharges occur when your finger is on the trigger and you discharge the gun unknowingly. Twelve pound triggers are supposed to make up for better training and stop NDs especially after you chase a suspect down 4 blocks and are holding him at gunpoint not knowing if he is armed, etc.

I think everyone has seen the video of the woman cop who shoots and barely misses the handcuffed perp lying down in the street :roll:

Dang, I am probably the only one who hasn't watched that one yet...have a link to it? :oops:

Thx!

Geezah
11-29-2004, 05:02 PM
Guys,

My mate has got one without the NY trigger. I wouldn't touch the thing. I like a bit of safety and idiot proofness. I was very dubious about getting a Glock as it has no safety. Before you start posting I am aware of its integral safeties. It has no applied safety !! I like guns like the Browning 9mm an CZ 75s etc. I pefer 9mm because I WILL put more rounds down than a .45 and therefore it is unlikely you will live.

I love the Glock I have NEVER had a stoppage........ EVER.

Easy to clean, easy to maintain and almost Police/Soldier proof.

Very cheap compared to its rivals also...........

The best all rounder ever made.

NF

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Remains in condition of rest w/o placing the mainspring or firing pin spring under tension
Slide must be locked back and magazine removed to disassemble
Safely disassembles without having to pull the trigger

American Patriot
11-29-2004, 05:06 PM
I think a Glock with 3.5# is pretty safe but then I'm not a cop :lol:

Nedflanders
11-29-2004, 05:17 PM
We have to carry the weapon our Force gives us.

I am happy with the Glock now that I have caried it for a year or so. Before we ha it we had to carry the Ruger .357 Magnum Revolver. Good stopping power but limited firepower.

I carry 18 rounds in my Glock with several spare mags.

You can only carry 6 in the Ruger !!!!!

innocent_bystander
11-29-2004, 09:51 PM
Don't make me open my safe and start snapping pics.

I currently only have five Glocks. :( Getting married really cuts into your toy funds.

19
17
34
27
17 frame with Advantage Arms .22LR slide

Here are three of them with some gear.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/198061.jpg

rindeee
11-29-2004, 10:34 PM
My wife and I both carry Glocks. I carry a 23 (.40cal medium frame) and she a 26 (9mm compact with a pinky extension on the magazine so I can shoot it). I absolutely love both of them. I also picked up a great safe to keep them in. It will open either via an 8 digit key-code or a fingerprint (it will store something like 10 prints). The fingerprint scanner is very good (no false acepts thus far and only a few false rejects). Should someone make the mistake of trying to burglarize me while I slumber, I simply "print" "night stand" and out come both guns in under 5 seconds. The safe is pleanty big (about 1.2 cubic feet) for other stuff as well. If you're in the US, you can pick one up on SamsClub.com for $189.

http://www.samsclub.com/eclub/main_shopping.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&n=0&mt=a&coe=0&oidPath=0:-23541:-29062:-29087:-29184:843920

ER

Nick063
11-29-2004, 10:37 PM
nice pistol :)

Sierra
11-29-2004, 10:38 PM
Thats awesone! Kool pics! :)

Delta Niner
11-29-2004, 11:34 PM
wouldnt this gun melt in Iraq or something.. it looks like plastic... :roll: :roll:


please correct me if im wrong.. im here to learn p-)

Don't worry, it won't melt even if you live it rotting under the Iraqi sun. Just don't let your pitbull chew on the polymer part of the gun. That could ruin it. :)

Levan
11-30-2004, 03:23 AM
Love polymer pistools, ver userfriendly, light and acurate. Favorite Glocks are G-19, G-17L, G-22 and G-30.
But I dont like that glocks do not have manul safety, thats why I choose Steyr M9. Incredible pistol.
Low bore axis, trapezoid sights are good for quick aim but it is hard to shoot in long range. it requires time to learn exact aim.
But when you learn it you will feel like you have a sniper rifle in your holster.
Very reliable, few hundreds fired so far, no single malfunction.
requires more maintenace than Glock (cleaning, lubricating) but for me it does not metter. Ultra hard frame is just for me along with full metal mags. From this point of view Steyr is much better than any Glock.

next pistol I will buy is H&K USP series.

innocent_bystander
11-30-2004, 08:21 AM
The Steyr M9 is one problem plagued pistol. Unlike a Glock the striker on an M9 is held in the retracted mode. When M9 slides start to get loose you can fire the pistol just by wiggling the slide back and forth. There also isn't a striker/firing pin safety like on the Glock. So they aren't considered drop safe. The M9 loaded chamber indicated has also been a nightmare causing numerous malfunctions.

Not one single law enforcement agency in the US adopted the Steyr M9. I see M9 pistols are now on closeout with several wholesalers for $275. With steyr losing it's factory to BMW and having no US importer I think Steyr's future is limited. :roll:

Levan
11-30-2004, 09:27 AM
The Steyr M9 is one problem plagued pistol. Unlike a Glock the striker on an M9 is held in the retracted mode. When M9 slides start to get loose you can fire the pistol just by wiggling the slide back and forth. There also isn't a striker/firing pin safety like on the Glock. So they aren't considered drop safe. The M9 loaded chamber indicated has also been a nightmare causing numerous malfunctions.

Not one single law enforcement agency in the US adopted the Steyr M9. I see M9 pistols are now on closeout with several wholesalers for $275. With steyr losing it's factory to BMW and having no US importer I think Steyr's future is limited. :roll:

in your comments you are sometimes right sometimes wrong.
First of all M9 actually do not needs firing pin safety. I also was amazed when mentioned this detail. But then I understood why they did this. Steyr frame is much harder then Glocks one, so it is impossible to imagine how you should wreck the gun to release firing pin. I personally tested my M9, dropping it on some hard surface, paunch it and hit it from various sides, I guarantee Styr is drop safe as Glock or any other high quality pistol. Also I hered numerous stories about people who shot themselves with Glock and no single story about accidental shots made from M series.
I didn’t hear about any malfunctions related to loaded chamber indicator.
Early Steyr`s got some problems with extractor and Trigger mechanism but last series are perfect.
Steyr has no good marketing division and this particular gun arrived a little bit late but any way this gun is magnificent.
Also it has a supported camber. It was designed for powerful caliber 40 sw and then was produced its 9mm version. Difference in weight is only 20 grams. It means that this 9mm pistol can fire any +P+ or reloaded ammo.
M series cost very cheap now because it is out of production but M-A1 series already began hitting market.
reason why M9 is not addopted, it came too late. There are Glocks and USP`s everywhere. Plus poor marketing and advertisement, poor maintenance. That’s why Steyr did not gain what he deserved.

innocent_bystander
11-30-2004, 10:20 AM
Why would one be less likely to have an unintentional dischargewith an M9 over a Glock? :roll:

I've seen M9 pistols have accidental dischargeswhen the slides were rocked back and forth. This was shown in testing before the adoption by law enforcement. And yes, they should have been designed with a striker block to prevent this.

All Glock 9mm pistols are rated for +P+.

Sounds like you've been listening to salesmen.

You mentioned the USP. Don't even get me started on all the problems with them. Tucson PD was the largest LE user of USP pistols in the US. They had tons of problems with them and are phasing them out as their budget allows. The variant 1 USP is another problem plagued pistol.

There is a reason glock has almost 70% of the US LE market. Their pistols work!

Levan
11-30-2004, 04:06 PM
I wiil not argue with you but you are incorrect in some places. Glock is great pistol but remember when Glock was introduced for the first time it also got some bugs.
All guns got bugs but every one will agree that huge arms makers do not produce **** ! all modern handguns are reliable, accurate and lethal.
question is which one is more suitable for particular user abd for environment where gun is been testing.
Steyr, USP and Glock are very similar guns.

Graeme
11-30-2004, 05:07 PM
There are a fair few people who despise glocks. Not for the lack of a proper safety, not because they are plastic or anything, but some of the heavier calibred pistols (apparently) would go bang. The problem being was there wasn't enough material/thickness in the breach/chamber area. Too much pressure over a small amount of material=crack. Will see if i can dig up the websites :)

Graeme
11-30-2004, 05:11 PM
http://www.f-r-i.com/glock/FAQ/FAQ-kb.htm#1
http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb.html

:)

innocent_bystander
11-30-2004, 05:35 PM
Dean Spear is a frickin' idiot.

You know what I've seen more "KBs" in than any other pistol......the 1911.

This from years of shooting IPSC and IDPA.

rawkitheart
11-30-2004, 07:19 PM
here's a photography tip:

your photos DoF (depth of field) is wayyyy too short. you can solve this by closing your Fstop (making a smaller hole thereby increasing your DoF) and zooming in on the subject instead of physically moving the camera closer to it.

admar2
11-30-2004, 07:57 PM
nice Glock, here are mine. I'm partial to the 9mm flavor. 17, 19, and 26

:D

http://amarino01.homestead.com/glock191.jpg

http://amarino01.homestead.com/files/glocks.jpg