George Soros, a right royal pain in the............

[Geezah]

Ukraine undecided

chief adviser to the Ukrainian prime minister sees uncanny parallels between his boss's campaign for president and last week's U.S. presidential election.
The Nov. 21 runoff between Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and Viktor Yushchenko, a former prime minister, is too close to call. Each candidate received about 39 percent in the first round of voting on Oct. 31. Ukrainians appear divided between Mr. Yanukovych's rural supporters and Mr. Yushchenko's urban ones.

Also, as in the American election, billionaire George Soros, who poured millions of dollars into efforts to defeat President Bush, is also spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych, said Eduard Prutnik, the prime minister's adviser, on a visit to The Washington Times yesterday.
"It's very much alike. We hope the outcome will also be the same," he said, predicting a victory for Mr. Yanukovych by about five percentage points.
Iraq is also an issue, with Mr. Yanukovych pledging to keep Ukraine's 1,600 troops within the U.S.-led coalition and Mr. Yushchenko promising to withdraw them within weeks if he is elected.
One of Mr. Prutnik's goals on his visit to Washington this week is to try to explain why Mr. Yanukovych would be a better U.S. ally than his opponent, who is supported privately by some State Department officials and publicly by many Ukrainians in the United States.
"Unfortunately, people in this town want to speak in terms of black and white, making one 100 percent positive and the other 100 percent negative," Mr. Prutnik said.
Critics suspect Mr. Yanukovych of harboring authoritarian tendencies like the current president, Leonid Kuchma, who is supporting the prime minister. They also claim Mr. Yanukovych is too close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and would bring Ukraine under Russian influence.
Mr. Prutnik dismisses the criticism, saying the prime minister is independent of both Mr. Kuchma and Mr. Putin.
"He's going to defend the interests of Ukraine based on what makes good business sense," Mr. Prutnik said, explaining that exports to Russia are about equal to those to the United States and European Union combined.
He noted that Mr. Yanukovych, prime minister since 2002, has instituted a flat tax rate of 13 percent, down from an average of 40 percent under Mr. Yushchenko, who served in 2000 through April 2001.
Inflation also has fallen to 8 percent from 25 percent under Mr. Yushchenko, Mr. Prutnik said.
He pointed out one additional similarity to the U.S. election. While Mr. Bush's extreme critics compared him to Adolf Hitler, Mr. Yanukovych's opponents have compared him to Josef Stalin.
American culture also has inspired some campaign antics by the prime minister's opponents, who doctored some of his campaign literature by replacing his photograph with the big, green cartoon character Shrek.

Bandar decries letter
Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar denounced a letter from Saudi scholars that urged Iraqis to support attacks against U.S. troops and the new Iraqi government.
Prince Bandar said the letter, posted on the Internet on Saturday by 26 Saudi scholars, has no official support from either the Saudi government or the Council of Senior Ulema, prominent religious scholars.
Both "have repeatedly condemned terrorism in Iraq and throughout the world," Prince Bandar said.
"The Saudi people pray for the end of bloodshed in Iraq and the restoration of peace, security and stability in Iraq for the benefit of the Iraqi people and the region," he said.
The letter said resistance to U.S. and Iraqi government forces is a "legitimate right."


Link (http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20041108-102122-9978r.htm)

Why won't George die already :|

[Nordic Fire]

Why won't George die already :|
Why? He's one of the good guys, isn't he?

[Geezah]

Why won't George die already :|
Why? He's one of the good guys, isn't he?

Go on the BBC News webpage and do a search for George Soros ;)

[Bluezoo]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|

[Geezah]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|

He also helped the UK market crash in the early 90s :(

[Sir Zach of R.]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|

Wow. I didn't know that. Thanks for that little piece of info, if you can provide some further info on this, I'd like to see it. I'm writing an essay for my literary class about political elites and their influence around the world.

[Geezah]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|

Wow. I didn't know that. Thanks for that little piece of info, if you can provide some further info on this, I'd like to see it. I'm writing an essay for my literary class about political elites and their influence around the world.

Check the link (http://newssearch.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?scope=newsukfs&tab=news&q=George+Soros) ;)

[Nordic Fire]

Go on the BBC News webpage and do a search for George Soros ;)
"George Soros and the UNDP contribute $2m to Georgia's drive against corruption"

"Staff are expelled in a raid on the Moscow offices of financier George Soros's Open Society Institute."

"Soros calls for 'regime change' in US"

Ok, so he was convicted of some insider trading, but I like his politics and the fact that he's willing to put his millions against the millions of Bush and Blair.

[kineret]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|


according to PM Mahatir, Jews are also to blame for the Asian crisis, as they are money-hungry and evil ape monkeys. In his own words of course.

[Werewolf01]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|

I would like to see him banned form Earth, but.....

[Bluezoo]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|


according to PM Mahatir, Jews are also to blame for the Asian crisis, as they are money-hungry and evil ape monkeys. In his own words of course.

I like PM Mahatir, but it does not go beyound the point of adherence to everything he says. I have nothing against the jews nor its nation and I deeply respect their beleifs. PM Mahatir is sometimes passionate, and perhaps, he was misquoted or misinterpreted by the press. Cheers :D

[BigBaribal]

In the Swiss Hebdo magazine (hebdo.ch), there's a very interesting article describing how Soros and some US "agencies" are trying with a lot of dollars to annoy Russia in Ukrain, with the complicity of the Polish!

A funny thing, some Ukrainians are calling for that the opposition leader "Bushenko"!

In fact, I'm sure that if he succeeds, Ukrain will get immediately the opportunity to send soldiers as targets in Irak!

And as usual, our poor European leaders don't notice what's happening. They simply play the game of the USA, instead of finding agreements with Russia. Of course, the USA won't find funny a Europe, with its economy and its amount of people, working together with the big Russia, full of petrol and ressources.

[Geezah]

Go on the BBC News webpage and do a search for George Soros ;)
"George Soros and the UNDP contribute $2m to Georgia's drive against corruption"

"Staff are expelled in a raid on the Moscow offices of financier George Soros's Open Society Institute."

"Soros calls for 'regime change' in US"

Ok, so he was convicted of some insider trading, but I like his politics and the fact that he's willing to put his millions against the millions of Bush and Blair.

Seeing as we're playing the lets quote game, here's a few,


Billionaire George Soros says US policy has been "hijacked by extremists" and a change is needed in next year's elections.



A French court fines the billionaire financier 2.2m euros, after he is found guilty of profiting from inside knowledge of a 1988 takeover.



The billionaire financer George Soros says he is sharply cutting his charitable donations to Russia, and will concentrate instead on the US.



The billionaire financier hits back after being called 'a monster' - and dodges further protests by cancelling a trip to Thailand.



George Soros, the international financier, will always be remembered for his successful speculation against the pound and the rouble. But now he wants to be known as a political thinker and philanthropist.



Speaking in Washington promoting his latest book, financier George Soros has called for the removal of Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.



The international financier, George Soros, has called for the removal of the Malaysian prime minister, Mahathir Mohammad.



The leader of the parliamentary opposition in Thailand, Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, has criticised the Prime Minister, Chuan Leekpai, for shaking hands during his recent visit to the United States with the international financier George Soros.



A foundation set up by the US billionaire, George Soros, has reacted angrily to the tax fraud convictions of two of its staff in Croatia.

[Bluezoo]

Seeing as we're playing the lets quote game, here's a few,.........


The billionaire financier hits back after being called 'a monster' - and dodges further protests by cancelling a trip to Thailand.



George Soros, the international financier, will always be remembered for his successful speculation against the pound and the rouble. But now he wants to be known as a political thinker and philanthropist.



Speaking in Washington promoting his latest book, financier George Soros has called for the removal of Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.



The international financier, George Soros, has called for the removal of the Malaysian prime minister, Mahathir Mohammad.


Philanthropist and political thinker? rofl He fails to see how many lives he ruined and countless people still strugling today because of his hedge fund currency exploits.

Outser of PM Mahatir? PM Mahatir will be remembered for making Malaysia what it is right now--for uplifting the lives of its people and promoting the interest of the Asean nations, while Soros will be remembered for his greed and shrewd practices. Thinker? philanthropist?rofl

[obd]

George Sorros has done some things that are VERY VERY wrong no doubt.

But every time I stat to hate the man I think back on all his millions sent to humanitarian relief.........His money has literally saved millions around the world...........

So I guess he is at best a mixed bag of corruption but also compassion..............

He also is political and is not afraid to use his money to achieve his ends.

[plodey]

Outser of PM Mahatir? PM Mahatir will be remembered for making Malaysia what it is right now--for uplifting the lives of its people and promoting the interest of the Asean nations\

Dr Mahathir will be remembered as a recalcitrant! p-)

[Bluezoo]

Outser of PM Mahatir? PM Mahatir will be remembered for making Malaysia what it is right now--for uplifting the lives of its people and promoting the interest of the Asean nations\

Dr Mahathir will be remembered as a recalcitrant! p-)

You are right if you refer to Ex-PM Mahatir cautioning Australia from pursuing any unilateral actions in Asia because it would be deemed an act of war if the latter made good of its plans. For this, he had every reason to be very uncooperative because of the consequences. As I have said before in some of my posts, no Asean nation would allow any foreign troops in their soil without their consent. Please go through the thread on Asean proding Australia and NZ to sign a non -aggression pact. ;)

On another matter, I don’t think Dr. Mahatir was also recalcitrant when he refused to give in to Australia’s pressures when he was our PM. I am sure you would agree that he always had valid reasons for rejecting your government’s demands especially when the interests of Malaysia would suffer in exchange. You have to understand that Malaysia is no push over and like your country, we are no longer a colony and very much independent. If in the process of asserting herself and her interests, Malaysia does not give in to foreign demands, it does not mean that we do not want to cooperate or are against the west. PM Mahatir has built Malaysia at a pace where her growth would be assured and sustainable. The west is economically stable and if a treaty is being forced upon us which would put Malaysia in a disadvantage, it was only natural for our PM Mahatir to reject these to protect Malaysia's interests and goals. Your PM would have done the same if it involved your country’s interests. ;)

Anyway, I hope this would not change the good relations that we have with a number of my Australian neighbors & mates! Cheers! :D

[Nordic Fire]

Billionaire George Soros says US policy has been "hijacked by extremists" and a change is needed in next year's elections.

And? I fully agree with that sentiment. Too bad the change didn't happen.


A French court fines the billionaire financier 2.2m euros, after he is found guilty of profiting from inside knowledge of a 1988 takeover.

Ok. He got punished and his debt to the society has been paid. Right?


The billionaire financer George Soros says he is sharply cutting his charitable donations to Russia, and will concentrate instead on the US.

If the goal is political influence against the right-wing agenda, that's a good target. Or did you actually think that his "charitable donations" aren't politically motivated? All charity is politically or religiously motivated. There really are no selfless motives.


The billionaire financier hits back after being called 'a monster' - and dodges further protests by cancelling a trip to Thailand.

Ok. He's just got to be a really bad person if he's being called a monster and dodges protests. Oh wait! How's the reception of Bush in the Europe these days and how does he handle the protests...


George Soros, the international financier, will always be remembered for his successful speculation against the pound and the rouble. But now he wants to be known as a political thinker and philanthropist.

Speculation's quite legal.


Speaking in Washington promoting his latest book, financier George Soros has called for the removal of Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.

And? He's not supposed to be political? I'd sure as hell be if I had his resources.

[Geezah]

Billionaire George Soros says US policy has been "hijacked by extremists" and a change is needed in next year's elections.

And? I fully agree with that sentiment. Too bad the change didn't happen.

He wanted change because it falls in line with what he believes and wants, it has nothing to do with what's best for America or what American's want :cantbeli:



A French court fines the billionaire financier 2.2m euros, after he is found guilty of profiting from inside knowledge of a 1988 takeover.

Ok. He got punished and his debt to the society has been paid. Right?

You mean he got caught this time, he has a habit of helpimng markets crash, so who knows how much more insider trading went onthat we don't know about?



The billionaire financer George Soros says he is sharply cutting his charitable donations to Russia, and will concentrate instead on the US.

If the goal is political influence against the right-wing agenda, that's a good target. Or did you actually think that his "charitable donations" aren't politically motivated? All charity is politically or religiously motivated. There really are no selfless motives.

I don't need to add anything to your comment, it just proves he doesn't care about anyone else but Jack!



The billionaire financier hits back after being called 'a monster' - and dodges further protests by cancelling a trip to Thailand.

Ok. He's just got to be a really bad person if he's being called a monster and dodges protests. Oh wait! How's the reception of Bush in the Europe these days and how does he handle the protests...

Why are you comparing George to Bush? It it that hard to stay focused :cantbeli:



George Soros, the international financier, will always be remembered for his successful speculation against the pound and the rouble. But now he wants to be known as a political thinker and philanthropist.

Speculation's quite legal.

Not in my eyes, he'll alwasy be remembered who broke the British market in the early 90s and wants to disarm Americans!




Speaking in Washington promoting his latest book, financier George Soros has called for the removal of Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.

And? He's not supposed to be political? I'd sure as hell be if I had his resources.

He's like a spoilt brat he doesn't get his way so he calls for people to be removed form positions of power, I'm surprised he hasn't go the UN to invade yet!

[Nordic Fire]

I don't need to ass anything to your comment, it just proves he doesn't care about anyone else but Jack!
Indeed. I am a cynic and I have absolutely no problems with that. Whatever you do (mother's love, dying for your country, ...) you do it because you believe it's right and THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD. That's why there are no selfless reasons for doing anything.


Why are you comparing George to Bush? It it that hard to stay focused :cantbeli:
Bush comes to Europe and gets called a warmongerer/monster and requires that the demonstrations are confined to so called "free speech" zones far away from his route. Didn't you watch the news of his latest visit to the UK? Or didn't your local news corporation report the unrest? BBC did.

[Bluezoo]

I thought the topic here is Mr. Soros. How did it wind up to Bush? :(

[Geezah]

I don't need to ass anything to your comment, it just proves he doesn't care about anyone else but Jack!
Indeed. I am a cynic and I have absolutely no problems with that. Whatever you do (mother's love, dying for your country, ...) you do it because you believe it's right and THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD. That's why there are no selfless reasons for doing anything.


Why are you comparing George to Bush? It it that hard to stay focused :cantbeli:
Bush comes to Europe and gets called a warmongerer/monster and requires that the demonstrations are confined to so called "free speech" zones far away from his route. Didn't you watch the news of his latest visit to the UK? Or didn't your local news corporation report the unrest? BBC did.

Like I said, is it that hard to stay on subject, we talking about Soros, not President Bush or any other world leaders :cantbeli:

[Bluezoo]

I respect what others feel about Soros, but as far as Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, UK and France is concerned, he brings nothing but trouble.

On the matter of punishment, he might have served his sentence in France, but not in other countries. He was well advised not to land in Thailand because if he did, he might be in jail now. p-)

[Nordic Fire]

Like I said, is it that hard to stay on subject, we talking about Soros, not President Bush or any other world leaders :cantbeli:
:cantbeli: you don't see how Bush's standing and evasion/suppression of dissent is relevant to this discussion. Nice way to dodge the issue - I guess it heinous only when Soros dodges protests but it's OK when Bush does it.

[Geezah]

Like I said, is it that hard to stay on subject, we talking about Soros, not President Bush or any other world leaders :cantbeli:
:cantbeli: you don't see how Bush's standing and evasion/suppression of dissent is relevant to this discussion. Nice way to dodge the issue - I guess it heinous only when Soros dodges protests but it's OK when Bush does it.

I didn't dodge anything, this thread is about Soros!

[Milkman]

I thought the topic here is Mr. Soros. How did it wind up to Bush? :(

Because Nordic Fire likes pissing Geezah off, and he is starting to bother me too. The topic is over, its now all about Bush, enjoy...

[Geezah]

I thought the topic here is Mr. Soros. How did it wind up to Bush? :(

Because Nordic Fire likes pissing Geezah off, and he is starting to bother me too. The topic is over, its now all about Bush, enjoy...

He's not really p!ssing me off, just confirming that most Libs have a hard time of staying on subject and try to argue using Red Herrings ;)

[Ratman]

According to ex-PM Mahatir, Soros is a shrewd businessman who made use of his hedge fund to exploit Asian currencies. He is partly responsible for the the Asian currency crisis in the eary 90's which led to numerous job loss and near economic/market collapse in Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines. Evertime he sticks his big nose in any foreign market or event, trouble usually follows. I guess he will do anything to earn a fast buck at the expense of others. I'm glad he is banned in Malaysia. Just my opinion. :|


according to PM Mahatir, Jews are also to blame for the Asian crisis, as they are money-hungry and evil ape monkeys. In his own words of course.

It's called pandering to constituents: he made these statements about the Jews to a Congress of Muslim World "leaders".

I like PM Mahatir, but it does not go beyound the point of adherence to everything he says. I have nothing against the jews nor its nation and I deeply respect their beleifs. PM Mahatir is sometimes passionate, and perhaps, he was misquoted or misinterpreted by the press. Cheers :D