COMs

[Herrmannek]

I'm curious what kind of team/squad level coms are used.. I know **** about coms so expect realy lame explanations.. I don't wait for exact models but rather what kind/class/frequencies/amount of chanels they had.... I never had walkee-talkie in hand so having explained what diference between CB radio, HAM radio other XXX-radio is... want to dig that problem more but don't know where to start... thanks

[Uncle Sam]

If you mean what kind of communications devices we used to talk to eachother within the team/squad?

Well...

We used to use sophisticated voice comms.

AKA

Screaming or Yelling.

The people who carried a radio were usually the Team Leaders, Squad Leaders, Platoon Leader and Platoon Sgt., and those were to talk to eachother and not the rest of the team, because they didn't have any.

Nowadays, I'm sure they have better comms.

[Herrmannek]

This is wwat i meant , I've seen lots of motorolas cellphone alike radios in pockets of all squads on pics. I'm curious what factors must such radio meet to be used in that way...

I'm talikng about such thingys but bought for all squad members, this is rather cheap **** ~70$ per piece(can be more and less of course), It says its from PMR whateve rthat means band...


Also I'm interested in some introduction to radio comunication, because i know nothing about that so i don't know how they work if they can cooperate with normal radios or CBs or whatever... If someone have knowledge or good link with explanation I would be gratefull...

[Hoplite_V]

I'm a big fan of each soldier having a raido talking to their squad leader/section commander.

It's so much easier and faster to be able to key up on a section frequency (or platoon) and talk to your buddy.

-hey tom those ****ing kids int he street keep giving that shed a weird look watch it

It's quick, to the point, no killing time on long radio procedure. It's buddies keeping in contact.

One main thing is that the radios NEED to be encrypted. It's too easy for someone to get a police scanner or same style of radio and use it to ambush soldiers talking back and forth. The army doesn't like troops using **** they don't approve. Pretty soon that convienient little radio you an your buddies used is replaced my a huge radio with 30 functions you'll never use.
Also, at the section commander level having to listen to 8 soldiers on top of the platoon commander on a different radio gives him that much more on his plate to deal with.

[ShakesFIST]

We used Motorola Talkabout 5720's and a variety of similar radios. They had a "5 mile range" and were small and light so they worked pretty good and only $50!

[John Cheese]

Intra team comms (inside a team) are usually dealt with using a UHF radio. This frequency range is meant for line of sight use, and depending on the power output you can reach up to 1 or 2 miles. This frequency range is also best for urban environments, because high frequencies tend to be less bothered by walls, corners, etc..... Problem that arises right then is that everybody that works in a city tries to squeeze in their comms in the UHF range.
If you want some more range, VHF is the way to go. Will enable inter-team comms, up to company or battallion level. Range, again depends on the power output. Normally you'd have a family of radio's; a handheld, a backpack-version, vehicle version, maybe even a helo version. Needless to say, the bigger it gets, the more power you'll get out of it. VHF is also line of sight dependant......

Is this what you meant?

[moughoun]

alot of countries, including the US, Australia, Canada ect have adopted the brit's PRR radio,which is part of their Bowman digital comm's system, and having used it, it is a nice bit of kit

[Herrmannek]

OK thanks.. Now tell me what kind of radios(modulation, frequencies, chanels and other tricks i don't know about) are out of there and what difference is between them...
And in what cathegory/class military radios fall....

[HoboWithAK]

http://www.awrm.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=19&DaysPrune=45

Read up, it's the only way you can learn it.

[Tattico]

For what i know, as intra squad radio u.s.army were using icom ic-4008m.

[shrek]

Vehicle to vehicle the Army usually uses the SINCGARS

Main Commo the PSC5D (SATCOM)

Team to team the MBITR

unsecured inter-team, ICOMS

During firefight (as mentioned earlier) Good, loud, cussing and screaming! "Cover me till this asshole stops shooting at me damnit!"

[Herrmannek]

Thanks... but if you find something more technical give a word, i want bandwidth, modulation etc things also if that radio works on public military and other kind of chanels sych kind of things...

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

RADMOR 3501 (http://www.radmor.com.pl/index.php?m_id=191&nr=18&o_g=0&lang=pl), basic squad/team level radio in Polish army.

[Hoplite_V]

Thanks... but if you find something more technical give a word, i want bandwidth, modulation etc things also if that radio works on public military and other kind of chanels sych kind of things...

Sounds like your planning something :roll:

[Herrmannek]

Thanks... but if you find something more technical give a word, i want bandwidth, modulation etc things also if that radio works on public military and other kind of chanels sych kind of things...

Sounds like your planning something :roll:

nothing illegal.. I just know nothing about radios, even those civilian ones. I don't know what diference is between CB and HAM, even i could understand technical info i don't have a source to get basic info and start to reasearch on my own and maybe make hobby of it... I'm kinda survivalist type of guy, I like to gather normaly usseles info that might come handy when **** will hit fan...

[shrek]

Well, specific freqs I obviously can't give you but the rnges used by the military are usually kept open for them. You can get in a lot of trouble using military freqs, especially around bases.

Almost all of the coms we used were incrypted, therefore tapping into them is impossible. Most of the ranges used are public knowledge and you can go to places like Radio Shack and get a free list of who uses what. You can tap into a lot of freqs (if that's what you into) with a radio that can be bought online from Canada. It's a scanner with no restricted freqs, they're a couple of hundred dollars!

[Herrmannek]

Thanks shrek, radioshack is kind of page i was looking for woot