Could someone identify these marines gear?

[El Diablo]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Gulf_War_2_Iraqi_Freedom_Marines/usmc113
^ guy on the far left


http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Gulf_War_2_Iraqi_Freedom_Marines/usmc102
^ guy on the far right

What kind of gear are those marines using? And is it available to the public? And if you could, do you have a link to a website that sells it?

Thanks alot,
El Diablo

[Digital Marine]

huh? you mean the NBC gear? with Interceptor Body armour over it?

[M1A2U2]

Yeah hes wearing a lot of stuff, MOLLE 2 webbing. What part are you talking about? and it prob is available because most all US stuff can be bought. Where are you from maybe we can do some trading

[El Diablo]

The web gear mainly, the harness, and the pouches.

[kaiser]

For the "USMC 113 - far Left" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color desert)
SWDG
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots or Jungle Boots(Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE SAW 100rd Pouch(in the middel of the waist)
ALICE Canteen w/Pouch(besides of the MOLLE II SAW 100rd Pouch)
MOLLE II SAW 200rd Pouch(right waist)
*the pouch on the left waist is too small to ID

For the "USMC 102 - far right" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color Desert)
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots (Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE II Sleeping Kit Carrier(from the left)
AN/PVS-7 NVG Soft Case(next to the sleeping kit carrier, the Green one)
MOLLE II Handgrenade Pouch(next to NVG Case)
MOLLE II Canteen/Utility Pouch(the right one)

The above are the gears I can ID from the photo, all of them can be purchase from the market.
All the MOOLE II equipment can go to www.specilatydefense.com
The ALICE gear can go to any military surplus shop,
the NVG softcase suppose come with the AN/PVS-7B or D(not ITT 6001)
the other clothing or helmet can buy from any military surplus shop.

These are the nomal gear configuration during the Iraq war of Marine, also the 101 Air Assault Division, and the Army ID3...but slightly difference.

[El Diablo]

Thanks alot guys, you've been real helpful.

[molsen]

For the "USMC 113 - far Left" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color desert)
SWDG
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots or Jungle Boots(Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE SAW 100rd Pouch(in the middel of the waist)
ALICE Canteen w/Pouch(besides of the MOLLE II SAW 100rd Pouch)
MOLLE II SAW 200rd Pouch(right waist)
*the pouch on the left waist is too small to ID

For the "USMC 102 - far right" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color Desert)
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots (Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE II Sleeping Kit Carrier(from the left)
AN/PVS-7 NVG Soft Case(next to the sleeping kit carrier, the Green one)
MOLLE II Handgrenade Pouch(next to NVG Case)
MOLLE II Canteen/Utility Pouch(the right one)

The above are the gears I can ID from the photo, all of them can be purchase from the market.
All the MOOLE II equipment can go to www.specilatydefense.com
The ALICE gear can go to any military surplus shop,
the NVG softcase suppose come with the AN/PVS-7B or D(not ITT 6001)
the other clothing or helmet can buy from any military surplus shop.

These are the nomal gear configuration during the Iraq war of Marine, also the 101 Air Assault Division, and the Army ID3...but slightly difference.

ECWCS? What are you talking about? That's a MOPP suit, for chemical warfare, NOT an ECWCS top and bottom. You need to think before you post, because you have absolutely no idea what you are saying.

[Virus]

I thought the chemical suits were OD green and not camo?

[kaiser]

For the "USMC 113 - far Left" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color desert)
SWDG
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots or Jungle Boots(Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE SAW 100rd Pouch(in the middel of the waist)
ALICE Canteen w/Pouch(besides of the MOLLE II SAW 100rd Pouch)
MOLLE II SAW 200rd Pouch(right waist)
*the pouch on the left waist is too small to ID

For the "USMC 102 - far right" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color Desert)
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots (Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE II Sleeping Kit Carrier(from the left)
AN/PVS-7 NVG Soft Case(next to the sleeping kit carrier, the Green one)
MOLLE II Handgrenade Pouch(next to NVG Case)
MOLLE II Canteen/Utility Pouch(the right one)

The above are the gears I can ID from the photo, all of them can be purchase from the market.
All the MOOLE II equipment can go to www.specilatydefense.com
The ALICE gear can go to any military surplus shop,
the NVG softcase suppose come with the AN/PVS-7B or D(not ITT 6001)
the other clothing or helmet can buy from any military surplus shop.

These are the nomal gear configuration during the Iraq war of Marine, also the 101 Air Assault Division, and the Army ID3...but slightly difference.

ECWCS? What are you talking about? That's a MOPP suit, for chemical warfare, NOT an ECWCS top and bottom. You need to think before you post, because you have absolutely no idea what you are saying.

That is the latest version of ECWCS, I'm do not have one so I can not list all the differences, but the most noticable difference is the shape of front pocket and the color of inner(blask), that must not be the MOPP because of three reasons:
1. they are all in combat stitution, no one will wearing a MOPP during combat stitution without a gasmask, because that means no protection.
2. all heat will keep inside the MOPP, that will make them die of heat instead of bullet,
3. if you think there is so hot in desert so they will not waer ECWCS, then you are wrong, because in desert, human body will lost heat very fast, so they need the ECWCS to keep warm, and protect tem from the sand and dust, in desert, sand storm is very destructive if you do not have shelter, the ECWCS acts like a shelter to protect the soldier.

[szr]

molsen is correct. It's MOPP. They're wearing the JSLIST, masks off.

[El Diablo]

How much do they go for? And are they too available to the public?

[molsen]

For the "USMC 113 - far Left" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color desert)
SWDG
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots or Jungle Boots(Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE SAW 100rd Pouch(in the middel of the waist)
ALICE Canteen w/Pouch(besides of the MOLLE II SAW 100rd Pouch)
MOLLE II SAW 200rd Pouch(right waist)
*the pouch on the left waist is too small to ID

For the "USMC 102 - far right" one, the configuration is like this :
PASGT Helmet w/Cover(3 color Desert)
ECWCS Gortex Coat(latest generation, notic the black color inner)
ECWCS Plants
Desert Boots (Altma or USMC)
Interceptet Body Armor(Woodland)
MOLLE II FLC
MOLLE II Sleeping Kit Carrier(from the left)
AN/PVS-7 NVG Soft Case(next to the sleeping kit carrier, the Green one)
MOLLE II Handgrenade Pouch(next to NVG Case)
MOLLE II Canteen/Utility Pouch(the right one)

The above are the gears I can ID from the photo, all of them can be purchase from the market.
All the MOOLE II equipment can go to www.specilatydefense.com
The ALICE gear can go to any military surplus shop,
the NVG softcase suppose come with the AN/PVS-7B or D(not ITT 6001)
the other clothing or helmet can buy from any military surplus shop.

These are the nomal gear configuration during the Iraq war of Marine, also the 101 Air Assault Division, and the Army ID3...but slightly difference.

ECWCS? What are you talking about? That's a MOPP suit, for chemical warfare, NOT an ECWCS top and bottom. You need to think before you post, because you have absolutely no idea what you are saying.

That is the latest version of ECWCS, I'm do not have one so I can not list all the differences, but the most noticable difference is the shape of front pocket and the color of inner(blask), that must not be the MOPP because of three reasons:
1. they are all in combat stitution, no one will wearing a MOPP during combat stitution without a gasmask, because that means no protection.
2. all heat will keep inside the MOPP, that will make them die of heat instead of bullet,
3. if you think there is so hot in desert so they will not waer ECWCS, then you are wrong, because in desert, human body will lost heat very fast, so they need the ECWCS to keep warm, and protect tem from the sand and dust, in desert, sand storm is very destructive if you do not have shelter, the ECWCS acts like a shelter to protect the soldier.
Gee, all these years I've been a US Marine, I guess we've been donig it wrong. :roll: You can go around pretending you know what you're talking about, but you don't, so SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!! Nothing you said above makes any sense, and if you weren't such a little pussy, then you'd join the military yourself. Go back home and play with your dolls some more, idiot. I DO HAVE a couple MOPP suits and a set of the newest ECWCS gear, and once again, you don't know what you're talking about. How can you know what it is if you don't have one? :roll: Does your mommy know you're on the computer, or did you miss the special ed bus to school today?!?

El Diablo, where are you at and what size do you where?

[Digital Marine]

http://www.armynavysales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Product_Code=MJ140&Category_Code=VTSH


is this the NBC suit?

[El Diablo]

Molsen I live in Houston, Texas, and I wear a Medium regular in BDU's.

[JTAR7242]

Those Marines are wearing MOPP gear, not the Gortex issue.

Trust me...

[molsen]

El D,

Be advised that chem suits are lined with a black charcoal lining which is used to neutralize any checmicals that come in contact with the suit. Anything you wear underneath will turn a nice black color, and don't try washing it in YOUR machine, cuz all you'll do is screw up whatever washing machine you use. I'd suggest sneaking it into a laundromat and using one of theirs (just don't get caught ;) .)

I have an extra chem suit, sz Large, if you're interested. PM me and let me know and I'll hook you up.

Mike

[szr]

http://www.armynavysales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Product_Code=MJ140&Category_Code=VTSH


is this the NBC suit?That's the old Chemical Protective Overgarment (CPO) worn durring the first Gulf War. It's bulky as hell. :lol:

I'm not sure where you could buy a JSLIST, but I'm sure there are plenty out there, waiting to be hunted down.

[eggroll]

The Jslist arent exactly readily available, and when you do find them they certainly are NOT 49.99.

These suits are a vast improvement over the older MOPP/BDO system in terms of wearability, comfort and utility. But granted it would suck to wear them day in and day out, especially in a desert environment.

Sig.

Look up the distinctions between MOPP levels 1-4

Issue ECWCS jackets in 1st or 2nd gen have NEVER had BLACK liners. In fact the taffeta nylon inner liner of the 1st gen was deleted in the 2nd generation as well as the pocket layout was reworked, and the hood structure was reduced slightly.

[El Diablo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36077&item=6502499453&rd=1

^ is this it?

[4fox]

thats the old chem suit.

In those pictures of the Marines, they're in MOPP2, MOPP4 is when you're totally suited up:boots, gloves, suit, and mask.

If anyone is interested in a desert JLISTS set I have one, sealed in package.


That is the latest version of ECWCS, I'm do not have one so I can not list all the differences, but the most noticable difference is the shape of front pocket and the color of inner(blask), that must not be the MOPP because of three reasons:
1. they are all in combat stitution, no one will wearing a MOPP during combat stitution without a gasmask, because that means no protection.
2. all heat will keep inside the MOPP, that will make them die of heat instead of bullet,
3. if you think there is so hot in desert so they will not waer ECWCS, then you are wrong, because in desert, human body will lost heat very fast, so they need the ECWCS to keep warm, and protect tem from the sand and dust, in desert, sand storm is very destructive if you do not have shelter, the ECWCS acts like a shelter to protect the soldier.
this is about the dumbest thing I've heard!

[El Diablo]

Woot, I think I found it, sorry for all of the questions

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6502064764&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

Thanks alot for yalls help.

[para504]

old mopp siut= death suit


where did you get a jlist suit at, a lot of units still don't have them

[4fox]

E.D, thats the old one too!

heres the new one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=588&item=6502441625&rd=1
google "JSLIST" and you'll find all kinds of stuff


Para, year the old stuff sucks ass! still have to wear it during training and you ALWAYS get the charcoal everywhere on you. yech..

the new ones are really nice. MUCH lighter and breathable.
I have a set from my last deployment.[/url]

[El Diablo]

I know that's the one I want, the old one.