What gun to buy first?

[wormie]

I am not sure what kind of gun to buy first... My friend wants me to get an M4, but there are a lot of world war II era weapons I want as well such as an M1911, M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, and various others... What do you guys think I should go for? This gun will be for shooting on the weekends and overall protection.

[memphiz]

Arent you only 16/17?

[wormie]

Arent you only 16/17?
That I am sir. ;)

[memphiz]

Arent you only 16/17?
That I am sir. ;)
Well I was going to say "Lil young to be owning a M4" but then I saw that your from Texas.... Get somthing bigger your state is slowly being invaded ;)

[wormie]

Arent you only 16/17?
That I am sir. ;)
Well I was going to say "Lil young to be owning a M4" but then I saw that your from Texas.... Get somthing bigger your state is slowly being invaded ;)

Yeah, and being in Harlingen, Texas im out on the frontline. :P

[digrar]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.

[wormie]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:

[MEGR]

K. Have you ever fired a gun is the first question. I'd go with a .22 rifle. Like a Ruger 10/22. Rugers, you can buy silencers and extended clips for them. M4s and AR15s are uber expensive 800-1000$. AK types are usually cheap. I saw one with a 75rd drum, 30rd clip, folding stock, and bayonet going around $505. Romanians cost around 300 to 400.

I got a cetme as my first. Good gun, but was not a smart choice as a first. .22 ammo is dirt cheap and it's fun as hell to shoot. I'd recommend a .22.

Good people to ask are Durandal and Geezah. They are the resident gun experts.

[memphiz]

Get a Chinese SKS there like 235$ Canadian

[wormie]

K. Have you ever fired a gun is the first question. I'd go with a .22 rifle. Like a Ruger 10/22. Rugers, you can buy silencers and extended clips for them. M4s and AR15s are uber expensive 800-1000$. AK types are usually cheap. I saw one with a 75rd drum, 30rd clip, folding stock, and bayonet going around $505. Romanians cost around 300 to 400.

I got a cetme as my first. Good gun, but was not a smart choice as a first. .22 ammo is dirt cheap and it's fun as hell to shoot. I'd recommend a .22.

Good people to ask are Durandal and Geezah. They are the resident gun experts.

The price dosn't really bother me at all... The M4 I want is going to be like 565 for the upper and 275 for the lower. That one would take a while to get which is why I am more aimed at something WWII era like a Carbine that would run about 350. My friend suggested I go for the M4 since it is the most expensive and then the rest will all come after it.

[MEGR]

ww2 era? I'd suggest an m1 carbine.

[ramy]

My first rifle is going to be a Armalite AR180B :-)

[wormie]

ww2 era? I'd suggest an m1 carbine.
Yea, im thinking the M1 Carbine using my own money, then getting an M1911 for Christmas. My grandfather has an M1911, I love the thing. He used it on Tarawa.

[MEGR]

That's sweet. 1911 armys don't sell for that much these days.. Well at least compared to the Kimbers and such. Ever thought aboot getting an SKS? Those are like gun-bargin-bin cheap.

[wormie]

That's sweet. 1911 armys don't sell for that much these days.. Well at least compared to the Kimbers and such. Ever thought aboot getting an SKS? Those are like gun-bargin-bin cheap.
Yeah, the SKS is pretty hot, I have not ever seen one in person or anything, but they look sexy. How much are we talking? I heard nagants go for $90.

[JTAR7242]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:
Well that pretty much reinforces that indication.

[MEGR]

Yea that sounds aboot right. I've seen sks go for at most 200 bucks. 762x39 ammo is really cheap too. They had 1000rds today going for 100 bucks!

[wormie]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:
Well that pretty much reinforces that indication.

Mmhmm, I must be highly immature for not knowing how to handle something that I have never had to deal with before in my life. If you didnt notice the :roll: after what I said here it is again...
:roll:

[wormie]

Yea that sounds aboot right. I've seen sks go for at most 200 bucks. 762x39 ammo is really cheap too. They had 1000rds today going for 100 bucks!
Very cool, I'll look into one. :)

[MEGR]

Wormie. A gun is no toy and I suppose you know that. When you get one, be responsible. Never keep it loaded. Get a trigger lock of course. Unload it while cleaning. It only takes one mess up to really cause harm.

[wormie]

Wormie. A gun is no toy and I suppose you know that. When you get one, be responsible. Never keep it loaded. Get a trigger lock of course. Unload it while cleaning. It only takes one mess up to really cause harm.
Yep. I've seen plenty of pictures of people that have shot themselves by accident while cleaning a loaded weapon... Not pretty at all. :|

[Sepper]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:
Well that pretty much reinforces that indication.

Ditto. 16 years old is too young to have an M4. I've seen enough violence in my life to tell me there is just something fundamentally wrong with allowing teenagers access to assault rifles.

[MEGR]

And you have soldiers doing it too. Bad way to go man. Oh yea, watch out for some of these gun store owners. They'll try to sucker you like a used car sales man.

[MEGR]

16 year olds can't purchase firearms

18 is the age where you can buy rifles and shotguns.. Not pistols.

[Sepper]

Arent you only 16/17?
That I am sir. ;)

Hence the reason I stated.

[Stl. boy]

Check out the Civilian Marksmanship Program if you want an M1 Garand. You have to jump through a few hoops to get them (check out the eligability requirements), but they are cheap.


http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm

[TriggerPuller]

get yourself a .22 pistol or rifle first and learn how to use it properly. M-4,M-1 or SKS for overall protection? Whats that all about?

TP

[JTAR7242]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:
Well that pretty much reinforces that indication.
Mmhmm, I must be highly immature for not knowing how to handle something that I have never had to deal with before in my life. If you didnt notice the :roll: after what I said here it is again...
:roll:
And by the same reasoning it doesn't occur to you that perhaps buying an AR type assault rifle might not be a good idea?

Just remember, people will judge you online by the face you present. /shrug

[wormie]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:
Well that pretty much reinforces that indication.
Mmhmm, I must be highly immature for not knowing how to handle something that I have never had to deal with before in my life. If you didnt notice the :roll: after what I said here it is again...
:roll:
And by the same reasoning it doesn't occur to you that perhaps buying an AR type assault rifle might not be a good idea?

Just remember, people will judge you online by the face you present. /shrug
I dont really care what people think of me online. :P

[wormie]

get yourself a .22 pistol or rifle first and learn how to use it properly. M-4,M-1 or SKS for overall protection? Whats that all about?

TP

I've got to fight off the Mexican Banditos.

[ramy]

haha

Mexican Banditos eh ? You live near the border ?
I hear guys up in Arizona ? have run ins with illegal immegrants daily and sometimes the bullets start flying..

[memphiz]

Yea that sounds aboot right. I've seen sks go for at most 200 bucks. 762x39 ammo is really cheap too. They had 1000rds today going for 100 bucks!
$200CND but if you buy it in Canada you can only get a 5 round clip

[TriggerPuller]

get yourself a .22 pistol or rifle first and learn how to use it properly. M-4,M-1 or SKS for overall protection? Whats that all about?

TP

I've got to fight off the Mexican Banditos.Kids today!! Stick to airsoft junior you are not ready for the responsibility of a real firearm!!

TP

[Seraphim]

Dont ask until you have the money and your license.

[usa320]

yeah, i dont think this dude needs a gun, especially a high powered assault one.


When it does come time to buy a gun, start with a remmington or Rueger .22 rifle... something easy to use and maintain. You gotta learn the basics before you go buying an M-4 or CAR-15.

[eckslax]

I heard nagants go for $90.

Yes, they are dirt cheap. I have one myself (M44) and it's a damn nice rifle for the money. The ammo isn't free like .22, but it's still a lot cheaper than .223 for an M4. Anyways, the M44 was my first gun, and while I like it a lot, it's probably not one I'd recommend for plinking (I use my 9mm Beretta CX4 Storm for that p-) ).

For a nice starter weapon, I'll simply repeat what others have said and recommend a nice .22. I'd go with a Ruger 10/22 as it's a nice solid gun with tons of additions you can buy for it. I myself am asking for the stainless steel version for my birthday. I'll then outfit it with a pistol grip and folding stock to make it nice and compact. The ammo is dirt cheap (almost free) and there's really no kick, so your shoulder will thank you.

My final recommendation is to talk with your parents about you owning a firearm. Do NOT go behind their back and purchase one. Work out a deal with them on storage, safety, etc. Take a safety class to brush up on some of the basics. I'm not 18, but I own two rifles (M44 and 9mm Beretta CX4 Storm). My dad bought them both under his name using my money. Once I turn 18, we will transfer them to my name. We worked out a deal where I could buy these rifles prior to my 18th birthday, but there is to be no live ammo in the house. I think it's a fair comprimise, as no live ammo = no accidents. Always remember that it only takes one pull of the trigger to fsck things up real bad, so always practice the utmost safety when handling a firearm. If you're smart about it, owning a firearm can be a VERY rewarding and fun thing. :D

[mr.x]

license
What are you talking about? You do not need a lisence to own a firearm in most of the US, let alone Texas.
As far as age goes, if juniors parental unit buys it for him he is good to go.
He cannot purchase it on his own of course, but he can receive it as a gift from his parents.

Do everyone, including yourself, a favor wormie and enroll in a hunters safety program if you haven't already completed one. Lots of good info and general firearms safety issues are covered. Even if you do not plan on hunting it is not at all a bad way to start out on the road to firearm ownership. I realize you are young but making jokes online about the banditos (and I know how they can be from firsthand experience) is NOT the way to go about soliciting advice from many of us older fellas here.

As far as starter guns go do you have any experience with firearms yet?
Pricewise and functionally the SKS wouldn't be a bad one at all.
As far as M1 Carbines go, they are fun and handy little firearms.
I had an Inland and an Underwood which I sold to buy an IBM.
My buddy has an Rock-a-la (yes, as in the old jukeboxes) and man is it clean....

If you want a true war era gun don't be fooled by those that may try to pass off an Universal or Plainfield as a WWII carbine. The Plainfields were made for police dpts and aren't too bad as shooters nor are they as expensive as true war carbines. Universals in my opinion are simply junk.

Then you get to decide whether you want the first version without the bayo lug (watch out, lots of fakes out there) or the later war versions.

Anyway, have fun shopping and most of all...learning.

[eggroll]

should we be watching the TV? An evil assault weapon jumped up and shot someone in the pecker while attempting to "clean" said weapon.

:bash:

[Virus]

get yourself a .22 pistol or rifle first and learn how to use it properly. M-4,M-1 or SKS for overall protection? Whats that all about?

TP


/agree on the .22 thing, first gun i shot, it was some bolt action .22, when i was 14 i think? Then i went to my dads friend in colorado......sks, mini - 14, 44 magnum, 357 mag, glock 9mm, and a benelli M1 super :O....i was like...pimpin da hoes...and by pimping i mean shooting and by hoes i mean targets :oops: first rifle i OWNED...mosin-nagant 91/30...gotta love da bolties :D....but if yo truely want an assault rifle at 16 wormster...just get a cheapy little romanian ak, got mine for under 300$...and they are TUFF little bitchs too.


And of course firearm safety is always a plus....the whole shabang in dont put finger on trigger unless your ready to fire, dont point at something you arent ready to kill, **** like that, all important ...and a gunsafe or a gunlock would also be something to think about

[perdurabo]

license
What are you talking about? You do not need a lisence to own a firearm in most of the US, let alone Texas.
As far as age goes, if juniors parental unit buys it for him he is good to go.
He cannot purchase it on his own of course, but he can receive it as a gift from his parents.


DAMN you Yanks !! why Europe is so pussified? :( f*ing commies :fork:

[kayaker]

Suggest join the military. Get some weapon disipline. With 10.000 gun related deaths in the US each year its the best thing to do.

Im content with the fact that we cannot own guns on a large scale in europe. on average 100+- deaths each year in each european country.

[MEGR]

Yea that sounds aboot right. I've seen sks go for at most 200 bucks. 762x39 ammo is really cheap too. They had 1000rds today going for 100 bucks!
$200CND but if you buy it in Canada you can only get a 5 round clip

What? That's blasphemy. Come here and we can get you Ak banana clips for that thing.

[mr.x]

DAMN you Yanks !! why Europe is so pussified? f*ing commies

what the hell is that all about^
Is everybody cranky this weekend?

[wormie]

haha

Mexican Banditos eh ? You live near the border ?
I hear guys up in Arizona ? have run ins with illegal immegrants daily and sometimes the bullets start flying..
I am twelve miles north of the American/Mexican border. ;)

[memphiz]

Yea that sounds aboot right. I've seen sks go for at most 200 bucks. 762x39 ammo is really cheap too. They had 1000rds today going for 100 bucks!
$200CND but if you buy it in Canada you can only get a 5 round clip

What? That's blasphemy. Come here and we can get you Ak banana clips for that thing.
That'd be so cool, highly illegal but super cool
My uncle has a 10rnd clip

[eckslax]

Suggest join the military.

Best suggestion yet.

[American Patriot]

Depends on what how much you want to spend. An AKM clone is a good beginner rifle and is cheap too ($300.) You will enjoy it. :) http://catalog.jgsales.com/itemlist.php?classid=1636

[eggroll]

i think the matter is how well is the UNIT behind the TRIGGER.

And yes a little basic research on the net would find a GOOD price on either system.... although for a first timer an AK would be advisable. Cheap, cheap ammo and relatively cheap magazines.... not to mention its monkey-simple to operate and clean.

[Sepper]

get yourself a .22 pistol or rifle first and learn how to use it properly. M-4,M-1 or SKS for overall protection? Whats that all about?

TP

I've got to fight off the Mexican Banditos.

1. How about we stay away from the racism. I realize you live in Texas and it must come naturally, but try to block your instincts.

2. Join the military. They've got all the M4s you can wet dream about.

[mr.x]

I realize you live in Texas an it must come naturally, but try to block your instincts.

hmm, stereotyping seems to be in vogue lately...

[Haiw]

I realize you live in Texas an it must come naturally, but try to block your instincts.

hmm, stereotyping seems to be in vogue lately...
Are you trying to stereotype the stereotypers?

[mr.x]

^dude, don't go using that logic stuff on me, I'm wise to your Vulcan mind control tricks... ;)

[11F5S]

I'd go with a carbine and since you live in Texas, I'd opt for one with a western heritage.

http://www.bbgunworld.com/store/item153.htm

[11F5S]

. p-)

[Geezah]

I sugest a super soaker. This thread I dont f*** know (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31963&highlight=) idicates that is all you are mature enough to handle at this stage.
Bitch, you dont know me! :fork:

:roll:
Well that pretty much reinforces that indication.

Ditto. 16 years old is too young to have an M4. I've seen enough violence in my life to tell me there is just something fundamentally wrong with allowing teenagers access to assault rifles.

Kids do not have access to "Assault Rifles" unless you mean in the military, we're talking about semi-auot here ;)

[Geezah]

wormie, I tend to agree with a few of the comments here.

I purchased my first firearm when I was 31yrs old and I was somewhat nervous about the whole thing, and the first one was a WASR-10(Romanian AK47-semi-auto). This in my oponion is not a good first firearm or ones similar in their class for a 16-17yr old, but that's just me.
I would make your first purchase a Ruger 10/22, something nice and easy and a great plinker, cheap ammo, it's not uncommon for me to spend 6-7hrs at the range with just that rifle, and it's amazing what you can do to them.
I'll post a pic of mine over the next few days, the only thing that is stockis the reciever and even though I've put some $ into not anyway near as much as some other people.

If you haven't done so already, read as much as you can on the laws in your state and the national laws for firearm ownership, read up as much as you can on how they work.
We don't want to give the antis any fuel for their fire and it's also good to shoot them down with no comebacks when they question why you own firearms.
We want to start the next genrations of firearm owners off the right way ;)

Good luck.

[Geezah]

2. Join the military. They've got all the M4s you can wet dream about.

Why, all that is available to the public is a comestic semi-auto version of what they use in the military?
So, you're suggesting he join up because of cosmetics? :|

[Durandal]

Well, at 16, buying a gun from a private individual, the only way you could get around the law, would be a felony.

You get caught....

You become a non-citizen.

No voting rights.

No legal ownership of firearms.

You can shoot firearms though and possibly, in Texas, you might be allowed to receive a long-arm (rifle or shot-gun) as a gift, so long as you use it with a person OVER the age of 21.

You get caught shooting it by yourself and you might get arrested (though I would imagine it would be more like a slap on the wrist).

Examine your State's laws, since I am not a lawyer and COULD be wrong. Texas, while very liberal when it comes to guns, isn't the most liberal...Nevada is more gun owner friendly than Texas for example...as is New Hampshire who is trying to pass conceal carry as an automatic right...no testing or licensing).

At 16, though, and I would recommend something something that teaches the fundamentals. Thus a rifle, probably a Ruger 10/22 would probably be the best.

[Durandal]

Damn, Gheeza and I suggest the same gun...shoudl have known that would happen. :)

[TacoDelRio]

You can't even do a PPT till you are 18 for rifles anyway.

10/22's are great. I foyu want to modify it for whatever purpose, the market is huge.

[Durandal]

Well, assuming the NRA/ILA website is correct (and it usually is). You cannot own a fire arm or purchase one under the age of 18.

Two more years little man unless your parents get into the deal.

Here is the pertinent information for Texas:


It is unlawful to knowingly sell, rent, give or offer to sell, rent or give any firearm to a person under 18 years of age, without the written consent of his parent or guardian.

IF I were your parents, and I thought you could be responsible with a firearm, a Ruger 10/22 would probably be the best thing for you. Simple to use and operate, easy to clean, easy to understand how it works, REALLY cheap to shoot.

An M4 or an AK SAR is completely out of your league right now...as are handguns. Maybe a shotgun, but the 10/22 is FAR more fun to shoot.

[Chris O`Crooh]

Wormie, if money isn`t a problem, how `bout buying M-16 with .22 conversion kit, plinking some "seeds" and then, after you`re 18/21 (? don`t know which is correct), turning back to standard bolt and .223?

[FallenAngel]

I too suggest you start off with a Ruger 10/22. I've been shooting since I was about 10 and the gun my dad started me off with was a 10/22. Awesome learning gun.

when you turn 18 or 21....THEN you start thinking about maybe getting a M4. Right now, though, at 16 it seems a bit out of your league.

M1 Carbines are great too. Fun gun to shoot.

[MEGR]

The verdict? Get a Ruger 10/22.

[TacoDelRio]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.

[Sabre]

F*ck me.

Why not go the whole hog and get yourself a MANPAD system! ;)

[Roger Rabbit]

Old school
http://www.dover-kent.co.uk/defence/images/pic_pocket_pistol.jpg

[Haiw]

http://www.backyardartillery.com/slingshots/1cS9.jpg

[memphiz]

This owns you all
http://seis.natsci.csulb.edu/bperry/metaconglhandsample2.JPG

[moughoun]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.
the Barret's a POS that's why

[Roger Rabbit]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.
the Barret's a POS that's why

Whats wrong with it?

[moughoun]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.
the Barret's a POS that's why

Whats wrong with it?
compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good

[Roger Rabbit]

compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good
Yeah but if you take a picture of yourself holding one and show it around then little school boys will cream their underwear.....i'll get my coat. p-)

[moughoun]

compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good
Yeah but if you take a picture of yourself holding one and show it around then little school boys will cream their underwear.....i'll get my coat. p-)
I'm creaming right now looking at that pic :D







What!?!?!?!....... :oops:

[Geezah]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.
the Barret's a POS that's why

Whats wrong with it?
compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good

I'd sell my mother-in-law to white slave traders to get a .50 Accuracy International p-)

[moughoun]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.
the Barret's a POS that's why

Whats wrong with it?
compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good

I'd sell my mother-in-law to white slave traders to get a .50 Accuracy International p-)
you'd sell her for a packet of peanut's, go on admit it :lol:

[Ratamacue]

the Barret's a POS that's why
Whats wrong with it?
compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good
Curious that the US would choose the Barrett XM109 for a 25mm sniper rifle for the future if that's the case.

[Geezah]

You are all wrong! Best first gun is a....

BARRETT M82A2 BULLPUP
http://www.gurpsmaster.de/barrett.jpg

Hell yes.
the Barret's a POS that's why

Whats wrong with it?
compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good

I'd sell my mother-in-law to white slave traders to get a .50 Accuracy International p-)
you'd sell her for a packet of peanut's, go on admit it :lol:

So long as they're roasted p-) but saying that, I'd sell her for a pair of skidded up grundies

[cchccrowder]

do you guys know of any places where u can get accessories for .22s? i havent found any online.
thanks
-cchccrowder

[moughoun]

the Barret's a POS that's why
Whats wrong with it?
compared to other .50 cal precision rifles that is ;) , the Accuracy international .50cal for one, which was tested here against the barret, the result's for the barret were not good
Curious that the US would choose the Barrett XM109 for a 25mm sniper rifle for the future if that's the case.
I don't think the US military uses foriegn sniper rifles?, and AI don't make a 25mm anti material weapon. if they did, it would kick the barret's bum p-)

[Geezah]

do you guys know of any places where u can get accessories for .22s? i havent found any online.
thanks
-cchccrowder

If you after 10/22 parts, check out EABCO (http://eabco.com/) or Power Custom (http://powercustom.com/) for sweet trigger parts woot

[Durandal]

I'd sell my mother-in-law to white slave traders to get a .50 Accuracy International p-)

Dude, its your mother-in-law. You are not saying much here. p-)

I have to say though the AI .50 is a lot sweeter. Of course, its another 4 to 6 GRAND to purchase one too.

Plus, unlike AI, Barret has always been very active in the pro-gun movement here in the United States. I would always support an American company that supports my rights over a British one that could care less.

Not too say that I would complain if any of you fine individuals want to play Santa and get me an AI in .50 to put under my tree...or rather to put the tree on top of. :)

[MEGR]

The only Barret product I'm looking at are the M468s they got now. Although a nice 50 cal would be nice.

[memphiz]

If I bought a AI .50...Id use it to shoot gophers p-)


Be like shooting a person with a tank

[MEGR]

You know those gophers had it coming anyways. One might give birth to the anti-christ!

[mr.x]

edit

[TacoDelRio]

Gees you guys! That Accuracy International whatever pussy gun.... WHO CARES MAN!!! $10,000 before tax and DROS it sucks compared to my first gun!

BEHOLD, MOTHERFU*KERS!
http://www.eyeonstarwars.com/trilogy/vehicle/images/death_star.jpg
My Death Star!

Parking is kinda cheap for it though.

Here's me firing it at some puny little planet, I don't remember the name BUT I BET THERE WERE ALOT OF AI .50 OWNERS ON IT!
http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/deathstarfiring.gif

Apparently, I parked it above Texas:
http://www.sfdebris.com/deathstartexas.jpg

So in all honesty, how many of you keyboard jockeys have any true experience with this weapon:
http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/Dc5.jpg
Range time? Lugging it around accross ****ty terrain? You know, USING IT? I'd still take our M107's over it, which would give me a bit more PT than I wanted.

Point being this is random as hell, and I will always have a bigger gun than you guys. So don't even try to top my Death Star!

[mr.x]

Your Death Star was destroyed by a young, gay, Jedi in training.
How tough is that?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/ouchieusa/luke.jpg

[Geezah]

So in all honesty, how many of you keyboard jockeys have any true experience with this weapon:
http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/Dc5.jpg
Range time? Lugging it around accross ****ty terrain? You know, USING IT? I'd still take our M107's over it, which would give me a bit more PT than I wanted.

Point being this is random as hell, and I will always have a bigger gun than you guys. So don't even try to top my Death Star!

We have a much better chance of using than you do, seeing as you live in Commiefornia and come January it's off limits to all girlymen p-) becuase of the potential to shoot planes out of the sky rofl :cantbeli:

[Durandal]

So in all honesty, how many of you keyboard jockeys have any true experience with this weapon:
http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/Dc5.jpg
Range time? Lugging it around accross ****ty terrain? You know, USING IT? I'd still take our M107's over it, which would give me a bit more PT than I wanted.

I have, and the gun is heavy as f•ck. Enjoyable to shoot. More so, I think, than the RAI 50 or the M82.

But like I said above, Barrett as company is bad ass when it comes to making a statement about gun ownership and 2nd Amendment rights.

I'll post a thread in the political section about it.

[Initiative]

So in all honesty, how many of you keyboard jockeys have any true experience with this weapon:
http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/Dc5.jpg
Range time? Lugging it around accross ****ty terrain? You know, USING IT? I'd still take our M107's over it, which would give me a bit more PT than I wanted.

I have, and the gun is heavy as f•ck. Enjoyable to shoot. More so, I think, than the RAI 50 or the M82.

But like I said above, Barrett as company is bad ass when it comes to making a statement about gun ownership and 2nd Amendment rights.

I'll post a thread in the political section about it.

Your friend has one? (If you don't mind me asking.)

[MEGR]

Gees you guys! That Accuracy International whatever pussy gun.... WHO CARES MAN!!! $10,000 before tax and DROS it sucks compared to my first gun!

BEHOLD, MOTHERFU*KERS!
http://www.eyeonstarwars.com/trilogy/vehicle/images/death_star.jpg
My Death Star!

Parking is kinda cheap for it though.

Here's me firing it at some puny little planet, I don't remember the name BUT I BET THERE WERE ALOT OF AI .50 OWNERS ON IT!
http://www.grudge-match.com/Images/deathstarfiring.gif

Apparently, I parked it above Texas:
http://www.sfdebris.com/deathstartexas.jpg

So in all honesty, how many of you keyboard jockeys have any true experience with this weapon:
http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/Dc5.jpg
Range time? Lugging it around accross ****ty terrain? You know, USING IT? I'd still take our M107's over it, which would give me a bit more PT than I wanted.

Point being this is random as hell, and I will always have a bigger gun than you guys. So don't even try to top my Death Star!

I bet that came with an ATF $200 tax stamp.

[memphiz]

You know those gophers had it coming anyways. One might give birth to the anti-christ!
Exactly
they're threatening our national security

[Durandal]

Your friend has one? (If you don't mind me asking.)

His father. He has four AI precision rifles. I have fired the ones chambered in .300 WM and the .50. My other friends father has two AND a RAI (Gheeza declined the chance to shoot that mf'er). I know several people that own a variety of Barretts. The Semi-Autos have almost no recoil. In fact ALL of them had less kick than the AI in .300...their muzzle breaks work great.

The range we shot at was a private on, recently purchased land with no road access at the time. Hauled the AI .50 for a 1/4 mile and was appalled. The thing is frigg'n hog. He has a road in now but haven't been shooting up there in close to two years.

The .300 AI is pretty heavy too.

All the guns are way out of my budget right now (The AI .50 is something on the order of 10K new and the B's range from 4500.00 to 8000). Though I would love to be able to buy a Barrett in the next 5 years or so, it isn't a priority. I have a house I want to build and that receives the funds right now...with a couple trips buying deals too good to pass up on at gun shows from time to time.

[Durandal]

I bet that came with an ATF $200 tax stamp.

Not at all. Its a semi-automatic rifle in .50 BMG. No tax stamp needed. Any law abiding citizen can buy one.

The cost though keeps it in the hands of those with the green...like most high end guns.

[MEGR]

I was talking about the Death Star ;)

[Initiative]

Thanks Durandal.

[Durandal]

I was talking about the Death Star ;)

rofl rofl rofl

[Durandal]

On a completely unrelated note, I bought a M1 Carbine, a shoulder rig for my 92FS, 3000 rounds of 9mm, 100 rounds of SS109 5.56, 100 rounds of 7.62x51, and 240 rounds of .30 for the carbine in stripper clips and bandoliers. My X-mas present for myself.

My friend picked up a Yugo SKS covered in cosmoline which we cleaned up when we got it back...takes about two hours with 2 people being anal about it. My old man picked up his first 9mm auto-loader a Browning High-Power, actually made in Belgium at the FN plant (rather than in the US)...a nice pick.

Geezah gets to shoot it with me tomorrow in sub-30 degree weather with snow.

Pictures of the shoot in general will be up later Sunday night if I have the time.

[Seraphim]

I was handling a m1 carbine the other day, interesting lil things.

[eggroll]

Maybe when you grow up and have sufficient gray matter, common sense, and a reasonable bank account, perhaps you will EVENTUALLY amass a collection like this.

http://coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/usmc03-album-1/DSC00641.jpg

until that time, wait until you are legally able to own a 10/22

EGG

[Durandal]

*sigh* too many duplicates. I'd cash in a couple of those ARs and AKs for something tasty.

Nice collection though. Do you have a tax stamp for the shotty?

[MEGR]

Aside from RPGs and mortars, your collection looks like a cache found in Iraq Eggroll.

Like Durandal, I'd like a little diversity, but your collection is still uber sweet nonetheless.

[American Patriot]

Pfft, you call that a cache?

[MEGR]

Pfft, you call that a cache?

I did call it a cache. I called it a cache in the reply above yours.

[perdurabo]

wow eggroll you have private army or something?
6 ARs
3 AKs
2 FAL? CETME?
7 pistols
1 shotgun
1 remington 700??
i'd call it cache small cache but niece cache

[Geezah]

Geezah gets to shoot it with me tomorrow in sub-30 degree weather with snow.


My Wife decided to hide the cable box for the computer last weekend, so I've been unable to get online from home, she claims she can't remember where she put it, this was all after a little arguement we had. I should know better than to f#$@ with a woman :cantbeli:
Anyway I didn't go yesterday, I couldn't get the address until late and then with the snow we got Saturday night I decided to give it a miss, I pussed out :P but atleast I was warm p-)

My Wife is still claiming she can't remember where she put the box :|

[Geezah]

Maybe when you grow up and have sufficient gray matter, common sense, and a reasonable bank account, perhaps you will EVENTUALLY amass a collection like this.

http://coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/usmc03-album-1/DSC00641.jpg

until that time, wait until you are legally able to own a 10/22

EGG

Nice collection there, but me thinks you like Glocks too much :| where are the Sigs p-)

[MEGR]

Just came from the range. First time since I got here...Anyways, aside from my CETME, I rented and fired a Bushmaster m4, a romanian Ak47, and this

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976421465-1.jpg

I was suprised at how accurate the AK47 was.

[Geezah]

Just came from the range. First time since I got here...Anyways, aside from my CETME, I rented and fired a Bushmaster m4, a romanian Ak47, and this

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976421465-1.jpg

I was suprised at how accurate the AK47 was.

What range were you shooting on the AK, and yes they are pretty acurate.

Also what did you think of the Beretta Storm

[MEGR]

I was in an indoor range.

The Beretta was light as hell. It was very ergonomical and pretty darn accurate too. The whole gun was plastic. The only problem I had with it was loading the magazine. It was just a pain in the arse. All in all, it was a good plinking gun. I hung the target on my door. It has about 200 bullet holes in it. A good day I must say.

[Geezah]

I was in an indoor range.


What distance were you shooting the AK

[MEGR]

Not too far. The range was only about 75 yards. I think I shot it at about 50+ yards. Maybe 60 yards.

[Durandal]

What loads did you use in the Storm? .45, 9mm, or .40? What grain?

Just curious. I absolutely loath the Beretta 9000S (in 9mm) that I am skeptical of anything that same design team put together (they also did the Storm).

Just curious.

[Options465]

Get a water gun

[eckslax]

I love my Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm. It's pure ***.

[MEGR]

What loads did you use in the Storm? .45, 9mm, or .40? What grain?

Just curious. I absolutely loath the Beretta 9000S (in 9mm) that I am skeptical of anything that same design team put together (they also did the Storm).

Just curious.

I just used a 9x19 round. Didn't check the grain. I just wanted to see how it fired so I chewed through 50 rounds without blinking. I thought it was a pretty decent rifle. The magazines were such a pain to load. That was my only issue with it.

[OzMan]

Minigun. End of discussion.

[Geezah]

What loads did you use in the Storm? .45, 9mm, or .40? What grain?

Just curious. I absolutely loath the Beretta 9000S (in 9mm) that I am skeptical of anything that same design team put together (they also did the Storm).

Just curious.

I just used a 9x19 round. Didn't check the grain. I just wanted to see how it fired so I chewed through 50 rounds without blinking. I thought it was a pretty decent rifle. The magazines were such a pain to load. That was my only issue with it.

Possibly 9mm 115gr, do you know which brand?

[MEGR]

This is what was on the bottom of one of the 9mm shells. It says 9mm, PMC, Luger.