airborne

[jokiemastah]

what is the diff. between 82nd airborne and 101st airborne?

[Kitsune]

19 Airborne :lol:

[Alleycat]

Thats fricken hilarious. :D rofl

[hood]

As far as I know it's just another division of the army.

[Nelson]

101st is Air Assault. If that means anything?

[Ratamacue]

101st is, like Nelson said, Air Assault. That means that they're more capable when it comes to insertion by helicopter, and, if I'm not mistaken, they have the capability to fastrope and the like.

82nd is qualified in jumps via C-130/C-17/etc.

[FallenAngel]

Rat is right. 101st is a heli-borne assualt division while the 82nd is more a old school parachute division although both divisions are capable of the same missions.

[JiJoMacLE45]

To the best of my knowledge, you are no longer required to be jump qualed to serve with the 101st. Just like mechanized infantry ride Bradley's into combat, the 101st ride Blackhawks and Chinooks. Everyone in the 82nd however has their jump wings and they jump out of planes into combat.

[SHOOTERB]

The 82nd ABN is the Armys only ABN DIV. They would normally jump into combat in order to fight to their OBJ, as was seen in the PANAMA invaision.
The 101st is the Armys only Air Assault DIV. They would normally arrive at their OBJ by helicopter. The 82nd also may Air Assault with helos onto their OBJ as is being done in Afghanistan at the present, but the 101st will never jump into combat by parachute. You do not have to be ABN qualified to be in the 101st but you MUST be ABN qualified to be in Americas Guard of Honor. The 101st maintains the ABN patch for historical lineage honors only. They are both good infantry units but each have a different means to arrive at the OBJ. However the 75th Ranger Regiment is the best light infantry unit in the Army, and most likely the world, and can arrive at their OBJ by either means.

[SHOOTERB]

I forgot to say the 101st will never fastrope. They will most likely airland or rappel. Fastroping is for SOF only. The big green Army dosent like it.

[digrar]

I would take the Gurkas any day as the finest light Infantry in the world.

[SHOOTERB]

Good for you! You must be a Brit!

[warchild1/27scout]

101st is still called airborne and has the patch for historical reasons only.they are now air assault.the 82nd is,if my facts are right,the largest and best all airborne unit in the free world.now i trained with the ghurkas and they are awesome but if i were you i would'nt bet against the usa on any battlefield.we invented ranger school and WE WILL PREVAIL.NO MATTER WHAT.

[digrar]

Nah Australian, but I've been around a bit and rangers wouldn't make my top three.

[a. enders]

I'm pretty sure it reads 101st (Air Assault).At least,that's the way I've always seen it.

[Ratamacue]

101st Airborne (Air Assault)

[96B]

What the hell is a Gurka anyways? Im ignorant please enlighten me

[papabear]

http://www.army.mod.uk/brigade_of_gurkhas/
http://www.thegurkhamuseum.co.uk/

[digrar]

Gurkas are Nepalese tribemen. They serve with the British army and the Indian Army. The British Gurkas are better trained and equiped and are the cream of the crop.
Selectors tour the villages in the hills and young Nepalese men trial to be selected. In 1995 there were 57000 aplicants for 154 positions. It is generally a family tradion to serve and great prestige comes about from being a Gurka.
A fair slice of the Nepalese economy comes in the form of these soldiers service pensions, coming third behind tourisim and forign aid.
The mere fact that the gurkas were coming was enogh to make Argentinian soldiers surrender during the Falklands.
They are probably the fittest, most couragous, disciplined soldiers going around.

[Kitsune]

Back in 1941 german paratroopers invading crete were specifically warned not to engage them in close combat. They were adviced to target the commanding british officer if possible, since it was thought that gurkha unit fighting effectiveness would be reduced considerably when these officers were gone.

But Gurkhas alone will probably not win a war. Crete was taken by 20.000 german paratroopers after grim fighting, although defended by double as much commonwealth troops (mostly british and nz troops).
In 1944 again german paratroopers fought against Gurkhas when defendig Monte Cassino. And again Gurkhas alone could not defeat them and suffered heavy losses in fact.

If anyone ist interested in those fights, look at:www.greendevils.com/
(english language).


p-)

[96B]

Kitsune, it was because they had G36s, it wont fair :lol:

[SHOOTERB]

I'll agree that the Gurkas are bad ass' my money is still on the 75th Ranger Regiment. Ive never worked with Gurkas but i have worked with a few 22 SAS and SASR "Blokes" and they spoke of the Gurkas well so out of professional respect I'll go along with it.

It is 101st Airborne (Air Assault). There is no Air Assault Tab to be worn just Air Assault wings. There is however a few positions within the division that are Airborne coded positions that allow the soldier to jump for pay, but i would guess there is less than 150. I know the Div CDR has one and I think the Pathfinder Company are all coded positions but Im not sure.

[96B]

Im a Marine fanatic, and even after research I'd still say 75th Ranger Regiment. I definately think the Gurkas are pretty badass though.

[warchild1/27scout]

for airborne light infantry assault shock troops there is no one on the face of the earth that can beat 75th ranger regiment.they're the best.

[Matt]

nope rangers r not near as good as marines 24th MEU (SOC) is the best of the best

[Ratamacue]

The 24th MEU(SOC), or any other MEU, while pretty much on-par with the Rangers, is NOT airborne-qualified. Therefore, the Rangers have the advantage.

[96B]

Since Rangers are all airborne qualified, yes they have an advantage. Within the MEU SOC however are units that are qualified such as Force Reconaissance but their mission is entirely differant than that of Rangers. As a whole, MEU SOCs have much more broad capability and firepower than that of a Ranger Regiment, but the Rangers have an entirely differant mission and are specialized troopers. I read somewhere that they are like 82nd on steroids, I think that is a good analogy.