Marines shooting at Insurgents in a bus *GRAPHIC VIDEO*

[Makaveli]

amazing how fast that bus went up in flames!

Incendiary rounds do that pretty fast :)

I am definitely a n00b when it comes to multi-media. I am having the same problem as Argyll. When I download it all I get is audio, no video feeds.

I have the same prob. too. So I tried looking around for a codec and couldn't find any. Try it instead with Real Player, odds are it won't work initially, but at least with mine it automatically looked for a codec to play it and once you download it for free you can view the vid. with Real Player instead. It's not too bad. Hope this helps. :D

I had the same problem then I d/l DivX and it works fine now with windows mp. http://www.divx.com/divx/download/

[scm77]

Argyll and High drag did you download the Fraps codec? There was a link a few pages ago.

No, I guess I missed it. Any idea what page in this novel?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download149.html

There we go. First page I looked (luckily) :lol:

[Lupin]

I have an asking, when they open the bus door to get out because of the fire. Before the guy runs, are they shooting to tell don't move or are they actually shooting at them while not being attacked ?

May be they are shooting to tell them not to move... but as we've heard some soldiers tell their comrads to stop shooting "They are f*cking unarmed!"

But the man run over the guard house,,, very sad....he run to survive from fire but he didnt survive from gun fire....

:roll:

[American Patriot]

Can someone describe the video, I'm at work and can't be watching these kinds of things, thanks.

Marines shoot a bunch of idiots in a bus and then pull them out as ammunition inside the bus is cooking off to treat them.

[yellowking]

:| IT was somethin I am happy I saw, but as far as Pwned or any other idiotic comments go's
That was supposed to be a joke about waiting all day to see a video, then it being nothing but the word PWNED. Guess nobody got it...it definitely was not any reference to the contents of the video, as I like most people hadn't seen it yet. Just wanted to clear that up if you misunderstood.

[scm77]

I'd definately say the guys in the bus got pwned. That'll teach them not to **** with Marines.

[Argyll]

Good video,shame so many people here actually get a hardon for seeing killings when they're not in harms way........I did hear ammo cook off,but nothing to signify a vast amount,the Corpsmen were simply outstanding,showing their human side.Good work Marines!
The sniper and spotter on the roof were quick to point out they were "unarmed",however there are people here who get turned on by such video's which is a sad reflection,I'd be interested for an interpretation of what the wounded Iraqi was saying,but this showed another face of war.......well at least some of you kids will have another talking point after the school holidays ;)

[Millen]

some hard images but yeah that's allways in war

[Claymore]

Good video,shame so many people here actually get a hardon for seeing killings when they're not in harms way........

Agree.

[Aerosoul]

63 kbs/sec....? 34 mins left.....

[Aerosoul]

Done! Now I need the codec thing. course since my stepdads a dick and has me set on limited account on our pc i cant install it! Aaaarggghhh!!!

or can I?

[High drag]

Argyll and High drag did you download the Fraps codec? There was a link a few pages ago.

No, I guess I missed it. Any idea what page in this novel?

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download149.html

There we go. First page I looked (luckily) :lol:

Gracias. Got it to work; thanks for the help.

[LordHalbert]

To the orignal creator of the video.

You need to do a proper rip of the DVD, not using this Fraps thing which is really for computer games :P

You'll need these free tools:

DVD Decrypter:
http://www.dvddecrypter.com/index.php?act=download

AC-3 Audio Codec:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/AC-3_ACM_Decompressor.htm

LAME MP3 Audio codec:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/LAME_ACM_Codec.htm

VirtualDub-MPEG2:
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/VirtualDub-MPEG2.htm

Get Div X Encoder:
http://www.divx.com/divx/download/


After you're done installing all that, it should be a piece of cake to convert the DVD video segment to a more suitable AVI format. You can set start and end points in the video for conversion. Setting up the audio settings in VirtualDub-MPEG2 can be a little tricky but it's not too bad once you've done it.

You'll need to set the audio to "Full processing mode":
http://www.deviarts.com/VirtualDub_3.gif

Then go to the Audio->conversion menu. In the audio conversions screen and set it to the following:
http://www.deviarts.com/VirtualDub_1.gif

Then go to the Audio->Compression menu. In the "Select audio compression" screen, select the following:
http://www.deviarts.com/VirtualDub_2.gif

Don't forget to set the video compression to a suitable compression scheme (Like DivX or MPEG4).

Oh, and don't forget to decrypt the DVD if it's encrypted (most are) by using DVD Decrypter (great free utility).

That's my short intro to DVD ripping !!

[Aerosoul]

If I have the video downloaded and had the tools...would i be able to do that myself?

Cuz right now I cant get it to work cuz I need the codec or whatever. but I cant install it cuz my stepdads a dick.

[LordHalbert]

You neee the orignal DVD disk (or a copy of the DVD disk) - I believe that's the orignal source..

[Levan]

damn!!! I need 8 hours to download it. I left the computer turned on at my office, so at the morning I should have this video.
It must be very impressive.

[LordHalbert]

It's really not THAT impressive !!

[Silverdragon]

yea...its not the best video ive seen about iraq :| kind of depressing to see the unnarmed guy get mowed down :( but it gose into my iraq collection so i can look at all these years down the road

[Aerosoul]

Well I want to see it. I don't care if it ain't the best lol.

For those of you that saw it and had it work on your computer...did you have to dl anything? If so, was it just the codec?

[Herrmannek]

Well I want to see it. I don't care if it ain't the best lol.

For those of you that saw it and had it work on your computer...did you have to dl anything? If so, was it just the codec?
try this, iits little hard to use but don't uses system codecs on your own if extract them(are to download on the site) to codec directory of program, oh it has no gui, you just drop movie file onto mplayer.exe
http://mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html

[JTAR7242]

Anyone else notice that this video is likely relatively old?


The Marines are all dressed in 3 color desert cammies. All Marines deployed since R1 OIF2 (Jan/Feb 2004) were supposed to be in desert MARPAT.

All of them are armed with the M16A2. Note that's not out of character for a reserve unit or a rear echelon unit still though.


That said, hardly that notable. Was good to see the Corpsmen in action working hard to patch up men who might possibly have been trying to kill them moments earlier. Shows you why we're better than our enemies.

[n.ignomo]

The point is that any real army would act as they did in the video. A soldier even from Zimbabwe would treat a wounded, because a soldier is a soldier and act as a soldier. I saw before a video about iraki soldiers going in front of the bullets to save one of their mate. Now, insurgents are not regular soldiers !

[Hammy]

Anyone else notice that this video is likely relatively old?


The Marines are all dressed in 3 color desert cammies. All Marines deployed since R1 OIF2 (Jan/Feb 2004) were supposed to be in desert MARPAT.

All of them are armed with the M16A2. Note that's not out of character for a reserve unit or a rear echelon unit still though.


That said, hardly that notable. Was good to see the Corpsmen in action working hard to patch up men who might possibly have been trying to kill them moments earlier. Shows you why we're better than our enemies.

They were unarmed, only that soldier with the pistol got killed becaus he ran for cover since the troops opened fire imediatley after the doors opened. I havent seen one hostile intent in that video from the iraqi side you american troops opening fire at a civilian veachle.

Btw maybe the troops werent marine but the Nationa Guard or the regular Army troops.

[Argyll]

They are wearing Marpat!

[Makaveli]

It's easy to see that this video was taken at the beginning of the war.

[Roger Rabbit]

They are wearing Marpat!
I only saw Marpat helmet covers. I thought the uniforms they were wearing were in the standard 3 colour?

Marpat is the digital camoflage?

[Argyll]

Not all the Marines during the ground offensive were wearing full Marpat,but looking again,yes 3 colour....so dates around 2003,I don't think it matters,it's still a pretty good clip!

[SocScout]

Anyone else notice that this video is likely relatively old?


The Marines are all dressed in 3 color desert cammies. All Marines deployed since R1 OIF2 (Jan/Feb 2004) were supposed to be in desert MARPAT.

All of them are armed with the M16A2. Note that's not out of character for a reserve unit or a rear echelon unit still though.


That said, hardly that notable. Was good to see the Corpsmen in action working hard to patch up men who might possibly have been trying to kill them moments earlier. Shows you why we're better than our enemies.

They were unarmed, only that soldier with the pistol got killed becaus he ran for cover since the troops opened fire imediatley after the doors opened. I havent seen one hostile intent in that video from the iraqi side you american troops opening fire at a civilian veachle.

Btw maybe the troops werent marine but the Nationa Guard or the regular Army troops.

and i'm guessing suicide bombers and random shootings accure in iraqi military vehicles :cantbeli:

everything you said was speculation you weren't there so shut your trap. and i distinctly remember one of the marines saying get away theres rounds cooking off.

[Makaveli]

Exactly, it took a lot of courage and bravery for those Marines and Corpsmen to get those Iraqi soldiers from the burnin bus. Keep in mind there are suicide bombers launching attacks against them and fake surrenders.

[scrybe]

You could hear the rounds cooking off. I'm also guessing that there would have been some kind of checkpoint further away form the base. If something where to run that, it would be safe to assume it has hostile intent.

[drGreen]

good video, they got what they deserved.

[OldRecon]

Looking at the vid I somehow couldn't let be thinking: "All that fuzz for a little Makharov pistol!"
As for shooting at civilians, I don't think this situation looks like being all that clear.
If you look at the face expression of the guy in the doorway in the bus, it doesn't look like he appreciate the prospect of surrendering for quite a while.
You can allmost read the thoughts of that guy. "Surrendering uh?/man this is dicey, surrendering uh? / I don't wanna die man, surrendering? / I don't wanna die / I don't wanna die, surrendering? / uh it's #@uking hot in here / I don't wanna die / I don't wanna die, uh it's #@uking hot in here, don't wanna die / I don't wanna die, don't wanna die / I don't wanna be roasted like a chicken, ok ... I'll come out then :)".
His expression is way too ambigious with regards to "throwing in the towel".
Also surprised the marines didn't manage to knock down that running guy before he basicaly stopped up in that "thelephone boot" or whatever, compared to all that boasting about marines marksmanship.
If you're ever getting cornered without ability to hit back, yet urge to live another day and don't want the enemy to kill you, the way the depicted Iraqis react in this movie is a school example of how not to do it.
What was the pre-history to this even't? A bus driver or passenger panicking in a VCP or something like that?
Also the way that marine throws the pistol around at the end, I would not reccomend. Even if the gun has a double action trigger.

[Levan]

I agree with OldRecon. he is absolutely right

[American Patriot]

If it was sitting next to the fire, whatever was in the chamber already cooked off so it's perfectly safe to throw it.

[OldRecon]

If it was sitting next to the fire, whatever was in the chamber already cooked off so it's perfectly safe to throw it.

You never, ever handle weapons as if asuming they are not loaded!
And that still goes, even if you have pulled back the bolt and checked if the chamber is empty.
Or as is the rule no 1 for weapons handling in the army where I once did my basic + peace keeping service: "There are no excuses for a neglient discharge!"
As for the vid itself, compared to pics from Abu Graib, smiling seals ... etc., I wonder how the hardliners of "the other side" react to this one :roll:.

[el_kab0ng]

Here we go again... armchair General's with authoritative commentary about a 10 minute video... When will the bull**** ever stop?

You have no idea what happened before OR after the video...so how can you say what the Marines did was inappropriate?

Chances are, they had a very good reason for shooting up a bus...like maybe they ran a checkpoint? If you don't want Marines to shoot first and ask questions later, I suggest you take a trip to Iraq and tell all those pesky insurgents to stop blowing themselves up with everyone else around them.

Or better yet, YOU take a tour of duty in Iraq to deal with that crap on a day to day basis and then be asked to show some restraint.. Until then, stop making suppositions.

I for one don't know the reasons.. but if they include stopping suicide attacks from harming innocent people and protecting Iraqi's who really do want freedom, then by all means do what is necessary to see that that happens.

[LordHalbert]

Yea, throwing that pistol was a little stupid.

It could have gone off and killed somebody.

Was it really necessary to pick it up?

Sounds like there was a lot of ammo in that bus.

[Bombtrack]

I missed it and its not on the links anymore.. anyone else know where i can get it?

[FINCaesar]

At least they saved 2 of them after shooting them first :) But that one who ran to cover got pretty much bullets in his ass :(

[Argyll]

El Kabong..........there's actually very few criticising the Marines in this clip,it's the commentry from the snipers on the roof who are going on about them being unarmed,and to cease fire.... ;)

[AUDIEM249]

i agree with Argyll from what i hear all iraqi vehicles are asked to stop at checkpoints and if they don't stop they are engaged if it was my own ass i would have fired on the bus knowing that those inside know what they are doing and are probably doing it for a reason i think the marines handled the situation the best they could as Argyll said when they were identified as unarmed the marines seized fire and moved in to give medical care GREAT JOB MARINES i also thought it was wrong that a lot of people on this site got off on this video "war is glorious to those who have no experience of it" i have none but i take my knowledge of warfare from history and not from hollywood

[Aerosoul]

OK I saw the video. And all that anyone can say that was not there, even after seeing the video is this:

Good job Marines (or whoever they were, I saw different types of uniforms), and they acted as they should have.

If you watched the whole vid, you would have heard the rounds cooking off LONG AFTER the firing had stopped. And yes they were armed.

While they didn't seem to have heavy things such as an RPG, how do you expect troops to react in that situation? The Iraqis do these kinds of things to get this exact response. To try and show the US shoots unarmed civilians. Even though they were armed.

US forces in the vid did exactly what they were supposed to do. US shoots hostiles, the Iraqi insurgents (whatever you want to call them) blow up innocent people cuz they know they will get their asses kicked, JUST LIKE THIS!

[OldRecon]

Here we go again... armchair General's with authoritative commentary about a 10 minute video... When will the bull**** ever stop?

....
Do you have a problem with people being ungratefull or something...?

Well, I'm the first to reckon I'm pretty armchair these days.
Yet unlike some armchair generals I have served once, though it's becoming some years ago now, not only at home but also abroad and thus have received in the least a minimum of military training.

As for me comparing the vid under this thread with the Abu Graib stuff etc., I think you read what I say all in the wrong light.
This vid. have a lot more human dignity about it, in all its unfolding tragedy, than any of the Abu Graib stuff. Don't you also think so "Kaboom"?
Thus I think it would be interesting to see how the hardliners of "the other side", who I presume psyche themselves up with the Abu Graib stuff, would react to the end sequence of this vid where the locals are taken care of by the the Corps medics.
Besides the pistol handling, which I still think was a bit recless, have I critisized the conduct of the Marines in the vid in my previous postings under this thread?
I have rather focused my critique on the appearance of those arabs compared to their urge to survive or haven't I?
And you don't need to be an armchair to deduce that those arabs in this movie nutured a desperate hope of gaining "both ends of it" (suviving without surrendering).
If that guy in the dorway had wanted to to truly surrender he would have pulled himself off that buss with hands up as a signal of "good intentions" rather quickly.
Yet still he sits there in the doorway for quite a lot longer than necessary, with looking through alternative options to surendering showing all over his face. Don't you aggree.
In fact had the marines shot the guy rather than endure his bollocks, cause again his surrender was rather unclear and dragging if you ask me, I would not have said anything in this case as compared to that infamous mosque killing incident during the Falllujah battle discussed here under other threads some time ago.
Up until the last 2 guys finaly came of the bus, the marines in this incident had a lot less control over what those 2 guys were up to, than with the half conscious wounded arab that got shot in a "better safe than sorry" manner in that other infamous incident (which is one big difference between them).
As for the "unarmed" status of those arabs on the bus, while we only see that pistol, it wouldn't surprise me if there would be more stuff left inside the bus. There's as one other mention here quite a bit of crackling from burning ammo.
Thus I think in this case one can say the Marines showed quite a bit of restraint (in my opinion at least).

As for my view on the Iraqi affair in general, yes I do think US should have resisted the temptation to poke in the hornet nest in the first place. Deducing from from my own experience of the region, you would land yourself in an anarchic mess.
At least when you have a government that is unwilling (or unable) to mobilise the resources necessary to achieve total undisputed domination in theatre.

Yet having made the folly of committing yourself there in the first place, I think you'll be stuck there for quite a while.

Have I made myself clear?

[Argyll]

OK I saw the video. And all that anyone can say that was not there, even after seeing the video is this:

Good job Marines (or whoever they were, I saw different types of uniforms), and they acted as they should have.

If you watched the whole vid, you would have heard the rounds cooking off LONG AFTER the firing had stopped. And yes they were armed.

While they didn't seem to have heavy things such as an RPG, how do you expect troops to react in that situation? The Iraqis do these kinds of things to get this exact response. To try and show the US shoots unarmed civilians. Even though they were armed.

US forces in the vid did exactly what they were supposed to do. US shoots hostiles, the Iraqi insurgents (whatever you want to call them) blow up innocent people cuz they know they will get their asses kicked, JUST LIKE THIS!

Only problem silencer is that this video preceed's the insurgency ;) Here's a hint for you...............LISTEN TO THE GUYS ON THE ROOF,it was they who controlled the situation......this video is great,it show's the Marines who were in country at that time,performing their duties,and showing their humane side....,rounds cooking off.....yep if all 3 had AK's that's 90 rounds minimum,did you stop to count them by the way?.........you should also have been familiar that nearly every single male in Iraq over the age of 14 carried an AK,that in itself doesn't make you an insurgent ,Terrorist or a soldier.......it was an Iraqi thing.......this video is almost a year old,and during the ground offensive,things were so much different than they are now........and I'd be a little less blase about the actions too,you are aware that the Marines didn't have it all their own way in and around Nasiriyah,I wonder how you'd feel if in contrast this was an Iraqi ambush on a US vehicle.............it's all very well "craving" for seeing the good guys "getsome",but occasionaly the badguys pulled off their own rewards.

Maybe the next time you step into harms way when the rounds are coming back up range and they're coming in your direction you might not get such a hardon for seeing war over the internet.

You know the blood thirsty kids here,why don't you all go down to the Morgue after an RTA or a murder in your neighbourhood,just so's you all get to know the smell of death up close and personal,just tell the local LEO's that you have an overwhelming desire to see something being killed,or the results of a shooting........see what kind of reaction you get from them?

[Johnny_H]

^^^ really well said man --Respect--

[Aerosoul]

Argyll I really respect you on this forum but I don't appreciate the assumption and generalization that I get hard-ons from seeing combat on the internet. And as for seeing death firsthand know that I am signing up this July.

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

I downloaded this video and when I tryed to watch it I got an error and all I got was sound. It sounds like a really good video and it makes me wanna see it even more. Does antone here have any clue as to why it did that? Thanks alot for anyones help.

[Johnny_H]

try using Winamp man that is what i have to use to watch it.

[Digital Marine]

Anyone figured out what they were saying in Arabic yet?

[Aerosoul]

I downloaded this video and when I tryed to watch it I got an error and all I got was sound. It sounds like a really good video and it makes me wanna see it even more. Does antone here have any clue as to why it did that? Thanks alot for anyones help.

You need the DivX Codec 1.9d. Link is on first page I believe.

[AUDIEM249]

does anyone know any good books or programs to learn arabic i would like to learn before i join the army suggestions would be great :)

[Argyll]

Argyll I really respect you on this forum but I don't appreciate the assumption and generalization that I get hard-ons from seeing combat on the internet. And as for seeing death firsthand know that I am signing up this July.

No?........well you seem to be quite "fired up" about this video,and in your previous comments anyone would have thought you have pulled the trigger in a combat situation...... :roll:

I downloaded DivX to see it,I've seen better,but it is not bad,is it worth seeing........I guess so if this sort of thing "turns you on"

[el_kab0ng]

does anyone know any good books or programs to learn arabic i would like to learn before i join the army suggestions would be great :)

It's a hard language to learn... and you won't have it mastered by the time you join up. The best suggestion I have is request the language classes once you've joined so you can get proper instruction on Uncle Sam's dime.

[AUDIEM249]

good advice thank you el_kab0ng

[OldRecon]

....,rounds cooking off.....yep if all 3 had AK's that's 90 rounds minimum,did you stop to count them by the way?....

I stopped counting at 20 something.
Rough estimate about 60 rounds or thereoff (several double coock offs so not that easy to count without some kind of sound graph tool)

[Umm-Qasr]

I found here a shorter and much smaller version of this vid (2.75 MB only ;)) :

http://www.dpostill.karoo.net/60R3/fallujah.wmv

[Makaveli]

Thanks Umm Qasr.