Photo request: South Korean bunkers

[Turhapuro]

Does anyone got any pictures/information of South Korean defence line?

It must be full of bunkers because they have had 50 years to cave in. woot

[pfclee]

Unfortuanately bunkers are military-protected sites that cannot be photographed.

[SimpleSimon]

Not to mention they are cold, wet and dark.

Fire up your pot bellied stoves!

[Sloppy Joe2]

what is the situation over there i know that the news was building up the north korean situation but i dont know what i can and cant trust with the media does anyone know

[eggroll]

you know what, all will be better off if that information was NOT disseminated. I really do not see the need for anyone outside of those are directly responsible for, work in those, and run their daily business in and out of these bunkers, to know what these looks like or ANY other info persuant to these.

so I would suggest backing off your requests, and direct your attention to Korean history if you want to know MORE about what is happening NOW.

EGG

[Sloppy Joe2]

whoa eggroll calm down i am not askin for classified information all i am asking for is info on the situation outside of what the us media can tell me nothing more

[eggroll]

And why not do yourself a favor and do some research on the matter if you are so intent on finding out more about what has led to the situation today. If you do so then you may come out ahead of the 'media' otherwise quit asking , and find out for yourself what the DMZ is like.

maybe you'll find out things like a no fly zone over a certain part of a city of a certain country in a certain part of the world. or perhaps where the worlds most dangerous golf course is located.... Tell me what Operation Paul Bunyan was in regards to.

in short do the research yourself instead of asking folks to do it for you.

hell I'll give you a start -- www.google.com

[Tate]

Well, here's the deal: Yes, you won't get a lot of info on the bunkers. I worked inside a South Korean bunker for a few years. Don't anyone cry about opsec, because I was in intel, I know all about opsec. I would never reveal something that is not public information. I can speak of the existance of the bunker because although it was on a South korean base, a lot of civilians had access to a hiking trail that passed right by it. So a lot of civilians (ROK/German/US) knew of the bunker. The existance of it is not classified, but you won't get the exact location from me. The specs of it are of course. All I am going to say about it is that it is very, very far from being old, small, dark, cold, and wet. The US base I worked on is located inside a South Korean base, like most of the US bases in South Korea. This is common knowledge to civilians, I know because we used to bring civilians on the base all the time, and a lot of civilians worked on the base. Also, a lot of foreign civilians (US/German, etc.) had thier kids in the US elementary school on the base. My unit lived, ate, drank, and worked out on the US part of the base, but we worked on the Korean part of the base.

[ronin2172]

Damn its a shame some people r so stuck on themselves that they forget the whole point of having a forum....the point of this place is to share information, and to learn stuff about military affairs which u might not know, not to show how big of an asshole you can be.

Research is not just looking up facts from sources but also includes asking questions of people who might know information about the given topic, or at least point the person in the right direction, and how does asking questions equate to getting others to do your research for you? I'm glad you are not a teacher (or at least i hope u r not).

Eggroll get off your high horse, if u r not going to answer the guy's question then shut up. It really isn't necessary to be nasty to folks....

[Tate]

I hope you weren't refering to me? I am the only one who "shared" any information about South Korean bunkers on this thread. I wanted to get across the point that we can talk about the bunkers (limited info though), and, that they are a lot more modern than most would think. Also, they are not simply for fallout/hunkering down, they are fully functional 24/7 working environments. People work in them all day and night, there is even coffee machines.

[Sloppy Joe2]

thank you tate and i agree ronin ohh and eggroll here is a webiste that you can start www.stickinmyass.com

[Tate]

I guess there is a couple more things I can say about the bunkers: Some are huge, and it's not like some vietnam tunnel system to get in those ones. It is more like a huge steel door on the side of a mountain, you just walk right in (with your ID of course).

As far as the situation over there, it is unique. It was like we were at war, with nobody shooting. Both the North and the South are totally prepared and acting like they are at war, but going about thier day to day affairs, but both ready to strike at a moments notice.

[Sloppy Joe2]

thank you tate thats what i was looking for

[Tate]

NP. The cities in South Korea are surrounded by mountains. Thats because the whole country is a bunch of mountains. So there is ridge lines that surround the cities. Most of them you can hike on, and there is Korean Marines that live up on the ridge lines and patrol them. It is cool, you will be hiking and come across Korean Marines with guns. They are very serious over there when it comes to the military, they are constantly on alert. Give me a few minutes and I will post a couple pics.

[ronin2172]

sorry tate i wasn't referring to you, actually u r posting the type of info one would expect from a forum such as this, and i am looking foward to any pics u can post.

[Tate]

Yes, I read it again, and realized that, sorry if I sounded pissed. I agree with you, people should feel free to ask questions and expect to get some info, not ridiculed for asking.

[Tate]

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/7739/chinhae8ny.jpg
http://img96.exs.cx/img96/6677/chinhae10qj.jpg
http://img96.exs.cx/img96/5204/chinhae20nd.jpg

[Kenshin]

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/7739/chinhae8ny.jpg
http://img96.exs.cx/img96/6677/chinhae10qj.jpg
http://img96.exs.cx/img96/5204/chinhae20nd.jpg

Nice Bunkers!

[Tate]

Sorry, can't post any bunker pics, I just thought I would share a few Korea pics since we were on the subject of the situation in Korea. Like I said, it was real strange, we acted like we were at war, but as you can see, we went about our daily business like hiking and sightseeing.

[ZeroPositive]

I have been all over south east asia and would like to see Korea as I used to have a lot of Korean friends back in Hong Kong.

Cheers for the pics I know how sensitive it can be.

[SimpleSimon]

I spent a year in Korea 91-92. I loved it. Nice people. I'd love to go back to visit.

Bunkers I spent time in were ****ty.

[Tate]

SimpleSimon wrote:

I spent a year in Korea 91-92. I loved it. Nice people. I'd love to go back to visit...

I agree, one of the coolest things about Korea was the people, they were very nice.

[Turhapuro]

I read somewhere that if you visit Norh Korea, they may show you border and DMZ and South Korean bunkers there other side of border (for propaganda purposes to show how militaristic South Korea is :D ). Anyone got pics from there?

And to eggroll about classified information: you don't have to post any military secrets here so don't panic. I am sure that DPRK has spies with access to much bigger secrets than any photograph can be at this forum. p-)

[Tate]

This is probably what you're referring to. From this observation post,
http://www.crowcroft.net/jpg/dprk3%20120.jpg
The North will show you this:
http://www.crowcroft.net/jpg/dprk3%20119.jpg
Yes, North Korean trips are all about propoganda. When people visit North Korea, the North Korean government take them on a "tour". Visitors are not allowed to go anywhere but where the guided tour takes them, and visitors can't go anywhere without thier government guides.

More from the DMZ:
http://www.crowcroft.net/jpg/dprk3%20112.jpg
North vs. South 24/7 staring contest:
http://www.crowcroft.net/jpg/dprk3%20109.jpg
http://www.crowcroft.net/jpg/dprk3%20110.jpg

[Turhapuro]

It would be very simple for those borderguards to defect.

[Tate]

Great info on getting in/around/out of North Korea:
http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dplaces/northkor/index.htm

Best site I've seen on the net regarding travel & pictures of North Korea:
http://www.stat.ualberta.ca/people/schmu/nk.html

[eggroll]

yeah well whatever ...

audi - it shows how you can relegate to calling people names on a discussion board - really mature? :roll:

Anyhow

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maybe you'll find out things like a no fly zone over a certain part of a city of a certain country in a certain part of the world. or perhaps where the worlds most dangerous golf course is located.... Tell me what Operation Paul Bunyan (http://members.terracom.net/~vfwpost/opn-PB.html) was in regards to.
perhaps something like this would be interesting
http://www.imjinscout.com/images/OPB_Panmunjom1.jpg

lotsa good smack here - oh BTW this is a GOOD reference if you want to take the time to read (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/paul_bunyan.htm)


Some other links - perhaps far more insidious issues than bunkers along the DMZ - when the balloon goes up do you really think that it'll be a repeat of the 1950 assault?

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDQ/is_1998_July_6/ai_50189344
http://www.stormingmedia.us/13/1302/A130213.html

Bedcheck Charlies and SILCs (http://www.specwarnet.com/asia/NKSF.htm) BTW one of these were on display at the Seoul National War Museum in Aug 2000 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/semi_submarine-s.jpg
submersible infiltration landing craft......... what you dont hear about are the running gunbattles in the late 90s along the east coast of Korea between ROKs and NK infiltrators.


The point I was getting across is research this - and ronin - Hey Smile and have a Coke because you obviously are having a BADDDDD DAY

EGG SENDS[/url]

[eggroll]

For the most part this is but a mere footnote in history, obviously forgotten in many history programs in schools today. I wonder if it is known much by the younger folks in Korea?
http://members.terracom.net/~vfwpost/ax-murders-1.jpg[/img]

[eggroll]

BTW here is a snippet image of the terrain proximal to the JSA
http://members.terracom.net/~vfwpost/axemurdertree.jpg

oh yeah, see that stump in the middle, thats where the axe murders took place in the pictures from the previous post.

Nedless to say, the 1976 Axe murders was only one of MANY incidents on, near or over the DMZ in the last 30 years or so. One of the last casualties being CWO2 David Hilemon of 17th Avn. Brigade. killed 12/17/95 when his OH58 inadvertently crossed over the DMZ and was shot down.

After all this, if and when the balloon goes up in Korea - I do hope it doesnt as I have relation in Seoul and in Pusan, it will be a short duration 'war' but an exceptionally costly war, with the losing side ceasing to exist as a nation.

Do I think a war may happen? Yes, Will it follow along the lines of the June 1950 invasion? no

Will there be a reunification? yes eventually. Will it be immediate? most empathically NO. there reason is, while North and South Koreans are ethinically the same, Socially, Ethically, Politically, MONETARILY you couldn't have a more diametrically opposed peoples. I could go on, but I wont, there are several texts available through your local library which will better explain the who the Korean people are.

[bigmatty]

does the inside of a bar on Texas St in Pussan count as a bunker.....I may have pics of those somewhere..... :roll:

[ronin2172]

you need that coke wayy more than i do judging by your snotty remarks...

[eggroll]

:roll:

[eggroll]

does the inside of a bar on Texas St in Pussan count as a bunker.....I may have pis of those somewhere..... :roll:

Bunkers? Theres the BATMAN outside of OSAN AB p-)

[Sloppy Joe2]

eggroll i don't know what was up before but thanks for the info i did see a very interesting show today on the history channel on the surprising large amount of engagements i didn't get to watch it all but it talked about how troops on the demilitarized zone called it the second vietnam and for a couple of years all us troops received combat pay while based near the border if anyone else saw it please share :D

[eggroll]

had you looked up one level from the OPB link

you would have found this

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/korea-crisis.htm

this will hopefully answer most of your ??S from the War Channel show and give you some further insight into the whole Korean issue.