Are Nazis the only group to hate that is PC?

[M1A2U2]

I recently realized something interesting. Anyone could walk down a street wearing a hammer and a sickle on their shirt. This is a symbol that represents the death of possibly up to 100 million people. Yet when someone wears a swastika on their shirt they would be seen as horrible people. As far as im concerned both should be seen as repulsive but for some reason theyre not. It works with other groups too. Hating al quaeda is seen as racist, hating communists is seen as mcarthyist, and even mention of the evils of imperial japanese is seen as racist. Have we lost touch with reality?

[American Patriot]

Duh

[Haiw]

People wear communist signs to associate with the communist system, not with the communist regime. Though the communists regimes were usually some of the worst in history, nothing short of genocide on their own people, there is still a lot to be said for the communist system.
How many people have you seen wearing swastikas because they supported their autobahns and volkswagens?

[KalleBalleSvartSk@lle]

I you were you would be kicked in your face before you could explain yourself.
But still there are some countries where SS-vets are allowed to have parades.
(I support autobahns, königstigers, leopards, volkswagens etc)

[walford]

It's PC to virulently hate -- and advocate censorship of -- anyone who does not support the Leftist agenda. So that includes:
- Evangelical Christians
- Republicans
- conservatives
- libertarians [except those who favor legalizing dope/unlimited immigration]
- traditional Catholics
- those who hold that the US is a sovereign nation that should not have its foreign policy subordinate to a supra-national authority
- those who hold that it is not possible to contain, appease or otherwise live in peace with dictators
- those who are against killing the innocent
- those who are for killing the guilty
- those who do not think that all cultures [and their practices] are equally valid

It is also OK to hate -- and racially ridicule -- certain blacks if they are conservative/libertarian/Republican, because they are heretics. [Thus we had Clarence Thomas disinvited to deliver a commencement address while convicted cop-killer Mumia-Abu-Jamal (http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3411) was invited to deliver a speech via tape at a college graduation ceremony.]

To be continued...

[Opening Batsman]

Hating Al Qaeda is not racist, but hating Muslims is. Hating what the Japanese did in the past is not racist, but hating them now is.

[BigBaribal]

To make it simple, it's PC to hate anything that is white, christian or more largely occidental. There's a word for that: ethnomasochism!

[Haiw]

Hating Al Qaeda is not racist, but hating Muslims is. Hating what the Japanese did in the past is not racist, but hating them now is.
Seems fairly logical. Since when was hating Al-Qaeda racist?!

[username]

PC and racist by definition or by specific social application? Take walfords comment for example:


It's PC to virulently hate -- and advocate censorship of -- anyone who does not support the Leftist agenda. So that includes:
- Evangelical Christians

Now being a Evengelical Christian and going to a church service and making a derogatory comment about the religion would not be considered politially correct. If the same comment were to be made at a weekly Al Qaeda meeting it may be politically correct.

Then you have to consider how the comment is made. Is the argument presented with hypothetical and practical examples, with logical reason and a systematic breakdown of the logic flow? Now your getting into semantics, interpretation which is a fiddly field.

If you guys and girls want to talk about right and wrong you need to define the environment and not talk about it in absolute terms.

[username]

Hating Al Qaeda is not racist, but hating Muslims is. Hating what the Japanese did in the past is not racist, but hating them now is.

hating the japanese back then for their actions or hating them back then for the sake of hating them? Hating specific japanese people for their actions back then or hating the japanese in general for the actions of a few japanese back then?

[Knutsen]

recently realized something interesting. Anyone could walk down a street wearing a hammer and a sickle on their shirt. This is a symbol that represents the death of possibly up to 100 million people. Yet when someone wears a swastika on their shirt they would be seen as horrible people. As far as im concerned both should be seen as repulsive but for some reason theyre not

They're different. When talking about nazism there's only one reference , the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, i mean, nazism is one and only one. A certain party that took place in a certain country. And we all know what that ideology stood for.Communism itself is not bad, it's fantasy, uthopic, you name it... , you can like it or not but is not inherently bad. Bad and evil is the use SOME have done of communism, among them the soviet regime . I agree with you with the hammer and sickle, that symbol represents evil, but not the ideology itself.

[Opening Batsman]

Hating Al Qaeda is not racist, but hating Muslims is. Hating what the Japanese did in the past is not racist, but hating them now is.

hating the japanese back then for their actions or hating them back then for the sake of hating them? Hating specific japanese people for their actions back then or hating the japanese in general for the actions of a few japanese back then?

Quite obviously hating them back then for what they did to our soldiers that they captured. And of course, the fact that they wanted to invade us. But those times are past now.

[budgie]

I think it is a myth of the Right that hating Terrorists is not 'PC' - in fact the constant ranting about 'PC' is just another windmill for the Right to tilt at because it so badly needs enemies at home and abroad. Political correctness is simply not that big a force.

Terrorists are bad, muslims are not. If you want to equate all muslims with terror then you are racists or at the very least exercising poor judgement. Hating terrorists is considered acceptable by most people.

The Japanese imperial flag is banned in many Asian countries to this day. Like the Dixie flag however (which offends many people whose ancestors were oppressed) it is still a symbol of nostalgia for nationalists in Japan and ires progressive Japanese. Sh*t happens.

Unlike the Swastika the Hammer and Sickle is not synonymous with ethnic cleansing. While many atrocities werre committed under Stalin and other Soviet or even Chinese leaders (the symbol is still on their flag) it was done with the excuse of 'unity' or 'progress' and not 'because they are "untermensch"'.

Bust back to the OP is this another thinly veiled attempt at defending the swastika or do you really care about [perceived] double standards?

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It's PC to virulently hate -- and advocate censorship of -- anyone who does not support the Leftist agenda. So that includes:
- Evangelical Christians
- Republicans
- conservatives
- libertarians [except those who favor legalizing dope/unlimited immigration]
- traditional Catholics
- those who hold that the US is a sovereign nation that should not have its foreign policy subordinate to a supra-national authority
- those who hold that it is not possible to contain, appease or otherwise live in peace with dictators
- those who are against killing the innocent
- those who are for killing the guilty
- those who do not think that all cultures [and their practices] are equally valid

It is also OK to hate -- and racially ridicule -- certain blacks if they are conservative/libertarian/Republican, because they are heretics. [Thus we had Clarence Thomas disinvited to deliver a commencement address while convicted cop-killer Mumia-Abu-Jamal (http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3411) was invited to deliver a speech via tape at a college graduation ceremony.]

To be continued...

diddums,

aren't you the victim

I think this depends very much on the culture/country you live in, as well as fashion. PC is the wrong word to use for this little list. It's is fashionable to dislike/hate republicans in a lot of places, but that doesn't mean it's PC.

[Marmot1]

PC sux it's why I am not politically corect... I simply do not like others to decide what is good and what is wrong for me...

[walford]

I think it is a myth of the Right that hating Terrorists is not 'PC' Oh yes it is. Bring it up too much and it will be noticed that they tend to be of a certain other 'equally valid' culture. They we find ourselves accused of profiling.
in fact the constant ranting about 'PC' is just another windmill for the Right to tilt at because it so badly needs enemies at home and abroad. Political correctness is simply not that big a force.Oh, yes it is also very PC to slam anyone who even brings the concept of PC up. Just as it is with biased media, merely to broach the subject that Western culture is dominated by an arrogant elite that will not suffer an opposing point of view without name-calling, distortion and calls for censorship is to make oneself a target. I know, I wrote for a media watchdog for over a year.

diddums, aren't you the victim I think this depends very much on the culture/country you live in, as well as fashion. PC is the wrong word to use for this little list. It's is fashionable to dislike/hate republicans in a lot of places, but that doesn't mean it's PC.It is fashionable indeed to openly preach hatred for Republicans. For example Our Betters in the entertainment industry are fond of using vulgar language to gratuitously attack the president on a regular basis. That is the very essence of PC.

[Goldfinger]

Anyone could walk down a street wearing a hammer and a sickle on their shirt. This is a symbol that represents the death of possibly up to 100 million people. Yet when someone wears a swastika on their shirt they would be seen as horrible people.

The modern definition of a fascist or a racist is someone winning an argument with a leftist.

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diddums, aren't you the victim I think this depends very much on the culture/country you live in, as well as fashion. PC is the wrong word to use for this little list. It's is fashionable to dislike/hate republicans in a lot of places, but that doesn't mean it's PC.It is fashionable indeed to openly preach hatred for Republicans. For example Our Betters in the entertainment industry are fond of using vulgar language to gratuitously attack the president on a regular basis. That is the very essence of PC.

it's always the same with incumbents look how they jumped on Clinton, loads of the democratic-biased enterainment industry took the piss out of him for that.

[Laworkerbee]

this thread is making my head hurt

MAKE IT STOP :cantbeli:

[the_janitor]

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[Wodan]

It's PC to virulently hate -- and advocate censorship of -- anyone who does not support the Leftist agenda. So that includes:
- Evangelical Christians
- Republicans
- conservatives
- libertarians [except those who favor legalizing dope/unlimited immigration]
- traditional Catholics
- those who hold that the US is a sovereign nation that should not have its foreign policy subordinate to a supra-national authority
- those who hold that it is not possible to contain, appease or otherwise live in peace with dictators
- those who are against killing the innocent
- those who are for killing the guilty
- those who do not think that all cultures [and their practices] are equally valid

It is also OK to hate -- and racially ridicule -- certain blacks if they are conservative/libertarian/Republican, because they are heretics. [Thus we had Clarence Thomas disinvited to deliver a commencement address while convicted cop-killer Mumia-Abu-Jamal (http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=3411) was invited to deliver a speech via tape at a college graduation ceremony.]

To be continued...

hey man, PC is a sign of totalitarism, in my opinion, also the Nazis in germany had "Political Correctness", it just had other forms...

... also the communists had it...


I think PC sucks, the more "Political Correctnesses" we have, the less we are free in the expression of our opinion, and the less our country's are flexible if its needed on making decisions!