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[AFSOC]
10-19-2003, 03:42 PM
Whats your fav?

James
10-19-2003, 04:00 PM
What unit was at Vimy Ridge in 1917?

[AFSOC]
10-19-2003, 07:13 PM
All i know is that 4 Canadian ARMY CORP's defeated 47 GERMAN ARMY CORPs there.....

EvanL
10-19-2003, 08:57 PM
Highlanders, cause theyre the toughest sons of bitches ever. And its only right to support such a unit because it defines most canadians heritage.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
10-20-2003, 03:25 AM
Canadian Airborne Regiment all the way :D

Double Tap
10-20-2003, 04:00 PM
these are the official Battle orders for Canadian attack on Vimy Ridge
http://www.cbc.ca/news/vimy/gfx/orders_p1.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/news/vimy/gfx/orders_p2.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/news/vimy/gfx/orders_p3.jpg
Battle orders for 31st (Alberta) battalion
http://www.cbc.ca/news/vimy/gfx/orders_alta.jpg

Schuster
10-20-2003, 07:30 PM
All Four Canadian Divisions were at vimy iirc.. soo.. RCR, PPCLI, and R22er for sure, There where many highlander units. Like the Seaforth Highlanders woot . there were MANY MANY More aswell. i'm going to guess somewhere around maybe 40 actual named regiments along with 20 or so Unamed Expeditionary battalions.. Geez i could be way off..

None the less, The Canadian Airborne Regiment takes the cake, the commando's that were part of the regiment are some of the best soldiers canada has ever seen. its just to bad what happened to them.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
10-21-2003, 12:50 AM
Many people forget about a lil known squad called the frontiersmen. They mainly are a civillian/military (you get a rank but your still a civilian) unit that does search and rescue, civil defence, and light peacekeeping work. Not the glamorous of jobs but hey someone has to do it. They have units all over canada (including vancouver island). They use british dpm camo and are trained by military personel and police (including weapons. first aid, rappelling , physical fitness ect)
Quit the unit considering joining myself. Average age of the members is around 40 so they are looking for alot of young canadians to fill the void.

Skaman
10-21-2003, 12:56 AM
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[AFSOC]
10-21-2003, 11:09 AM
Don't worry the AIRBORNE will be back...

Schuster
10-21-2003, 04:40 PM
Oh i hope so.
on slightly different note, i heard All 3PPCLI soldiers are gonna be airborne qualified, maybe it could be the beginnings.

ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
10-22-2003, 09:14 PM
yea that would be something different. If my memory is any good didnt they get disbanded because of all the hazing rituals and drinking back in '93? p-)

James
10-23-2003, 12:53 AM
Well whatever units were at Vimy Ridge and are still around get my vote (I am an AMerican, BTW). I visited Vimy Ridge in 1996 and in 1998. It is amazing to see what those fellows accomplished.

Hell, I don't know a whole lot about the Canadian Forces, but I know that they served alongside the U.S. in Somalia and Afghanistan, and that they were serving in the Balkans while our leadership had us watching genocide and doing nothing. I won't pick a favorite. God bless them all, and good luck.

[AFSOC]
10-23-2003, 02:31 AM
James, you wanna learn more about Canadian Forces....study WWI, WWII, Korea and Peacekeeping times during the 50's and 60's then you'll understand why many of us Canadians are frustrated to see what our Military is today.

Schuster
10-23-2003, 10:23 PM
RMRANG!!!!!
Seriously.. For the last 20 min i have been trying to figure out what regiment you were in.. I dont know why, but the Rockey Mountain Rangers never even came to mind untill i found this post :cantbeli:
I was thinking "Ok, hes a Seaforth.. or a Westie."

Seoulstriker
10-23-2003, 10:59 PM
I had to put 'other' because i had no idea what most of those units were. :(

redhawk_six
10-24-2003, 03:33 AM
Either the British Columbia Regt. or the Black Watch.

Andyman
10-24-2003, 07:36 PM
I'm joining the QUEENS OWN thats a paratroopers regiment. I am looking forward to earning my jump wings. Thats quite far down the road though as I started BMQ last week.

Dirk Sparrow
10-24-2003, 08:49 PM
I'm still in school and planning on joining the Westies as a part-time reservist soon. Can't wait.

Well yeah, my choice would have to be them.

[AFSOC]
10-24-2003, 11:19 PM
I plan on going to the RoyaL CAnadian Regiment after RMC. I really hope though when i finish school the AIRBORNE will be back. I have my mind set on being the best....the most ELITE you kno what i mean?

Schuster
10-25-2003, 02:21 AM
I'm still in school and planning on joining the Westies as a part-time reservist soon. Can't wait.

Well yeah, my choice would have to be them.

Good **** dude, I'm looking to join the westies too.. Wierd man, i thought i was the only ****ing guy in the tri cities area who gave a flying **** about the army.

<Edit>yeah and this polling has gone Pretty much the way i thought it would, THe Airbornes Getting Votes Cause Canadians Know them, PPCLI is getting votes cause other nationalities know them from the stan, Highlanders are getting votes cause to kill them you must seperate their head from their body, and the other gets votes cause some people are in other regiments in canada or are joining. RCR and the Vandoos get nothing cause there is very little **** on them. and quite frankly, PPCLI kicks the **** outa them. </edit>

RealUltimatePower
10-26-2003, 05:00 PM
Governor General's Foot Guards!! Up the Guards!

has to be cause I'm in it.

Oh fyi the RCR, PPCLI, and R22eR in WW1 wouldn't have been in battle as units under that name. All Canadian units sent overseas then were reformed over there. Like my unit sent troops to the first world war but they weren't there as guards. They were either part of the 2nd, 47th or I think 76th Infantry battalions.

simple jumper
10-26-2003, 07:43 PM
Governore General's Foot Guards or RCR, the GGFG are the oldest and most senior reserve regt. dating back from 1872, they were at the North WEst rebellion, South Africa, WW1 (vimy ridge)(split up into the 2nd CEF (Canadain Expeditionary Force) and the 47th BN (i think)), then during WW2 they were armoured and went all over North West Europe and fought hard against the 12th SS Hitlerjugend. It's all I can think of for the regt. for now...not bad for a 16 year old eh? ;)

Schuster
10-26-2003, 08:02 PM
Governor General's Foot Guards!! Up the Guards!

has to be cause I'm in it.

Oh fyi the RCR, PPCLI, and R22eR in WW1 wouldn't have been in battle as units under that name. All Canadian units sent overseas then were reformed over there. Like my unit sent troops to the first world war but they weren't there as guards. They were either part of the 2nd, 47th or I think 76th Infantry battalions.

Watching the CBC Special on Vimy, the listed the Battalions. All were numbered except for PPCLI and RCR. Maybe cause they were the Active Force Militia at the Time. but really i shouldnt trust CBC too much.

DANJANOU
01-22-2004, 10:53 PM
Actually I find this whole thread slightly ridiculous. What are we voting for here a military version of Canadian Idol?

What criteria are we using here?

As far as I'm concerned at least for those who are actually serving in a Regiment at the moment or have done so in the past there is only one correct answer.

When I was instructing on leadership courses, during morning inspections I'd ask some of the poor troop with heals locked together in front of me, the same question "What is the best regiment in the army?"

The only acceptable answer was "Mine Warrant."

I didn't care what unit he was from. One wanker tried to kiss my ass by checking my cap badge and yelling out the name of my regiment in hopes of currying favour. He was RTU'd as a training failure by days end. If you don't understand the concept of the regimental system and the role it plays in developing soldiers then you sure as hell don't wear hooks and be responsible for leading others if and when you have to earn your pay.



Oh fyi the RCR, PPCLI, and R22eR in WW1 wouldn't have been in battle as units under that name. All Canadian units sent overseas then were reformed over there. Like my unit sent troops to the first world war but they weren't there as guards. They were either part of the 2nd, 47th or I think 76th Infantry battalions.

While I admire your enthusiasm there Wolfe, check your facts before opening your mouth. Remember as a wiseman once said "when in doubt it is better to keep quiet and possible be thought a fool, then open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Yes most of the old militia regiments were reorganised in numbered battalions in the CEF in WWI. One of those by the way was the 22nd Bn which for various reasons including it's war record became one of the three regular infantry regiments at wars end and the demobilazation at wars end. What you though they just came up with the number 22?

The other unit was the PPCLI which was privately raised and actually first saw service with the Brits in 1915 before being transferred to the Canmadian corps in 1916.

The third was of course the RCR, the only regular infantry regiment in the Canadian Army prior to the war. Neither the PPCLI or RCR ever had a numerical designation.

As to the math challenged individuals. Four Canadian Divisions ( and 1 attached British brigade) smashed through two German divisons dug in on Vimy Ridge.

Yeoman
01-23-2004, 01:22 PM
well I am a run chicken run member, so I'm a little biased then.
the airborne was pretty cool when they were around, apparently (JUST A RUMOUR) that 3 PPCLI *might* be turned into the airborne, ticks me off that 3 is closed right now, oh well. I'm going to transfer to hopefully 3 RCR when I'm done my BIQ for the regs, and try to get into jump company.
GO ROYAL CANADIAN REGIMENT!
Greg

pAt
01-23-2004, 03:05 PM
Oh i hope so.
on slightly different note, i heard All 3PPCLI soldiers are gonna be airborne qualified, maybe it could be the beginnings.


lol mmm dude most of them are airborne qualifyd already...there know as LIGHT infantry also meaning paratroopers

[AFSOC]
01-23-2004, 11:45 PM
most 3PPCLI are Airborne qualified because of most of them SOLJA's were from the CAR. Just the PPCLI was there parent regiment....

Yard Ape
01-24-2004, 01:43 AM
]Royal Hamilton Regiment
Maybe you mean the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry (RHLI)?

MapleLeafInfantry
01-24-2004, 01:47 AM
Reg Force: 8 Wing Trenton, damn that yukon lodge is PLUSH!
PRes: 2 IR RC, cept they got rid of the caubeen!

-mli

Yard Ape
01-24-2004, 01:47 AM
]most 3PPCLI are Airborne qualified because of most of them SOLJA's were from the CAR. Just the PPCLI was there parent regiment....I am going to suggest this is wrong. 3 PPCLI is a battalion and 2 Commando was only the size of a large company. The years that have gone by since mean that the Ptes & Cpls would have joined after the Airborne was disband (and therefore never served with it).

[AFSOC]
01-24-2004, 10:12 AM
Have you ever watched....the story about the Canadian Airborne regiment?? on your channel CBC NEWSWORLD?

They had a lot of guys from the PPCLI, RCR and Dragoons. If you've ever seen Canadians in Afghanistan a lot of the troops there were once in the Airborne regiment.

pAt
01-24-2004, 10:51 AM
i think the ttle of this should be 'Your favorite infantry regiment'

DANJANOU
01-24-2004, 11:32 AM
No wrong. Most 3 PPCLI are not airborne and the PPCLI was not the parent regiment of the Canadian Airborne Regiment.

Light infantry means that light as in not mechanised. While an airborne or para battalion is most likely light, the reverse in not always true.

Odds are that there are several soldiers in all the companies (rifle, cbt sp and HQ) of 3PPCLI that have completed the basic para course and wear their jump wings. Only one company in Para qualified as is the case with the other two Lt bns in the regular ingfantry.

The CAR had three Infantry Commandos ( basically large companies) each drew it's pers from one of the three regialr infantry regiments.
1 Cdo from the R22Re
2 Cdo from the PPCLI
3 Cdo from the RCR
The support weapons, pathfinders, HQ and admin etc came from all 3 regiments and of course the assorted Combat Servie Support trades.

Bartok5
01-24-2004, 11:58 AM
Fellas,

Danjanou is correct. I just left 3 PPCLI after a 3-year tour with the unit. The only "hard para" sub-unit is A Company, where all members are basic para qualified, wear the Maroon beret, and earn the "silver/white" maple leaf on their dress uniform wings after participating in their first jump with the company. A Coy is heavily populated with former members of 2 Commando, who gravitated towards the jump company within their parent regiment (PPCLI) when the Canadian Airborne Regiment was disbanded back in the early 1990s.

3 PPCLI is a very "young" unit these days, having seen a large turn-over of soldiers after the 2002 combat mission in Afghanistan. I was quite amazed to see the numbers of brand-new 18/19 year olds running around the unit (full of appropriate piss and vinegar) when I returned for an awards ceremony last month. Although A Coy (Para) is predominantly led by officers and Senior NCOs with former service in the CAR, the junior NCOs and soldiers have no such direct linkage. Happily, the "critical" mass of experience leadership is such that A Coy is imbued with the very same Airborne spirit that 2 Commando possessed.

A Coy aside, approximately 75% of 3 PPCLI is para qualified. It is the type of unit which attracts "hard-chargers" and believers in "light fighting" from across 1 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group. Those members of the unit not serving in designated para positions don't sport the Maroon beret, but you can bet that when there is a jump happening, at least 70% of the unit turns out to take the plunge.

The A Coy (Para) troops take pride in their specific "soldier delivery" role. Members of B Coy (my former command) are equally keen on their specialized Mountain Operations role. The C Coy types specialize in Amphibious and Long-Range Patrol operations. Combat Support Coy (another former command of mine) has senior soldiers drawn from across the battalion to specialize in reconnaissance, direct-fire support, and communications roles. Everyone in the unit does the Airmobile/Air Assault thing, and there is much cross-pollination of skills througout the unit.

I would assume that 3 RCR and 3 R22eR are precisely the same. Any Canadian infantryman who aspires to "hard soldiering" and specialized light-fighter skills naturally gravitates towards one of the 3 light infantry battalions. They aren't the CAR, but they're very, very good at what they do across a broad spectrum of infantry skills.

"Travel light, freeze at night".....

anonymous individual
01-24-2004, 05:08 PM
Why do Canadians love their paratroopers so much?

DANJANOU
01-24-2004, 06:13 PM
Why do Canadians love their paratroopers so much?

Who told you that?

Our Government doesn't (They disbanded the CAR)

Our media doesn't (Selective editing by CBC on Somalia home movies)

I don't. I respect them, but don't love them in that special way. :lol:
Then again I respect most people who actually put down their play stations and put on a uniform until I'm proven different about them.

Bartok I don't know towards the end there I was getting old and tired and this former Light Infantryman might have liked to ride to "work" in a M-113, Grizzly, or LAVIII instead of my issued LPCs. Ok maybe not the Grizzly.
:D

Yeoman
01-24-2004, 06:21 PM
Bartok5; did you ever meet a corporal dewitering? he got into jump company a coupe months back.
aren't the CO and the RSM of 3 PPCLI both x-member for JTF-2? that's what everyone keeps telling me
I know that we love the paratroopers in my unit because we're all the guys that actually get stuff done, and are willing to carry all the heavier equipment (cuz we're hardcore or something :lol: )
Greg

Yard Ape
01-25-2004, 03:08 AM
]Have you ever watched....the story about the Canadian Airborne regiment?? on your channel CBC NEWSWORLD?
CBC has missinformed you. Take it from someone who has actually seen these units.

Bartok5
01-25-2004, 01:52 PM
Danjanou,

I hear you loud and clear regarding the physical toll associated with light infantry service. I did 2 tours in a mech battalion (2 PPCLI) before being posted to 3 PPCLI in 1999. Although we did some hard dismounted training during my time in 2nd Bn (including a lot of time on snowshoes with toboggans), the physical side of life in 3 PPCLI was a bit of an eye-opener for a (then) 35 year-old major. And it only gets harder the older you get. I don't care how "hard" someone is - that type of physical exertion will eventually catch up with you! :lol:

Yeoman,

I will not confirm or deny that what you have heard is true. There is an strong element of both PERSEC and OPSEC related to JTF-2. Notwithstanding the increased exposure resulting from their decision to establish an official web-site as part of recruitment efforts, it still remains a subject that members of the CF do not openly discuss. I will say that in general terms, officers and Sr NCOs serving at DHTC are required to return to a line battalion for sub-unit command and CSM experience. It is considered a good "rounding" (and a bit of a rest) for the returnee. Furthermore, the unit that they are posted to stands to benefit from the unique training and experience that the returnees bring to the table. Given a choice (which most are), the infantry types will arrange to serve their "pennance" with the 3rd (eg. light) Battalion of their parent regiment. You can interpret that information however you choose. These people are not hard to pick out of the crowd, as most will wear the Special Operations Assaulter badge on their dress uniform pocket.

Resevoir Hogs
01-25-2004, 08:47 PM
I chose other cause I like the devils brigade. It was a joint US-Canada thing but since the US was there it's my fav. woot

DANJANOU
01-25-2004, 08:57 PM
Bartok
Hey I was only in my mid thirties when I packed it in, knees shot, back shot, (ok a para accident helped with that one). Mind I didn't pack it in for medical reasons and I could still keep up with the kiddies on a run or ruck march. Sometimes usually ended up carrying some 18 yr old or at least his kit. It was getting harder and harder. You know you should be hunting for a desk job when you pack the extra large tube of absorbine junior in your ruck.

How come none of us ever thought of knee pads and all that back then. I mean we all played hockey as a kid. Naaah if someone had shown up wearing those, the guys would have teased him as a wimp and gone on to slowly ruin our selves.

Yeoman remember "the first rule of fight club is....."

Yeoman
01-26-2004, 04:23 PM
I was not aware that those rules even applied to the x members as well. I mean I've got a couple guys in my unit that are x members and they openly talk about it when in the unit.
my apologise for that then.
I'll remember the first rule of fight club then, my bad.
Greg

Spearin
01-26-2004, 05:38 PM
Highlanders! I wish there was still a Reg Force Highland Regiment :(

And as Yard Ape pointed out, it should be Royal Hamilton Light Infantry. But, who would vote for the Rileys anyways ;)

Yard Ape
01-26-2004, 10:00 PM
]HighlandersWhich Highland regiment does this refer to?

What was the selection criteria to make the vote list? One seems to be that the regiment must be Infantry. Still active does not seem to be a requirment.

Jeff White
01-27-2004, 03:26 PM
Has to be the CAR.............and I make no apologies for it seeing as I'm a former Brit Para :D

DANJANOU
01-28-2004, 04:46 PM
Yard Ape, Spearin, you're too young guys , the last Regular Highland Regiment in the CF was the Blackwatch and both reg bns were cut by Trudeau in 1972 when he emasculated the infantry (or tried to).

Parzival
01-29-2004, 08:56 PM
Who cares?

Yard Ape
01-30-2004, 01:27 AM
DANJANOU,
I know of the Regiments that Trudeau cut from the Reg force. This poll does not specify Reg force regiments. It does refer to Royal Hamilton Regiment and Highlanders (neither of which exist in either Reg or Res).

RHR. . . could AFSOC have meant Royal Highland Regiment? . . . as in The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada? That would make a vote for either of the "non-existant" regiments equivalent to a vote for the Black Watch.

4CDO PARA
07-24-2004, 07:16 AM
Canadian Airborne Regiment, no doubt about it. There has been no comparison in the Post WWII CF ( respectful mention is due to 1 Can Para and FSSF, who were the forerunners of Canadian military elite ).

Who are you?
AIRBORNE!
How far?
ALL THE WAY!

Ex Coelis,
AIRBORNE!

OldRecon
07-24-2004, 07:47 AM
The Royal 22nd Regiment = "Van doos" (vinx deux)?

Seems to have made a fearsome reputation for itself as one of the best units on the UN side during the Korean war. How come?

sacuro
08-18-2011, 12:56 AM
Royal 22nd regiment all the way ,

Hitler said ''It's the only real battle I've been afraid of losing, those 45 000 french soldiers are scaring my whole army.'' pis un dses conseillers avait dit : ''Sir, there are only 15 000 French-Canadians'' Hitler answered '' If I consider that 3 french soldiers are worth each french canadian soldier, then I'm still right''

boone
08-18-2011, 01:03 AM
Wow. 7 year necro for a first post.
I like your moves, new guy.

mathew2sellers
08-19-2011, 01:21 AM
My favorite is Royal Canadian Regiment. I know that the RCR Association is a component of The RCR Regimental Family consisting of serving and former CF members and their families who have served with the Regiment.


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Anthony91
08-19-2011, 02:04 AM
One hell of a necropost, but oh well.

I'd either have to go with the Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians) as my ancestor fought in the regiment (WWII/Korea) or one of the constituent 39 CBG regiments in British Columbia. Then again, the 1st Special Service Force trumps all. :)