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DeltaWhisky58
08-17-2010, 03:49 PM
Hollis, you don't know how much I envy you. I used to be able to shoot .22/12g in my back yard (approx 1 acre) around 20 years ago, but a change from older country-born neighbours to younger left-wing townies put pay to that.

orange
08-17-2010, 04:17 PM
Found a seller in the US that ships TruGlo to Sweden. I'm a happy puppy right now.

Pics will be up when they arrive and the mounting is done.

Hollis
08-17-2010, 05:07 PM
Hollis, you don't know how much I envy you. I used to be able to shoot .22/12g in my back yard (approx 1 acre) around 20 years ago, but a change from older country-born neighbours to younger left-wing townies put pay to that.


What about Mr. Hole.......... He has much nicer select fire and they are legal. DW, trends like that are happening here too. Once was common practice is getting more and more restrictive. Fortunately for me, most of my neighbors shoot and there is no room for any new construction, yet!!

Hollis
08-17-2010, 05:08 PM
Found a seller in the US that ships TruGlo to Sweden. I'm a happy puppy right now.

Pics will be up when they arrive and the mounting is done.


Those are cool sights, I have done a few, on other people's pistols. They also make them for shotguns and rifles. I really like them, especially on the front sight.

Dirites
08-17-2010, 05:25 PM
nice sig, 226?

gaijinsamurai
08-17-2010, 05:55 PM
We actually didn't do a lot of shooting, but yes is was fun. I think we did more talking than anything. I was pretty cool for me to meet a member in person and gaijin is a pretty cool dude...for an old guy like me!


Totally my fault we couldn't do as much shooting as we had planned. I was a dumbarse and forgot to bring the 9mm, .40S&W, and .45 ACP ammo!
Luckily, I just happened to have had a full magazine for the Uzi, plus two 1911A1 mags with rounds in them.

I was just pretending to be a cool dude. I might give that initial impression, but before too long, people start seeing me as the total geek I really am! ;)

gaijinsamurai
08-17-2010, 05:57 PM
I take it you are refering to the yellow markings.I think it's some kind of tactical markings, it's not on the serial numbers. I saw the same on a pic of an Israeli one. Maybe one of the Israelis onboard can help.

We're going to start seeing yellow markings on all the airsoft Galils.

He219
08-17-2010, 06:02 PM
Nice pix of your shoot, meinteil & gaijin!
:)


Something like that. Basically, kind of IFF thing for plain clothes security people.
I remember posting some like that ...
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4830/269233876044db7aa166b.jpg

A U.S. presidential security officer checks out his rifle in front of the King David hotel before President Bush's arrival in Jerusalem, Wednesday, Jan. 9, 2008.http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5981/30777094ag8.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/Todays%20Pix/more/70c70e13.jpg

Prime Minister-elect Ariel Sharon, center, surrounded by bodyguards, arrives at the Knesset, Israel's parliament, Wednesday, March 7 2001. Sharon is slated Wednesday to present his proposed cabinet to parliament and once it is approved he will be sworn in as prime minister. (AP Photo/Brian Hendler) ISRAEL OUThttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/Todays%20Pix/more/536b8f6a.jpg

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, surrounded by his bodyguards, inspects temporary housing being built for settlers due to be evacuated from the Gaza ***** under his disengagement plan Tuesday July 5, 2005 at the Nitzanim construction site in southern Israel. Forty-five thousands Israeli soldiers and police will evacuate the Gaza *****, and there will be no tolerance for violence from Jewish extremists or Palestinian militants during the operation, top Israeli officials said. (AP Photo/ David Silverman/pool)

rhino
08-17-2010, 10:10 PM
I'm not sure that going from .30-06 to .270 will be the answer as .270 is really at the red line with 150gr bullets and thus doesn't give you the versatility with big game that .30-06 does. Rather than spending the money on re-barreling, have you considered porting your barrel - Magna-port, Boss or similar, or installing Kick-stop in your stock.

I got to find a gunsmith and have a serious talk with him about options. if I remember correctly winchester makes .270 bullets that have a really high BC and are designed for big game, alas for that Im keeping my Enfield :)
(just checked the Win Ammo product guide;XP3, 130gr, BC .436, 150gr, BC .503 both recomended for game type 2 and 3, 3 being large heavy game like elk, moose, brown bear)

thanks DW


http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

thanks loco, something I was looking for

Hollis
08-17-2010, 10:24 PM
I got to find a gunsmith and have a serious talk with him about options. if I remember correctly winchester makes .270 bullets that have a really high BC and are designed for big game, alas for that Im keeping my Enfield :)
(just checked the Win Ammo product guide;XP3, 130gr, BC .436, 150gr, BC .503 both recomended for game type 2 and 3, 3 being large heavy game like elk, moose, brown bear)

thanks DW



thanks loco, something I was looking for


Think about 7mm, like 280 Remingtion express. Or as DW says, recoil comp.

rhino
08-17-2010, 10:33 PM
Think about 7mm, like 280 Remingtion express. Or as DW says, recoil comp.

from what I understand .270 is a neck down 30-06, so there is no need to change bolt just the barrel, plus ammo cost are considered here as well

Hollis
08-18-2010, 11:20 PM
from what I understand .270 is a neck down 30-06, so there is no need to change bolt just the barrel, plus ammo cost are considered here as well


Yes it is, there are a lot of rounds out there that is based or have the same head as the 30-06 case. You can also do a 7mm-06. Lots of choices. If you reload it makes it easier to decide on the less popular rounds on the commercial market. I like 270, it is a excellent round for the contiguous 48 states.


Also if you reload you can load reduce loads and have a wider selection of bullets to soften the recoil.

CPLHUNTER
08-19-2010, 11:44 AM
love those HK's very nice

wiking
08-19-2010, 11:52 AM
the leather for that USP looked pretty nice as well

CPLHUNTER
08-19-2010, 12:11 PM
damn you put us Americans to shame...what are the gun laws like in your country?

wehrwolf
08-19-2010, 01:45 PM
Lovely PPsh43

gaijinsamurai
08-19-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm still a fan of the old-school leather too.

Bacon
08-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Finally complete.

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Roy Batty
08-19-2010, 02:20 PM
Nice man. What's the optic?

wiking
08-19-2010, 02:21 PM
donut, are there enough gunsmiths down there, or would there be room for one more once i'm done with my education (on hold for a year now it looks, i wasn't accepted :( that's what happens when they only take in 7-8 ppl a year

Bacon
08-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Nice man. What's the optic?

It's a Nightforce 1-4x24

gaijinsamurai
08-19-2010, 02:31 PM
Very nice, Bacon!

Roy Batty
08-19-2010, 02:35 PM
It's a Nightforce 1-4x24

Nice......Pricey.

DeltaWhisky58
08-19-2010, 02:41 PM
I think Mr Hole is a man of impeccable taste - I don't think there are many guys with toy-boxes so well filled as his. I am deply envious, but as long as I live in Britistan I'm ****ed. That aside, I've still got some nice boomsticks of my own, but there are a few of The Hole's I'd give my eye teeth to own, especially his HK416, Remington 700AICS, G3, L1A1 and a few others.

Hollis
08-19-2010, 03:22 PM
I think Mr Hole is a man of impeccable taste - I don't think there are many guys with toy-boxes so well filled as his. I am deply envious, but as long as I live in Britistan I'm ****ed. That aside, I've still got some nice boomsticks of my own, but there are a few of The Hole's I'd give my eye teeth to own, especially his HK416, Remington 700AICS, G3, L1A1 and a few others.


If there is a population surge in Mr. Holes A/O we know why.

DeltaWhisky58
08-19-2010, 03:26 PM
Ah, but you lot don't know where he lives p-)

RSone
08-19-2010, 03:29 PM
Ah, but you lot don't know where he lives p-)

Luxembourg is not that big. He'll be found eventually. One only needs to listen for the sound of automatic firearms.

orange
08-19-2010, 03:32 PM
DW, wouldn't the Remington 700 be up for grabs for you in the UK?

marko16
08-19-2010, 03:51 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img801/1937/75293029.jpg

gaijinsamurai
08-19-2010, 03:52 PM
Nice G3. I prefer the slim-lines of the old school H&Ks.

DeltaWhisky58
08-19-2010, 04:00 PM
Luxembourg is not that big. He'll be found eventually. One only needs to listen for the sound of automatic firearms.

No hope - I'll have been and gone long before you find him - I know where he lives http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/HighlandSniper58/Emoticons/tongue-out.gif


DW, wouldn't the Remington 700 be up for grabs for you in the UK?

Yes, as long as can justify the need - the rifle that Hole has would be perfectly justifiable for me as a hunting weapon. The only problem I might have would be asking for authorisation for a second .308 rifle.

DeltaWhisky58
08-19-2010, 04:06 PM
http://a.imageshack.us/img801/1937/75293029.jpg

What's the origin of your G3, it looks like a bit of a hybrid. Where was it made, where did it see service? Is it a genuine Portuguese G3, or is it really a PTR 91 assembled in the US?

Corrupt
08-19-2010, 04:15 PM
Yes, as long as can justify the need - the rifle that Hole has would be perfectly justifiable for me as a hunting weapon. The only problem I might have would be asking for authorisation for a second .308 rifle.

I saw a rather beaYOUtiful Mauser in a gunshop in harrogate the other day. Spurred me to start working on getting my license and get a rifle.

gaijinsamurai
08-19-2010, 04:16 PM
I like this guy's comparison of the H&K vs. clones:

The conclusions are first for those who do not wish to read the entire review. Most POF parts are of identical design and quality of manufacture to the German. Some have corrosion resistant finishes that are superior in function to the German, however cosmetically less appealing. On some products, the fine finish work, such as painting in the positions on the trigger packs, is inferior to the German; on others, such as plastic furniture, it is superior. German parts typically are much higher priced (sometimes 200% higher) and of limited availability. In their first two years of business, POF-USA maintained a good inventory of parts. Since the last half of 2005, however, inventory has become disappointingly erratic.
If you are a collector and do not shoot your guns, but rather rather have them displayed on an alter where you take off all your clothes, light candles and incense, and just LOOK at them, perhaps the German manufacture will be more satisfying. If you shoot your guns, the high quality and reasonable pricing of the POF products will allow you to buy more and shoot more than when purchasing the German counterpart.

Link:

http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/noteshk/hkpof/pagehkpof.shtml

DeltaWhisky58
08-19-2010, 04:18 PM
If you live in N Yorkshire, it's one of the better areas to get a Firearm Certificate. You'll either have to be a member of a rifle club, or prove access to deer stalking to get a license. If you need any help/advice drop me PM.

Death.
08-19-2010, 04:20 PM
Modified the bolt release on my 10/22 into an auto-bolt release. Definitely worth the 30 minutes of time.

marko16
08-19-2010, 04:31 PM
The receiver is from Portugal with parts from the 70's (FMP & HK). Despite the pictogram it is semi only. The trigger push pin area only appears to function as we have to have a metal part that protrudes into the trigger pack so that the full auto parts have to be removed. These came in pieces that needed to be welded by a gunsmith that has a builders license type 07 I beleive. That way the creation and transfer of the serial number keeps it legal and the correct number of US parts used.

I have slim line furniture in green, but the colors are hard to match, so I went with the older wood look. I have mostly old wood guns so it fits in.
It takes a while to build up a good shoulder to shoot it. Only tough guys carry and fire these beasts all day long.

orange
08-19-2010, 04:34 PM
Modified the bolt release on my 10/22 into an auto-bolt release. Definitely worth the 30 minutes of time.
Didn't know you could do that. And neither does my buddy that has a 10/22. He's been *****in about the bolt for ages now and will now owe me a beer for telling him that you can modify it. Thanks, bro'!

DeltaWhisky58
08-19-2010, 04:36 PM
The receiver is from Portugal with parts from the 70's (FMP & HK). Despite the pictogram it is semi only. The trigger push pin area only appears to function as we have to have a metal part that protrudes into the trigger pack so that the full auto parts have to be removed. These came in pieces that needed to be welded by a gunsmith that has a builders license type 07 I beleive. That way the creation and transfer of the serial number keeps it legal and the correct number of US parts used.

I have slim line furniture in green, but the colors are hard to match, so I went with the older wood look. I have mostly old wood guns so it fits in.
It takes a while to build up a good shoulder to shoot it. Only tough guys carry and fire these beasts all day long.

Thanks for the explanation.

Death.
08-19-2010, 04:48 PM
Didn't know you could do that. And neither does my buddy that has a 10/22. He's been *****in about the bolt for ages now and will now owe me a beer for telling him that you can modify it. Thanks, bro'!

No problem, it's pretty easy to do, just takes some dremeling, works like a charm


http://pk-gunsmithing.com/The_Ruger_1022_auto_bolt_stop.pdf

orange
08-19-2010, 05:00 PM
No problem, it's pretty easy to do, just takes some dremeling, works like a charm


http://pk-gunsmithing.com/The_Ruger_1022_auto_bolt_stop.pdf
Cheers! He's gonna love that.

hood
08-19-2010, 09:13 PM
Shot a friend's S&W 686 4" .357 magnum today. Having shot the .44 magnum equivalent revolver a few weeks ago, I think I like this round better. It still gives a big flash and is a big bang, but it's not quite so unmanageable and is a ton of fun to shoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_T9KoxYsOs

Anthony91
08-19-2010, 11:23 PM
Looks pretty nice. Thanks for the video Hood!

Clear_blues
08-19-2010, 11:59 PM
Modified the bolt release on my 10/22 into an auto-bolt release. Definitely worth the 30 minutes of time.
I saw there's a conversion kit out there for the 10/22 that you remove the wood stock and slap the parts onto it to make it resemble an AR.

Death.
08-20-2010, 12:31 AM
There is, but that's pretty much the definition of retarded. Haha. I'm going for something like this
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt103/kevinv6/RU1022VLEH.jpg

theholeinthedonut
08-20-2010, 01:36 AM
donut, are there enough gunsmiths down there, or would there be room for one more once i'm done with my education (on hold for a year now it looks, i wasn't accepted :( that's what happens when they only take in 7-8 ppl a year

There are five of them.....one closed down in the town of Clervaux two years ago and no one took over his place. So if you have a big chunk of money to get things started you might succeed, but rents are very high over here. Furthermore you should not think about it if you do not speak french and german.

DeltaWhisky58
08-20-2010, 02:26 AM
See here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/7953723/High-speed-photographs-by-Lex-Augusteijn-capture-the-moment-a-bullet-hits-objects.html) - amazing photography by Cloggie photographer Lex Augusteijn of bullets in flight.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/HighlandSniper58/Album%20No2/Album%20No3/Album%20No4/ba3e99c2.jpg

D-Mitch
08-20-2010, 04:36 AM
MP-5 submachinegun with gold plated parts ;-)
Firearm collection of War Museum in Athens.

http://a.imageshack.us/img85/1999/dsc02104e.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img708/6097/dsc02102qj.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img153/8389/dsc02103r.jpg

And a pistol with gold greek letters A and Π of Andreas Papandreou (Prime Minister of Greece http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Papandreou)

http://a.imageshack.us/img838/2594/dsc02105wk.jpg

DeltaWhisky58
08-20-2010, 07:25 AM
The above pix are very slow to load.

Roy Batty
08-20-2010, 07:37 AM
I saw there's a conversion kit out there for the 10/22 that you remove the wood stock and slap the parts onto it to make it resemble an AR.

The SR 22 is basicly a 10/22 in sheeps clothing. http://davesguns.info/images/ruger%20sr-22.jpg

Also there is the Archangle kit available. http://www.google.ca/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1R2DACA_en-GBCA391&biw=1403&bih=711&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=10%2F22archangel&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

An M249 stock on a 10/22. http://img79.imageshack.us/i/mg42groundtripodadapterpz2.jpg/

or an Mg42. http://ee.ar15.com/itemview.aspx?iid=23808


Krinkovs are popular as well. http://gunbucket.com/gunblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/main_image.jpg

KoTeMoRe
08-20-2010, 07:37 AM
VP70? Who'd do that to an H&K...it's like pimping a Volvo.

DeltaWhisky58
08-20-2010, 07:55 AM
No, it's one of the H&K P7 series, probably a P7M8 (doesn't look wide enough to be a P7M13). The photo is so bad it's hard to tell. I thought this thread was for personal stuff and not museum items.

Definitely not a VP70 which was a polymer-framed pistol.

KoTeMoRe
08-20-2010, 11:01 AM
It doesn't look like a VP at all. I guess my head needs to be pulled out of my ...!

Victor1
08-20-2010, 11:48 AM
http://a.imageshack.us/img801/1937/75293029.jpg

You should fashion yourself a wooden grip, that OD green polymer grip contrasts too much with the stock and the handguard.

gaijinsamurai
08-20-2010, 12:06 PM
^

I've always liked the Mini Uzi.

Marko16: I like your G3 the way it is. Don't change a thing. It is quite common for battle rifles of that era to have a mixture of wood and synthetic furniture.

DeltaWhisky58
08-20-2010, 12:10 PM
It is quite common for battle rifles of that era to have a mixture of wood and synthetic furniture.

My issue L1A1 initially had a wooden stock, but synthetic forend and pistol grip ... ... ... and then one day I handed over my weapon card and it had acquired a synthetic stock as well.

gaijinsamurai
08-20-2010, 12:18 PM
I had an opportunity to buy a wooden stocked L1A1 in really nice condition (upper receiver was not original, as complete and original L1A1s are rare and expensive in the US) for $900 about nine months ago. I was very tempted, but restrained myself out of a sense of financial responsibility.

The Stg58/G1 style FAL I'm working on has a wood buttstock, plastic grip, and aluminum handguards.

theholeinthedonut
08-20-2010, 12:50 PM
I had an opportunity to buy a wooden stocked L1A1 in really nice condition (upper receiver was not original, as complete and original L1A1s are rare and expensive in the US) for $900 about nine months ago. I was very tempted, but restrained myself out of a sense of financial responsibility.

The Stg58/G1 style FAL I'm working on has a wood buttstock, plastic grip, and aluminum handguards.

How much original parts are there on the Stgw.58's you get on your side of the pond......I'm waiting to find one in mint condition to add to the collection. It's my favourite FAL......

gaijinsamurai
08-20-2010, 01:01 PM
A few years ago, original Austrian Stg-58 parts were plentiful. DSA, based out of Chicago, bought the entire inventory of parts and tooling from Steyr when the Austrian Army transitioned to the AUG, and used those as the basis (minus upper receivers) for their rifles. Those early DSAs are considered to be on a par with original FNs, in terms of quality. Steyr's Stg-58 barrels have the reputation for being the most accurate FAL barrels. Unfortunately, those parts have all but dried up, but can still be found in inventories of parts dealers and builders who bought as many spares as possible, and are now selling them.

If you check the "marketplace" on FalFiles forum, you'll probably find Stg.58 parts for sale. A year or so ago, it was a seller's market, as everyone was trying to get what they could before the Democrats banned everything. Now, with the shytty economy, glut of parts and rifles on the market, and more and more people desperate for cash, prices have gotten lower.

gaijinsamurai
08-20-2010, 01:02 PM
Good sources for parts:


http://www.falfiles.com/forums/index.php

http://gunthings.com/

theholeinthedonut
08-20-2010, 01:16 PM
Thanks Gaijinsamurai.

Yarrick2
08-20-2010, 01:36 PM
finally got some decent(ish) pics of my P14.45
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gaijinsamurai
08-20-2010, 04:09 PM
Thanks Gaijinsamurai.

No problem! :)

Bro Jangles
08-20-2010, 06:12 PM
No, it's one of the H&K P7 series, probably a P7M8 (doesn't look wide enough to be a P7M13). The photo is so bad it's hard to tell. I thought this thread was for personal stuff and not museum items.

Definitely not a VP70 which was a polymer-framed pistol.
i dont think a bit of gun **** will ruin this thread.

LineDoggie
08-20-2010, 06:55 PM
I saw there's a conversion kit out there for the 10/22 that you remove the wood stock and slap the parts onto it to make it resemble an AR.
Just did a Old School conversion.


Ruger 10/22 with M1 Carbine Vismod.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0011.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/linedoggie/IMG_0010.jpg

Stocks from Brownells with Handguard. I had previously installed Tech Mod Sights. Now to get a sling and oiler, maybe find one of those Cobray Stock pouches from the late 70's for 2 extra Mags

NeedsABetterName
08-20-2010, 07:55 PM
LD, was considering sticking that stock on my own 10-22. Just ordered the Tech Sights the other day. How much fitting, if any, was required for the stock?

LineDoggie
08-20-2010, 08:34 PM
LD, was considering sticking that stock on my own 10-22. Just ordered the Tech Sights the other day. How much fitting, if any, was required for the stock?Stock dropped right in. Only thing you have to do is watch the safety, try and nudge it centrally and the receiver slips right in. Handguard has a screw on the left to hold it at the receiver. Handles like the Carbine now. Took all of 5 minutes to unpack and rig.
I like Tech Sights, so much better than the folding leaf on the barrel.

I have a M1903 Straightgrip Stock (Type S with Fingergrooves) coming for My '03
.

USMC29
08-20-2010, 09:09 PM
Thats a thing of beauty Linedoggie. Both of them ;)

punchinout
08-21-2010, 11:19 AM
Sweet stock Line!!! I just saw those in the monthly Brownells new products email. I think i'll be gettin one they look great.

Roy Batty
08-21-2010, 01:51 PM
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/a1a85309.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/2090ffd0.jpg

About to start *****ping the stock to see if I can make the Chinese mystery wood look a little better. Not a fan of the paint.

DeltaWhisky58
08-21-2010, 02:04 PM
Hey Roy - how about a plain desert sand colour, or coyote brown, something like that?

Roy Batty
08-21-2010, 02:07 PM
Maybe. I suspect I'll replace the stock one of these days. Just messing around with what I have for now...lol

LineDoggie
08-21-2010, 02:16 PM
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/a1a85309.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/2090ffd0.jpg

About to start *****ping the stock to see if I can make the Chinese mystery wood look a little better. Not a fan of the paint.When I got My SKS back in 87 I hated the wood so refinished it myself.

Sealed the woodgrain using a sealant product (cant remember the name) used OOOO Steel Wool then Dark Walnut stained it, Steel wool again.

Used a combo Red Walnut Stain/Varnish and steel wooled it between coats (5)



Looked beauty after that, like something Weatherby made

Anthony91
08-21-2010, 10:14 PM
Stopped by my local hardware store to see what they've got in terms of hunting rifles and shotguns. Saw a couple things I liked, including hopefully a Cx4 which they had a couple posters of.

Namely, a six-shot black Mossberg 12 gauge for $250 bucks. Quite a bargain, but besides it's vague name the shopkeeper gave it, I don't know too much about it. Didn't remind me too much of the 500-series, but looks a bit like the "Maverick". Considering it's price, i'm worried that it's not necessarily a good purchase, anyone here on MP.net have any experience with it?

LineDoggie
08-21-2010, 10:31 PM
Mavericks have crossbolt safety vs. Mossberg tang safety, but basically the same.

Mavericks are made in Tx, Mossbergs in Ct.

Anthony91
08-21-2010, 10:34 PM
As long as the safety works as it should, I don't care what type it is. Thanks for the input Linedoggie!

Heazy
08-21-2010, 10:51 PM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8546/img0170o.jpg
my new Glock 21. I love it., "No frills" kind of handgun and also fun to shoot.

Bro Jangles
08-21-2010, 11:21 PM
anyone seen these guys before? saw them in shotgun news, and i want a nice AKM stock set, and they are 922r compliant.

http://www.timbersmithusa.com/

HK in AK
08-21-2010, 11:29 PM
134467134466

Headed to the range tomorrow..........FMP SLG95 (G3) with a sear pack in it.

gaijinsamurai
08-21-2010, 11:29 PM
^Those look nice, BJ. Seem to be good quality and authentic looking.

Mein Teil
08-21-2010, 11:32 PM
134467134466

Headed to the range tomorrow..........FMP SLG95 (G3) with a sear pack in it.

It's a looker, how do you like the rail? Heavy?

HK in AK
08-22-2010, 12:05 AM
The entire rifle is heavy with or without the forearm. I do not notice a big different from the factory wide forearm. When you add a forearm grip it sure helps with stability.

rhino
08-22-2010, 12:24 AM
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/2090ffd0.jpg


Libian cammo pattern comes to mind for some reason

do it Roy, that thing is hidious

HK in AK
08-22-2010, 01:47 AM
Hole,

How does that work in your country with building full autos? Is there any special permitting required?

theholeinthedonut
08-22-2010, 01:48 AM
Hole,

How does that work in your country with building full autos? Is there any special permitting required?

You have to register them on your Collectors Permit, the same as the other FA.

Virus
08-22-2010, 08:10 AM
hey BJ, also check out http://ironwooddesigns.com/IWDsite/IWDproducts.html if you are looking for a nice AKM type stock set, this guy does a really good job as well. But the ones on that site look nice too.

Chulo
08-22-2010, 09:05 AM
Stopped by my local hardware store to see what they've got in terms of hunting rifles and shotguns. Saw a couple things I liked, including hopefully a Cx4 which they had a couple posters of.

Namely, a six-shot black Mossberg 12 gauge for $250 bucks. Quite a bargain, but besides it's vague name the shopkeeper gave it, I don't know too much about it. Didn't remind me too much of the 500-series, but looks a bit like the "Maverick". Considering it's price, i'm worried that it's not necessarily a good purchase, anyone here on MP.net have any experience with it?
The Maverick 88.. based on the Mossbergs, and its good, but you can feel the quality difference. I thought Mavericks were made in Mexico.

N e way.. Maverick and Mossberg parts are interchangeable.

Squeezee
08-22-2010, 02:41 PM
Just curious, has anyone here heard anything more about all those Garands and Carbines that South Korea was going to sell back to us? Also, did they plan to sell back any kind of accessories (Magazines, slings, cleaning kits, etc)? I heard that Obama wasn't going to let it happen but I haven't seen any updates. Thanks.

LineDoggie
08-22-2010, 03:01 PM
Just curious, has anyone here heard anything more about all those Garands and Carbines that South Korea was going to sell back to us? Also, did they plan to sell back any kind of accessories (Magazines, slings, cleaning kits, etc)? I heard that Obama wasn't going to let it happen but I haven't seen any updates. Thanks.
Obama doesnt want them imported


Terrorists or Gangs could get hold of them


Hope and Change

gaijinsamurai
08-22-2010, 03:07 PM
There was a thread last week about that.

Squeezee
08-22-2010, 03:12 PM
There was a thread last week about that.

Sorry, must have missed it when I skimmed the forum.


Obama doesnt want them imported


Terrorists or Gangs could get hold of them


Hope and Change

:(. I was looking forward to a $140 M1 Carbine.

gaijinsamurai
08-22-2010, 03:18 PM
Here's the thread:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?184326-United-States-opposes-ROK-s-reexporting-M1-Garand-and-Carbine

No way in hell that Obama's getting my vote in 2012.

DeltaWhisky58
08-22-2010, 03:38 PM
No way in hell that Obama's getting my vote in 2012.

I hope the rest of America's voters will act likewise. If only I could utilise my Grandmother's US citizenship to help get rid.

Squeezee
08-22-2010, 03:44 PM
Thanks Gaijin. I just realized that in 2012 I'll be 17, just one year short of being able to give my vote to someone else :(. I was really looking forward to getting an M1 Carbine.

LineDoggie
08-22-2010, 07:00 PM
Thanks Gaijin. I just realized that in 2012 I'll be 17, just one year short of being able to give my vote to someone else :(. I was really looking forward to getting an M1 Carbine.
As soon as your 18 try the Civilian Marksmanship Program


http://odcmp.com/

Join an affiliated Org and qualify, you can get Carbines and Garands

Roy Batty
08-22-2010, 07:09 PM
My 597 VTR should be here tomorrow.......:)

Laworkerbee
08-22-2010, 10:00 PM
Interesting little rifle you're picking up there.
I wonder how much it weighs? Remingtons site doesn't say.

Roy Batty
08-22-2010, 10:03 PM
About 5 1/2 lbs LAWB. Not real light but she looks like she could be fun.

Bro Jangles
08-22-2010, 10:06 PM
As soon as your 18 try the Civilian Marksmanship Program


http://odcmp.com/

Join an affiliated Org and qualify, you can get Carbines and Garandsthis, and for the love of god dont make the mistake i made, DONT BUY UNIVERSAL!!!!

oswald
08-22-2010, 10:09 PM
this, and for the love of god dont make the mistake i made, DONT BUY UNIVERSAL!!!!
I've heard this before. What is Universal? Aftermarket?

oswald
08-22-2010, 10:17 PM
Holy crap.

Bro Jangles
08-22-2010, 10:19 PM
Holy crap.
traded it straight up for a chinese SKS

gaijinsamurai
08-22-2010, 11:00 PM
Good trade, BJ. I had a semi-auto Sten with cheesy fake supressor I traded for a Universal. The thing blew up in my my face during a WWII reenactment. Luckily, I wasn't seriously hurt. The positive thing about the trade was that I got a shytload of magazines, which came in handy when I bought a real M1 carbine.

HK in AK
08-22-2010, 11:41 PM
134467134466

Headed to the range tomorrow..........FMP SLG95 (G3) with a sear pack in it.

Well had fun at the range.......100 percent function and was hitting the sewer plate at 300m everytime, with only iron sights.

LineDoggie
08-22-2010, 11:42 PM
Dude I still have WWII Carbine mags in the original Wax wrap. Bought a 100 15 rders in 1985 for the total of $50US from a company called SU-Press-on. it had a text ad in Shotgun news

Death.
08-22-2010, 11:50 PM
Dude I still have WWII Carbine mags in the original Wax wrap. Bought a 100 15 rders in 1985 for the total of $50US from a company called SU-Press-on. it had a text ad in Shotgun news


100 mags? Oh mawh guawd. You should sell me one or five of those...haha

Bro Jangles
08-22-2010, 11:53 PM
i bought like 2 mags for 30 bucks not 2 years ago

Death.
08-22-2010, 11:54 PM
The wax-paper wrapped mags are $15 each now.

NZPumpkin
08-23-2010, 12:01 AM
M1 mags are about $150 (if you can find them) here.

And thats for average second hand ones

*sigh*

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 01:16 AM
The Maverick 88.. based on the Mossbergs, and its good, but you can feel the quality difference. I thought Mavericks were made in Mexico.

N e way.. Maverick and Mossberg parts are interchangeable.

I read that the parts were made in Mexico, though assembled into the final product in Texas. And that's good news for the interchangeable parts.

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 01:22 AM
I read that the parts were made in Mexico, though assembled into the final product in Texas. And that's good news for the interchangeable parts.
dude, you can get a brand new Mossberg 500 for 250. trust me, take a trip out of your backwoods town, and look here in civilization.

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 01:30 AM
dude, you can get a brand new Mossberg 500 for 250

Any shops you recommend?

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 01:34 AM
Any shops you recommend?
pm sent...

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 01:54 AM
at the request of a friend, my Chicom SKS

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/sks.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03032.jpg

Kilo1-1
08-23-2010, 01:58 AM
Great T-shirt there bro.

Have you had any issues with the SKS? I've heard how rusted firing pins can cause it to lock in the forward position causing discharges when chambering rounds (also with the Russian SKS) or something?

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 02:02 AM
Nice rifle BJ! Suppose this "friend" wanted to purchase this rifle, would they receive that t-shirt as well?

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 02:03 AM
Great T-shirt there bro.

Have you had any issues with the SKS? I've heard how rusted firing pins can cause it to lock in the forward position causing discharges when chambering rounds (also with the Russian SKS) or something?thanks, she has had only 16 rounds put through her in her life, which is sad, but, should help the resale. though, about the firing pin, i have heard different accounts about that, how it is a design flaw, and that its not as big a deal. alot of guns have free float pins, so that isnt the issue, all i know, ive never had it happen on this weapon, obviously, nor on any of the other SKS's ive shot, including yugo, and my buddies tula.

Death.
08-23-2010, 02:42 AM
Here ya go gaiz. HD it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvcxXMSPqHk

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 02:48 AM
^ awesome bro

I think anyone with any sense of fashion would jump at a "fabulous" shirt such as that.
.......... mmmkay...

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 03:05 AM
Cool video D3ath, but the millions of "tacticool reloads" after only a few rounds in the M16, WASR, and M1 kinda killed it.

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 03:09 AM
It doesn't count if it was with yourself!roflthat too, still his call....


Cool video D3ath, but the millions of "tacticool reloads" after only a few rounds in the M16, WASR, and M1 kinda killed it.
Alice in chains, what kinda seattle man are you!!!

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 03:11 AM
Alice in chains, what kinda seattle man are you!!!

Pff, that's what made the video "cool" BJ. A little Rooster always makes a video good.

Bro Jangles
08-23-2010, 03:18 AM
good. alomst had to deport you... to .. say... portland.

Death.
08-23-2010, 03:21 AM
Cool video D3ath, but the millions of "tacticool reloads" after only a few rounds in the M16, WASR, and M1 kinda killed it.

Eh, after a while we decided to see who could do a faster reload trying out different methods. The carbine was just for lolz because it's hard as hell to smoothly change mags. Never get to do that kind of stuff at the public range I go to so it was fun being able to try it out. And we didn't have much ammo so we were loading 5 in the AR and carbine mags, 2 in the AK.

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 08:03 AM
good. alomst had to deport you... to .. say... portland.

Portland isn't that bad of a town. But I much prefer the more secluded coastal and wilderness areas.


The carbine was just for lolz because it's hard as hell to smoothly change mags.

That M1 Carbine looked like a pretty fun little thing to shoot. I could probably go on and on for hours shooting it if I had enough ammo available.

MN_Air
08-23-2010, 06:01 PM
It has been a while! I bought a Smith and Wesson MP15OR at the end of June, and have shot around 350 rounds through it so far.

Pictures:
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/OEM_rider/100_1679-1.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/OEM_rider/100_1648.jpg

Optics: Vortex Strikefire (I absolutely love this package for its price, and useability! I don't feel bad if I knock it against something, because it was only 150 bucks! It is also dead accurate, and a pleasure to look through)

Rail: Troy Industries TRX Extreme 7.2" in FDE. (to fit a full size gas-block)


I shoot Silver Bear, and have never had a FTF, FTE or FTL.

gaijinsamurai
08-23-2010, 06:18 PM
You look like Kelly from "Top Shot".

How do you like the Troy TRX?

MN_Air
08-23-2010, 07:07 PM
You look like Kelly from "Top Shot".

How do you like the Troy TRX?


The bolts to tighten the rails into place were too short for the 4 inch rail, so I had to flip the backing plate over to get them to screw in. No detriment to performance, but a bit odd. I contacted TROY about it, and they said they would work with their new bolt manufacturer to get some longer bolts for the next set of rails.

All in all I enjoy the rail, as it gives my hand a much more comfortable feel to grip the round surface, instead of a rail. They do not work well with the Magpul AFG, because the AFG is just a couple mills to low to make it feel right (IMHO), so I sent that back as the 7.2" version really isn't suited for an AFG anyways.

when I shoot freehand (non bipod supported) I prefer to grip the rifle in the overhand grip, as it gives excellent stability, and the hand contours perfectly to the rail system.

It installs in an instant, and comes with its own removal and installation tool (the V-TAC version does not come with one) You torque it down to around 40 pounds, install the rail rotated to the left 1 click, and pull back, which locks the rail in place. It also has a nub on the non EP side to assist in lining up the rail.

My gas block does not line up with the rail properly, but this would be a fault of the gas block retention pin hole being off by just a bit, and not the rails fault.

Death.
08-23-2010, 07:30 PM
So you went from wanting a $70 Nagant to buying a $1,200 AR? Nice.

MN_Air
08-23-2010, 07:41 PM
So you went from wanting a $70 Nagant to buying a $1,200 AR? Nice.


Oh i'm still looking for a nice Nagant. I'm not looking too hard as to where i'd buy online, but if I find one I like in a shop, i'd buy it. Along with a couple other pieces I have my eye on.

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 09:33 PM
Oh i'm still looking for a nice Nagant. I'm not looking too hard as to where i'd buy online, but if I find one I like in a shop, i'd buy it. Along with a couple other pieces I have my eye on.

We've got two Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 rifles, both in great condition and for a ****ing excellent price. $100 bucks on average for the both of them at Big 5 sporting good stores. I think they even have some 1944 carbines in stock sometimes.

Anyways, I went to the Big 5 just down the road from the Evergreen State Fairgrounds and saw a couple of Remington and Mossberg shotguns for anywhere between $250 and $300. Good looking weapons, but outshadowed by the ****ing beautiful Yugoslavian (built by Century Arms) M59/66 for about $300.

Decisions, decisions, decisions. Anyways, good looking rifle MN_Air!

Roy Batty
08-23-2010, 10:20 PM
Well as the last incarnation offended Rhino so bad p-) here it is as of tonight........:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/47523a89.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/9efa2020.jpg

gaijinsamurai
08-23-2010, 10:22 PM
^
Looks good, Roy. Much better.

Anthony91
08-23-2010, 11:11 PM
Like gaijinsamurai said, MUCH better looking. Old school M14's are always best left in their original coat. :)

hood
08-24-2010, 01:26 AM
Well, now that I know that I can't have a sage stock on my m1a because I'm in NY, anyone know a good online site that sells drop-in wood stocks that l could use to make mine look like Roy batty's?

Death.
08-24-2010, 01:40 AM
http://www.fulton-armory.com/ has walnut stocks. Don't know much about M1A stuff other than them.

Bro Jangles
08-24-2010, 02:02 AM
We've got two Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 rifles, both in great condition and for a ****ing excellent price. $100 bucks on average for the both of them at Big 5 sporting good stores. I think they even have some 1944 carbines in stock sometimes.

Anyways, I went to the Big 5 just down the road from the Evergreen State Fairgrounds and saw a couple of Remington and Mossberg shotguns for anywhere between $250 and $300. Good looking weapons, but outshadowed by the ****ing beautiful Yugoslavian (built by Century Arms) M59/66 for about $300.

Decisions, decisions, decisions. Anyways, good looking rifle MN_Air!
see any nice chinese SKS? ;)

Anthony91
08-24-2010, 02:28 AM
Can't say that I did BJ. p-)

Nah, I wasn't able to head over to that shop you recommended. Felt a bit ill today so I slept all day.

gaijinsamurai
08-24-2010, 03:02 AM
Felt a bit ill today so I slept all day.

Same situation w/me. Felt sick last couple of days, and was just waiting for my weekend (Mon-Tues) so I could get some rest.

TacoDelRio
08-24-2010, 03:08 AM
Slept a lot the other day. Drank a mini fridge full of unwanted subpar beers while chilling in the jacuzzi, then ate some Tommy's (chili cheeseburgers y papas fritas), then threw it all up. THEN, slept.

MANSLEEP.

junglejim
08-24-2010, 03:13 AM
Well if you guys are expecting what the next flu will be like, just remember it came from me first. God the weekend was painful.

USMC29
08-24-2010, 05:17 AM
Anybody have any experience with https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php ? They have some killer deals.

Chulo
08-24-2010, 08:03 AM
Anybody have any experience with https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php ? They have some killer deals.
I shop there lots, they give great deals to LEO (www.budspolicesupply.com/) well known on Gunbroker and stuff. Good quality and great customer service (atleast at the store, and now they have an indoor range at Lexington)

LineDoggie
08-24-2010, 11:09 AM
Well, now that I know that I can't have a sage stock on my m1a because I'm in NY, anyone know a good online site that sells drop-in wood stocks that l could use to make mine look like Roy batty's?

http://www.fredsm14stocks.com/ It's where I got the GI Walnut stock I have


http://www.fulton-armory.com/ has them in Birch, Walnut, Synthetic, has MacMillans, etc.

oswald
08-24-2010, 11:21 AM
Another toy? Bastard!

CPLHUNTER
08-24-2010, 11:22 AM
x2, I hate you@!

theholeinthedonut
08-24-2010, 11:23 AM
Addiction bad for thehole........

CPLHUNTER
08-24-2010, 11:39 AM
yep, admitting you have a problem is the first step

theholeinthedonut
08-24-2010, 11:42 AM
But a useless one if you lack the will to change yor evil ways.

DeltaWhisky58
08-24-2010, 12:49 PM
Don't change Mr Hole.

gaijinsamurai
08-24-2010, 01:22 PM
Addiction bad for thehole........

That's what one of my ********** probationers said to me.


Nice HK Toy, Hole!

DeltaWhisky58
08-24-2010, 02:06 PM
Addiction bad for thehole........


That's what one of my ********** probationers said to me.


Priceless! http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/HighlandSniper58/Emoticons/rofl-1.gif

kinney_bmx
08-24-2010, 08:54 PM
So after putting a few mags through my cousin's AR today, I think it is finally time for me to buy my own.
Any suggestions? Or manufacturers to avoid?

Navel Lint
08-24-2010, 08:55 PM
Anyone have any opinions on Thanpson Center rifles?

kinney_bmx
08-24-2010, 08:57 PM
Anyone have any opinions on Thanpson Center rifles?
Both me and my dad have a Thompson Center blackpowder and ours have been great

Hollis
08-24-2010, 08:57 PM
Anyone have any opinions on Thanpson Center rifles?


I have two contenders and their bolt gun (Icon) in .308. They make some very nice and accurate stuff.

Navel Lint
08-24-2010, 08:59 PM
I have two contenders and their bolt gun (Icon) in .308. They make some very nice and accurate stuff.

Thats what Im looking at. The Icon Precision Hunter. I would prefer 7mm-08 but I like .308 also. It would be my second choice.

Chulo
08-24-2010, 08:59 PM
So after putting a few mags through my cousin's AR today, I think it is finally time for me to buy my own.
Any suggestions? Or manufacturers to avoid?
Depends on what you want to spend it on and if you plan to keep it or resale later on.

Anthony91
08-24-2010, 09:12 PM
So after putting a few mags through my cousin's AR today, I think it is finally time for me to buy my own.
Any suggestions? Or manufacturers to avoid?

Would this be your first firearm purchase?

Roy Batty
08-24-2010, 09:17 PM
Very nice Mr Hole......



My newest toy:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/63f806ef.jpg

kinney_bmx
08-24-2010, 09:18 PM
Would this be your first firearm purchase?
No, would be my first AR purchase though

Anthony91
08-24-2010, 09:18 PM
Reminds me of a .22 rifle I saw recently, what is it exactly?

Anthony91
08-24-2010, 09:18 PM
No, would be my first AR purchase though

Couldn't help you out there bro, i'm still deciding between a Yugo SKS and a Mossberg 500.

Roy Batty
08-24-2010, 09:21 PM
It's a Remington 597VTR (.22)

kinney_bmx
08-24-2010, 09:25 PM
Depends on what you want to spend it on and if you plan to keep it or resale later on.
I'm not too worried about the price to a point (I'm not made of money but I want good quality)
Theres always a chance that I will resell it at some point but I plan on keeping it for awhile

Chulo
08-24-2010, 09:34 PM
I'm not too worried about the price to a point (I'm not made of money but I want good quality)
Theres always a chance that I will resell it at some point but I plan on keeping it for awhile
I would look at the S&W M&P15 as a starter AR- starts out around $850-900. Good quality, good resale value and dependable. I have looked at the cheaper ones like Doublestar but if you have the money, just go with the "better" more expensive one (within reason) for a $100 more.

BlackFlag
08-24-2010, 09:38 PM
I'm not too worried about the price to a point (I'm not made of money but I want good quality)
Theres always a chance that I will resell it at some point but I plan on keeping it for awhile

My vote of confidence goes to Spikes Tactical. Very nice mid-high end rifles for a good price (Basic M4 style for 799.99).

MN_Air
08-24-2010, 10:32 PM
I've touched and handled a BCM upper, and I can tell you that they are quality. I can't reccomend the Smith and Wesson enough though. My gun is the MP15OR, and I picked it up from a mom and pop store for 979 without tax. They have the exact same gun at Gander Mountain right now for 879 without tax.

kinney_bmx
08-24-2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks alot guys. I appreciate it.
I'll take a good look at all the suggestions and I'll probably hit up Rapid Fire, Olde English, and Gander Mtn next week

Bacon
08-24-2010, 11:18 PM
So after putting a few mags through my cousin's AR today, I think it is finally time for me to buy my own.
Any suggestions? Or manufacturers to avoid?

If I had the chance, I would pick up a AR from BCM.

Death.
08-24-2010, 11:21 PM
The 18" A4 I shot Sunday is 100% BCM and a pretty nice rifle. Got me wanting to build myself one this year. I've been reading up and apparently it's "okay" to fire the polymer-coated non-sealed Wolf .223 in AR15s? If that's true I'm sold. Haha. But if not, no thanks. I don't want anymore rifles that hurt to shoot.

MN_Air
08-24-2010, 11:34 PM
The 18" A4 I shot Sunday is 100% BCM and a pretty nice rifle. Got me wanting to build myself one this year. I've been reading up and apparently it's "okay" to fire the polymer-coated non-sealed Wolf .223 in AR15s? If that's true I'm sold. Haha. But if not, no thanks. I don't want anymore rifles that hurt to shoot.


You can pick up Silver Bear for .20$/round, which is around .10$ cheaper than the cheapest wolf I could find. You can't reload silver bear, but i've shot 350 rounds or so( the exact number is in a post before this) with 120 being all within 2 hours. Absolutely no troubles with it. Of course it isn't a competition rifle, but it does damn fine.

Death.
08-24-2010, 11:55 PM
Where are you buying the silver bear at? Ammoman has the polymer wolf crap for $239 shipped for 1,000 rounds.

I'm looking at a BCM 'cosmetic blemish' lower and a BCM 14.5" upper with a birdcage welded on.

MN_Air
08-25-2010, 12:15 AM
That is pretty cheap. I buy my ammo off of cheaper than dirt. Looks like I was off by 4 cents per round though.

http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/.223_Remington_5.56x45mm

Still a good deal for something I know works well in my gun. I've never shot the wolf stuff, but it might be worth buying 100 rounds or something, and shooting them to see what happens.


A 14.5" barrel would be nice, but for what I use my gun for, I just can't justify having a pinned and welded flash hider, and that 1.5 inch difference isn't worth it. I'm no expert on them, but I believe once everything is assembled, it isn't coming out, unless you cut the end off. Correct me if I am wrong though.

Death.
08-25-2010, 12:18 AM
There's no way to take it off without damaging the barrel and breaking the NFA. But I don't care, 16" carbine barrels look goofy and I don't do any competition shooting so a short barrel and a carbine-length handguard is fine by me. If I cared about stuff like efficiency I'd probably do a mid-length 16".

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 01:30 AM
If I had the chance, I would pick up a AR from BCM.

x2, and the Smith & Wesson M&P would probably be my second choice.

The Spike's Tactical sounds like a good option too.


Nice .22 Roy.

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 01:44 AM
Couldn't help you out there bro, i'm still deciding between a Yugo SKS and a Mossberg 500.
i hate those yugo SKS

If I had the chance, I would pick up a AR from BCM.
ive been pricing barrels through them, but at 299 a pop, its doubtfull right now.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 01:49 AM
I would like the Yugo SKS more if it didn't have that ghey muzzle device. A chrome-lined barrel would be good too.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 01:50 AM
ive been pricing barrels through them, but at 299 a pop, its doubtfull right now.

I'm torn between BCM and the Noveske, which costs nearly twice as much, for my current project.

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 01:50 AM
Couldn't help you out there bro, i'm still deciding between a Yugo SKS and a Mossberg 500.


I would like the Yugo SKS more if it didn't have that ghey muzzle device. A chrome-lined chamber would be good too.
soooo... any other sks. imm just not a fan.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 01:53 AM
There is a version of the Yugo SKS that doesn't have the muzzle device. Unfortunately, they're rare and pricey.

I'm a big fan of the SKS. Great rifles.

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 01:54 AM
There is a version of the Yugo SKS that doesn't have the muzzle device. Unfortunately, they're rare and pricey.

I'm a big fan of the SKS. Great rifles.
me too, im pissed i only put 16 rounds through mine. if she doesnt sell by september 10 th, than she stays.

anyone know of a nicce wood stock for the SKS that is longer? damn short commie guns.

whoreable
08-25-2010, 02:20 AM
LWRC M6A2 5.56
EOTECH 512

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7809/lwrc6.jpg
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6007/lwrc4.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3553/lwrc.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1042/lwrc3.jpg

sergey31
08-25-2010, 04:44 AM
Waffen Werks AK 54R
Purchased it trough Atlantic Firearms recently. Both companies are the best companies I've dealt with, had a small problem, Waffen Werks took care of it really fast. Nice people and excellent top of the line product.

If I wanted an traditional AK I would have converted a Saiga, but Saiga does not come in this awesome cartridge so WF are the closest thing to traditional AK. It uses AK furniture and accepts any 14x1lh muzzle breaks/flash suppressors.
The barrel is cut from FPK/PSL to 16", build on NoDak Spud receiver, trigger group is Tapco and its very nice, scope mount is same as PSL. Very professionally made, inside & out.

Overall I'm very satisfied with the rifle, so much so that I would buy another if I could. Well worth the money and then some.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image1h4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image26b0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image1g1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image3v9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image5cx.jpg

PO 3,5x17,5 P Scope (shown here with front shade attached, it's much shorter)
It's the closer to the receiver mount/scope setup I could come up with. Clearance is very small.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image10f.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image11g5.jpg

Installed different muzzle break, I think this should be more affective than original FPK/PSL one. This one has two washers, one modified to fit front sight pin, second one has a silicone seal/washer and some teflon tape on threads, it's very tight fit. It should hold.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image8h5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image9j.jpg

Comparison of 7.62x54R and 7.62x39mm mag/cartridge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image7vcx.jpg

It's surprisingly smaller rifle than I first thought, you really don't realize until you compare it to other 16" barrel rifles (yes, original muzzle break went to the AK on right side).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/IMGP8649.jpg

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 04:55 AM
very nice, and unique, hypothetically how much would one of them run?

sergey31
08-25-2010, 05:01 AM
Around 800 + or -, I guess it depends who's selling it.
Atlantic Firearms has them at 840

theholeinthedonut
08-25-2010, 05:08 AM
Very nice stuff whoreabe and Sergey31.

TacoDelRio
08-25-2010, 06:07 AM
Sergey, that's pretty damn awesome.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 07:34 AM
Great stuff, Sergey and whoreable!

Chulo
08-25-2010, 09:26 AM
darn you sergey31, looks like im going to have to re thread my saiga barrels to get some effective breaks on.

Hollis
08-25-2010, 09:51 AM
darn you sergey31, looks like im going to have to re thread my saiga barrels to get some effective breaks on.


I put a phantom flash suppressor on my Saiga, looks a lot cooler and helps.

LineDoggie
08-25-2010, 12:47 PM
There's no way to take it off without damaging the barrel and breaking the NFA. But I don't care, 16" carbine barrels look goofy and I don't do any competition shooting so a short barrel and a carbine-length handguard is fine by me. If I cared about stuff like efficiency I'd probably do a mid-length 16".
Go with the 16" unless your trying to pass it off as a GI M4 the extra 1.5" will give you somewhat better Velocity and accuracy. A Buddy got hold of an 14.5 upper and he got heartburn over it every time from Range people. Not worth it.

Geezah
08-25-2010, 01:05 PM
There's no way to take it off without damaging the barrel and breaking the NFA. But I don't care, 16" carbine barrels look goofy and I don't do any competition shooting so a short barrel and a carbine-length handguard is fine by me. If I cared about stuff like efficiency I'd probably do a mid-length 16".

I had my Mini-Y taken off by a guy in Florida(can't remember the company name) who replaced it with a tactical brake, then when the AWB went away I had a Phantom blind pinned and welded onto it and I've not see any downside to having this done twice now.

Anthony91
08-25-2010, 01:18 PM
i hate those yugo SKS


I would like the Yugo SKS more if it didn't have that ghey muzzle device. A chrome-lined barrel would be good too.

Looking at the M59/66, it's a bit love/hate for me. It was mainly the first thing that attracted me to it, but it wouldn't crush me if it could be removed.


I'm a big fan of the SKS. Great rifles.

That's what i've heard from a few of my dad's friends and some reviews i've watched on YouTube (namely from that Hickok45 guy). Plus it looks like a fantastic rifle in terms of customization, but I can't for the love of God figure out how they put a 30 round mag into those things. I'm thinking magic, but I dunno...super glue maybe?

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 01:32 PM
Looking at the M59/66, it's a bit love/hate for me. It was mainly the first thing that attracted me to it, but it wouldn't crush me if it could be removed.



That's what i've heard from a few of my dad's friends and some reviews i've watched on YouTube (namely from that Hickok45 guy). Plus it looks like a fantastic rifle in terms of customization, but I can't for the love of God figure out how they put a 30 round mag into those things. I'm thinking magic, but I dunno...super glue maybe?

Personally, I HATE customized SKS rifles. If you want a magazine, get an AK.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 01:33 PM
I've always been enamored with the Mini-Uzi, Mr. Hole.

Anthony91
08-25-2010, 01:35 PM
Personally, I HATE customized SKS rifles. If you want a magazine, get an AK.

Oh i'm not saying i'd personally customize my own SKS if I decided to buy one. Like the AK/FAL/etc., it's beautiful in it's "plain-jane" state.

theholeinthedonut
08-25-2010, 02:14 PM
I've always been enamored with the Mini-Uzi, Mr. Hole.

It sure is fun to shoot, I prefer it to the full-size Uzi.

Bacon
08-25-2010, 02:36 PM
I'm torn between BCM and the Noveske, which costs nearly twice as much, for my current project.

You cant go wrong with either. I have a KAC SR15 E3. My next one if I ever get an opportunity would be a Noveske or BCM SBR. Either 11.5-12.5" bbl. I was tempted on a PWS Gas Piston 12.5 upper.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 02:45 PM
I go back and forth between the two. For the amount of shooting I'm able to do these days (not much :(), the less expensive BCM would be just fine. But, since my upper/lower receivers are Noveske, I'd kinda like to go Noveske all the way, especially since they're most famous for their barrels.

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 04:55 PM
That's what i've heard from a few of my dad's friends and some reviews i've watched on YouTube (namely from that Hickok45 guy). Plus it looks like a fantastic rifle in terms of customization, but I can't for the love of God figure out how they put a 30 round mag into those things. I'm thinking magic, but I dunno...super glue maybe?
the mag of a opens and swings out on a pivot in front of the mag allowing the rounds to be quickly removed. that mag can be taken off, and the gay 30 rounders only have a half latch for that pivot, so in essence you rock the mag back on the pivot untill it latches on the mag release.

Geezah
08-25-2010, 05:03 PM
The Chinese Para SKS takes AK mags, my Wifes Step Father has one.

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 05:05 PM
The Chinese Para SKS takes AK mags, my Wifes Step Father has one.
ya, thats the SKS -D, and -M

Anthony91
08-25-2010, 05:42 PM
the mag of a opens and swings out on a pivot in front of the mag allowing the rounds to be quickly removed. that mag can be taken off, and the gay 30 rounders only have a half latch for that pivot, so in essence you rock the mag back on the pivot untill it latches on the mag release.

Sounds like a hassle for someone who's just using the rifle for recreational use. 10 rounds are good enough for me, that, and the SKS looks insanely fugly with a 30-round AK-47 magazine.

Death.
08-25-2010, 06:43 PM
The Chinese Para SKS takes AK mags, my Wifes Step Father has one.

Probably the best SKS's. SKS high capacity magazines are pieces of **** and would probably lose in a bar fight against an AK 47 mag. Hell the whole way of inserting and removing magazines on the SKS blows.

Bro Jangles
08-25-2010, 06:47 PM
Probably the best SKS's. SKS high capacity magazines are pieces of **** and would probably lose in a bar fight against an AK 47 mag. Hell the whole way of inserting and removing magazines on the SKS blows.
becausase it was designed to use *****per clips.

Death.
08-25-2010, 06:54 PM
Yes, and it doesn't even do that very well.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 07:04 PM
Anthony, if you modify an SKS with Tapco stuff and add a hi-cap magazine, you'll have to get a mullet, stone-washed jeans, and have a probation officer, just to complete the image.....

Roy Batty
08-25-2010, 07:05 PM
Lol....I have a Tapco on one of my SKS's.......thank God it's reversable.....;)

DeltaWhisky58
08-25-2010, 07:34 PM
Don't worry Roy, Gaijin is just jealous because he doesn't have a Tapco stock ;)

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 07:47 PM
DW58, if you want to understand what we're talking about, think the North American version of CHAV, if SKSs were legal on your side of the water. :)



Actually, as much as I love to make fun of Tapco, they do make some things that are redeeming: AK fire control parts (hammer, trigger, sear) are great quality and essential for those AK kits to be in conformance to US 92(R) laws. Same with their AK and FAL gas pistons. I just wish they'd stick to the stuff they do well, and leave the ghetto crap alone. That's what the Chinese companies are for.

Anthony91
08-25-2010, 07:52 PM
Anthony, if you modify an SKS with Tapco stuff and add a hi-cap magazine, you'll have to get a mullet, stone-washed jeans, and have a probation officer, just to complete the image.....

I already had the mullet once in my life, so I won't go down that road. As for Tapco stuff, like I said, the SKS looks like a fine rifle as it is in it's current state. Anything else just looks like an outstanding waste of money.

But i've decided to get an SKS variant, might check out the one BJ is selling as well.

DeltaWhisky58
08-25-2010, 08:02 PM
DW58, if you want to understand what we're talking about, think the North American version of CHAV, if SKSs were legal on your side of the water. :)



Actually, as much as I love to make fun of Tapco, they do make some things that are redeeming: AK fire control parts (hammer, trigger, sear) are great quality and essential for those AK kits to be in conformance to US 92(R) laws. Same with their AK and FAL gas pistons. I just wish they'd stick to the stuff they do well, and leave the ghetto crap alone. That's what the Chinese companies are for.

I'm just yanking your chain mate ;)

As for Chavs and guns - legal or not, they can still get them, I've never heard of them with SKS carbines, but there're not shortage of AKs on the streets in some of the big cities.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 08:11 PM
I'm just yanking your chain mate ;)

.

I know. :)

Death.
08-25-2010, 08:26 PM
Those Tapco waffle plastic magazines look like they're actin a fool. But the tapco trigger in my WASR is pretty nice.

Chulo
08-25-2010, 08:32 PM
Those Tapco waffle plastic magazines look like they're actin a fool. But the tapco trigger in my WASR is pretty nice.
I used the tapco trigger group for my saiga conversion, and it is a lot "crisper" than the stock trigger. I also have the 15 rd 410 mag, and i have not had any issues with it (besides that it only feeds 3inch shells consistently) Oh, yea and i have the tapco AR stock.. i guess i should grow a mullet

hood
08-25-2010, 09:41 PM
Speaking of Tapco, only 9 months later, I received the Lancaster rifle. Mind you, this was only after legal papers were served. They're that far gone... Kind of as expected though, it's a beauty. Milled receiver, blonde wood which happens to have a very attractive grain on it. I haven't fired it yet, but half of me doesn't want to, because at least in my mind, this thing can do no wrong until that moment of truth. If something does end up going wrong with it, I'm just going to bring it to a local gunsmith. I'm never sending anything back to them again.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134813


Hmmm... here's my old stamped one that's at their warehouse somewhere, probably never to be seen again. The stock seems to be different. Is the one on the milled above, a NATO version?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=117619

MN_Air
08-25-2010, 10:00 PM
Boy oh boy is that a nice looking grain on that second stock. You can just barely make out the grain on the first picture, but I sure as heck would like to see a closer picture.

TacoDelRio
08-25-2010, 10:07 PM
Those Tapco SKS stocks make me want to punch children.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 10:52 PM
No, children taunting you with the word "Ginger" make you want to punch children.


Beautiful AK-47, Hood. I would like to have a milled receiver Kalashnikov. Nice wood, too. (Huh, huh....)

Anthony91
08-25-2010, 10:53 PM
Nice looking rifles you've got there Hood, especially the bottom one. I don't recall ever seeing that type of pistol grip on the top one before though, I presume it's not standard kit?

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 10:57 PM
It looks kinda Hungarian to me.

However, I don't recall the Hungarians ever making a milled AK. I could of course, be wrong......

TacoDelRio
08-25-2010, 10:59 PM
No, children taunting you with the word "Ginger" make you want to punch children.


Beautiful AK-47, Hood. I would like to have a milled receiver Kalashnikov. Nice wood, too. (Huh, huh....)

We Gingers are a proud race, capable of withstanding great cold and minimal exposure to the sun.

gaijinsamurai
08-25-2010, 11:02 PM
We Gingers are a proud race, capable of withstanding great cold and minimal exposure to the fun.

Fixed, for accuracy.

Chulo
08-25-2010, 11:02 PM
Nice looking rifles you've got there Hood, especially the bottom one. I don't recall ever seeing that type of pistol grip on the top one before though, I presume it's not standard kit?
Looks more like a PKM grip or a AK-M

Clear_blues
08-26-2010, 06:13 PM
Just bought a 25 round mag for my 597, we're going to have to wait and see if it works or not. It was a struggle to get the last 6 rounds loaded.

Migs
08-26-2010, 06:20 PM
Just bought a 25 round mag for my 597, we're going to have to wait and see if it works or not. It was a struggle to get the last 6 rounds loaded.
Make sure to keep it lubed up and clean, mine tends to jam (alot) when it gets dirty.
Also when taking it apart make sure that little clip on the bottom of the spring doesn't shoot off, happened to me and it's long gone.

Clear_blues
08-26-2010, 07:21 PM
Make sure to keep it lubed up and clean, mine tends to jam (alot) when it gets dirty.
Also when taking it apart make sure that little clip on the bottom of the spring doesn't shoot off, happened to me and it's long gone.
Well my hold-open spring shot out of my remington when I took it apart for cleaning, so if the clip shoots out of the magazine then maybe the it'll work better then ever, what with 2 missing springs and all

sergey31
08-26-2010, 09:14 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=134813

Very nice, almost a work of art and you won't find many claim any AK to be.....

It does have a very unusual stock and grip. I'd say it's custom as I haven't seen any military milled AK's with grove cut stock and grip is definitely an AMD AK.
How does it cycle (manually)? Proper built milled AK should be smooth and effortless not like stamped ones.

Commander Shepard
08-26-2010, 11:30 PM
Here's the rifle in its current form. AICS has been removed to be used for my wife's bolt gun build.

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/_MacGyver-/Currentresized.jpg

Black Hills 175gr BTHP:

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/_MacGyver-/CurrentTargetresized.jpg

LineDoggie
08-26-2010, 11:37 PM
Went to check out some Winchester 1895's today at American Outdoor Sports on LI. first guy tells me they are .30-06 (turns out to both are in .35 Remington), no finish at all, pitted bores, and wants 1900 bucks for each. No fancy sight, wood is crap shape

I told him to blow me and walked out.

gaijinsamurai
08-27-2010, 12:12 AM
I would have said the same, L-D.

LineDoggie
08-27-2010, 12:21 AM
Sorta had myself set on one too, Teddy Roosevelt connection and all. Gun shows at Middeltown NY fair Grounds on the 11th, and in Freeport on the 25 so who knows. Maybe get one in .30-40?

Hollis
08-27-2010, 12:30 AM
Sorta had myself set on one too, Teddy Roosevelt connection and all. Gun shows at Middeltown NY fair Grounds on the 11th, and in Freeport on the 25 so who knows. Maybe get one in .30-40?

30-40 are nice, I have a clean carbine. I had my eye on a rifle, but the seller wanted way too much for it.

Kilo1-1
08-27-2010, 02:34 AM
AAAhhhh!

Okay.

I built a new American Rifle, because I'm American, where we speak American and worship a Christian God.

God bless America.


Amen.
Great looking build, did you use a Nodak Spud receiver/parts?

Clear_blues
08-27-2010, 08:47 AM
Saw a gun the other day, apparently it has a giant tubular magazine on the top of it that holds 100 9mil rounds.

Geezah
08-27-2010, 09:10 AM
Saw a gun the other day, apparently it has a giant tubular magazine on the top of it that holds 100 9mil rounds.

Calico?...............

Clear_blues
08-27-2010, 01:01 PM
Calico?...............
Could be, it seemed like an akward weapon to use, way to long for me to be comfortable

Kilo1-1
08-27-2010, 11:28 PM
I did, both the upper and the lower. The barrel is a DEZ 20" 1/7", something I specifically sought out, as opposed to a 1/12" which is more common (and authentic) for an M16-A1.

Good choice on the 1/7 barrel. Cosmetically, it looks identical to what an A1 should be.

Mein Teil
08-27-2010, 11:31 PM
Calico?...............

I know the guy that makes them...they have a 12 guage and even a 20mm in the works.

LineDoggie
08-28-2010, 12:24 AM
Good choice on the 1/7 barrel. Cosmetically, it looks identical to what an A1 should be.And can use Heavier 65 gr M855 & the M193 where with the older 1/12 he would be restricted to 55gr M193 only. Damn good idea to remember for if I build one.

Bro Jangles
08-28-2010, 05:00 PM
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03210.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03211.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03213.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03214.jpg

CPLHUNTER
08-28-2010, 05:03 PM
nice looking collection, like the flag...what kinda scope mount is that?

looks a bit for a good cheek weld or no?

Bro Jangles
08-28-2010, 05:04 PM
it was made in belarus, i like it because it in no way impedes the irons. got it from dph arms.

CPLHUNTER
08-28-2010, 05:10 PM
nice setup, don't think I've seen an Eotech on an AK before

Bro Jangles
08-28-2010, 06:46 PM
its probably to high, gunna shoot it and decide.

Bro Jangles
08-28-2010, 06:55 PM
Nice BJ, very good.
im actually digging the mag pouch on stock. made for 5.56, but te ak mag fits.

Bro Jangles
08-28-2010, 09:09 PM
ill look into it, what magnifier is that?

whoops guys was just gunna do the furniture, but said, **** it.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03215.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03217.jpg

TheHatta
08-28-2010, 09:24 PM
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/DSC03215.jpg



Why do you hate guns?

Bro Jangles
08-28-2010, 09:28 PM
Why do you hate guns?
im a liberal seattleite. i only buy em out of spite for Californians