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Karaahmetoglu
07-30-2010, 01:53 AM
Just finished up my .308 AR (less optics). Shoots pretty good. I havent had the chance to sight it in yet, but I did do a 20 round rapid fire string for testing, which I took a video of. I wasn't expecting as much recoil as that of a 5.56 gun.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/100_0287.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/100_0293.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/100_0289.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/Guns/100_0292.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alKxGQrrGtg
http://www.ar15.com/lib/editor/img/trans.gif


Can you give us specs I was wanting to build a .308 Ar.

Nice job.

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 01:58 AM
That is really, really nice, DangerDan!

All of a sudden, I'm disinterested in my FALs :(

Mein Teil
07-30-2010, 02:00 AM
That is really, really nice, DangerDan!

All of a sudden, I'm disinterested in my FALs :(

...yur just a gun gazer gaijin

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 02:42 AM
...yeah, guilty as charged! :)

dangerdan87
07-30-2010, 07:09 AM
Associated parts list:

Upper:
- SI Defense GEN II upper (really tight specs, had to lap the charging handle to slide freely)
- BCM Gunfighter 7.62 Mod 4 charging handle
- Noveske 7.62 16" bbl w/ KAC style dimples and Cerakoted graphite black (Armalite mid length gas tube)
- KAC SR-25 URX rifle length
- KAC taupe handguards (stippled by me)
- KAC hand stop
- KAC bipod adapter
- KAC micro 2-600m BUIS
- Surefire compensator
- DPMS chrome BCG

Lower:
- POF-USA P-308 lower (CMT AR-15 parts kit)
- Geissele SSA trigger
- KAC rear sling mount endplate
- LMT buffer tube
- "SLASH" XH .308 buffer w/ modified Armalite spring
- Magpul MIAD FDE
- Magpul ACS FDE
- LMT ambi slector (right side milled)

Upper, lower, and URX were Cerakoted FDE

tactical73
07-30-2010, 10:30 AM
very nice job ;-)

He219
07-30-2010, 11:17 AM
Beautiful, dangerdan.
Well done!

What are you looking at for an optic?

dangerdan87
07-30-2010, 01:40 PM
Beautiful, dangerdan.
Well done!

What are you looking at for an optic?

Either a USO SN-4 or my EoTech

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 02:02 PM
DangerDan: Did you do the dimpling on the barrel yourself? Do the dimples result in much of a weight reduction?

I am really impressed with your rifle.

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 02:08 PM
I ordered a Noveske N4 lower/upper receiver last week, which should arrive soon.
I've ordered a few parts, but nothing big.
I'm thinking of the LMT A2-style fixed rear iron sights, until I can afford optics. I like the Centurian front sight, but according to their web site, they only sell the iron sights as a front/rear set. The HK-style drum seems goo, but I like what I'm used to. Eventually, when i get the optics (probably an Aimpoint, but not sure yet), i'll transfer the fixed rear sight to my M4gery and transfer the Mapgul BUIS to the new rifle. I'm thinking of getting a 18" barrel for this one, and am leaning towards the BCM. I originally was thinking of doing a Noveske barrel, but I can't afford everything I want and gotta make a few compromises so i can get premium stuff for other parts/accessories. Also, i'm not Delta/Force Recon/or Blackwater, just a guy with a military background who likes to go shoot as once or twice a month, if I'm lucky!

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 02:16 PM
^
Nice, H2O Man!

Roy Batty
07-30-2010, 02:22 PM
Well I feel pretty small compared to the last toys posted but I just came to an agreement to buy this Norinco (M14). She's not much but she's (soon) mine:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn243/CanadianSig/af6c79e1.jpg

H2O MAN
07-30-2010, 02:36 PM
.... I just came to an agreement to buy this Norinco (M14).



Congratulations!

BTW, both MK14s pictured above are built on Norinco receivers.

dangerdan87
07-30-2010, 02:59 PM
DangerDan: Did you do the dimpling on the barrel yourself? Do the dimples result in much of a weight reduction?

I am really impressed with your rifle.

A guy who helped with KAC patent that dempling profile did it for me. I'm not sure what weight reduction there was in the end. Nothing that you can really tell by feel.

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Well, if nothing else, it looks cool! :)

Commander Shepard
07-30-2010, 06:44 PM
Here is my SDM rifle project:

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/_MacGyver-/resized1.jpg

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/_MacGyver-/resized2.jpg

At the moment the barrel is getting drilled and pinned for the front sight base. I have never been a fan of the traditional set-screw FSB mounting system which carried over to the SDM rifle concept, since I've seen one too many of those come loose in competition.

California Joe
07-30-2010, 06:56 PM
I'm going to get a cnc machine and start a company called dimples.com.

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 07:34 PM
Can I be your posterboy, CJ? Chicks have been known to call me cute.


(Just throwin' that info out there.....)

gaijinsamurai
07-30-2010, 07:36 PM
MacGyver: You, JVeld and DangerDan all must be rich. Are you a doctor or a lawyer?

FrankBooth
07-30-2010, 08:00 PM
I always look at this thread, and then at my states gun laws and /sigh.

rhino
07-30-2010, 10:32 PM
I always look at this thread, and then at my states gun laws and /sigh.

you know, eventually Graves is going to visit you with his little present ;)

dangerdan87
07-31-2010, 12:34 AM
MacGyver: You, JVeld and DangerDan all must be rich. Are you a doctor or a lawyer?

Hah...I was a grunt in the Marines untill recently. Now I have a mediocre job that takes care of the majority of the oil field industries where I live.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 12:57 AM
Yeah, I said that half in jest, Devil Dog!

People sometimes think I've got a ton of money because of my weapons (not as nice as yours, but I have quantity), when in reality, I have a shyt job and have just been lucky.

Commander Shepard
07-31-2010, 09:09 AM
Gaijin, I have a wife who knows how to budget and loves guns.

So SCAR 17S is now out. Sadly these are not mine: http://fnforum.net/scarzilla-has-returned-and-now-reveals-his-secret-t21828.html

hood
07-31-2010, 09:24 AM
Excellent!

Why the 6 month wait?


I ordered it from policeguns.com, who takes a while to get the various models in stock. I just looked again now though, and they've got a desert tan model available now. I'm having trouble deciding if that would look good with the black receiver or if I should just wait for the original black one to come in.

https://policeguns.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28_225&products_id=6018

Cstafford
07-31-2010, 09:56 AM
I ordered it from policeguns.com, who takes a while to get the various models in stock. I just looked again now though, and they've got a desert tan model available now. I'm having trouble deciding if that would look good with the black receiver or if I should just wait for the original black one to come in.

https://policeguns.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28_225&products_id=6018
Do you live here in GA hood?

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 10:04 AM
I ordered it from policeguns.com, who takes a while to get the various models in stock. I just looked again now though, and they've got a desert tan model available now. I'm having trouble deciding if that would look good with the black receiver or if I should just wait for the original black one to come in.



Clyde Armory is my local shop... let me know what you are looking for and if you need any help.

The Mod 1 EBR/M39 they have in stock now is more of a copper color.

Cstafford
07-31-2010, 10:07 AM
I love Clydes, the new store is awesome. Beats the hell out of Franklins and Bullseye.

hood
07-31-2010, 10:24 AM
Clyde Armory is my local shop... let me know what you are looking for and if you need any help.

The Mod 1 EBR/M39 they have in stock now is more of a copper color.

Well, I searched and found some of your old posts about the Mod 1. Is the one they have, the same as your Mod 1 or is it a different color setup? ie. would you recommend it? or does the color look too funky?

This might be your Navy SEAL version, which is grey I think.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/EBRs020407%20004.jpg

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 10:25 AM
Hey, Hood!

Whatever happened with the AK you returned? Did you get a replacement?

hood
07-31-2010, 10:30 AM
Hey, Hood!
Whatever happened with the AK you returned? Did you get a replacement?

Let me first say, Lancaster needs to be put out of business. Let me also say that the Feds should swoop in, shut them down, but not before finding my serial number and shipping it back to me in a fixed state. :) It's been about 3-4 months now and they still have it. Phone calls to them are just an endless stream of lies. They'll even give you a tracking number that's bogus, then 2-3 calls later, they'll say it never shipped. What's even worse, is that my local shop recently got some ATI ones in (we can't have ****nal ones here, no AWB versions) that are rather nice. What's also sad is that Lancaster, aside from ****nal, probably makes the finest looking US put together AKs around. The fit and finish is really stellar.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 10:33 AM
Damn, that really sucks. I have heard nothing but negatives, regarding Lancaster's reputation for honesty/ethical business pratices/customer service. i know we can't always believe what we read on the net, but your story confirms what I've heard from others.

Best of luck with that, Hood.

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 11:27 AM
Well, I searched and found some of your old posts about the Mod 1.
Is the one they have, the same as your Mod 1 or is it a different color setup? ie. would you recommend it? or does the color look too funky?

This might be your Navy SEAL version, which is grey I think.

http://www.athenswater.com/images/EBRs020407%20004.jpg

That is my extremely rare 1st generation Mod 1 stock... one of eleven released to the public.
I replaced the 18" action with a 22" Crazy Horse action to create the CH M21A5 EBR.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/UniqueM8021-1.jpg

https://policeguns.com/catalog/images/clydearmorymod1stock.jpg

I think Clyde's has a similar color in stock and I know they have the copper color pictured below on the shelf.

http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp284/vette447/SAGE%20EBRs/IMG_3530Large.jpg

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 11:35 AM
...... ...........

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 12:01 PM
How many M14s do you own, Water Man?

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 12:19 PM
How many M14s do you own, Water Man?

I think it's 6 right now, but I have one unaltered Poly Tech up for sale to help fund another SEI build.

Soldat_Américain
07-31-2010, 12:52 PM
H20 Man, do you have a Bull-pup build?

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 12:55 PM
H20 Man, do you have a Bull-pup build?

Not yet, but I have placed my order with Rich for a 762BD.
I'll post pictures and details when it happens.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 01:03 PM
I think it's 6 right now, but I have one unaltered Poly Tech up for sale to help fund another SEI build.

Cool.
Generally speaking, when it comes to rifles I'm into FALs, Kalashnikovs, and AR variants. This time last year I was obsessed with the FALs. After about six months, I started getting into my AKs again (adding a couple more to my collection in the process), and at this time, I've kinda come full circle to my AR interest, where I was a couple of years ago.

hood
07-31-2010, 01:10 PM
Ok cool, I sent matt@ an email about changing up my order. Now I just have to hope that he'll ship to a civvie in NY since it has the collapsible stock (that I'll get fixed before assembling it). Another question I had, was what is the pistol grip? Is it a standard AR style with the single allen screw holding it in so I can put a Magpul MIAD on it, or is it a proprietary one that's specific for the Sage?

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 01:20 PM
... what is the pistol grip? Is it a standard AR style with the single allen screw holding it in so I can put a Magpul MIAD on it, or is it a proprietary one that's specific for the Sage?

Tango Down and I understand the MIAD is doable with a little 'fitting'.

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 01:29 PM
Cool.
Generally speaking, when it comes to rifles I'm into FALs, Kalashnikovs, and AR variants. This time last year I was obsessed with the FALs. After about six months, I started getting into my AKs again (adding a couple more to my collection in the process), and at this time, I've kinda come full circle to my AR interest, where I was a couple of years ago.

Understood.

After shooting ARs for over 30 years I dumped them and went to M14s, that was about 10 years ago.
I was distracted briefly by the AR-10 and the newer ARs, but I sold all of them off.
I have slowly reduced my collection of 7.62 Kalashnikov rifles down to a single Norinco AKM.

Several M14s, a pair of lever action rifles (.45-70 & .357 Mag.), a shotgun and a lone AKM is where I'm at now.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 02:44 PM
I've got a .357 lever and two .30-30s. Used to have a .45-70, and want another really bad. Damn, I regret parting with that!

Hollis
07-31-2010, 03:49 PM
I've got a .357 lever and two .30-30s. Used to have a .45-70, and want another really bad. Damn, I regret parting with that!


I happen to know a guy, who has two Marlin guide guns in 45/70 and would love to own a nice Israeli FAL... maybe even more to the trade. :-|

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 03:54 PM
Hmmmm.........

Cstafford
07-31-2010, 05:40 PM
I've got a .357 lever and two .30-30s. Used to have a .45-70, and want another really bad. Damn, I regret parting with that!
http://www.jbcustom.com/page79.html

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 07:19 PM
^
Nice, but $1700? Ouch!

I think I'd opt for the Rossi version!

Hollis
07-31-2010, 07:20 PM
^^^ 2X, me too. Or... I would make my one, $150.00 - 250.00 plus some labor.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 07:28 PM
My assumption is that it would have to be registered as a 'pistol". If one were to make a lever action carbine into a "mare's leg", what would the person have to do to have it be legally considered a "pistol"? I assume there's a process that involves paperwork?

Bro Jangles
07-31-2010, 07:31 PM
My assumption is that it would have to be registered as a 'pistol". If one were to make a lever action carbine into a "mare's leg", what would the person have to do to have it be legally considered a "pistol"? I assume there's a process that involves paperwork?
i understand that you can make a rifle a pistol, but not a pistol back to a rifle. like the 10/22 charger. i asked lacaonian, but he didnt get back to me.

T3ngu
07-31-2010, 07:46 PM
I've got a .357 lever and two .30-30s. Used to have a .45-70, and want another really bad. Damn, I regret parting with that!


I happen to know a guy, who has two Marlin guide guns in 45/70 and would love to own a nice Israeli FAL... maybe even more to the trade. :-|
Was trying to explain to my wife last night that i need a lever gun. The argument didn't stick with logic though. I really don't need one. i should have used the word "like".

Hollis
07-31-2010, 07:48 PM
My oldest lever was made in 1881, a '73 Winchester in 44-40. Tell here it is a great investment. Wall Street Journal did a article on investing in firearms over a year ago. That might help.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 08:02 PM
Was trying to explain to my wife last night that i need a lever gun. The argument didn't stick with logic though. I really don't need one. i should have used the word "like".

Tell her you'll NEED it to defend her from the zombie crocodiles when they come to life.

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 08:04 PM
My oldest lever was made in 1881, a '73 Winchester in 44-40. Tell here it is a great investment. Wall Street Journal did a article on investing in firearms over a year ago. That might help.

Winchester '73, starring Jimmy Stewart and Shelley Winters, was one of my favorite westerns when i was a kid.

A Wall Street Journal article is what all of us married gun nuts need, if nothing else, to justify our addiction to our wives.

Cstafford
07-31-2010, 08:04 PM
From what I understand, if the rifles "receiver" was never used as a rifle, then it can be considered a pistol. I want a lever gun so bad atm, local store has a nice Winchester 94 for around 400. Itching to drop the cash.

Geezah
07-31-2010, 08:22 PM
i understand that you can make a rifle a pistol, but not a pistol back to a rifle. like the 10/22 charger. i asked lacaonian, but he didnt get back to me.

You can turn a pistol into a rifle via an SBR......Just saying....

H2O MAN
07-31-2010, 08:33 PM
I've got a .357 lever and two .30-30s.
Used to have a .45-70, and want another really bad. Damn, I regret parting with that!

My .357 Magnum Trapper Carbine

http://www.athenswater.com/images/94TrapperCarbine-357Mag.jpg

My .45-70 Guide Gun

http://www.athenswater.com/images/GuideGun.jpg

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 09:01 PM
Nice, H2O Man!

Sneeker
07-31-2010, 09:09 PM
Wow That guide gun is amazing! Nice stuff!

Commander Shepard
07-31-2010, 10:43 PM
My midlength AR and the wife's SCAR:

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/_MacGyver-/EditA.jpg

Soldat_Américain
07-31-2010, 11:17 PM
H20 Man...when is Winchester set to manufacture da weapons again?

gaijinsamurai
07-31-2010, 11:29 PM
Nice, MacG.

I wish my wife wanted a new FN SCAR ;)

hood
08-01-2010, 12:51 AM
H2O I have a bookmark of that Winchester in my browser. It's neat to see the actual thing. No matter how much I want one, I just can't in a million years justify $1700 for something that's a novelty and probably wouldn't get much use.

Soldat_Américain
08-01-2010, 12:55 AM
Not a novelty...lever guns and six guns all a part of the cow puncher kit!

H2O MAN
08-01-2010, 06:40 AM
H2O I have a bookmark of that Winchester in my browser. It's neat to see the actual thing.
No matter how much I want one, I just can't in a million years justify $1700 for something that's a novelty and probably wouldn't get much use.

Are they worth that much now?

Hollis
08-01-2010, 11:02 AM
Are they worth that much now?


Depends on the Winchester, model and year it was made. You can go to gunbroker and look up what the prices are at auction. Sort of gives you a idea.

H2O MAN
08-01-2010, 12:15 PM
Depends on the Winchester, model and year it was made.
You can go to gunbroker and look up what the prices are at auction. Sort of gives you a idea.

A quick check of GB listings and it looks like my Winchester is valued @ about $800.00

Thanks

Hollis
08-01-2010, 12:24 PM
A quick check of GB listings and it looks like my Winchester is valued @ about $800.00

Thanks


GB, is a pretty good source to see what current value is. Final selling price is a good indicator or "buy it now" on new, Bids are not nor asking price. Also a look a shipping and transfer fees help too.

hood
08-01-2010, 02:02 PM
Well, this was the one I was looking at. My price was retail, which to be specific, is $1549, not 1700. It's been a while since I last looked. I just don't know how they can charge that much for a gun that has none of the features of a modern firearm in that price class. It's probably novelty mixed with not nearly as many people buying them.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=022C&mid=534167

Hollis
08-01-2010, 02:14 PM
My guess would be, 1) it is a take down. 2) limited production so he cost of tooling is spread over a limited run. I wouldn't pay that amount either. Winchester must be thinking very highly of this rifle. Unless you need a take down, look at a used Marlin. IMHO, Marlin has a much better action right out of the box than Winchester does.


I checked on gunbroker, they don't even have one listed.

Soldat_Américain
08-01-2010, 03:29 PM
A lot of pre 1964 Model 1894 .30-30s for good prices. Between $400-700 on Gunbroker. I'm really tempted.

Migs
08-01-2010, 07:56 PM
Colt 1851 Navy replica by F. lli Pieta.
http://a.imageshack.us/img709/7342/dscf01602.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/dscf01602.jpg/)
Naval Batte of Campeche engraved on the cylinder.
http://a.imageshack.us/img688/5728/50145390.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/50145390.jpg/)
^
sry about the pube.

hood
08-01-2010, 08:08 PM
My guess would be, 1) it is a take down. 2) limited production so he cost of tooling is spread over a limited run. I wouldn't pay that amount either. Winchester must be thinking very highly of this rifle. Unless you need a take down, look at a used Marlin. IMHO, Marlin has a much better action right out of the box than Winchester does.
I checked on gunbroker, they don't even have one listed.

I just looked up "takedown" in reference to these. I just thought that was part of the name, I had no idea it was designed to be taken apart to half its size for hiding or storage. I guess it makes sense to be more expensive because of this. It was the only carbine on Winchester's site, which is why I bookmarked it. Holy Toledo! The Marlin 1894 in .357 can be had for only $5-600... wow. Damn it Hollis, you're bankrupting me with your brainy bits!

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/Cowboy/1894_45Colt.asp

Hollis
08-01-2010, 08:45 PM
Take downs were real popular around 1900.

Being gun poor, is a norm. I am looking at getting a Remington Rand 1911 this Tuesday.

Clear_blues
08-01-2010, 10:17 PM
A bought a Remington model 597 .22 a few weeks ago for $160. Took it out to the pit today to put it through its pace.

The iron sights are decent, but would've benifited from fiber optics or something besides the single white dot of paint on the front sight.
Another person with me said the bolt handle fell off when he was shooting, I don't think it's likely to happen, despite it being removable.
The only real problem firing the weapon was an occasional dud round that failed to fire in the chamber.
The 10 round magazine that I bought $20 at Gander, or $15 as I later found out at Dunums sports) to supplement the one that came with it, is stiff and abit of a struggle after the 8th or 9th round.
The two action springs and bars are a pain in the ass to put back into the chamber, despite what the manual says. The first time I reassmbled it, it took 10 minutes of bending and sliding them to get them back in.
When I cleaned the weapon afer firing around 300 rounds, the damn Hold-Open spring shot out and was lost in the grass:( leaving half the hold-open mechanism high and dry.
Not a bad piece over all, but not perfect. Just my thoughts
Edit:before you rip me apart for my gun case, it was the cheapest one they had that fit, everything else was name brand and thus double the price

hood
08-02-2010, 12:10 AM
No qualms with your gun case Clearblues, look at my Sig Mosquito! I love .22 rifles, but now that I'm handgun capable, I think I like them even more in handguns since it feels a little more powerful and you get a bit of a flash out of such a short barrel. Accuracy goes out the window though. At 15 yards, I was lucky to get 5-6 shots out of 40 on a 5" target.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZz9SM_J9E

marko16
08-02-2010, 12:18 AM
You practice enough with that Mosquito and you won't miss out of 40. I have the short P22 and it requires perfect skill (or it will short stroke) and I'm amazed how good I got at shooting it. Take your time and hold it proper like a big gun and it will come around. I shoot at a 5in.X5in. steel box and only miss if I get lax at 30yds. Pistols are tough but with cheep .22 it's all in the practice.

hood
08-02-2010, 12:22 AM
You practice enough with that Mosquito and you won't miss out of 40. I have the short P22 and it requires perfect skill (or it will short stroke) and I'm amazed how good I got at shooting it. Take your time and hold it proper like a big gun and it will come around. I shoot at a 5in.X5in. steel box and only miss if I get lax at 30yds. Pistols are tough but with cheep .22 it's all in the practice.

It's frustrating at times, but I'm keeping at it. Handguns in general are very unforgiving compared to rifles. All these years of watching movies and TV makes everyone out to be an expert marksman.

Wake27
08-02-2010, 01:19 AM
It's frustrating at times, but I'm keeping at it. Handguns in general are very unforgiving compared to rifles. All these years of watching movies and TV makes everyone out to be an expert marksman.

+1. I'm terrible with my dad's 1911, but pretty good with the few rifles I've shot. Its depressing.

Mein Teil
08-02-2010, 01:24 AM
+1. I'm terrible with my dad's 1911, but pretty good with the few rifles I've shot. Its depressing.

Every firearm functions on the same principles, sight picture/allignment, breathing and trigger control. Once you master those and apply them you can master any fiream. With a pistol just make sure you have a proper grip and keep both eyes open when you shoot.;)

Wake27
08-02-2010, 03:23 AM
Every firearm functions on the same principles, sight picture/allignment, breathing and trigger control. Once you master those and apply them you can master any fiream. With a pistol just make sure you have a proper grip and keep both eyes open when you shoot.;)

I keep forgetting to try both eyes open shooting. I'll have to remember that next time.

PCSOGADGET
08-02-2010, 04:38 AM
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss350/PCSOGADGET/IMG_3697.jpg
Beat up police trade in Remington 870 with Blackhawk Knoxx SpecOps stock and forend, tacstar sidesaddle (mesa soon) and Choate 2-shot extention which with slight modification is a +3 thus giving me 7+1 in an 18.5" barrel 870.

Geezah
08-02-2010, 10:04 PM
I'm going to post this again, as I now know how to embed videos again.........hah
http://www.youtube.com/v/N9XniE8hhKo
.50BMG, nothing but fun..............

rhino
08-02-2010, 11:14 PM
.50BMG, nothing but fun..............

..... till you have to **** that **** for few hours :(

Delta Niner
08-03-2010, 02:01 AM
you are a lucky man MacGyver :)

Geezah
08-03-2010, 10:04 AM
..... till you have to **** that **** for few hours :(

I guess I should have put, nothing but fun when it belongs to someone else.........p-)

LineDoggie
08-03-2010, 08:07 PM
I'm going to post this again, as I now know how to embed videos again.........hah
http://www.youtube.com/v/N9XniE8hhKo
.50BMG, nothing but fun..............Or someone doesnt headspace it correctly


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Px0wErIeJI

greendzflash
08-03-2010, 08:09 PM
[QUOTE=Linedoggie;QUOTE]

NOW THAT, is superb!!

i ve like the ting, tingting as the barrel falls....bril!

Kilo1-1
08-03-2010, 10:12 PM
Crap, that's happened to me.. except with a 870 12 gauge. Stupid piece of $%@* before i fixed it.

Cstafford
08-04-2010, 02:00 PM
Very cool, is that a ultimak rail?

Bro Jangles
08-04-2010, 05:20 PM
Got my Wasr back from my buddy after a year. good to have her back.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/Photo0043.jpg
(since all the airsofters put real ammo next to their toys, i did likewise)

traded a AK74 style Flash Suppressor for a AKM slant cut, and a Thread protector for that AK47 look.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/Photo0046.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/Photo0045.jpg

I messed around with all my AK parts.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/Photo0048.jpg

and a 3 point sling for my mossberg.
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm112/bravo-juliet/Photo0047.jpg

JVeld
08-04-2010, 05:26 PM
132528
There's just nothing like shooting that old M2.....

gaijinsamurai
08-04-2010, 07:01 PM
You're absolutely right, JVeld! Nothing like MaDeuce!

Possibly my favorite weapon (after the M203), as long as I'm not humping it.

orange
08-04-2010, 07:26 PM
Went to the range with a buddy that just bought a CZ SP-01 Shadow that was reconfigured by Frankonia in Germany. It's now called a Shadow Mamba.

Picture (http://www.waffenhandlung-lahmer.de/pistolen/img_waffen_CZ75_sp01_shadow_mamba.JPG)

Sweet gun! The precision of that gun is pretty much awesome and I now feel that I maybe should've bought one of those instead of my Glock 17 Gen4.

And by the way: Awesome looking AK H2O.

TacoDelRio
08-04-2010, 09:40 PM
BJ, I dig the 6mm FPJ ammo scattered around your AK.

hood
08-05-2010, 12:01 AM
Yeah the airsoft pellets had me laughing. H20 Man, I got my sage stock in the mail today and it's a thing of beauty. The copper finish isn't as severe as the picture on the website makes out. Before I can go close to it with my M1A, I have to have a gunsmith fix the stock, but I was having a look at the instructions. It looks rather involved, way more so than I was thinking when they say that it's just a "drop in". They talk about having to take off various parts, including the flash supressor. My M1A Scout has a muzzle brake, not a suppressor, did you have to take yours off for this? I'm thinking of maybe just giving everything over to the gunsmith and having them take care of all of it.

Hollis
08-05-2010, 12:07 AM
Yeah the airsoft pellets had me laughing..


Those were not some kind of alien bed bugs?

Bro Jangles
08-05-2010, 01:44 AM
Those were not some kind of alien bed bugs?
you cant get bed bugs in pink sheets.

JVeld
08-05-2010, 03:30 AM
You're absolutely right, JVeld! Nothing like MaDeuce!

Possibly my favorite weapon (after the M203), as long as I'm not humping it.

Exactly !!! I love my old M203, im pissed they took it away at the beginning of this deployment and gave me a freaking H&K M-320....thing is bulky and heavy, I took it off my M4 and use it separate . ( here s a pic of what it looks like mounted and how I carry it )

132555

SMGLee
08-05-2010, 03:37 AM
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ca/huge/P1040632.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/ca/huge/P1040631.JPG

Colt M4 upper with Centurion Arms 7.0 free float rail system
KAC 600 BUIS
Schmidt&Bender Short Dot with ADM Recon mount
Surefire M620V Vampire Light with dual switch
Insight PEQ15
LMT SOPMOD stock
Tangodown Battlegrip, QD VFG and ARC magazine
Surefire AR556 suppressor

JVeld
08-05-2010, 03:41 AM
Very nice Chen !!! ....are those TD mags available in the US yet ? how do they compare to Pmags ?

Bro Jangles
08-05-2010, 03:42 AM
they look hideous

Cstafford
08-05-2010, 08:19 AM
they look hideous
Yes they do.

Roy Batty
08-05-2010, 08:20 AM
I concure....

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 12:13 PM
Besides the magazine, that is a SEXY rifle, Chen!

How do you like the S&B optics?

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 12:24 PM
I'm thinking of this for my current project:

http://store.troyind.com/11_TRX_Extreme_BattleRail_p/strx-eli-e0bt-00.htm

SMGLee
08-05-2010, 12:49 PM
Gaijin,

thanks on the good word...I think its a pretty darn kool looking rifle. notice the new Surefire Vampire M620V? the IR/Visible LED Scout light with a Surefire dual switch for the light and the Insight PEQ15...I thought that is one slick combo.

The S&B is awesome, but I am more of a red dot with a magnifier guy. It is what you are used to that really matters.

If you are interest in the TRX, I know where you can score a brand new one for 100.00. the color would be tan, that is the only limitation.

Guys
As far as the magazine, some times function of a certain items are more important then the form. As TD developed the magazine, they took advise from SOCOM where a lot of the operator have waterborne mission where a magazine with an aggressive exterior to help with slippery gloves. hence the large square cuts. the magazine were developed at the request of FN for the SCAR, the military version also have a flange the help block out crude from entering the mag well. yea, you might feel its ugly, but then again, an UZI is ugly, but I still love it for what it is and what it can do.

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 12:57 PM
PM inbound to SMG_Lee!

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 01:07 PM
Guys
As far as the magazine, some times function of a certain items are more important then the form. As TD developed the magazine, they took advise from SOCOM where a lot of the operator have waterborne mission where a magazine with an aggressive exterior to help with slippery gloves. hence the large square cuts. the magazine were developed at the request of FN for the SCAR, the military version also have a flange the help block out crude from entering the mag well. yea, you might feel its ugly, but then again, an UZI is ugly, but I still love it for what it is and what it can do.

I don't think you'll find any arguments from me on that issue, especially as someone who loves Uzis and Glocks!

Roy Batty
08-05-2010, 01:11 PM
Funny. I've had my weapon in most environmets from mud or dust and 35c to ice and -55c and everything in between and I have never had a problem with crap getting into my weapon from the magwell as long as I kept my average, everyday issued mag in it.

Kilo1-1
08-05-2010, 01:13 PM
Colt M4 upper with Centurion Arms 7.0 free float rail system


Any word on when Monte's releasing those FF rails?

rhino
08-05-2010, 01:16 PM
Funny. I've had my weapon in most environmets from mud or dust and 35c to ice and -55c and everything in between and I have never had a problem with crap getting into my weapon from the magwell as long as I kept my average, everyday issued mag in it.

are you saying that your every day use equipment procured for Her Royal Highness Canadian Armed Forces is the best bang for the buck and there is no need to improve it??? or at least try out other designes??

Roy Batty
08-05-2010, 01:55 PM
are you saying that your every day use equipment procured for Her Royal Highness Canadian Armed Forces is the best bang for the buck and there is no need to improve it??? or at least try out other designes??

Hell no. I'm a bigger gear whore than almost anyone on these boards. I ran PMags on my last tour as well....but purely out of curiosity....not because my issued mags ever failed me.

trunk_munkey28
08-05-2010, 02:01 PM
Hell no. I'm a bigger gear whore than almost anyone on these boards. I ran PMags on my last tour as well....but purely out of curiosity....not because my issued mags ever failed me.
Up until recently I had 4 and half different sets of fighting order.

SMGLee
08-05-2010, 02:28 PM
Any word on when Monte's releasing those FF rails?

Monty have a pre-order going right now.

price is listed as follow...

retail / pre-buy
7in 199.95 / 169.95
9in 219.95 / 189.95
10in 234.95 / 199.95
12in 254.95 / 224.95

You can contact him off his web site www.centurionarms.com

Kilo1-1
08-05-2010, 07:07 PM
Good to know, thanks for the info.

punchinout
08-05-2010, 07:40 PM
Mind the crappy phone pic my camera got lost when i moved last week. This is my new build. BCM parts. 16inch Middy barrel. All I'm missing is a hand-guard and a gasblock(which will arrive from Brownells tomorrow). I'm planning on this being an SPR-ish upper.


Gaijin, i too am looking at the TRX!! The standard 13 inch model though.

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 08:04 PM
Looks good, Punch!

What are your plans, in terms of sights?

I'm thinking of the LMT fixed A2-style sights, to use until i can afford decent optics, then when I get something (perhaps an Aimpoint or ACOG), transfer the iron sights to my 16" carbine and use the Magpul BUIS that's currently on the carbine for the new rifle.

punchinout
08-05-2010, 08:08 PM
Looks good, Punch!

What are your plans, in terms of sights?

Thanks! I'm gonna throw a set of MBUS sights on there and when i get the funds, I'm planning on getting a Millett DMS-1. And even later on down the road when funds allow i'll build another lower for it.

Wake27
08-05-2010, 08:17 PM
Thanks! I'm gonna throw a set of MBUS sights on there and when i get the funds, I'm planning on getting a Millett DMS-1. And even later on down the road when funds allow i'll build another lower for it.

I love my MBUS so much.

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 08:44 PM
I love my MBUS so much.

x2. Very reasonably priced, too.

punchinout
08-05-2010, 08:45 PM
I love my MBUS so much.

Me too. I went through a few different backup irons before i settled on the MBUS on my carbine and definitely can't wait to get some for the new build.

gaijinsamurai
08-05-2010, 09:02 PM
I gotta say, in terms of quality and price, Magpul is one of my favorite companies. The MOE/MIAD grips, MBUS, and magazines have been of great quality, and I'm looking forward to replacing the M4-style stock on my carbine with a CTR and getting an ACS for my current project.

H2O MAN
08-05-2010, 09:09 PM
Very cool, is that a ultimak rail?

Thanks, both the gas tube and lower tri-rail are UltiMAK.






And by the way: Awesome looking AK H2O.

Thank you!

H2O MAN
08-05-2010, 09:15 PM
Yeah the airsoft pellets had me laughing. H20 Man, I got my sage stock in the mail today and it's a thing of beauty. The copper finish isn't as severe as the picture on the website makes out. Before I can go close to it with my M1A, I have to have a gunsmith fix the stock, but I was having a look at the instructions. It looks rather involved, way more so than I was thinking when they say that it's just a "drop in". They talk about having to take off various parts, including the flash supressor. My M1A Scout has a muzzle brake, not a suppressor, did you have to take yours off for this? I'm thinking of maybe just giving everything over to the gunsmith and having them take care of all of it.

That's great news! I had the guys over at Clyde Armory install my 1st one, but I've installed all of the others myself.

Removing and replacing the op rod guide is the big hurdle, everything else is fairly simple if you have the proper tools.

I had a brake at first and replaced it with a GI flash hider and then SEI's GLFS & DC Vortex.

Roy Batty
08-05-2010, 09:38 PM
I'm eyeballing McMillan stocks for M14s.....but man they cost a ton up here (so does Sage)

rhino
08-06-2010, 12:24 AM
depressing, im still working on my Lee Enfield :( got to finish before bear seson

Niels
08-07-2010, 12:59 PM
I didn't even know all that was legal in Luxembourg. Very nice collection.

IDF_TANKER
08-07-2010, 01:03 PM
Is that Micro-Galil, second from left?

Horna
08-07-2010, 01:08 PM
Way cool collection... :)

theholeinthedonut
08-07-2010, 01:19 PM
I didn't even know all that was legal in Luxembourg. Very nice collection.
We have quite liberal gun laws indeed.

Is that Micro-Galil, second from left?
Yes it is.

gaijinsamurai
08-07-2010, 01:23 PM
Thanks, Hole. Looking at your collection always leaves me a little short of breath.

Kinda like some people are with ****.

IDF_TANKER
08-07-2010, 01:28 PM
Now you only need a Tavor and you're all set.

theholeinthedonut
08-07-2010, 01:32 PM
Now you only need a Tavor and you're all set.

There was one I could have gotten last year...but it was very very very expensive:-(
They are hard to find over here.

IDF_TANKER
08-07-2010, 01:37 PM
There was one I could have gotten last year...but it was very very very expensive:-(
They are hard to find over here.

Sorry to hear, man.

He219
08-07-2010, 02:58 PM
Wohoa! I hyperventilated a bit after looking at your collection, theholeinthedonut!
Very nice.... Been a while since we've seen them but I don't remember the MG3 or UK Vz.59
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8748/drool3.gif

Hollis
08-07-2010, 03:17 PM
I emptied the gun vaults this morning.


Very Impressive.

KoTeMoRe
08-07-2010, 04:59 PM
You got a Vz.59. I'm in awe.

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 05:31 AM
Ok, I've been offered 3 guns, the same price, They all are in great shape, but I simply cannot choose, help me out here
N°1: Lee-enfield N°1 MK III factory repair 1950
N°2: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Longbranch 1943
N°3: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Savage 1942

All numbers are matching no visible quality difference

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 10:49 AM
If it were me, I'd try to find a way to be able to get all three. I bought my first Enfield (a No.4 MKI) in 1995, and now have four of them and would like more.

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 11:27 AM
of course but at the moment I only have room for one more gun, and running low on money

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 11:29 AM
I suppose it's all a matter of personal preference. You say they're all in the same condition? If the No.1 has been ****nal refurbished it MIGHT be of lower value (hard to say-do the #s match on the parts?).

Are you looking to get the rifle as a collector's piece or as something to shoot?

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 11:36 AM
all numbers on all models are matching, and they are all ready to shoot, I just can't decide that is the problem, if I could I would just take them all, So just say something that gives one of the models an advantage so I can finally decide what to do

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 11:53 AM
Believe me, Pandemonium: I would be in the same dilemna as you!!! I don't think i could choose just one either!!!

Okay: Do you have a general preference for WWII vs. pre-WWII military history? That might influence your decision.
Do you have more of an interest in Canadian vs. American small arms? That might influence whether you'd prefer the Longbranch over the Savage.

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 12:18 PM
Problem is solving itself, soemone else offered €750 for the MKIII, I love enfields but there is a limit, it will between the savage and the longbranch, I think I'm going Savage

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 12:24 PM
I'm going to recommend the Savage, just for the sake of insulting the Canadians on this forum. :)



btw: that's a lot of money, Pan! I can see why you are only able to buy one of them!

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 12:32 PM
You'll now be required to join this group http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/group.php?groupid=54 , Pandemonium!

Hollis
08-08-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm going to recommend the Savage, just for the sake of insulting the Canadians on this forum. :)



btw: that's a lot of money, Pan! I can see why you are only able to buy one of them!

You could have told him to get a 1910 Ross. ;)

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 12:39 PM
According to many authorities in the subject of military small arms, the 1910 Ross is widely considered to be the high-point in the evolution of Canadian firearms development.



;)

Roy Batty
08-08-2010, 01:28 PM
Gawddamned Yanks......

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 01:34 PM
I knew one of you would sniff out this thread.....

Hollis
08-08-2010, 01:42 PM
I could not find a photo of my Ross, really nice rifle. Too precision made of the trench warfare.

Roy Batty
08-08-2010, 02:00 PM
Trying to decide what to do with my M14 stock. It was painted by the previous owner so I can either re-paint it myself or send it for Water Transfer Imaging.....http://www.cobraimaging.com/photos/image.php?ID=1696&album=237

Laworkerbee
08-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Ok, I've been offered 3 guns, the same price, They all are in great shape, but I simply cannot choose, help me out here
N°1: Lee-enfield N°1 MK III factory repair 1950
N°2: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Longbranch 1943
N°3: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Savage 1942

All numbers are matching no visible quality difference

N°2: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Longbranch 1943
^This one only because I've always wanted one.

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 03:10 PM
Why do you hate America, Bee?

Is it because you're from California?

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 03:11 PM
Trying to decide what to do with my M14 stock. It was painted by the previous owner so I can either re-paint it myself or send it for Water Transfer Imaging.....http://www.cobraimaging.com/photos/image.php?ID=1696&album=237

To be honest with you Roy, I kinda like the way it is already.

Roy Batty
08-08-2010, 03:14 PM
Well it should be here next week. I'll wait till I see her in person to decide....

LineDoggie
08-08-2010, 03:16 PM
You could have told him to get a 1910 Ross. ;)
A Ross? Why not tell him to have a friend Pound a steel ingot through his forehead, in the end its quicker and cheaper with the same experience.

Laworkerbee
08-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Why do you hate America, Bee?

Is it because you're from California?

When I mention that my No. 1 Mk III is nearly 100 years old people here sigh in relief as if her age renders her a nice collectable. My No.4 Savage was ruined by a 1944 POF surplus round that decided to never leave the barrel, I got the round removed eventually but the barrel is shot.

I really want a Canuck made Enfield.

Roy Batty
08-08-2010, 03:28 PM
.......I really want a Canuck made Enfield.

The man knows quality.......;)

LineDoggie
08-08-2010, 03:30 PM
My B.S.A. No.1,Mk III * was made in 1916 and still shoots like a beauty.

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 03:32 PM
When I mention that my No. 1 Mk III is nearly 100 years old people here sigh in relief as if her age renders her a nice collectable. My No.4 Savage was ruined by a 1944 POF surplus round that decided to never leave the barrel, I got the round removed eventually but the barrel is shot.

I really want a Canuck made Enfield.

Actually, I would like to have Savage, Longbranch, and Lithgow models to add to my Enfield collection.

(Don't tell anyone......)

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 03:43 PM
btw: a friend of mine who was in my Canadian WWII reenacting group had a bunch of Enfields, including Lithgows and Longbranches, available for new reenactors for $100 each. They were in "good-very good" condition, and could have easily been sold for three or four times that. I asked him about buying a couple of them recently, but he said they're all gone. Too bad...:(

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 03:45 PM
btw: Anyone else see the "Barska" advertisement at the top of this page? Is that a stupid looking AR or what?

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 03:45 PM
this why you should never think twice about buying an enfield, all three are sold, damn

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 03:53 PM
Damn, that sucks, Pandemonium.

wiking
08-08-2010, 05:43 PM
We have quite liberal gun laws indeed.



Is it difficult for someone to move to Luxembourg and become a citizen?
How's the gun politics, any bastards trying to take them away?

It's allways nice to have somewhere to go if we ever become gunlaw-refugees p-)

Hollis
08-08-2010, 06:08 PM
A Ross? Why not tell him to have a friend Pound a steel ingot through his forehead, in the end its quicker and cheaper with the same experience.


My understanding that is from improper assembly of the bolt. I have two other straight pulls, Swiss and a Hungarian.

Arnie100
08-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Ok, I've been offered 3 guns, the same price, They all are in great shape, but I simply cannot choose, help me out here
N°1: Lee-enfield N°1 MK III factory repair 1950
N°2: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Longbranch 1943
N°3: Lee-enfield N°4 MK I Savage 1942

All numbers are matching no visible quality difference

Do you have a way of getting all three? :)

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 06:15 PM
Hungarian? can you see that a Steyr m95 was Hungarian ?
also, theholeinthedonut, very nice collection, since free trade of arms (if those models are allowed in the country) is possible within the borders of the Benelux, if you ever have any arms that are classified HDF in Belgium, know I might be interested

gaijinsamurai
08-08-2010, 07:33 PM
Do you have a way of getting all three? :)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?31887-Lets-see-the-firearm-collection.....&p=5121909&viewfull=1#post5121909

wiking
08-08-2010, 07:59 PM
if you ever have any arms that are classified HDF in Belgium, know I might be interested

Just because i'm qurious, what is HDF and what kind of guns does it cover?

Pandemonium
08-08-2010, 08:41 PM
ah, it means Historic, Decorative and Folkloristic rifles, there is an exception in Belgium for some rifles, something like the antique status of rifles in the USA, that can be purchased without a license (but you do need a license for obtaining ammo, and getting a license isn't cheap it takes a lot of paperwork and time (it takes about a year) and lasts only for 5 years)
They are rather popular, many Dutch people try to buy them in Belgium
here is a list: http://www.wapenunie.be/files/hfd%20lijst%20bijgewerkt.pdf
I don't have a license for all my guns, it costs you more, and you have very strict orders where to store them and where to keep them

wiking
08-08-2010, 09:13 PM
interesting list, i wish we had something like that here in norway. But thankfully we don't have time limits on our firearms licences, once you've got it there's no re-applying or anything. I do hope we get to keep it like that, they are reviewing the firearms laws now, and i believe time limited licenses are one of the ideas they'll look at. Just another way to make us pay for some under-qualified underling who don't know half the law, who invent their own rules where they don't know them, to push paper around an office.

Clear_blues
08-09-2010, 01:27 AM
btw: Anyone else see the "Barska" advertisement at the top of this page? Is that a stupid looking AR or what?
Saw one very similar to the one pictured for resale in Gander Mt. Made by panther Arms it had the bipod, foregrip, collapsible stock, night vision scope, etc. Looked like a modern warfare gleekster bought an AR and kitted it out to fulfill his fantasy. Must have dropped it cause it was banged up and scratched. low price of $530.

Update on the R597 22 I bought. Took it to the gravel pit again, this time without the missing spring. Had some feeding problems due to the lack of spring, usually the last round in the mag failed to load and I had to **** it again. Burned through about 300+ rounds with around 5 dud rounds, barrel was warm 30 minutes later (could've been the case though). While cleaning the chamber I noticed a chip or hole around a milimeter around which exposed part of the hammer. Did this happen due to built up heat or a defect in the manufacture? The weapon fires fine though.

theholeinthedonut
08-09-2010, 09:19 AM
Hungarian? can you see that a Steyr m95 was Hungarian ?
also, theholeinthedonut, very nice collection, since free trade of arms (if those models are allowed in the country) is possible within the borders of the Benelux, if you ever have any arms that are classified HDF in Belgium, know I might be interested

Check out those sites regulary:

www.arc.lu
www.reloading-center.com

wiking
08-09-2010, 09:40 AM
590 € for a 1928 thompson. If that thing is shootable and not deactivated, there's gonna be yanks crying like little girls when they do the math and realize how little that actually is.

theholeinthedonut
08-09-2010, 10:06 AM
590 € for a 1928 thompson. If that thing is shootable and not deactivated, there's gonna be yanks crying like little girls when they do the math and realize how little that actually is.

They are NIB, still in the original cosmoline grease, fully functional. Lend-lease from the Russkies. Some General getting the funding for his Datcha. ;-)

wiking
08-09-2010, 10:30 AM
Me wants one. Luxembourg has just made the "places i want to live" list. Sounds very civilized.

Hollis
08-09-2010, 10:33 AM
590 € for a 1928 thompson. If that thing is shootable and not deactivated, there's gonna be yanks crying like little girls when they do the math and realize how little that actually is.


There was a bunch imported into the US, sadly they had torched cut receivers. It would great if they were sold as Class III firearms. The people who would cry the most are those currently owning 1928 Thompsons, the market value would probably drop. Americans can not own any FA made after 1986 (???) so these would qualify, also being American made, they would not fall under the 2005 barrel ban.

Pandemonium
08-09-2010, 10:35 AM
Nah, theholeinthedonut, there are better Belgian shops:
http://www.armes-cornet.com/catalogues.htm
http://www.wapenhandelpodevijn.be/catalogus.html (this one isn't cheap at all, but he has a lot of beautyfulll stuff)

wiking
08-09-2010, 10:40 AM
They banned importation as far back as '68. Atleast up untill '86 they could import them as parts kits, build new ones and register them as transferable NFA guns.

Has the ban on barrels been active that long? I've only recently started to see references to it around the internet. But that's probably just the lag as kits with barrels were used up.

What's the going rate for a 1928 thompson in the US now? 25-30K?

Hollis
08-09-2010, 10:45 AM
The barrel ban started in Sept 2005, I believe. There are still firearm kit available with the original barrels that came into the US prior that date. Anything else has a American made barrel.

Yes, Thompson are around that price.

Sten guns, that I saw at a gun show was about $3500.00 each. Every year they go up in value.

Some states have bans on anything automatic, kits included. Also Kits assembled have to be legal under NFA, either conversion to closed bolt semi auto only or as dummies.

theholeinthedonut
08-09-2010, 11:51 AM
Nah, theholeinthedonut, there are better Belgian shops:
http://www.armes-cornet.com/catalogues.htm
http://www.wapenhandelpodevijn.be/catalogus.html (this one isn't cheap at all, but he has a lot of beautyfulll stuff)

ARC puts on new stuff at least twice a month, as soon as something is sold he takes it from his webpage.Cornet is not bad but he has nothing more to offer then ARC. Podewijn is a crook, his prices are 3 to 4 times higher then what you pay here. On some of the guns he wins 3000% that's not what I need.

Pandemonium
08-09-2010, 11:56 AM
the only limitation for me is the calibers that are allowed in the local shooting club, they only allow .22, so not much luck there, but you've caught my interest, it looks like I've got a border to cross, it has been a long time since I've been in Luxemburg, almost 8years now.

wiking
08-09-2010, 12:07 PM
There's just so many guns, and so little time. And i want them all.

http://www.armes-cornet.com/catalogues_panoplie.htm

I think i want them all.

Hollis
08-09-2010, 12:11 PM
There's just so many guns, and so little time. And i want them all.

http://www.armes-cornet.com/catalogues_panoplie.htm

I think i want them all.


I don't think you are alone in wanting them. There are beauties at that site

wiking
08-09-2010, 12:19 PM
hell yes. The tranter carbine is defenitely fascinating, but the duelling pistols are facking nice. And the Galand revolver looks fascinating. reminds me of a US contemporary of the Colt SAA called Melwin & Huelbert, but the Galand seems to predate it going by the 1868 date on it.

Hawkeye65
08-09-2010, 10:43 PM
Anybody got any opinions or heard any good things about the Sig Sauer SP2022? The local gun shop here has a special on them for $400 in 9mm. If they are good guns I was thinking about picking one up shortly. My main motivation for getting the weapon is to use it for CC. Right now I'm saving up for a Walther PPS and my patience is slowly wearing thin. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to come saving up for the PPS. I've got enough to get the 2022 now and in a few months I will have enough to get a PPS. So should I wait for the PPS, seeing as my main motivation for getting this handgun is concealed carry or is the 2022 a good option?

Clear_blues
08-10-2010, 12:14 AM
Anybody got any opinions or heard any good things about the Sig Sauer SP2022? The local gun shop here has a special on them for $400 in 9mm. If they are good guns I was thinking about picking one up shortly. My main motivation for getting the weapon is to use it for CC. Right now I'm saving up for a Walther PPS and my patience is slowly wearing thin. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to come saving up for the PPS. I've got enough to get the 2022 now and in a few months I will have enough to get a PPS. So should I wait for the PPS, seeing as my main motivation for getting this handgun is concealed carry or is the 2022 a good option?
I've read "rave" reviews about the Sig model, I have also heard that production was discontinued. Sending you a review I found online.

Bro Jangles
08-10-2010, 12:16 AM
a Sig for 400 bucks? damn.

Wake27
08-10-2010, 01:44 AM
Sigs are usually solid handguns IIRC. Not sure about that model though, I don't pay a whole lot of attention to them. SEALs seem to like them though. That's gotta count for something.

Yarrick2
08-10-2010, 02:09 AM
a Sig for 400 bucks? damn.
DGS just got a bunch of former german police 225's and they're selling them for ~$395. the one i saw looked like it just had a bunch of holster wear on it.

Hawkeye65
08-10-2010, 10:39 AM
a Sig for 400 bucks? damn.
The SP2022 has a polymer frame just like the P250, so its cheaper than an aluminum framed Sig like the 226. I think the Sp2022 normally retails for something around $600.

TacoDelRio
08-10-2010, 06:47 PM
Used police SIG > SIG SP series

$0.02

LineDoggie
08-10-2010, 07:50 PM
Sigs are usually solid handguns IIRC. Not sure about that model though, I don't pay a whole lot of attention to them. SEALs seem to like them though. That's gotta count for something.
NYPD issued Sigs as one of the carry choices and had to have them recalled, something about a finish issue, the slides were rusting like mad in the issue leather holsters. Only time I've ever heard anything bad about a Sig.

Virus
08-10-2010, 08:51 PM
Used police SIG > SIG SP series

$0.02

Tis what I have, a detective turn in of a p229 in 40.....mmmmmmm

He219
08-10-2010, 11:05 PM
Just finished my latest two black rifles .. (bit of distortion with my p&s)http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9600/dsc03791st.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1839/dsc03796d.jpg

TOP:

Barrel: 16" MK12 SOCOM 416R Stainless Recce, 1/7 twist, Mid-Length Gas System 5.56 NATO
- Chamber optimized for use with MK262 (Black Hills 77gr equivalent)
- Surefire MB556K Muzzle Brake
- M4 extended feed ramps

Upper: VLTOR Rifle Length VIS-3-AK
- Colt Full Auto Bolt Carrier Group
- Pinned Low Profile Gas Block
- VLTOR/BCM Gunfighter Mod.4 Charging Handle
- KAC Micro Front Flip Up Sight
- KAC Micro Rear 200-600 BUIS (in the mail)
- KAC 11 Rib Panels

Lower: Kaiser Defense San Diego Cal Bear OLL
- Magpul MIAD Grip Full Kit
- Magpul MOE Polymer Trigger Guard
- LMT Ambi Selector
- Geissele SSA Trigger Assembly
- KNS Non-Rotating Gen 2 Mod 2 Trigger and Hammer Pins
- Prince50 Bullet Button (CA Compliance Part)

Stock: Magpul UBR
- H1 Carbine Buffer
- JagerTroop Strike Plate
- LMT Heavy Duty QD Push Button Swivel

Magazine: Magpul PMag (CA Compliant 10/20)

Optic: Trijicon TR-24 Green with 3-Gun Stuff Cat Tail Throw Lever

Weight: 9lbs. 6oz. (with unloaded magazine attached) weighed using pocket scale

Future:
- Optic to be replaced with Leupold MR/T Mark 4 Rifle Scope 1.5-5X 20 Sabot Ballistics Reticle Matte 30mm Illuminated Reticle 67905 (pending funds)
- VLTOR ModPod


BOTTOM:

Barrel:
- Centurion Arms FN Made Cold Hammer Forged Light Weight 16" 5.56 NATO
- 1:7 RHT Extra thick Chrome lining
- M4 extended feed ramps
- tapered bore
- Mil Spec Phosphate finish
- Pinned Low Profile Gas Block

Upper:
- VLTOR Rifle Length VIS-3-AK
- Colt Full Auto Bolt Carrier Group
- VLTOR/BCM Gunfighter Mod.4 Charging Handle
- KAC 11 Rib Panels
- Magpul Rail Ladders
- Magpul AFG

Lower:
- Eagle Arms Model J-15 Registered California Assault Weapon
- Yesterday's Airbrush Duracoat VLTOR Black finish
- LMT Ambi Selector to be Battle Arms Ambi Selector soon
- Magpul MIAD Grip Full Kit
- Magpul MOE Polymer Trigger Guard
- Geissele SSA Trigger Assembly
- KNS Non-Rotating Gen 3 Mod 2 Trigger and Hammer Pins

Stock:
- VLTOR Seven-Position EMod
(http://www.valkyrietactical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1631)- VLTOR A5 Buffer System
- Magpul ASAP Sling Mount

Magazine: Magpul Windowmag 30 rnd PMag

Optic: Aimpoint Micro T-1 on LaRue LT660 QD

Light: Surefire X300

Weight: 7lbs. 11oz. (with unloaded magazine attached) weighed using pocket scale

Future: Magpul MBUS

Kilo1-1
08-10-2010, 11:19 PM
Hot....nice builds, He219!

He219
08-10-2010, 11:21 PM
Thanks Kilo, the ****ty light doesn't give them credit ...

Here's another take of the Recce:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/676/recce81010.jpg

Chen, thanks for hookin' me up!

gaijinsamurai
08-10-2010, 11:23 PM
Very nice rifles, HE219!

How do you like the Geissele triggers?

He219
08-10-2010, 11:28 PM
Thanks, Gaijin!
Don't know yet .. gonna find out in Jason Falla's class this weekend!

gaijinsamurai
08-10-2010, 11:29 PM
I'm looking forward to a range report, HE!

Hollis
08-11-2010, 12:03 AM
HE very nice rifles. Thanks.

HK in AK
08-11-2010, 12:08 AM
Very nice rifle.................They look like they can perform very well. congrats!

TacoDelRio
08-11-2010, 12:35 AM
I forsee more boolit tiem in t3h desert.

sergey31
08-11-2010, 07:07 AM
Here's another take of the Recce:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/676/recce81010.jpg


Pretty NICE rifle.
Have you shot it yet? I was looking at similar muzzle break but read somewhere that it's over 170db, that you would need 2 sets of hearing protection.

USMC29
08-11-2010, 12:54 PM
Here's another take of the Recce:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/676/recce81010.jpg


http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o315/usmc29_photos/DoWant.jpg
...............

gafkiwi
08-11-2010, 01:59 PM
Pretty NICE rifle.
Have you shot it yet? I was looking at similar muzzle break but read somewhere that it's over 170db, that you would need 2 sets of hearing protection.

We're getting similar ones on our Steyr upgrades at work, Bloody nice to shoot with over the standard flashsuppressor, Zero movement/Jump on firing, Sucks to be a coach off to the flanks though. Thankfully a limited issue of suppressors should also help.

Stukka 44
08-11-2010, 03:08 PM
133185
Here's a picture of my baby :)

It's a SIG 551 SWAT. It has a Brügger & Thomet tactical 4-rail handguard, B&T picatinny rail on top, Surefire vertical fore-grip weaponlight and a Hogue universal grip sleeve.
Next up: Aimpoint or Eotech and Magpul XTM rail panels.p-)

He219
08-11-2010, 09:56 PM
Beautiful baby, Stukka 44!
I've always liked the SiG 551 ...
Now you need to get a can for that SBR!!
;)

Laworkerbee
08-11-2010, 10:04 PM
Thanks Kilo, the ****ty light doesn't give them credit ...

Here's another take of the Recce:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/676/recce81010.jpg

Chen, thanks for hookin' me up!

I'm speechless! I demand 5 minutes of alone time with her.


Thanks, Gaijin!
Don't know yet .. gonna find out in Jason Falla's class this weekend!

You're going too eh? Well I happen to be in Orange Co. right now and will be all weekend.
I wonder if they allow observers? My gear is all in storage at the moment.

Hollis
08-11-2010, 10:46 PM
I'm speechless! I demand 5 minutes of alone time with her.



She needs a more experience man, I love her long time. I would need several months and cases of ammo.

Laworkerbee
08-11-2010, 10:48 PM
She needs a more experience man, I love her long time. I would need several months and cases of ammo.

You'd bore her with stories about what life was like before there was a forward assist and how she'd look so much better with a three ****g flash suppressor.
:)

theholeinthedonut
08-12-2010, 01:26 AM
She needs a more experience man, I love her long time. I would need several months and cases of ammo.


You'd bore her with stories about what life was like before there was a forward assist and how she'd look so much better with a three ****g flash suppressor.
:)

I just spilled my coffee...thanks guys rofl

Nice guns HE219 & Stuka44!!

KillerBD
08-12-2010, 01:28 AM
You'd bore her with stories about what life was like before there was a forward assist and how she'd look so much better with a three ****g flash suppressor.
:)

Aren't you from California? You only get 3.5 minutes with her... That's all you need... ;)

gaijinsamurai
08-12-2010, 01:30 AM
Bee would pimp her all out with gold and silver inlays of the Virgin of Guadelupe and the Mexican Eagle w/ snake in it's mouth.

Kilo1-1
08-12-2010, 02:06 AM
You'd bore her with stories about what life was like before there was a forward assist and how she'd look so much better with a three ****g flash suppressor.
:)

lol, good one. I spilled my drink on that one.

Bro Jangles
08-12-2010, 02:07 AM
Great news, i got a call from the gunstore i was interested in working at, asking for my resume.

Kilo1-1
08-12-2010, 02:10 AM
Awesome, lots of good stuff there?

Bro Jangles
08-12-2010, 02:14 AM
Awesome, lots of good stuff there?
oh... its like the gun Mecca of eastern washington.

Kilo1-1
08-12-2010, 02:18 AM
Uh oh, that's good and bad for you, isn't it, haha.

Bro Jangles
08-12-2010, 02:21 AM
Uh oh, that's good and bad for you, isn't it, haha.my buddy who works there, and i hope to replace, got a HK USP .45 compact for 450. im considering getting paid in store credit.

oh and they are also a range, and run IPSC

Kilo1-1
08-12-2010, 02:32 AM
Pretty sweet deal/set up they got running there. Sounds like a good place to work at bro.

gaijinsamurai
08-12-2010, 02:38 AM
Good for you, BJ!

theholeinthedonut
08-12-2010, 02:43 AM
my buddy who works there, and i hope to replace, got a HK USP .45 compact for 450. im considering getting paid in store credit.

oh and they are also a range, and run IPSC

That would be my downfall....the kids would starve......;-)

Bro Jangles
08-12-2010, 02:47 AM
That would be my downfall....the kids would starve......;-)
at school, all ill need is Food, booze, ammo, and gas. so it will be golden.

T3ngu
08-12-2010, 03:23 AM
Sadly, this is all i have to offer at the moment. Went to the farm and ran a few rounds out. Turns out shes shooting to the left.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj249/tengu22/IMG_1551.jpg

theholeinthedonut
08-12-2010, 03:28 AM
at school, all ill need is Food, booze, ammo, and gas. so it will be golden.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310/theholeinthedonut/living-the-dream.jpg

Bro Jangles
08-12-2010, 06:17 AM
i am amazingly jealous. i could only own that with a gay 16inch barrel, which would be wrong.

wiking
08-12-2010, 06:29 AM
i am amazingly jealous. i could only own that with a gay 16inch barrel, which would be wrong.

And semi-auto, mustn't forget that it wouldn't have the fun switch ;)

But no SBR??

Bro Jangles
08-12-2010, 06:37 AM
no FA, SBRs in Washington.

gaijinsamurai
08-12-2010, 11:22 AM
That is a sweet AKSU, Hole!

He219
08-12-2010, 09:31 PM
That is a sweet AKSU, Hole!
x2; beautiful bugger you've got there!
What make is it; Bulgy or Russian?

V.B.I.E.D.
08-12-2010, 10:44 PM
My midlength AR and the wife's SCAR:

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/_MacGyver-/EditA.jpg

Where the heck did you pick up a SCAR? I would love to own one.

wildcat
08-12-2010, 10:46 PM
MacGyver

can you operated and fire the scar with the butt folded?

gaijinsamurai
08-12-2010, 10:58 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?184326-United-States-opposes-ROK-s-reexporting-M1-Garand-and-Carbine

I am so pissed off right now. I'm ready to be a Teapartier, and I'm a Democrat!

V.B.I.E.D.
08-12-2010, 11:01 PM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?184326-United-States-opposes-ROK-s-reexporting-M1-Garand-and-Carbine

I am so pissed off right now. I'm ready to be a Teapartier, and I'm a Democrat!

Welcome to the Republican Party! But really, this is just a way for them to limit our right to bear arms before eventually taking it away. Or at least trying to.

Mein Teil
08-12-2010, 11:01 PM
[url]... and I'm a Democrat!

...now I know the truth about you:oops:

gaijinsamurai
08-12-2010, 11:04 PM
I was originally a Republican, and switched to the Dems after the Christian fundamentalists took over Oregon's GOP in 1991. Time to come back.

Kilo1-1
08-12-2010, 11:23 PM
I was originally a Republican, and switched to the Dems after the Christian fundamentalists took over Oregon's GOP in 1991. Time to come back.


I was originally a Republican, and switched to the Dems after the Christian fundamentalists took over Oregon's GOP in 1991. Time to come back.

When I get pissed at both parties, I just choose to be Independent and support neither. Going Dems just seemed too difficult with some of their ideas/agenda...

trunk_munkey28
08-13-2010, 12:01 AM
Hey if any of you start thinking that the US's gun laws suck, I'd gladly switch places and collections with any of you.
In Canada
All firearms registered in one of three categories: non-restricted (hunting rifles, bolt action long arms, civvy stuff), restricted (AR 15, etc. All the black scary stuff), and prohibited (the really cool, full auto, etc, scary black stuff and handguns under a certain bbl length).
Mandatory storage laws for all.
5 round magazine capacity for any centrefire semi auto rifle.
Need provincial authority to transport restricted and prohib, can only go from residence to range, gunsmith, or border crossing.
Restricted can only be fired on a provincially approved range, prohib can't be fired at all.

The only cool thing I can really see is that once a rifle is on the restricted list its bbl length doesn't matter, no NFA rules for SBR, etc, but all the gay stuff outweighs it.

Oh, and our prices on firearms accessories typically run 150 to 200% of US prices. For example, a $14 PMAG would run about $30 Cdn. A lower parts kit is about $100 for run of the mill parts, DPMS, RRA, etc.

Oh, and don't even think about open or concealed carry. We do have a concealed license, but the last one for self defense was issued to a Hell's Angel who turned RCMP informant.

theholeinthedonut
08-13-2010, 12:26 AM
x2; beautiful bugger you've got there!
What make is it; Bulgy or Russian?

It's a Russian from Tula. I was very lucky to get one, they are quite hard to find over here. Getting a Bulgarian one is no problem, but the Russkies are hard to find & it came at a very ood price.

gaijinsamurai
08-13-2010, 12:32 AM
Hey if any of you start thinking that the US's gun laws suck, I'd gladly switch places and collections with any of you.
In Canada
All firearms registered in one of three categories: non-restricted (hunting rifles, bolt action long arms, civvy stuff), restricted (AR 15, etc. All the black scary stuff), and prohibited (the really cool, full auto, etc, scary black stuff and handguns under a certain bbl length).
Mandatory storage laws for all.
5 round magazine capacity for any centrefire semi auto rifle.
Need provincial authority to transport restricted and prohib, can only go from residence to range, gunsmith, or border crossing.
Restricted can only be fired on a provincially approved range, prohib can't be fired at all.

The only cool thing I can really see is that once a rifle is on the restricted list its bbl length doesn't matter, no NFA rules for SBR, etc, but all the gay stuff outweighs it.

Oh, and our prices on firearms accessories typically run 150 to 200% of US prices. For example, a $14 PMAG would run about $30 Cdn. A lower parts kit is about $100 for run of the mill parts, DPMS, RRA, etc.

Oh, and don't even think about open or concealed carry. We do have a concealed license, but the last one for self defense was issued to a Hell's Angel who turned RCMP informant.

There are plenty of politicians and left-wing activists who would like us to have similar laws, or even worse. That's why I'm an NRA member.

And if people like Supreme Court Justice Kagan think we're anything like the Ku Klux Klan, she can kiss my part-Cherokee ass!

Mousepad
08-13-2010, 12:35 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?184326-United-States-opposes-ROK-s-reexporting-M1-Garand-and-Carbine

I am so pissed off right now. I'm ready to be a Teapartier, and I'm a Democrat!

Well, maybe it's my chance to get my hands on Garand. Always wanted to have classic American gun for reasonable money.

Hawkeye65
08-13-2010, 12:36 AM
Where the heck did you pick up a SCAR? I would love to own one.
Try your local gunshops. I know one around here has 2 SCAR 16S and 1 SCAR 17S. The 17S isnt for sale its just a demo.

Then again you can do what I did and get an internship at FN Manufacturing and get to handle the Mk.16, Mk.17, Mk.20 as well as the rest of the FN military lot all day. It's a blast and you get to meet a lot of cool people as well.

TacoDelRio
08-13-2010, 01:04 AM
I was originally a Republican, and switched to the Dems after the Christian fundamentalists took over Oregon's GOP in 1991. Time to come back.

You're part of a political party? You must think there's still hope.

gaijinsamurai
08-13-2010, 01:12 AM
I feel that it is still my responsibility to be knowledgable of current political issues, know where candidates stand on those issues, have some knowledge of their qualifications backgrounds, and vote for the one I think may be the best. There have been several elections where I didn't bother to vote, but being a member of one of the parties gives us the ability to at least take part in primaries. As someone who's political leanings can best be described as "moderate', I would prefer to limit the influence of the fringe elements of both the Dems and GOP.

Hollis
08-13-2010, 10:39 AM
Very nice Hole...........

sergey31
08-13-2010, 10:49 AM
When I get pissed at both parties, I just choose to be Independent and support neither. Going Dems just seemed too difficult with some of their ideas/agenda...

Don't want to start anything and please don't think I'm forcing my view but I do believe that your Independent vote will count as +1 for Democrats.

There's a lot of people who think that being something different then the 2 major parties will make a difference. It won't, you will split republican vote and help keep Democrats in power. History has shown this to be the case and even left wing democrats are preaching and hoping for all of you to do just that.

Like it or not but there's only 2 real choices and voting something different will count toward one of them and this won't be changing anytime soon.


Some pics of my newly refinished 91/30, originally it was red or orange in color.
One coat of stain and two of blond shellac.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image2pu.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/IMGP5432pu.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image5pu.jpg