Combat Questions....

[whoreable]

ARMY IFANTRY 11b.

a. Can you spray paint your weapon when in IRAQ?
b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
c. To what extent can your LBV's be modified?
d. Do you remember your first fire fight?

[FallenAngel]

ARMY IFANTRY 11b.

a. Can you spray paint your weapon when in IRAQ?
b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
c. To what extent can your LBV's be modified?
d. Do you remember your first fire fight?

Not in the Army, but I'll take a stab at it.

a- probably not
b- probably not unless there's no other option
c- i dont know
d- i don't see how one wouldn't remember, unless it was so utterly tramatizing you mentally blocked it out in which case it's probably better you didn't remember it.

[para504]

a. No
b. No
c. You can get the high speed straps at Ranger Joes or where ever and they do have different pouches you can buy and sometimes issued to stuff all your crap into, however most infantry if not all are now being issued the new vests

[digrar]

b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
Would you ditch your perfectly good weapon that is zeroed to you, for a weapon that isn't and probably only has a few rounds in the one mag that is attached to the weapon?

[whoreable]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.

[FallenAngel]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.

Not if you clean it properly and regularily.

[MEGR]

Actually, I hear that the grunts on the ground like the m16a4. Can anyone with experience help a brotha out?

I've fired both an AK and AR (civilian versions). Both are good guns, but I'd take an AR any day. Just my opinion.

[dghost]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.


rrriiiggghhhtttt....

have you ever acctually used either rifle?

[callous]

Did you have to clean your m16a4 daily? Is it sand or dirt or both that causes the problem?

[dghost]

Did you have to clean your m16a4 daily? Is it sand or dirt or both that causes the problem?

you always want to do inspections and maintenance on all equipment both before and after missions - your rifle is just one piece of equipment that you have. we usually just broke them down and wiped them off, with maybe once a week being a true cleaning. it just all depended on what you were doing and how abused your rifle got while going it.

[FallenAngel]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.


rrriiiggghhhtttt....

have you ever acctually used either rifle?

Airsoft doesn't count either btw. ;)

[PrincessRAR]

That is one thing that really pisses me off about this forum,
know nothings offering opinions.

I have read many a topic on here about how crap the styer is, and its not, I can assure you the M-16 is not either.

All this bull**** about an Ak, it is a whole another weapon system altogether!!
All Australian Infantry and SF are trained on teh Ak, it is not something that you just pick up and use - besides as Digrar said - its not zerod for you and if you have to use it for an emergency how many rounds are in it - its all 7.62 not 5.56!!

So unless you can really answer this mans questions dont post.

from an aussie point of view

a - no (weapons tape is not even allowed now!!) ( bit different from ol Timor aye digrar)
b - no
c - yes, Australia has relaxed its stance on what you HAVE to use as per LBE. (many guys now using chest harnesses and vests - alot liek myself still stay with the ol modified issue webbing)
d - yes - and although differnt to other im sure (even the actual combat stage - it was actually a really calm time.
Everything was just an automatic procedure and its only now I think about it that I cant really remeber what went on - it is such an automatic process

[MEGR]

I got a question. Is it rude to ask a veteran if they killed anyone? I did it once when I was young, but I stopped after that. The guy didn't have any problems, but as I mature, it's probably not too cool to ask a veteran if they killed somebody.

[PrincessRAR]

Probably not a conversation starter....

Alot of guys are really private about their military carrear.
And something like that is pretty personal, killing someone isnt
really something to boast about, and with alot of people it
severly scars them emotionally.

[whoreable]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.


rrriiiggghhhtttt....

have you ever acctually used either rifle?

Well, I havent tried an AK yet, But I hear its great. I was just making that statement due to my love for the M14 and AKs are also 7.62cal, In my opinion what the M16 should be, or atleast 6.8mm.

But lets not start this fight again, im sure its been here many time tanys.


:) :fork:

[digrar]

It has, but we just love shooting down people who make outlandish comments with no experience to back them up.
Do you realise that the M14 and the AK don't use the same round? And obviously your right about how crap the M4 is, dozens of Armies and SF/SOF units use it but what would they know. :|

[dannyc]

just another aussies opinion. while i agree with PrincessRAR, its a big army and some units do things differently.

a. some fellas have a jack butt group that is cam'd up. so when they go out field, on goes the cam'd butt group and a bit of scrim. when the weapon goes back to the armoury on goes the old, plain butt group. also u can get material covers that arent too bad.

b. ill change this question to, "Can you pick up an enemies weapon in battle to use it?" bloody oath, if i took a MG pit with a PK or something in it, id swing it around onto another pit or what not and let rip. obviously depends on the situation. i just took the question as "are u allowed to". so, yes. but i also agree with digrar and princessRAR about the personal wpns.

c. like PrincessRAR said, but 1RAR have just done a heap of trails, apparently when the new kit gets in u'll have to use issue gear. 'LAND 152 project' from memory?

d. never been in one

[HoboWithAK]

It has, but we just love shooting down people who make outlandish comments with no experience to back them up.
Do you realise that the M14 and the AK don't use the same round? And obviously your right about how crap the M4 is, dozens of Armies and SF/SOF units use it but what would they know. :|

That's the problem with letting everyone on the internet have an opinion.

[dghost]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.


rrriiiggghhhtttt....

have you ever acctually used either rifle?

Well, I havent tried an AK yet, But I hear its great. I was just making that statement due to my love for the M14 and AKs are also 7.62cal, In my opinion what the M16 should be, or atleast 6.8mm.

But lets not start this fight again, im sure its been here many time tanys.


:) :fork:

yes, yes it has. so why bring it up?

[Silverdragon]

I got a question. Is it rude to ask a veteran if they killed anyone? I did it once when I was young, but I stopped after that. The guy didn't have any problems, but as I mature, it's probably not too cool to ask a veteran if they killed somebody.

Its between he vertran and god, its not good to make a habbit of asking people if they have killed in combat.

[Red]

a.No in the army i served in
b.well not really and the reasons have been stated already but if you have no option then.
c.you wear what is issued to you.
d.yes

[11F5S]

Yes, That POS M16a4 jams all the time if you even get the smallest ammount of dirt in it, Kalashnikov has reliability.


rrriiiggghhhtttt....

have you ever acctually used either rifle?

Well, I havent tried an AK yet, But I hear its great. I was just making that statement due to my love for the M14 and AKs are also 7.62cal, In my opinion what the M16 should be, or atleast 6.8mm.

But lets not start this fight again, im sure its been here many time tanys.


:) :fork:

I kept hearing that Linda was a great piece of ass, but after I rode her hard and put her away wet, I found out she wasn't quite what she was made out to be. :(

Never let a little sand stop you from getting laid on the beach. :)

[whoreable]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

[dutch508]

ARMY IFANTRY 11b.

a. Can you spray paint your weapon when in IRAQ?
b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
c. To what extent can your LBV's be modified?
d. Do you remember your first fire fight?


a. No. In your typical Infantry unit you will not be able to do this. Why? Because it's army property. Looking cool is for movies and the girl scouts at Bragg.
b. Yes...and No. In battle if your weapon goes down and there is an AK next to you- pick it up and use it to protect yourself. Again- the M16 is army property. Last time I checked- you are signed for it. Having a 15-6 done on your a$$ isn't alot of fun.
c. To the extent of the 1SG and CSM.
d. Yes.


dutch

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.

[EvanL]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.
excellent post sir

[CG51]

yeah, if the m4 is such a ****ty weapon, why do so many special forces use it? bah, the ak is so popular in the third world because its a low tech weapon that doesn't need any training to maintain or use...an army of conscripts and young children can even use it... :bash:

[Dennis G]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.
excellent post sir

How is this an excellent post?

[dghost]

yeah, if the m4 is such a ****ty weapon, why do so many special forces use it? bah, the ak is so popular in the third world because its a low tech weapon that doesn't need any training to maintain or use...an army of conscripts and young children can even use it... :bash:

... the weapon of choice for poor revolutionaries since it's design ...

[Pongo]

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.

Your opinion?

[Hoplite_V]

whoreable wrote:
ARMY IFANTRY 11b.

a. Can you spray paint your weapon when in IRAQ?
b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
c. To what extent can your LBV's be modified?
d. Do you remember your first fire fight?


Not in the Army, but I'll take a stab at it.

a- probably not
b- probably not unless there's no other option
c- i dont know
d- i don't see how one wouldn't remember, unless it was so utterly tramatizing you mentally blocked it out in which case it's probably better you didn't remember it.

Sorry but what a useless response.

[PrincessRAR]

just another aussies opinion. while i agree with PrincessRAR, its a big army and some units do things differently.

a. some fellas have a jack butt group that is cam'd up. so when they go out field, on goes the cam'd butt group and a bit of scrim. when the weapon goes back to the armoury on goes the old, plain butt group. also u can get material covers that arent too bad.

b. ill change this question to, "Can you pick up an enemies weapon in battle to use it?" bloody oath, if i took a MG pit with a PK or something in it, id swing it around onto another pit or what not and let rip. obviously depends on the situation. i just took the question as "are u allowed to". so, yes. but i also agree with digrar and princessRAR about the personal wpns.

c. like PrincessRAR said, but 1RAR have just done a heap of trails, apparently when the new kit gets in u'll have to use issue gear. 'LAND 152 project' from memory?

d. never been in one


Mate fully agree with everything you said.
And yeah I wait with baited breath over this land warrior project :|
give me a chest rig anyday. Worked fine in timor
And yeah I know what you mean by your (a) post.
But since all th high ups from defence tech and stuff have gone ****s about the cam tape they are negelecting us in their wisdom to put it on now, and yet it worked so well for recon teams in timor (trust me!!)

[Roldwin]

a. No in my army

b. If I'm out of ammo, I don't care what kind of weaponk I pick up, even a rock can kill

c: what "LBV" means???

d. Yes. Some mortar rounds fell about 500 meters from our position. Not as traumatic as I thought

[whoreable]

I just Recieved and Awesome Surefire with Pressure switch and Railmount, would you be able to take that with you to a combat situation?

[Bugalugs]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.
excellent post sir

How is this an excellent post?

I daresay its sarcasm my good sir - a genteel way of saying:

"what a useless f****** post you worthless c*********g m*********r!!!!!"....

or something like that.

I hope.

[PrincessRAR]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.
excellent post sir

How is this an excellent post?

I daresay its sarcasm my good sir - a genteel way of saying:

"what a useless f****** post you worthless c*********g m*********r!!!!!"....

or something like that.

I hope.


Hey you guys should stop bagging Ngati Tumatuenga, from what I've read hes got more experiance then most of you chucks, and what he said here is 100% correct.
Excellent post SIR without sarcasm!!
Keep em righteous Ngati

[Bugalugs]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.
excellent post sir

How is this an excellent post?

I daresay its sarcasm my good sir - a genteel way of saying:

"what a useless f****** post you worthless c*********g m*********r!!!!!"....

or something like that.

I hope.


Hey you guys should stop bagging Ngati Tumatuenga, from what I've read hes got more experiance then most of you chucks, and what he said here is 100% correct.
Excellent post SIR without sarcasm!!
Keep em righteous Ngati

Ngati's a bully. He has it comin'

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Yes, I believe the ak is 7.62x39? But I was saying there both same relative caliber size. .223 is too weak :)

That a fact?
Ballistics expert are you?
Tested the 5.56, 6.8, 7.62 short and long in combat have you?
When did this testing occur?

You're not entitled to an opinion. An opinion is what you have when you don't have the facts. When you have the facts you don't need an opinion.
excellent post sir

How is this an excellent post?

I daresay its sarcasm my good sir - a genteel way of saying:

"what a useless f****** post you worthless c*********g m*********r!!!!!"....

or something like that.

I hope.


Hey you guys should stop bagging Ngati Tumatuenga, from what I've read hes got more experiance then most of you chucks, and what he said here is 100% correct.
Excellent post SIR without sarcasm!!
Keep em righteous Ngati

Ngati's a bully. He has it comin'

Oh wow.....I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight...

No, really I am...

Honest...

rofl

[Flagg]

".223 is too weak"

Not NEARLY as weak as your opinion

I wonder if the fact you have never experienced the joy of humping Gimpy link up a feaure has anything to do with it?

Now I know why Ngati and Digrar are getting cranky in their old age....

damn kids

[Marsuitor]

a. Can you spray paint your weapon when in IRAQ?
b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
c. To what extent can your LBV's be modified?
d. Do you remember your first fire fight?

I'll take a shot from my military's POV;
a. Some of the guys who went to Iraq sprayed their weapon, there was too much going on at the time for the powers to start moaning about ****ty little things like this. As for my location, spraying things like magazines and handrails is no problem. One of the guys in my platoon sprayed his entire rifle, he got a laugh from the platoon commander and was then asked to remove it. Ie. they don't hang you for it...

b. If i run out of ammo, hopefully my mates has more. If not, then there's no reason for not picking up battlefield leftovers. We receive, or are scheduled to receive AK and RPG training over here at some point. That said, normally "if you didn't drop it, don't pick it up" applies.

c. Back home in Norway, no, they are very strict. Once abroad, yes, but exceptions apply. It all depends on your boss really. The general rule is "Norge camo is Norge camo".

d. You don't talk openly about this to strangers, atleast in the Norge armed forces. Same especielly goes for "have you ever killed someone?".

Cheers,
Marcus

[sp2c]

about the AK ...

we are told to 'not eat from the street' chances are it'll be rigged and blow up in your face ... that said if there's absolutely nothing else I can use and people are shooting me I'd go for the AK (but I'd bring my regular weapon with me as well in case I find some ammo for it).

[khukuri]

about the AK ...

we are told to 'not eat from the street' chances are it'll be rigged and blow up in your face ... that said if there's absolutely nothing else I can use and people are shooting me I'd go for the AK (but I'd bring my regular weapon with me as well in case I find some ammo for it).


Was just about to say that. Happend several times in lebanon, and if I remember right it, in the begining of the war they had EOD:s checking up the kalashnikovs that got left before anyone even touching them.

[foxtrot023]

ARMY IFANTRY 11b.

a. Can you spray paint your weapon when in IRAQ?
b. Can you pick up an AK in battle to use it?
c. To what extent can your LBV's be modified?
d. Do you remember your first fire fight?

a. Don´t know, but probly not
b. If there is nothing else you can. Unofficially many do
c. What is a LBV? Light Bullet Vest?
d. Having an AK 47 going into rock and roll mode in my general direction. I can still see it in slow motion.

[whoreable]

I just Recieved and Awesome Surefire with Pressure switch and Railmount, would you be able to take that with you to a combat situation?


anyone

[burnt by the sun]

Actually, I hear that the grunts on the ground like the m16a4. Can anyone with experience help a brotha out?

I've fired both an AK and AR (civilian versions). Both are good guns, but I'd take an AR any day. Just my opinion.

well being a grunt currently in iraq with the stryker bde... my M4 hasn't ****ed up on once. i'd rather go into combat with my M4/M203 if you weren't such a lazy piece of **** and cleane your weapon it'll never fail you. i would never take an ak into combat its so inacurate. trust me i know i've been shot at enough by them. we have one weapon thats camo'ed up but that came from the ranger batt down the street. LBE? **** i haven't seen those since boot along with M16s every goes right on your body armour. but yeah when i did use the m16a4 in boot it was a very reliable and accurate weapon.

[shrek]

I didn't read the posts so here goes!



a. depends on your commander and what your mission might be. Some of the Rangers had painted weapons some didn't. Same same with modifying your LBE.

b. If I HAD to I would pick up a friggin rock in battle. If you had run out of ammo. wouldn't you pick one up??? (note: we found them in most caches)

c. look above

d. Not being a smart ass here, ok!! But, what the hell do you think?

[PrincessRAR]

about the AK ...

we are told to 'not eat from the street' chances are it'll be rigged and blow up in your face ... that said if there's absolutely nothing else I can use and people are shooting me I'd go for the AK (but I'd bring my regular weapon with me as well in case I find some ammo for it).

I just don't think many soldiers (especially pogues) could pick up an AK47 and start firing!!
It is such a different weapon system to anything we use and I suppose yanks use.
When some of the infantry guys did a course of weapons of the world and ak47 was there and I'll tell you it is different.
Not to mention its a larger calibre round!!

And what soldier is going to run out of ammo anyway, itd be pretty rare!!
I dont think soldiers relaly get lost from their sections and platoons.
And you always take alittle bit more then you need ;) in terms of ammo.

[Red]

about the AK ...

we are told to 'not eat from the street' chances are it'll be rigged and blow up in your face ... that said if there's absolutely nothing else I can use and people are shooting me I'd go for the AK (but I'd bring my regular weapon with me as well in case I find some ammo for it).

I just don't think many soldiers (especially pogues) could pick up an AK47 and start firing!!
It is such a different weapon system to anything we use and I suppose yanks use.
When some of the infantry guys did a course of weapons of the world and ak47 was there and I'll tell you it is different.
Not to mention its a larger calibre round!!


And what soldier is going to run out of ammo anyway, itd be pretty rare!!
I dont think soldiers relaly get lost from their sections and platoons.
And you always take alittle bit more then you need ;) in terms of ammo.
I've run out of ammo before :oops: training