Today's Pic's. Oct 20

[Seraphim]

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South Korean Army soldiers rush during their annual exercise against possible North Korea (news - web sites)'s attack, at Anyang, south of Seoul, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. U.S. President George W. Bush (news - web sites) conferred with South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun on Monday and claimed progress was being made on peacefully solving a crisis with North Korea by offering Pyongyang written security assurances in exchange for a commitment to scrap its nuclear weapons program. (AP Photo/Yonhap, Chun Soo-young).

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Palestinian policemen at the wreckage of the car targeted by an Israeli missile strike in Gaza city, Monday Oct. 20, 2003. Israeli helicopters fired two missiles at a pickup truck in Gaza City on Monday, killing two Hamas members, one bystander and wounding 12 bystanders in the second air strike in less than three hours. (AP Photo/Adel Hana)


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A Palestinian paramedic looks into a destroyed vehicle following the Israeli air attacks in Gaza City(AFP/Mohammed Abed)


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[ArmoredDov_D9]

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Palestinians survey the damaged after a missile strike in Gaza October 20,2003. An Israeli warplane bombed a building next to the home of an Islamic Jihad leader in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites), wounding at least 12 people but leaving the senior Palestinian militant unharmed. Photo by Suhaib Salem/*******

My note: according to IDF spokeswoman, the target wasn't Abbedullah Shami but a bomb lab and a weaponery workshop of Hamas.

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Palestinian police inspect a vehicle that was destroyed in an Israeli air strike. At least three Palestinians were killed and 19 wounded in three separate air strikes on Gaza City.(AFP/Mohammed Abed)

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A man reads the daily Maariv newspaper showing the picture of French President Jacques Chirac and a headline saying in Hebrew "The Face of French Anti-Semitism" in Jerusalem(AFP/Menahem Kahana)
More information (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/france_israel_malaysia)

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A Palestinian extinguishes a fire in a damaged building after it was hit by a missile from an Israeli fighter plane in Gaza October 20,2003. An Israeli warplane bombed a building next to the home of an Islamic Jihad leader in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites) on Monday, wounding at least 12 people but leaving the senior Palestinian militant unharmed. The Israeli army said it had not been aiming at Abdallah al-Shami of Islamic Jihad but instead had destroyed a weapons factory run by the militant group Hamas in an uninhabited house next door. *******/Suhaib Salem

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This is a terrorist. Period.

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IDF soldiers on operation. The soldier in the right holds a Mini-Uzi with folding stock. The second soldier from the left holds CAR15 with M203 grenade launcher. The rest are too fuzzy.

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Palestinians gather around a destroyed house following an Israeli air strike in Gaza City Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Israeli F-16 warplanes on Monday attacked what the military said was a rocket workshop just 200 meters (yards) from the home of an Islamic Jihad leader, Abdullah Shami, who was not hurt. The air strike hit a two-story building under construction where the army said Qassam rockets were being made. (AP Photo/Hatem Moussa)

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Israeli soldiers stand guard next to an ambulance at the Palestinian West Bank village of Ein Yabrood. Twelve Palestinians were wounded in an Israeli air raid on a Hamas weapons factory in Gaza City, a day after eight Qassam rockets were fired At Israel(AFP/Orel Cohen)


Israeli soldiers stand guard next to an ambulance at the Palestinian West Bank village of Ein Yabrood, north of Ramallah after Palestinians opened fire on a group of Israelis. Three Israelis were killed and another wounded in the ambush, a spokesman for Israeli emergency services said.(AFP/Orel Cohen)

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Palestinians walk in the rubble of demolished houses in the al-Salam neighborhood in the Rafah refugee camp, southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites).(AFP/Mahmud Hams)

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Israeli soldiers carry a body of a comrade at the area of an attack against an Israeli army foot patrol near the West Bank town of Ein Yabrud late Sunday Oct. 19, 2003. Palestinian gunmen ambushed the patrol after sundown Sunday, killing three soldiers, Israeli security sources and rescue services said, the most serious attack in the area in months. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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Israeli soldiers and rescue personnel look at the bodies of three soldiers, killed near the West Bank village of Ein Yabrud, after they were carried to the nearby West Bank Jewish settlement of Ofra, late Sunday Oct. 19, 2003. Palestinian gunmen ambushed an Israeli army foot patrol after sundown Sunday, killing three soldiers, Israeli security sources and rescue services said, the most serious attack in the area in months. (AP Photo/Lior Mizrahi, Baubau)

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An Israeli mourns outside a place were the bodies of three Israelis, killed in an ambush in the West Bank in the Ofra settlement, are being stored October 19, 2003. Gunmen killed three Israelis and wounded at least one on Sunday in an ambush on a West Bank road north of the city of Ramallah, an Israeli security source said. *******/David Furst/Flash 90 (ISRAEL OUT)

"That What Happens When You Make Your House A Terrorist Stroghold"
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Palestinians inspect the damage after their homes were destroyed during an Israeli operation at Rafah refugee camp in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) October 19, 2003. Israeli forces shot dead two militants, a woman bystander and a teenager in fighting on Saturday. Three of the deaths were in the southern Gaza, where troops withdrew from one refugee camp on Sunday after a four-day raid but remained in another. (*******)

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Hundreds of Egyptian students of al-Azhar Universty, the highest Islamic Sunni institution, shout anti- U.S. and Israel slogans as they demonstrate inside their campus Sunday, Oct.19, 2003, protesting against the Israeli recent raids against Syria and Rafah, southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites), and the U.S.-led occupation in Iraq (news - web sites). (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)

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Egyptian students of al-Azhar Universty, the highest Islamic Sunni institution, burn American, British and Israeli flags during a demonstration inside their campus Sunday, Oct.19, 2003, protesting against the recent Israeli raids against Syria and Rafah, southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites), and the U.S.-led occupation in Iraq (news - web sites). (AP Photo/Amr Nabil)

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Palestinians walk through the rubble of a house destroyed during an Israeli Army incursion in the Al Brazil neighbrhood in the Rafah refugee camp, southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites), Sunday Oct. 19, 2003. Israeli troops pulled out of a part of the refugee camp along the Gaza-Egypt border early Sunday, completing a four-day operation in which they demolished at least 15 homes and killed four militants and four bystanders, witnesses said. (AP Photo/Khalil Hamra)

[Haiw]

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green eyes...pale skin...i'm no expert, but this guy doesn't look really arabic...weird

[wulfstan]

Armoured Dove,
Do you remember a Palestinian sniper attack on an Isreali guard/border post a couple of years ago that killed 9 soldiers?

Well, i used to work with asylum seekers (illegal immigrants and criminals mostly) and a Palestinian guy (there are loads of Palestinian asylum seekers here, the govt won't send any of them back, just lets them hang around without status) told me that the soldiers were all killed with a 1930's Lee Enfield rifle (like the ones the Brits used in WW2). He claimed to know this because he had called home and everyone was boasting about it!!! Bull**** is my opinion. I was wandering what you knew about it and whether there was any evidence about this?

BTW, the same guy told me that he wanted to leave Britain to go home and 'kill jews'. No ****. Of course, he is still here and still collecting thousands of pound of benefits!

[He219]

Some more:

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Members of the Indonesian special forces and their dogs perform a terrorist training drill from a helicopter, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003, in Jakarta, Indonesia. The Indonesian police force, air force, army, navy and special forces have been training together since the Bali bombings last year to reinforce skills used to combat terrorism. (AP Photo/Tatan Suyflana)

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Members of the Indonesian Air Force perform a terrorist training drill, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003, in Jakarta, Indonesia. The Indonesian police force, air force, army, navy and special forces have been training together since the Bali bombings last year to reinforce skills used to combat terrorism. (AP Photo/Tatan Suyflana)

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[ArmoredDov_D9]

Armoured Dove,
Do you remember a Palestinian sniper attack on an Isreali guard/border post a couple of years ago that killed 9 soldiers?

Well, i used to work with asylum seekers (illegal immigrants and criminals mostly) and a Palestinian guy (there are loads of Palestinian asylum seekers here, the govt won't send any of them back, just lets them hang around without status) told me that the soldiers were all killed with a 1930's Lee Enfield rifle (like the ones the Brits used in WW2). He claimed to know this because he had called home and everyone was boasting about it!!! Bull**** is my opinion. I was wandering what you knew about it and whether there was any evidence about this?

BTW, the same guy told me that he wanted to leave Britain to go home and 'kill jews'. No ****. Of course, he is still here and still collecting thousands of pound of benefits!

Well, for the checkpoint incident:
Daily newspaper claimed the rifle was M1 Carbine, but later it was founded that they were serveral types of rounds. The estimation today, AFAIK, is that the snipers used M14 rifle and some sort of automatic light machine gun from two different posts. Another sepculation that I heard is that the sniper wasn't Palestinian but a foreign mercenary.

[Sirpad]

Armoured Dove,
Do you remember a Palestinian sniper attack on an Isreali guard/border post a couple of years ago that killed 9 soldiers?

As far as i know, the gun used was an old russian mosin-nagant. the M1 carbine was left behind to confuse the investigators, but it took short time to understand that. the sniper did used a single shooting position, but the echo from the walls of the canyon where the post was placed returned and confused the soldiers - they actually opened fire at the oposite direction, thus exposing their backs to the sniper's fire.

IMHO this was a lethal mix of professional (or plain lucky) palestinian work and don't-give-a-**** soldiers who paid dearly for previous major ****-ups. the isaelt press blamed higher commanders for the resposinility - altough they do share some of the blame, it does not take away the soldeirs own fault.

[fokket]

Haiw,

I know plenty Arabic people who have pale skin and green/blue eyes..

[Fargin]

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This is a terrorist. Period.

I love the Today's pics threads for their objectivity, please don't mess with that. :(

[Sirpad]

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this pic is about year old. anypne has ideas about the gun he's holding? the magazine looks 5.56.

[Shake n Bake]

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green eyes...pale skin...i'm no expert, but this guy doesn't look really arabic...weird


His ancestors were probably crusaders..

[Aussie2093]

it could be a toy gun sirpad, looks a bit too 'smooth'.

[ArmoredDov_D9]

He could probsbly an import (the man, not the gun). It is no secret that Palestinian used the service of merceneries, mainly from the IRA, the Chechnian restitance, Hizbullah and even Al-Qaeda.

As for the gun, the barrel cover reminds me some sort of M16 variant, it could be probably a toy or a mock gun.

[Minjin]

That gun magazine looks more like a G3 mag to me...has the three little nubs on the side....

[usa320]

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This is an asshole with a bullseye painted on his back. Period.

And that does look like a toy gun.

[He219]

It is a toy gun. I saw another view of it before.....
lol

More pic's:

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Reserve M16's...

Israeli reservist practice in a shooting range shortly after being called into military duty Monday Oct. 20, 2003 at a military base near the southern Israeli town of Kiryat Gat. Israel's army on Sunday called up five reserve battalions about 5,000 soldiers to replace conscript soldiers serving in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. (AP Photo/Gadi Kabalo)

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Family and friends mourn over the grave of Israeli soldier Erez Idan, 20, during his funeral in the city of Hulon near Tel Aviv Monday, Oct. 20 2003. Idan was killed Sunday by an ambush of Palestinian gunmen near the West Bank town of Ein Yabrud. (AP Photo/Eitan Hess-Ashkenazi)

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Smoke rises after an Israeli helicopter fired missiles at a car carrying two Hamas members in Gaza city, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003.

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A Palestinian police officer collects body parts as others gather around the remains of a truck following an Israeli air strike in Gaza City Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Israeli helicopters fired two missiles at a pickup truck in Gaza City on Monday, killing two Hamas members and wounding 12 bystanders in the second air strike in less than three hours. (AP Photo/Kevin Frayer)


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A Colombian army captain shows a photo of Edgar Gustavo Navarro, during a new conference in Bogota, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Colombian troops killed Navarro, the No. 2 leader of an elite unit of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, during a gunfight Sunday along with ten other rebels. (AP Photo/Fernando Vergara)

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A group of 44 paramilitary soldiers turn in their weapons and surrender to authorities in Buenaventura, Colombia on Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Paramilitaries turned over their weapons in the last hours of an operation carried out by the marines in Bahia Solano, some 450 kms (273 miles) northwest of Bogota. (AP Photo/Oswaldo Paez)

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A soldier guards a group of 44 paramilitary soldiers who turned in their weapons and surrendered to authorities in Buenaventura, Colombia on Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Paramilitaries turned over their weapons in the last hours of an operation carried out by the marines in Bahia Solano, some 480 kms (273 miles) northwest of Bogota. (AP Photo/Oswaldo Paez)

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Gen. Vladmir Lazarevic, the commander of Yugoslav army units in southern Serbia, Col. General Nebojsa Pavkovic, former Yugoslav army chief-of-staff and Serbian police general, Vlastimir Djordjevic as seen in this June 16, 2000 file photo. The U.N. war crimes tribunal on Monday Oct. 20, 2003 indicted four Serbian generals for alleged atrocities in Kosovo, including the Gen. Vladimir Lazarevic (AP Photo/Kostadin Kamenov)


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Indian soldiers install heavy machine guns around the house where suspected Islamic militants are hiding in the village of Tharyun some 70 kilometers (43 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Suspected Islamic militants hiding in this village took twelve civilians hostage after they were surrounded by soldiers. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)


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An Iraqi truck driver, center, tries to take cover as U.S. Army soldiers secure the area after assailants ambushed a U.S. Army foot patrol outside Fallujah Monday, Oct 20, 2003. One American soldier and two civilians where killed and five others wounded in the second day of attacks. The patrol, from the 82nd Airborne Division, was first hit by an exploding homemade bomb, and then by small-arms fire, the military said. The driver of the white truck, above, was killed as well. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

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(From the left) Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) divers, Aviation Boatswain's Mate 1st Class Joel Blea and Lt. Ryan Bedner, assigned to Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit 5 (EOD-MU5) Detachment 51, check their face masks to ensure a tight fit, while gearing up for a training dive in Sasebo Bay, Japan, Oct. 14, 2003. Explosive Ordnance Disposal Unit 5 Det. 51 operates out of Fleet Activities Sasebo, Japan. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class (AW) Jonathan R. Kulp) (Released)

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Sniping with the Eotech holosight???


Prince William County prosecutor James Willett handles the weapon used in the sniper shootings during opening arguments of the trial of sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad, at the Virginia Beach Circuit Court in Virginia Beach, Virginia, October 20, 2003. Muhammad, on trial for murder for one of 10 gunshot killings that terrorized the Washington area last year, was allowed to act as his own attorney as opening arguments began on Monday. Judge Leroy Millet, Jr., looks on.*******/Martin Smith-Rodden/POOL


Edit: more pic's.. ;)

[UoUo]

But is still a terorist.

[Seoulstriker]

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Indian soldiers install heavy machine guns around the house where suspected Islamic militants are hiding in the village of Tharyun some 70 kilometers (43 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Suspected Islamic militants hiding in this village took twelve civilians hostage after they were surrounded by soldiers. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)


isn't that an AGL rather than heavy machine gun?

[ArmoredDov_D9]

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Indian soldiers install heavy machine guns around the house where suspected Islamic militants are hiding in the village of Tharyun some 70 kilometers (43 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Suspected Islamic militants hiding in this village took twelve civilians hostage after they were surrounded by soldiers. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)


isn't that an AGL rather than heavy machine gun?

I think it is a grenade-machinegun (מקל"ר).

[Seoulstriker]

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Indian soldiers install heavy machine guns around the house where suspected Islamic militants are hiding in the village of Tharyun some 70 kilometers (43 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Suspected Islamic militants hiding in this village took twelve civilians hostage after they were surrounded by soldiers. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)


isn't that an AGL rather than heavy machine gun?

I think it is a grenade-machinegun (מקל"ר).

otherwise it would be an extremely large caliber like .75 or something.

[He219]

I believe it's an 30mm AGS-17 grenade launcher (http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/AGS-17.html)...

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Indian soldiers install heavy machine guns around the house where suspected Islamic militants are hiding in the village of Tharyun some 70 kilometers (43 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Suspected Islamic militants hiding in this village took twelve civilians hostage after they were surrounded by soldiers. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)

[Sirpad]

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Indian soldiers install heavy machine guns around the house where suspected Islamic militants are hiding in the village of Tharyun some 70 kilometers (43 miles) south of Srinagar, India, Monday, Oct. 20, 2003. Suspected Islamic militants hiding in this village took twelve civilians hostage after they were surrounded by soldiers. (AP Photo/Mukhtar Khan)


isn't that an AGL rather than heavy machine gun?

This is a 30mm AGS-17 Plamya (flame) russian AGL. the ammo drum is on the ground, under the launcher.