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Jester

06-28-2005, 06:25 PM

No lMG 36 ever existed in the Bw. The version´s used in the different units were just ordanary G36 outfitted with the C-Mag and a bipod, nothing more! As far as I know, there was not even one "real" lMG 36 (=thicker barrel) issued to any unit.

Jester

Prometheus

06-29-2005, 05:33 AM

Pille1234

06-29-2005, 09:46 AM

Chulo

06-29-2005, 10:03 AM

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W26D5MKL510INFODE/$FILE/050607_blick_gelaende_6-640x480.jpg

sweet! HK MP7 PDW
issued for combat actions?

McLane

06-29-2005, 10:25 AM

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet... so fvcking sweet! MG4 & MP7! The future today! *-*

He219

06-29-2005, 01:41 PM

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W26D5MKL510INFODE/$FILE/050607_blick_gelaende_6-640x480.jpg
sweet! HK MP7 PDW
issued for combat actions?
Issued for Close Protection, here Feldjaeger securing the area before one of Chancellor Schroeder's visits:

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Chulo

06-29-2005, 02:24 PM

Pille1234

08-02-2005, 02:35 PM

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3769/s10nz.jpg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1841/s28di.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/v3/76/574376/1/45931033.mmb47.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/v3/76/574376/1/45931034.mmb48.jpg

^^ Thanks to Marcus

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KABUL, AFGHANISTAN: Soldiers of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) are pictured with international flags during a ceremony at the Kabul Multi-National Brigade (KMNB) in Kabul, 20 July 2005. Italian troops took command of the main International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) peacekeeping base in Kabul, marking the change-over between Turkish troops and the official entry of the Italian army into ISAF. AFP PHOTO/ SHAH Marai (Photo credit should read SHAH MARAI/AFP/***** Images)
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http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8623/bisaf288ch.jpg
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http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5425/bisaf110tm.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4013/b_isaf_33.jpg
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easyand

08-02-2005, 02:39 PM

great pics, also our helicopters are arriveing in afghanistan now

Doomsayer

08-02-2005, 02:57 PM

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holy fvcking crap!

geez we need to throw away our minimi's and buy those

hedgehog

08-02-2005, 02:57 PM

The Dingo that hit a mine... was anyone injured? Did the design function as intended?

Pille1234

08-02-2005, 03:06 PM

The Dingo that hit a mine... was anyone injured? Did the design function as intended?

In short: no and yes

Dingo besteht Bewährungsprobe
Seine bisher ernsthafteste Bewährungsprobe im Einsatz hatte das Allschutz-Transport-Fahrzeug ATF Dingo am 3. Juni 2005 im Raum Kabul zu bestehen. Soldaten des LUNA-Zuges der Gemischten Aufklärungskompanie ISAF VII verlegten mit ihren Fahrzeugen vom Typ Wolf, Dingo, Duro und LKW 2 to von einer Startstellung der Drohne LUNA im Südosten Kabuls zurück in das Camp Warehause, dem Stationierungsbereich des deutschen ISAF-Kontingents. obwohl die Marschroute vom UN-Minenräum-Team als minenfrei erklärt worden war, fuhr der Dingo mit dem rechten Vorderrad auf eine Panzermine, vermutlich russischer Bauart. Die Minendetonation zerstörte das Rad, die Radaufhängung und den nicht geschützten vorderen Teil des Fahrzeugs. Die minengeschützte Sicherheitszelle für die Besatzung hielt der Detonation stand, zwei Insassen erlitten leichte Verletzungen durch die Schockeinwirkung
auf das Fahrzeug, das zwei Meter zur Seite geschleudert wurde. Es entstand ein Krater von zwei Metern Durchmesser und einem halben Meter Tiefe.
Die Schutztechnologie des Dingos wurde im Rahmen des Forschungsund Technologieprogramms der Hauptabteilung Rüstung im BMVg entwickelt und erprobt. Der Minenschutz wurde angeregt durch ein südafrikanisches Fahrzeug,
ein Mercedes Unimog mit V-förmigem Unterboden, der die Schock- und Druckwelle einer Mine vom Fahrzeug wegleitet. Krauss-Maffei Wegmann integrierte die Schutztechnologie gegen Minen und Infanteriemunition in eine
Sicherheitszelle auf der Fahrzeugbasis eines handelsüblichen Daimler-Chrysler Unimog. Inzwischen ist mit dem Dingo 2 das Nachfolgemodell auf dem Markt.

Navor

08-03-2005, 04:18 PM

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/KSK/stern_01.JPG
:lol: :lol: :lol:
KSK is just awesome

toki

08-03-2005, 05:39 PM

http://www.seventy6er.de/bilder/div/mil/KSK/stern_01.JPG
:lol: :lol: :lol:
KSK is just awesome
somehow funny... people are checking the web for ever to find new(!) pics of their favourite SF unit and the only thing you need to do is buying a weekly magazine and take a look. Stern had quite a few KSK reports as far as i know with quite exclusive pics. The stories are another thing. One has to be careful what is just sensational talk and what's real.

sp2c

08-03-2005, 05:58 PM

auf den donnerbalken
im US-lager Kandahar hat ein KSK mann seine p-12 pistole sogar im klo griffbereit

woot rofl

means he has his pistol ready while taking a dump ;)

Kitsune

08-03-2005, 07:28 PM

You never know what could happen even there. Allegedly the Japanese Daimyo Uesugi Kenshin was assassinated by a Ninja that had hidden in...well...the dump for days. And when the Daimyo got to buiseness he was stabbed upward with a sword...Not a very heroic way to go.
In any case, caution is a survival trait.

p-)

Vintendo

08-03-2005, 11:43 PM

OMEGA7

08-04-2005, 04:15 AM

Where does the germany army has keeping peace area?

Supe

08-04-2005, 05:41 AM

Where does the germany army has keeping peace area?

Kabul and Kunduz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force

toki

08-04-2005, 08:05 AM

Where does the germany army has keeping peace area?
the KSK operations and ISAF are two very different things. KSK (shown in the pics) are no peacekeepers. They are in much lower numbers and do joint ops with other sf, somehow classiefied but with a little fantasy everybody knows. The Bundeswehr in general of course operates in afghanistan as peacekeeping force.

Pille1234

08-10-2005, 11:45 AM

'Little Aussies' arriving at KAIA with help of the mighty US Airforce

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^mishap

on a side note, a German soldier died sunday in an accident (not related to the above picture)

KABUL, Afghanistan -- An international military soldier was killed yesterday and three others injured when their vehicle slid off the road east of the Afghan Capital's Bagrami District. The accident occurred at 1635 local time as the soldiers' 3-vehicle convoy was returning to their base. No other vehicles were involved.

ISAF emergency services were immediately dispatched to the scene and the dead soldier and the injured were evacuated by helicopter and ambulance to ISAF's military hospital in Kabul. The wounded are all in a stable condition.

The soldiers are part of international military forces working with ISAF in its mission to assist the people and Government of Afghanistan. ISAF wishes to express its regret at this accident and offers its condolences to the family of the deceased soldier.

The names and nationalities of the soldiers have not yet been released pending notification of next of kin. The accident is under investigation by ISAF.

Pille1234

09-01-2005, 01:56 PM

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http://www.y-punkt.de/sixcms_upload/media/474/leserfoto_11_2003.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/daily/KSK.jpg

German (need ID help) soldiers stand in the rubble of a house and secure the area around the airport of Feyzabad, Afghanistan, on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005, during a visit of German Defense Minister Peter Struck. Struck is on a short trip to Afghanistan to visit German troops in Feyzabad and Kunduz. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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Local Afghan soldiers welcome German Defense Minister Peter Struck, center, in Kunduz, Afghanistan on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Struck is on a short trip to Afghanistan to visit German troops in Feyzabad and Kunduz. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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German Defense Minister Peter Struck, second from left, poses with local Afghan soldiers and German Captain Tilo Unterberg, third left, in Kunduz, Afghanistan on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Struck is on a short trip to Afghanistan to visit German troops in Feyzabad and Kunduz. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20050829/i/r1467594801.jpg?x=380&y=246&sig=CFW6LDQK4tvJYSffpDcMnA--<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Zitat </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">German BKA operators guard Germany's Defence Minister Peter Struck (4th L) during his visit to a military base near the northern Afghan town of Feyzabad August 29, 2005. Struck is on a one-day trip to Afghanistan to visit ISAF peacekeeping troops of the German armed forces Bundeswehr. *******/Arnd Wiegmann [/quote]
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German Colonel Peter Baierl, third from right, gestures as he talks to German Defense Minister Peter Struck, third from left, in the German ISAF camp in Feyzabad, Afghanistan on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Struck is on a short trip to Afghanistan to visit German troops in Feyzabad and Kunduz. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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Bundeswehr Leutnant Thilo Schuett, links, erklaert Bundesverteidigungsminister Peter Struck, rechts, die Lage um das deutsche ISAF Lager in Faisabad, Afghanistan , am Montagmorgen, 29. August 2005. Minister Struck ist am Montagmorgen zu einem Kurzbesuch der deutschen Soldaten in Afghanistan eingetroffen. Beim Wiederaufbauteam in Faisabad liess sich der SPD-Politiker ueber die Lage im Norden des zentralasiatischen Landes informieren. Anschliessend fliegt er nach Kundus weiter. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
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German Defense Minister Peter Struck, left, speaks to German First Lieutenant Thilo Schuett, right, as he is explained the area around the German ISAF camp in Feyzabad, Afghanistan on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Struck is on a day visit in Afghanistan to visit German troops in Feyzabad and Kunduz. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

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Ösis in einer Einbahnstraße

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Ösis und Deutsche

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Platter in Kunduz

little older:

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McLane

09-01-2005, 02:38 PM

Wow, really cool Pics!

Thank you mate. I like the term 'ösi' or 'shluchtenscheisser' for our neighbours - but they are a really cool nation, I really like 'em. Nice to see that germans and austrians fight shoulder on shoulder in this poor country.
btw: when the austrian army will get the AUG3 in service (or there are no plans for that?)?

Frank the soldier

09-01-2005, 06:37 PM

The german engeneering became Help from the Mercedes-Benz 24h service. But the letter " Military-Police" is amused

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[/img]MB Actros in kabul

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Frank the soldier

09-01-2005, 06:39 PM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/FrankBaunach/GECON012.jpg

F4Phantom

09-08-2005, 09:12 PM

baker

09-09-2005, 06:22 AM

http://www.dontgivvafuq.com/misc/stan/units/bw/fallis_01.jpg

RS_Leo1A5

09-09-2005, 09:40 AM

Jester

09-09-2005, 12:38 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/daily/KSK.jpg

German (need ID help) soldiers stand in the rubble of a house and secure the area around the airport of Feyzabad, Afghanistan, on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005, during a visit of German Defense Minister Peter Struck. Struck is on a short trip to Afghanistan to visit German troops in Feyzabad and Kunduz. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
As far as I know, these are Para´s from the FschJgBtl 313 from Varel.

He219

09-09-2005, 01:23 PM

As far as I know, these are Para´s from the FschJgBtl 313 from Varel.
Cool. When I posted (http://militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58314&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=monday+august+29th) that pic, Navor mentioned that they were either Feldjäger Close Protection or Fallschirmjägerspezialzug (Para Recce Platoon)
:)

F4Phantom

09-09-2005, 02:33 PM

We have Dingos, Fuchs and Wiesel in Afghanistan. But i've never seen a Luchs in Afghanistan? Why they don't send some of this vehicles with 20 mm gun for better convoy firepower in case of attack?[/img]
My guess:
Luchs is a reconnaissance vehicle, lightly armored and armed only for self-defense (if a Luchs has to open fire it means it has botched its mission, i.e. been spotted by the enemy).
A Wiesel MK has the same armament (20mm cannon) but is smaller and lighter meaning both a smaller target and much easier to handle logistics-wise.

Mhh yes maybe they think Luchs is needless because Wiesel. I read some time ago that 7th German tank division leaved to Bosnia-Herzegowina, Kosovo and Afghanistan. Anyone knows which tanks they displaced to Afghanistan? Do they now have Leopard 2 or Marder in Afghanistan or why did they send them to Afghanistan?

http://www.deutschesheer.de/redaktionen/heer/internet/Contentbase2.nsf/docname/451421572CD52BAFC1257036003F7156

Jester

09-09-2005, 02:35 PM

Cool. When I posted (http://militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=58314&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=monday+august+29th) that pic, Navor mentioned that they were either Feldjäger Close Protection or Fallschirmjägerspezialzug (Para Recce Platoon) :)
No, they arn´t FschSpezZg. They are from one of the combat Co´s.
And by the way, the FschSpezZg is not "only" a Recce Platoon. They should be some sort of, let´s say "SOF light". More or less some sort of german Version of the frensh CRP´s or the british Pathfinder Platoon.

F4Phantom

09-09-2005, 02:52 PM

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4013/b_isaf_33.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8623/bisaf288ch.jpg

Belgian AH-64 with German CH-53? Is this the temporary solution for CH-53 air safeguard? They should hurry up with their Tiger training. :D

And another question why do they only fly CH-53 in Afghanistan and not UH-1D for example? I think this machines have problems with gear and Afghan dust. I read that they upgraded CH-53 with dust filter additional.

Jester

09-09-2005, 02:57 PM

F4Phantom

09-09-2005, 03:05 PM

And another question why do they only fly CH-53 in Afghanistan and not UH-1D for example? I think this machines have problems with gear and Afghan dust. I read that they upgraded CH-53 with dust filter additional.
That is one reason. The other is, that it is too high for our UH-1D´s. If they would be able to lift off, they would only carry it´s own crew and nothing else, so ist would be senseless to use them!

And what's with NH90? Is this heli already in use? Or do they still test the chopper? They should better replace CH-53 with a newer, bigger transport chopper instead of NH90 for UH-1D. That would be more sensefull for new transport tasks of the future. :roll:

Jester

09-09-2005, 03:13 PM

And what's with NH90? Is this heli already in use? Or do they still test the chopper?
The first chopper´s are planned to join the troop´s in 2006.

baker

09-15-2005, 09:39 AM

sorry for double post

baker

09-15-2005, 09:41 AM

http://people.freenet.de/graf.von.zahl/ma1.JPG
http://people.freenet.de/graf.von.zahl/ma3.JPG
http://people.freenet.de/graf.von.zahl/ma5.JPG
http://people.freenet.de/graf.von.zahl/ma4.JPG

caleb

09-15-2005, 09:53 AM

Awesome pics, thanks baker! :hug:

baker

09-15-2005, 10:21 AM

Awesome pics, thanks baker! :hug:

No problem. But to be honest: I just found them on HKpro ;)

easyand

09-15-2005, 11:08 AM

what's that?

http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_atf_2_dingo_1_rs_eule-003.jpg

Harlequin

09-15-2005, 12:11 PM

what's that?
http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_atf_2_dingo_1_rs_eule-003.jpg

It is an ELINT Dingo 1 with an elavatable antenna by Rohde & Schwarz.

He219

09-15-2005, 12:18 PM

Awesome pics, thanks baker! :hug:

No problem. But to be honest: I just found them on HKpro ;)

Nice pic's baker & NmSF [original poster/hkpro]
:D

seventy6er

09-15-2005, 12:38 PM

Anybody happen to know what unit they are?

My guess is regular Fallschirmjäger, don't think they're from a Spezialzug.

Is the foregrip from KAC or homemade?

McLane

09-15-2005, 12:57 PM

I saw Units with this foregrip several times.... most of them are in a Spezial-Zug - but these guys? No Idea, but.... I think they were Fallis SpezialZug

great pics btw :)

nickless

09-15-2005, 01:05 PM

Is the foregrip from KAC or homemade?

From the look of it, my guess would be Black & Decker rather than KAC... ;)

And, btw, this (http://people.freenet.de/graf.von.zahl/ma4.JPG) is what I call a gear whore - I mean, everything expect for his body armor and the BDU bottoms looks as if it was purchased privately.

baker

09-15-2005, 02:07 PM

And, btw, this (http://people.freenet.de/graf.von.zahl/ma4.JPG) is what I call a gear whore - I mean, everything expect for his body armor and the BDU bottoms looks as if it was purchased privately.

I guess I he's not in a regular Unit ;) which makes it easy to get better equipment.

baker

09-15-2005, 02:11 PM

baker

09-15-2005, 02:13 PM

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German ISAF Einsatzkompanie patrols the downtown area September 14, 2005 in Kabul, Afghanistan.
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German ISAF Einsatzkompanie patrols September 14, 2005 in Kabul, Afghanistan. Security has been stepped up ahead of the upcoming provincial elections which will be held on September 18, part of a major step for the country to restore democracy and stability almost four years after the Taliban was ousted. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

seventy6er

09-15-2005, 02:32 PM

Is the foregrip from KAC or homemade?

From the look of it, my guess would be Black & Decker rather than KAC... ;)

Exactly what I thought. rofl

seventy6er

09-15-2005, 02:36 PM

AirCommando

09-19-2005, 07:43 PM

in Khost
[img]http://img93.echo.cx/img93/4590/kskkhost0kh.jpg

In Khost? KSK? What for hell is this story? Kidding?

Macs.

09-19-2005, 08:22 PM

in Khost
[img]http://img93.echo.cx/img93/4590/kskkhost0kh.jpg

In Khost? KSK? What for hell is this story? Kidding?

The only thing I know about this photo, that it was taken when the KSK got deployed the 2nd time.

Macs.

09-19-2005, 08:23 PM

Anybody happen to know what unit they are?

The webspace belongs to "Graf-von-Zahl". You know him from se.de?
If I remember correctly he has good connection to FschJg and espcially to the Spezialzüge (don't know if he is a para himself though).

Yes, I know him.

Did Graf von Zahl post all of his pics somewhere ?

I only saw some every now and then, are there more somewhere ?

nickless

09-19-2005, 08:24 PM

[img]
in Khost
http://img93.echo.cx/img93/4590/kskkhost0kh.jpg

In Khost? KSK? What for hell is this story? Kidding?

Why kidding?

Soldiers from the KSK returned to Afghanistan this spring, but little to nothing is known about their missions there, just like their earlier deployment that started in 2001.

baker

09-27-2005, 12:28 PM

not sure if it's Astan. landscape looks a bit unusal.

http://www.blowback.de/board/galerie/bilder/bild-477.jpg
http://www.blowback.de/board/galerie/bilder/bild-452.jpg

Pille1234

10-10-2005, 05:35 PM

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http://www.atxs.de/Bilder/Produkte/CQC405MK1/RIG05.JPG

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http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/663/kabulattack058rn.jpghttp://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4532/kabulattack042lk.jpg

German soldiers of the NATO-led peacekeeping force stand guard at the site of a suicide attack in Kabul. A suicide bomber on a motorcycle has blown himself up at an army training centre in the Afghan capital, killing nine people and injuring 28, the defence ministry said.(AFP/Shah Marai)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/853/kabulattack012qy.jpghttp://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7695/kabulattack020fp.jpg

International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) soldiers and Afghan police block an area to a bomb blast site in Kabul September 28, 2005. A suicide bomber dressed in an army uniform rammed his motorcycle into a fleet of buses carrying Afghan army officers in the capital Kabul on Wednesday, killing at least nine people and wounding 28, officials said. *******/Ahmad Masood

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FDF_Hemppis

10-10-2005, 06:24 PM

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8665/1527760o1ou.jpg

Damn...talk about an international picture!

What's that... German, Swede, Belgian, Norwegian, French(?), American, Canadian... woot

tenda

10-10-2005, 06:39 PM

really interesting update tnx:)

ranger75bn

10-10-2005, 06:58 PM

really interesting update tnx:)

x 2 woot woot

Vintendo

10-11-2005, 01:31 AM

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8665/1527760o1ou.jpg

Damn...talk about an international picture!

What's that... German, Swede, Belgian, Norwegian, French(?), American, Canadian... woot

yep, very cool pic. That Belgian camo is so fugly!

toki

10-11-2005, 08:23 AM

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8665/1527760o1ou.jpg

Damn...talk about an international picture!

What's that... German, Swede, Belgian, Norwegian, French(?), American, Canadian... woot
HA, i didn't spot the canadian first. Camo works! :)
great pic. Glad this thread was bumped not too long ago and survived!

larryzou

10-11-2005, 09:28 AM

very nice photos , for the germany army, thinks guy .

AirCommando

10-16-2005, 06:38 AM

very nice photos , for the germany army......

Hä? Wy? Isn´t usual that german army have nice pictures?

Pille1234

10-19-2005, 02:09 PM

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5818/img04626yg.jpg
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http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3298/img05444pu.jpg

little older ones, from the beginning of ISAF

http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/2245/bw_lkw_00-5t_gl_opinfo_isaf-001.jpg
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Pille1234

10-19-2005, 02:10 PM

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Pille1234

10-19-2005, 02:15 PM

more recent:

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/4086/ISAF20ChiK20St.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1346/ISAF_12.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/461/ISAF_14.jpg

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/953/ISAF_1.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/2148/ISAF_3.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/7075/ISAF_56.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/6135/ISAF_2.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/9849/ISAF_21.jpg

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/5936/ISAF_15.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8823/ISAF_16.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/737/ISAF_22.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/6658/ISAF_23.jpg
http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/5193/isaf258cn.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/9366/ISAF_31.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/9987/ISAF_39.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/2721/ISAF_40.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/4333/ISAF_47.jpg

http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/9118/ISAF_53.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/6378/ISAF_54.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/8485/ISAF_5.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/3227/ISAF_6.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/3088/ISAF_7.jpg
http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/2650/xxs1.jpg

Esszett

10-19-2005, 02:28 PM

Whoa, great thread!
Thanks for all the gorgeous pics!

tenda

10-19-2005, 06:42 PM

cool update...!!!!!! tnx..woot

AirCommando

10-20-2005, 09:15 AM

Danke schön, I will say Danke schön........

Pille1234

11-09-2005, 01:52 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/915f9593.jpg
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http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8122/Bild202-640x479.jpg

^Opening ceremony in Mazar-I-Sharif, Nov 8 2005

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Pics from http://www.pumakompanie.de , 2002 :

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ibstolidude

11-09-2005, 02:08 PM

GREAT PICS! I saw a lot of men outside without helmets on and I'm curious as to why. In the US military even if we don't have kevlar on you usually are required to have some type of cover on.
In garrison, perhaps.

caleb

11-09-2005, 02:09 PM

Awesome post Pille, You rock!
Fantastic pictures, from when are the last ones? Some still wear the old British flack-jacket.

edited for clarification

variable

11-09-2005, 02:42 PM

badass pics! nice find!

how come they don't ever wear helmets in astan?

p.s.: the poserpics rule :)

Weasel

11-09-2005, 02:45 PM

Nice pics.

And this I call german imperialism. We will own the world. woot

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3861/afg23.jpg

caleb

11-09-2005, 02:52 PM

^ Yeah, that one made me smile. Aldi in Kabul, who would have thought.

Count Lippe

11-09-2005, 03:58 PM

Aldi... All your base are belong to us!p-)

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9369/Bild04_640-640x479.jpg

TOF style!rofl

Great Pics!woot

Eldar

11-09-2005, 03:59 PM

what kind of Schutzweste are they using?

towelie

11-09-2005, 04:06 PM

nice pics pille. where do you find all these photos?

PIMP

11-09-2005, 04:13 PM

Nice pics. I like this one especially. ;)

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8291/afg24.jpg

Xlimit

11-09-2005, 04:21 PM

Question: Does the Dutch army share a base with the germans in Afghanistan? Saw a Dutch soldier in 1 of the first pics.

noFlooder

11-09-2005, 05:14 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5216/afg95.jpg

This party shure rocks like hell.

seventy6er

11-09-2005, 05:19 PM

Question: Does the Dutch army share a base with the germans in Afghanistan? Saw a Dutch soldier in 1 of the first pics.

Yes, we got a handful of Dutchies in the German base. They clean our tents and stuff.

j/k

toki

11-09-2005, 05:20 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5216/afg95.jpg

This party shure rocks like hell.
Haha yeah... Kindergeburtstag!
woot

The kid with the "Rosette" t-shirt may not know the german meaning of Rosette. p-)

Best pics in a while!

nickless

11-09-2005, 05:32 PM

what kind of Schutzweste are they using?

Most are using the standard body armor (the one in flecktarn camo pattern) made by Mehler (link (http://www.mehlervariosystem.de/uk/pdf/pdfstatisch/S813-758.pdf)), some wear the older, british made "Bristol" vest in DPM pattern. In the newer pictures up in the thread, soldiers also wear the new "IdZ" (future infantryman) body armor.
I didn't see any american vests though (and to my knoledge, there are none in use in the Bundeswehr), no idea what caleb is talking about.

Standard vest:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6758/afg90.jpg

British "Bristol" vest:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7016/afg89.jpg

IdZ body armor:
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/55400221.jpg?x=x&dasite=*****Images&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D0502010942195534B1B9E10FCFB106FF673B5718570AC9EDBE4E6F952F6

caleb

11-09-2005, 05:39 PM

no idea what caleb is talking about.

I was talking about the Britisch Bristol, got it mixed up. :oops:

Teaser

11-09-2005, 05:43 PM

Good pic's! I like German's they are respectful people

tenda

11-09-2005, 05:45 PM

really cool pic's i love this one....:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/248e604d.jpg

Conga

11-09-2005, 06:19 PM

great pics, Pille woot

Macs.

11-09-2005, 06:30 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5216/afg95.jpg

This party shure rocks like hell.

ahahhaha, that pic looks so typical german.

towelie

11-09-2005, 06:59 PM

are those ice cream cups? Ice cream cups where the **** back in the day.

Eldar

11-09-2005, 07:21 PM

WOW! these pics rocks!!!!!!

NICKLESS said:
Most are using the standard body armor (the one in flecktarn camo pattern) made by Mehler (link (http://www.mehlervariosystem.de/uk/pdf/pdfstatisch/S813-758.pdf)), some wear the older, british made "Bristol" vest in DPM pattern. In the newer pictures up in the thread, soldiers also wear the new "IdZ" (future infantryman) body armor.
I didn't see any american vests though (and to my knoledge, there are none in use in the Bundeswehr), no idea what caleb is talking about.

Standard vest:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6758/afg90.jpg

I bought this model one year ago

http://www.strikeball.com/equip/image009.jpg

and I was wondering what kind of Splitterschutzweste are they using, because in the pics, they don't have Schulsterpad, and it's different to the model I own :P

By the way, where could I buy a Splitterschutzweste new,, not used???

thanks for the info

towelie

11-09-2005, 09:29 PM

how good are the german kevlar vests?

inspector

11-09-2005, 09:43 PM

really nice pictures you added there! Shame that the older ones don't work for me anymore.

Zerodivider

11-10-2005, 03:43 AM

I bought this model one year ago

http://www.strikeball.com/equip/image009.jpg

and I was wondering what kind of Splitterschutzweste are they using, because in the pics, they don't have Schulsterpad, and it's different to the model I own :P

The model that you've got is the one that was originally developed during the cold war era and is merely a flak jacket to protect against splinters - used only during training in Germany. If you go on a mission aborad, you get the proper Mehler bullet proof vests.
Another model of this vest is issued to KSK and some DSO units:

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8629/image12hp.jpg

[img=http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/3647/ml025oj.th.jpg] (http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ml025oj.jpg)

And they do have a sense of humor ;) :
[img=http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/5894/ml052po.th.jpg] (http://img290.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ml052po.jpg)

FREEDOM

11-10-2005, 04:19 AM

The model that you've got is the one that was originally developed during the cold war era and is merely a flak jacket to protect against splinters - used only during training in Germany. If you go on a mission aborad, you get the proper Mehler bullet proof vests.
Another model of this vest is issued to KSK and some DSO units:

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/8629/image12hp.jpg

[img=http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/3647/ml025oj.th.jpg] (http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ml025oj.jpg)

And they do have a sense of humor ;) :
[img=http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/5894/ml052po.th.jpg] (http://img290.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ml052po.jpg)

Hi Zerodivider,

What the name of this vest?

Thanks

RS_Leo1A5

11-10-2005, 05:25 AM

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8122/Bild202-640x479.jpg

^Opening ceremony in Mazar-I-Sharif, Nov 8 2005
Why does that Oberfeldwebel have air force shoulder straps + army medic beret?

Eldar

11-10-2005, 05:40 AM

nickless

11-10-2005, 05:54 AM

how good are the german kevlar vests?

They offer the usual protection - German Schutzklasse 1 (NIJ lvl. IIIA) protection from the kevlar, plus SK 4 (NIJ lvl. IV) hard armor plates in the front and back.

Hi Zerodivider,

What the name of this vest?

Thanks

It's called "Schutzweste Spezialkräfte" (armor vest, special forces), you can read the procurement specifications (in German) here (http://daten.bwb.org/AG-Bund/TL/daten/84700068_3.pdf).

Zerodivider

11-10-2005, 01:03 PM

Why does that Oberfeldwebel have air force shoulder straps + army medic beret?

Because... he's a medic in the air force? ;)

kk111

11-10-2005, 02:09 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5216/afg95.jpg

woody harrelson and michael j. fox ?

Eike, ger

11-10-2005, 02:34 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5216/afg95.jpg

This party shure rocks like hell.

They have no beer, too bad for them xD

RS_Leo1A5

11-10-2005, 06:47 PM

Because... he's a medic in the air force? ;)
Well...
The thing is, he's combining insignia of different branches!
If he's air force, he shouldn't have a beret (in the German air force only airfield security troops have berets).
If he's army, there shouldn't be small wings on his shoulder straps.

I'm sure there's some reason for this combination and I'd like to know it.

Eldar

11-10-2005, 07:15 PM

Well...
The thing is, he's combining insignia of different branches!
If he's air force, he shouldn't have a beret (in the German air force only airfield security troops have berets).
If he's army, there shouldn't be small wings on his shoulder straps.

I'm sure there's some reason for this combination and I'd like to know it.

an airsofter?? or maybe a smart conscript?? :P

noFlooder

11-10-2005, 08:46 PM

They have no beer, too bad for them xD

Its a Kindergeburtstag.

Beer comes with the 12th Birthday ....

larryzou

11-10-2005, 10:47 PM

wow I sow the befor thinks man to post agan.

seventy6er

11-11-2005, 02:05 AM

Where are you from Larryzou? Are you friends with Omega?

Pille1234

12-16-2005, 05:52 PM

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4867/d16yo.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3912/fs11zq.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5562/fs27td.jpg
Mazar-I-Sharif

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1554/standard2.jpg
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/727/standard.jpg

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7053/orig9lm.jpg
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http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/8055/orig6.jpg

Tim292

12-16-2005, 06:19 PM

What's the situation in Mazar-I-Shariff now for the Bundeswehr? Is the PRT already running, or still in the build-up phase? Other nations, i.e. Dutches still present?

towelie

12-16-2005, 06:42 PM

nice pics as always pille

inspector

12-16-2005, 08:02 PM

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/8625/orig4.jpg

Oh I see, a few grenades where shot! :)

Great pics!

Pille1234

12-17-2005, 05:29 PM

http://home.arcor.de/bavariangnackfotzn/FIRING%20RANGE2.JPG

http://home.arcor.de/bavariangnackfotzn/Tommys.JPG

http://home.arcor.de/bavariangnackfotzn/firing%20Range.JPG

Dakota435

12-17-2005, 05:40 PM

I'd say the G 50, nee MG-42, can take a place next to the .50 M2 as the most timeless and enduring infantry weapon. Are there any other infantry weapon designs as old as these two still in service?

seventy6er

12-17-2005, 05:43 PM

the 1911 Colt?

JoaMei

12-17-2005, 06:22 PM

the 1911 Colt?

Well, the P1/P38 perhaps and the AK47 probably. But the M2 and the Colt 1911 are the oldest for sure, even if they have been modified.

nerdman

12-17-2005, 08:04 PM

http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/8055/orig6.jpg

Is that an M16 with an adjustable buttstock?

Dexx

12-24-2005, 10:11 AM

A few pics from a friend:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5227/050115109pe.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7158/05031970rv.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1622/05031924km.jpg

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http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2517/050318124dg.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7425/0503182266cr.jpg

tsuri

12-24-2005, 10:17 AM

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7599/050203fremd31dq.jpg
WTF is this? A carpet over a crashsite? Roadblock?

variable

12-24-2005, 10:22 AM

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7599/050203fremd31dq.jpg
WTF is this? A carpet over a crashsite? Roadblock?

Looks like it's just a truck of the locals that was loaded a little sh*tty:)

Nice pics, actually! What's the story behind the wrecked Fuchs? And nice to see the Mungo in action.

ben

seventy6er

12-24-2005, 12:45 PM

Is it just me, or do these two Wiesel MK20 look different than any other I have seen before? What's that thing on the left side of the gun? Looks like some sort or rocket-launcher? never seen it before.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8897/05021393xa.jpg

Tim292

12-24-2005, 02:35 PM

Iirc these are some kind of optics.. Thermal devices, night vision or whatever.

@Dexx.. Are these pictures of last winter under the leadership of the German/French-Brigade?

Dexx

12-24-2005, 03:08 PM

Iirc these are some kind of optics.. Thermal devices, night vision or whatever.

@Dexx.. Are these pictures of last winter under the leadership of the German/French-Brigade?

Jan. 05 - Jul. 05 in Kabul

Pille1234

03-14-2006, 03:30 PM

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http://img16.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-3451/loc24/68054_tacp_isaf8.jpg

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http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/79/56860633.jpg

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/3381/060302_befh_in_fey-640x480.jpg

Der Befehlshaber des Einsatzführungskommandos der Bundeswehr, Generalleutnant Holger Kammerhoff, besuchte am 1. März 2006 das PRT Feyzabad.

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/982/42-16466081.jpg

German International Security & Assistance Force (ISAF) soldiers and Afghan National Army take positions outside the Pul-i-Charkhi prison after several people were injured when rioting broke out in the jail late Saturday night.The Afghan Defence Ministry sent a battalion of 800 soldiers to safeguard the prison

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/1719/060309schneeketten5nj.jpg

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/2333/060309schneewolf0na.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/Todays%20Pix/more/39f30888.jpg

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Holstein

03-14-2006, 04:00 PM

graet pics Pille.

Macs.

03-14-2006, 04:04 PM

Nice pics.

On a sidenote:
http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/8242/DF-SD-03-04392.jpg

Not Afgahnistan but "Bright Star Exercise" 2005 in Egypt.

Stovepipe

03-14-2006, 04:16 PM

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/1719/060309schneeketten5nj.jpg

Some more pics of "MSA-Tonner"?

He219

03-14-2006, 05:03 PM

How about this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/Todays%20Pix/more/4311acbb.jpg

Wiesel 2 im vollangriff waehrend einer NATO Uebung mit Afghan National Army (ANA) soldaten in der gegend von Kabul, Afghanistan, Donnerstag den 16. Februar, 2006. (AP Photo/Rafiq Maqbool)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/Todays%20Pix/more/2f93c931.jpg

Ein Schuetzenpanzer Fuchs der Bundeswehr faehrt am Donnerstag 22. Dezember 2005 im "Camp Warehouse" in Kabul in Afghanistan. Die Bundeswehr zieht die Mehrheit der deutschen Soldaten aus Kabul ab und verlagert den Schwerpunkt ihrer Operationen im kommenden Jahr nach Nordafghanistan. Von den derzeit 1.400 Bundeswehr-Soldaten sollten bis Ende 2006 nur noch rund 500 in der afghanischen Hauptstadt eingesetzt werden, sagte ein Sprecher der Bundeswehr am Rande des Besuchs von Verteidigungsminister Franz Josef Jung (CDU) in Kabul. Wichtigster Stuetzpunkt der Bundeswehr in Afghanistan wird dann Masar-i-Sharif werden. (AP Photo/POOL/Michael Hanschke)

Pille1234

03-14-2006, 07:39 PM

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8893/c160kab9oh.jpg

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/1338/c160kab22ay.jpg

Pille1234

04-25-2006, 12:41 PM

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W26NRD95184INFODE/$FILE/060411_fennek_01.jpg
*4-11-2006 Spähwagen „Fennek" arrive at Mazar-E Sharif airport.(Quelle Pressestelle PRT Kunduz)*
http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W26NRDB9288INFODE/$FILE/060411_fennek_02.jpg
*Throught the mountains to Kunduz (Quelle Pressestelle PRT Kunduz)*
http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W26NRDCU134INFODE/$FILE/060411_fennek_03.jpg
*Arrival at PRT Kunduz (Quelle Pressestelle PRT Kunduz)*

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seventy6er

07-09-2006, 08:34 AM

bump 123456789

McLane

07-09-2006, 09:03 AM

Great Pics!

Blackburn

07-09-2006, 09:45 AM

yeah, really good pictures

Blackburn

07-09-2006, 10:00 AM

Heron

07-09-2006, 11:04 AM

i wanna join the German Army,sincerelly

.........
oh wait...i'm not german

apm

07-09-2006, 11:19 AM

http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/3153/5_3764_7b8c719514cbf64.jpg

to wich kind of troops does this insignia on that tpz fuchs belong to? and why there isnt the typical ordinal structure on it like (just for example) 2. (company) - Insignia (e.g. mechanized infantry)- 99. (bataillon or next higher unit)? what i see there looks like "klk", but that cant be right. the klk (former kommando luftbewegliche kräfte) doesnt exist anymore.

Shadow

07-09-2006, 11:19 AM

You have to just love the landscape....

Why do only a few vehicles have desert camo?

Macabi

07-09-2006, 12:11 PM

Yeah the landscape is buautifull. Tnx for the pics.

Marsuitor

07-09-2006, 12:59 PM

A few pics from a friend:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7599/050203fremd31dq.jpg
Lol, it seems your friend was there at the same time we passed through;
http://misheli.image.pbase.com/v3/76/574376/1/45931033.mmb47.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/g4/76/574376/2/63204904.JpKCXjVm.jpg

apm

07-09-2006, 02:56 PM

You have to just love the landscape....

Why do only a few vehicles have desert camo?

maybe because the same reason they went there only with flecktarn vests instead of wüstentarn...not as well prepared...or because the new locations are more in the mountain region (Kunduz& Mazar-i-Sharif) where they also wear flecktarn...

Eki

07-09-2006, 05:13 PM

sweeeeeeeet...100 rd c mag :D

http://img106.exs.cx/img106/2519/96wa.jpg Awesome photo !!!!!!!!!!

maple.leaf

07-09-2006, 06:15 PM

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2002/060116_ch53_tiefflug-640x480.jpg

Awesome photo... that so wants to be my wallpaper. Got a link to a full-size version of it?

ooo

07-10-2006, 12:11 PM

maybe because the same reason they went there only with flecktarn vests instead of wüstentarn...not as well prepared...or because the new locations are more in the mountain region (Kunduz& Mazar-i-Sharif) where they also wear flecktarn...
No no no, it isn´t the problem that our armed forces do not have the equipment. The problem ist that some dumb politicans think that it looks more peaceful to be in clothes that doesn´t fit in the countries environment, like "Flecktarn" in Afghanistan. The later contingents got "Tropentarn".

But the brainsickness stays; It isn´t allowed to our first soldiers who went to Kongo (50 men) to CARRY their weapons, they are Soldiers without weapons! It´s unbeliveable, but that´s "Bundeswehr".

kayaker

07-10-2006, 02:08 PM

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8291/afg24.jpg

What brand of radio is that?

Ubar

07-10-2006, 05:26 PM

Sem52sl...

USMarine

07-10-2006, 05:44 PM

thanks for the pics seventy6er very nice
p-) p-) p-) p-) p-) p-)

Blackburn

07-11-2006, 05:11 AM

The problem ist that some dumb politicans think that it looks more peaceful to be in clothes that doesn´t fit in the countries environment, like "Flecktarn" in Afghanistan. The later contingents got "Tropentarn".

I've heard something completely different...

People there recognize the olive vehicles as German, same with
the uniform. Vehicles painted in desert camo and soldiers
dressed in desert pattern they recognize them as american.

People there, I've heard don't like the US. Troops so they
start shootin' ('n **** like this) them.

(This story was told by an Army Medic.)

But long time ago, German troopers got the "Wuestentarn". Just a few vehicles get a desert camo.

last but not least German troops there, also get in trouble.

Pille1234

07-11-2006, 04:05 PM

http://www.howitzer.dk/vehicles/vehiclephoto/isaf/dingo/IMG_9266.jpg

no no! not Africakorps :D

http://www.howitzer.dk/vehicles/vehiclephoto/isaf/mixed/germanytruck1.jpg

http://www.howitzer.dk/vehicles/vehiclephoto/isaf/fuchs/IMG_8834.jpg

apm

07-11-2006, 05:02 PM

wow cool pictures, thx for sharing...i like it to see those vehicles in desert camo because usually you just see them in woodland-colours...

venom

07-11-2006, 05:35 PM

last time I talked to some German army guys about the camo thing, they said they wanted to keep the "woodland" camo , as when they painted their vehicles desert camo, they were often mistaken to be Americans.

Blackburn

07-12-2006, 09:02 AM

yaaaap, the same what I wrote..

Der Weisse Hai

07-12-2006, 09:31 AM

wow cool pictures, thx for sharing...i like it to see those vehicles in desert camo because usually you just see them in woodland-colours...

There are special Camo-Paint-Kits to change the colour from woodland to desert. The special paint can easily be removed.

DWH

venom

07-12-2006, 09:49 AM

yaaaap, the same what I wrote..
ahh sorry, overread your post. :)

yeah , whats a new paintjob worth when its damaged by stones etc shortly after its been applied ;)

I_hate_posers

07-14-2006, 01:29 AM

It kills me that we (Canada) could have bought the Dingo, instead we rushed in (without researching) and bought the RG31! Yes it's proven, but ancient technology. When will people learn, you can't go wrong with German engineering!

apm

07-15-2006, 07:12 PM

these gepards arent from isaf i guess because the missing markings of the peacekeeping forces. but its a german vehicle in desert camo pattern anyway - very rare pictures :)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8132/bwflakpzgepard001alw3.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9019/bwflakpzgepard002a7lq.jpg

somehow i like the gepard...quite a badass tank =D

more from isaf - not sure if they were posted before, but i dont think so

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3701/bwfennekwstentarn02wg3.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/89/060411fennek02pu2.jpg

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2163/7713678sb1.jpg

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9563/konvoi1bh7.jpg

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4636/konvoi2lt0.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9306/ch53heckrampebeobachterkabul1ks8.jpg

He219

07-15-2006, 07:38 PM

-Max2-

07-15-2006, 07:43 PM

Nice Gepard pics ! woot

apm

07-15-2006, 07:44 PM

I'd venture to guess that those Gepard pix are from Crete (http://images.google.de/images?svnum=10&hl=de&lr=&q=gepard+Kreta) ...
:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/bw_flakpz_gepard-003a.jpg

ah cool thx for that info...nevertheless quite cool pictures of a quite cool tank. you dont see german vehicles in wüstentarn often. btw, this is another scheme than the isaf-equipment has, isnt it?

He219

07-15-2006, 07:52 PM

I think ISAF has just about all the schemes in Afghanistan ...
Germans have a !1!strong!1! history of improvised camouflage.
;)

Blackburn

07-15-2006, 08:23 PM

jup, he219 they are from "griechenland" ;)

Macs.

07-15-2006, 08:29 PM

More about Bundeswehr desert-camouflage:

http://www.panzerbaer.de/colours/bw_desert.htm

deagle

07-15-2006, 10:04 PM

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9306/ch53heckrampebeobachterkabul1ks8.jpg[/quote]
look like black hawk down

Crazyjack

07-16-2006, 05:40 AM

Some of my uncles pictures. Two years ago I think.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6829/038fl4.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=038fl4.jpg)
Gaskets in Camp Warehouse

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9179/160ip4.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=160ip4.jpg)
Destroying UXO

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/4324/042wq5.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=042wq5.jpg)
Nice picture. Made in the early dawn.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9537/062nn1.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=062nn1.jpg)
The weapon in the operating theater

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1836/085xw8.th.jpg (http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=085xw8.jpg)
Having fun with the locals while installing medical equipment.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6924/159fx1.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=159fx1.jpg)
Stopping at a damaged bridge.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/16/166im3.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=166im3.jpg)
Farewell party for my uncle.

apm

07-19-2006, 01:07 PM

i know, doesnt fit well in this thread but we spoke about the gepard..here is a quite cool clip of the gepard in an exercise (together with other aa-systems)

hopefully not a repost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onFypxeAkGE

sups

07-19-2006, 03:53 PM

http://www.mil.fi/rauhanturvaaja/get2data.php?id=163
http://www.mil.fi/rauhanturvaaja/get2data.php?id=165

variable

07-20-2006, 03:06 PM

Any background on the last two pics?

Thanks anyway..

ben

sups

07-20-2006, 05:23 PM

Pics were taken during Norwegian-Finnish-Germany evacuation exercise in Afganistan Maimana Jun 06.

He219

07-20-2006, 07:13 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30723548.jpg

A German soldier sitting atop of a Fennek Armed Reconnaissance Vehicle watches the area around Feisabad Airport in Afghanistan, Tuesday July 18, 2006. German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung is on a two-day visit to the German troops in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, Pool)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30723560.jpg

A German soldier sits in an open helicopter during a flight to Feisabad in Afghanistan, Tuesday July 18, 2006. German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung is on a two-day visit to the German troops in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, Pool)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30723547.jpg

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, right, talks with Brigadier Markus Kneip, left, Tuesday July 18, 2006 in a helicopter during their flight to Feisabad Airport in Afghanistan. Jung is on a two-day visit to the German troops in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, Pool)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30723544.jpg

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, left, gestures as he talks with Colonel Bernd Schuett, right, Tuesday July 18, 2006 at Feisabad Airport in Afghanistan. Jung is on a two-day visit to the German troops in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, Pool)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30723563.jpg

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, center, gestures as he talks with Colonel Bernd Schuett, right, and Brigadier Markus Kneip, left, Tuesday July 18, 2006 at Feisabad Airport in Afghanistan. Jung is on a two-day visit to the German troops in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, Pool)

http://cache.*****images.com/xc/71469661.jpg?v=1&c=MS_GINS&k=2&d=08A8BA3C818346D0C8B591E52B2E1BA2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30723815.jpg

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, left, and Colonel Bernd Schuett walk at the military camp in Feisabad, Afghanistan, Tuesday July 18, 2006. Jung is on a two-day visit to the German troops in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, Pool)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730507.jpg

(note the HK MP7 armed Feldjäger)

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, center, arrives at the airport in Masar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan, Wednesday, July 19, 2006. Jung visits German soldiers who are part of the ISAF in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, pool)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/060719_jung1.jpg

Ankunft des Bundesverteidigungsministers Dr. Franz-Josef Jung in Mazar-e Sharif (Quelle Pressestelle Mazar-e Sharif)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730493.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730463.jpg

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, right, talks with German soldiers at the airport in Masar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan, Wednesday, July 19, 2006. Jung visits German soldiers who are part of the ISAF in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, pool)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730511.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730558.jpg

Brigadier Markus Kneip, left, explains a mortar launcher to German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, right, who visits Camp Marmal, the base of the German soldiers in Masar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan, Wednesday, July 19, 2006. Jung visits German soldiers who are part of the ISAF in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, pool)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/060719_bild3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730483.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730502.jpg

German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, left, talks with German recon soldiers as he visits Camp Marmal, the base of the German Bundeswehr soldiers in Masar-i-Sharif, Afghanistan, Wednesday, July 19, 2006. Jung visits German soldiers who are part of the ISAF in Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Michael Hanschke, pool)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730533.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730522.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/060719_jung2.jpg

Verteidigungsminister Dr. Franz-Josef Jung und der Kommandeur der deutschen Truppen in Afghanistan Brigadegeneral Markus Kneip im Gespräch (Quelle Pressestelle Mazar-e Sharif)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730500.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730567.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730191.jpg

Soldiers part of ISAF (International Security Assistance Force) talk each other as an Afghan woman passes by during an inauguration ceremony of a school in Kabul, Afghanistan, Wednesday, July 19, 2006. An ISAF civil-military cooperation team of Finland implemented the project, funded by Finland's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the cost of the project is estimated at US$100,000. (AP Photo/Musadeq Sadeq)

Stovepipe

07-21-2006, 01:18 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730191.jpg

Wearing bling-bling during service... tzzzzzz :D

towelie

07-21-2006, 01:40 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Soai0EPHKEc&search=bundeswehr

found that video

Ger_mark

07-21-2006, 07:13 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/30730502.jpg

Is this guy Oberfähnrich or Hauptfeldwebel ?

xoom

07-21-2006, 08:15 PM

Seems to be HFw. Can not see a silver band.

Mathias85

07-23-2006, 04:26 PM

great pics!!!

seventy6er

10-29-2006, 05:52 PM

*bump* No new pics anyone? Pille?

Fuschimuschi

11-15-2006, 01:35 PM

today:
http://www.tvinfo.de/exe.php3?target=popup&sidnr=38222255&comefrom=main.inc

Maybe someone can tape it?

Morris

11-15-2006, 06:47 PM

today:
http://www.tvinfo.de/exe.php3?target=popup&sidnr=38222255&comefrom=main.inc

Maybe someone can tape it?

I wasn't able to record it, but it was a pretty good one imo.
I feared they would bash the soldiers again, but they let them talk most of the time. Lots of information on what german soldiers (or soldiers in general) have to deal with after they're home from e.g. afghanistan.

I_hate_posers

11-15-2006, 09:16 PM

Wearing bling-bling during service... tzzzzzz :D
This is the first time I checked out this thread, like the Dutch thread,"awsome". As for the female wearing jewlery and I'm assuming you mean tease? You should have seen some of the Canadian females in Khandahar (I mean the good looking ones) they either dressed...well you know what I mean. And the higher ups are warning us about harassment policies and crap.
Mind you, my eyes didn't mind the view!

Muang

11-16-2006, 12:06 AM

Good pics and good army.

Is what the German army is you it a professional army or obligatory?

apm

11-16-2006, 01:57 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr p-)

VanLeeuwen

11-16-2006, 05:56 AM

Must be hell when you are an infantryman moving up in higher terrain, and some Gepard in a valley spots you and starts firing away.. :'(

Dark Avenger

11-16-2006, 06:10 AM

I'd venture to guess that those Gepard pix are from Crete (http://images.google.de/images?svnum=10&hl=de&lr=&q=gepard+Kreta) ...
:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/notgonnadothismuchlonger/more/more/more/bw_flakpz_gepard-003a.jpg
Yes, the firing range there is also used by NATO allies and not exclusively by the Hellenic Military.

Breakfast in Vegas

11-16-2006, 06:21 AM

toki

11-16-2006, 06:29 AM

Nice report on ARD (public channel 1 in Germany) about German Bundeswehr soldiers returning from Afghanistan with post-traumatic stress disorder. Now imagine what kind of stress they'd have if they actually did some FIGHTING...

Not speaking of KSK... who knows what they are up to...

I've seen half of it. IIRC the one had traumatic experiences of a mine clearing accident. Also some were affected aftermath of IED. For a person it doesn't really matter how this trauma happened. Some put it away, some not. Fighting is another stress level of course, no doubt, but Traumas are single events and they can happen without fighting. So i think combat stress is not the same as a single event trauma, but both can lead to equally bad symptoms. Someone could correct me if i'm wrong.

I don't think the symptoms are worse, comparing the events. It is rather depending on the person.

VanLeeuwen

11-16-2006, 06:43 AM

I've seen half of it. IIRC the one had traumatic experiences of a mine clearing accident. Also some were affected aftermath of IED. For a person it doesn't really matter how this trauma happened. Some put it away, some not. Fighting is another stress level of course, no doubt, but Traumas are single events and they can happen without fighting. So i think combat stress is not the same as a single event trauma, but both can lead to equally bad symptoms. Someone could correct me if i'm wrong.

I don't think the symptoms are worse, comparing the events. It is rather depending on the person.

Yeah there is no reason to b*tch at those who have "acquired" PTSS over there, it could happen to the best soldiers..
Let's just hope that Defence will take good care of them by the means of psychological help so they recover, that could prevent some incidents like the U.S. has had, with Marines shooting civilians at a gas-station in order to get "suicide-by-cop".

Those with PTSS don't deserve to be disrespected, they deserve proper care. So keep your "it would have been worse if they had actually fought" comments in your mouth. You wouldn't be too happy if you have seen your best friend lose his arm or leg, because of an IED, either.

Breakfast in Vegas

11-16-2006, 06:58 AM

Not disrespecting the soldiers with PTSS... seeing blown up kids or watching somebody die pushes all the wrong buttons in the human psyche... was just wishing that German politics would allow a wider use of the Bundeswehr in overseas missions.

Really wonder if the Bundeswehr has the heart for it after seeing some of the interviews, especially the officers.

Also found the tone of the report a bit kid-gloved. I follow the German press closely and every time there is the suggestion of increased danger in Afghanistan (or God forbid a mission which might involve shooting) the calls for the troops to come home multiply at all political levels.

I know it is the WWII legacy, but it does get old.

zulu261

11-16-2006, 08:14 AM

Germany is new to oversea deployments so let the people get used to it.

PTSS is new to the Germans, not so to the Americans. Let things settle a bit and everything will be fine.

Macs.

11-16-2006, 09:54 AM

Also found the tone of the report a bit kid-gloved. I follow the German press closely and every time there is the suggestion of increased danger in Afghanistan (or God forbid a mission which might involve shooting) the calls for the troops to come home multiply at all political levels.

Thats simpy not true. Show me where there was a call "multiply at all political levels" to bring the troops back. You are simply talking out of your ass, sorry.

Now imagine what kind of stress they'd have if they actually did some FIGHTING...

Believe it or not, it happens, and not just in a handful of events. Just because you don't read about it in the news doesn't mean there is nothing happening.

Breakfast in Vegas

11-16-2006, 11:21 AM

Thats simpy not true. Show me where there was a call "multiply at all political levels" to bring the troops back. You are simply talking out of your ass, sorry.

Believe it or not, it happens, and not just in a handful of events. Just because you don't read about it in the news doesn't mean there is nothing happening.

Miss the recent Bundestag debate? Mission extended, but plenty of doubters.

Perhaps they are doing more fighting than I am aware of... it's pretty impossible to follow their mission scope from here... as we certainly aren't hearing about it in the press unless they are desecrating graves and posing with dead bodies. I personally doubt the mission would "survive" a rash of casualties involved from fighting. Political support for the mission would fall apart quickly.

Macs.

11-16-2006, 02:04 PM

Miss the recent Bundestag debate? Mission extended, but plenty of doubters.

So now its just "plenty of doubters" instead of "multiply at all political levels"... ?

In the Bundestags there have been 436 votes for the extend of "Enduring Freedom" and 101 against it. And that was for the "Enduring Freedom"-Mandate under which the combat-deplyoment of the KSK are made, not even the ISAF-Mandate.

Breakfast in Vegas

11-16-2006, 03:03 PM

There was more debate than the final vote reflects within CDU and SPD and you know that. This much debate even though the Bundeswehr hasn't seen any combat beyond responding to IEDs and convoy attacks, dodging occasional rocket and mortar attacks on the base etc. Not dissing the troops, but they are hardly as actively involved in combating the Taliban as the US, Canadians, English or Dutch. If you've got better sources than me on Bundeswehr missions and activities that express something to the contrary, I'd be happy to hear about them.

I defer my argument until a few casualties do roll in. Let's see how much the support the mission has then. I'm really interested if the German government has the stomach to take on increased international responsibility. Bin mehr als skeptisch.

Weasel

11-16-2006, 04:06 PM

Somebody saw the documentary on ARD yesterday?

variable

11-16-2006, 04:13 PM

I did. They mainly named the issue. Showed soldiers that were wounded by IED attacks or of soldiers that weren't able to cope with the many severly wounded and dead.

It wasn't the best documentary, frankly said. They failed to show the other side of the medal.

Actually one soldier said that he will refuse from now on to go abroad because he experienced so many bad things. Who does he think he is? Does he really think he can decide where he goes and where not? He is a soldier. Others decide where he's being sent. This guy really made me mad throughout the whole documentary.

All in all it's not worth watching it, Weasel.

Ben

zulu261

11-16-2006, 04:18 PM

I defer my argument until a few casualties do roll in. Let's see how much the support the mission has then. I'm really interested if the German government has the stomach to take on increased international responsibility. Bin mehr als skeptisch.

The Dutch lost 3 men, the Danes also 3. Germany lost 18 men and they didnt shoot each other while taking a dump. May all KIAs rest in peace.

If you have no clue about whats going on, stop thinking about what could go on.

I heard some stuff about Dutch air support and general stuff. I dont want to start a flame war but I hate it if Germany is always displayed as a bunch off assheads.

zulu261

11-16-2006, 04:24 PM

Actually one soldier said that he will refuse from now on to go abroad because he experienced so many bad things. Who does he think he is? Does he really think he can decide where he goes and where not? He is a soldier. Others decide where he's being sent. This guy really made me mad throughout the whole documentary.

Well you can. Its possible to refuse. I know a guy, he volunteered to stay longer as the 9 months draft and they wanted to send him to Bosnia. He refused and stayed at home.

These persons suck, volunteered, signed the contract and refused to do their job. I finish school in a few months and I'll volunteer. If they call for me, I'll go.

Createdeemcee

11-16-2006, 04:28 PM

http://www.kmba.de/aktuell/internas/201002/201002_01.jpg

I just love this little tank.

Weasel

11-16-2006, 04:53 PM

I did. They mainly named the issue. Showed soldiers that were wounded by IED attacks or of soldiers that weren't able to cope with the many severly wounded and dead.

It wasn't the best documentary, frankly said. They failed to show the other side of the medal.

What is the other side of the medal?

Actually one soldier said that he will refuse from now on to go abroad because he experienced so many bad things. Who does he think he is? Does he really think he can decide where he goes and where not? He is a soldier. Others decide where he's being sent. This guy really made me mad throughout the whole documentary.

All in all it's not worth watching it, Weasel.

Ben

A free country. Nobody will force him to go abroad.

I found it really interesting. Showed arguments soldiers should think about before signing the contract.

variable

11-16-2006, 05:00 PM

What is the other side of the medal?

Well what I wrote afterwards. That they are soldiers who know they can be sent anywhere in the world when German, EU or UN interests are affected. That's what they have signed.

A free country. Nobody will force him to go abroad.

Strange soldier not willing to go abroad. Taking salaries from his country but not willing to give anything back when he is needed most... Bad taste, if you ask me.

I found it really interesting. Showed arguments soldiers should think about before signing the contract.

Right. Why did you ask if you've seen it yourself? I could have spared my 1st post then:)

Ben

Weasel

11-16-2006, 05:10 PM

Well what I wrote afterwards. That they are soldiers who know they can be sent anywhere in the world when German, EU or UN interests are affected. That's what they have signed.

Too bad nobody really knows how german troops defend Germany at the Hindukusch. p-)

Strange soldier not willing to go abroad. Taking salaries from his country but not willing to give anything back when he is needed most... Bad taste, if you ask me.

Bad taste or not. Isn´t this usual? Look at all those politicians and managers.

Right. Why did you ask if you've seen it yourself? I could have spared my 1st post then:)

Ben

Wanted to hear some thoughts about it.

Morris

11-16-2006, 07:50 PM

As I wrote before I think it is an interesting docu. Maybe some viewers learned something about the Bundeswehr they didn't know before.
The soldier that refused to go abroad was the first german soldier severely wounded abroad after WW2 right?
He didn't see a mine and stepped on it and now his left foot is crippled. If he had gone abroad after the accident when he had the chance he would have had to sent other soldiers to clean mines. I think that is what stops him.
But I understand you as well. Being sent to places where noone wants to go is also a part of being a soldier.

Macs.

11-16-2006, 08:21 PM

The soldier that refused to go abroad was the first german soldier severely wounded abroad after WW2 right?

No, I believe that was a Medic who was shot (Killed) while doing a foot patrol in Somalia.

Breakfast in Vegas

11-17-2006, 03:17 PM

The debate about Germany's role in Afghanistan is now being discussed in this thread:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2088308&postcount=1

JTAR7242

11-17-2006, 03:24 PM

In the Bundestags there have been 436 votes for the extend of "Enduring Freedom" and 101 against it. And that was for the "Enduring Freedom"-Mandate under which the combat-deplyoment of the KSK are made, not even the ISAF-Mandate.
Let's see the results when the German troops are deployed to do something other than stand post and hang out.

I'm not bashing the contribution the troops are making, but let's be realistic about the commitment of the German people to the mission in Afganistan.

seventy6er

11-17-2006, 04:50 PM

http://www.fr-aktuell.de/_img/_cnt/_dpa/afghanistan_13131018_onlinebild.jpg

http://www.tagesschau.de/styles/container/image/style_images_default/0,1307,OID6036988,00.jpg

http://www.tagesschau.de/styles/container/image/style_images_default/0,,OID1938418,00.jpg

apm

11-17-2006, 05:01 PM

Macs.

11-18-2006, 01:24 PM

Let's see the results when the German troops are deployed to do something other than stand post and hang out.

I'm not bashing the contribution the troops are making, but let's be realistic about the commitment of the German people to the mission in Afganistan.

Lets be realisitic, you don't know what you are talking about.

"Enduring Freedom" is the Mandate for (besides others) our SF in Afghanistan which can/was/is deployed all over Afghanistan. Although the KSK was "discredited" just before the vote (Alleged POW abuse, ""Nazi""-Era Symbols on Jeeps.) the results were still good.

Wodan

11-18-2006, 04:06 PM

----please erase----

Shadow

11-18-2006, 04:35 PM

great great pics, especially the first one...

Jup, beautiful paintjob!
Do soldiers have to apply the paintjob on their own or is there some kind of guy who's responsible for this?

Fuschimuschi

11-19-2006, 07:49 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,741095,00.jpg

Invisigoth

11-19-2006, 09:50 AM

I guess after 60 years of thorough indoctrination, any military aspirations have been effectively purged from our society. That's the result you get when you try to "keep the Germans down".....:D

On a more serious note, do any of my fellow Germans have the exact text of the mandate for Enduring Freedom? Would be interesting to see whether there is a geographical limitation with respect to deployment within Afghanistan.

Cheers.

Inv

tsuri

11-19-2006, 10:05 AM

On a more serious note, do any of my fellow Germans have the exact text of the mandate for Enduring Freedom? Would be interesting to see whether there is a geographical limitation with respect to deployment within Afghanistan.
http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/031/1603150.pdf
Original Mandate:
http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/14/072/1407296.pdf

3rdMillhouse

11-19-2006, 11:09 AM

Although the KSK was "discredited" just before the vote (Alleged POW abuse, ""Nazi""-Era Symbols on Jeeps.) the results were still good.

You mean the "Iron Cross"?!

Macs.

11-19-2006, 11:15 AM

You mean the "Iron Cross"?!

No, thats a official symbol.

Because of this symbol which is similar to the "Afrika Korps" symbol...

http://img.stern.de/_content/57/53/575319/Afghanistan250_250.jpg

Invisigoth

11-19-2006, 11:40 AM

http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/031/1603150.pdf
Original Mandate:
http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/14/072/1407296.pdf

You're a star, thank you! :)

Inv

seventy6er

04-04-2007, 05:51 PM

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,838635,00.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/R/q/HBRqably_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/K/d/HBKdHlY9_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/V/i/HBVifHXw_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/L/Y/HBLYOrMT_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/7/R/HB7RcQG7_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg

Lukáš

05-19-2007, 06:42 AM

Super foto's

Macs.

05-19-2007, 06:49 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873520,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873523,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873527,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873549,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873564,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873570,00.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873572,00.jpg

caleb

05-19-2007, 06:52 AM

^ Damn you Macs. I wanted to post those pictures...

Today is a sad day for the German ISAF troops in Kunduz. :-(

muck

05-19-2007, 06:52 AM

Great photos, thank you Macs.

Lukáš

05-19-2007, 06:52 AM

Thank's :) my favorite army

SturmPionier

05-19-2007, 07:42 AM

Its a sad day for our boys in A´ghan :(

Germanfan

07-12-2007, 06:08 AM

*ranimate* no new pictures?

seventy6er

07-25-2007, 03:50 AM

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,924222,00.jpg

http://www.bundesregierung.de/Content/DE/Artikel/2006/11/bilder/bundeswehr-in-afghanistan,property=poster.jpg

http://www.ostfriesische-nachrichten.de/neu/afghanistan/images/Satellit.jpg

http://www.oppermann-telekom.de/bilder/wolf.jpg

http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/PA_1_0_LT/PortalFiles/C1256EF40036B05B/W26CJBKN186INFODE/Meldung-an-OPZ_420.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/PA_1_0_LT/PortalFiles/C1256EF40036B05B/W26CJB85866INFODE/beschwerlich_420.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/PA_1_0_LT/PortalFiles/C1256EF40036B05B/W26CJBB8969INFODE/konvoy_420.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/PA_1_0_LT/PortalFiles/C1256EF40036B05B/W267GKVB855INFODE/041201_pamirgebirge_31.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/PA_1_0_LT/PortalFiles/C1256EF40036B05B/W267HBX9874INFODE/041201_pamirgebirge_05.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

Some probably reposts

easyand

07-25-2007, 07:44 AM

http://www.boeingitaly.it/website_24/pages/page_9643/uploads/ch_carrying.jpg

muck

07-25-2007, 02:41 PM

Good pictures @All !

http://img5.myimg.de/0102092488500805f1.jpg

http://img5.myimg.de/11104602tidi0cfce.jpg

http://img5.myimg.de/32062062pe84b6e2.jpg

http://img5.myimg.de/aae5d9a7f.jpg

http://img5.myimg.de/bundeswehrafghanis253716gf7bc4.jpg

http://img5.myimg.de/cnafgDWPolitikM324798g2f097.jpg

http://img5.myimg.de/070524flugbetrieb39502.jpg

Rest in Peace to all fallen soldiers of ISAF and Enduring Freedom. You will not be forgotten.

http://img5.myimg.de/KundusDWPolitikK255874g45278.jpg

seventy6er

08-23-2007, 07:23 AM

Question: what is that thing on the (from our view) right side of the 20mm? Some sort of optical device? Is it an uograde? IIRC, the Wiesels did not have that thing some years ago.

Thx.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,873564,00.jpg

On another note cause I'm not up to date: are there Marders in A-Stan now, if yes, how many. How do they perform there?

FiveOneFive

08-24-2007, 01:34 AM

Wiesel 1 ATM TOW - anti-tank vehicle fitted with TOW missiles ?

Jarhead

08-24-2007, 07:30 AM

Wiesel 1 ATM TOW - anti-tank vehicle fitted with TOW missiles ?
yeah you are right.

seventy6er

08-24-2007, 04:11 PM

Now dont you guys confuse me. I was on deployment with a Fallschrimjäger company and know how a Wiesel 1 TOW looks like. That's clearly an MK20 version fitted with some, some... I don't know... some fancy extra stuff. But WHAT is it?

nickless

08-27-2007, 01:53 PM

That is the new weapon sight for the MK 20mm, called "AOZ 2000" (autonomes optronisches Zielgerät, stand-alone optronic targeting unit), it includes a daylight CCD camera, a thermal sight and a laser rangefinder.

Jarhead

08-27-2007, 02:14 PM

http://www.waffenhq.de/panzer/wiesel1.html

http://www.waffenhq.de/panzer/wiesel2.html

it might help you;)

Germanfan

09-26-2007, 06:51 PM

no new pics?

usedtobe_2T046B5

11-03-2007, 06:22 PM

jklv

11-04-2007, 01:50 AM

GERMAN FENNEKS IN AFGHANISTAN (GMG, MG3,...)

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1228670

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1236488

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1228723

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/1228796

Hope it is no repost! :|
Thanks man ;)
I spent a whole day looking for this thread at the strictly photos and video haha.
Is the NEBELWURFANLAGE a smoke courtain? or what is it?

toki

11-04-2007, 07:45 AM

Thanks man ;)
I spent a whole day looking for this thread at the strictly photos and video haha.
Is the NEBELWURFANLAGE a smoke courtain? or what is it?

Yes, if you translate it literally it means Fog-throwing-device.

He219

11-04-2007, 02:56 PM

Man, those Fenneks would be useful in SouthEastern Afghanistan.
:|

MathiasL

11-06-2007, 09:07 AM

Hi,

I'm looking for photos of a German armored Mercedes G-Wagon (Wolf SSA) in desert camouflage used for the German ISAF contingent in Afghanistan. I've seen some pictures in TV.

Until now I only know only the olive variant of the Wolf SSA:

http://www.juergen-baur.de/bund/data/media/1/MB_Wolf_GesAusf._Juni2006_4.jpg

Does anyone have photos?

Regards
MathiasL

seventy6er

11-06-2007, 06:11 PM

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W26ZJJFJ943INFODE/$FILE/070323_sicherungshalt.jpg

Note Panzerfaust and Bunkerfaust.

credits go to Dirk from Sondereinheiten.de

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W277EDMM922INFODE/$FILE/06_Wachposten.jpg

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W277ED7Q414INFODE/$FILE/04_Soldaten%20beim%20Aufbau%20des%20LUNA-Zuges.jpg

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/C1256F200023713E/CurrentBaseLink/W277ED6W629INFODE/$FILE/03_Wiesel%20unterwegs%20in%20Kabul.jpg

Elvez73

11-07-2007, 08:55 PM

Damn those G-Wagons look sweet, nice pictures.

seventy6er

11-11-2007, 04:28 PM

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/25/landscapevg1.jpg

Credits go to "muck"

muck

11-12-2007, 12:55 PM

No, I've shamefully stolen it elsewhere. p-)

jklv

11-12-2007, 07:02 PM

Yes, if you translate it literally it means Fog-throwing-device.
Thanks.
I thought the German ISAF troops were using IDZ systems.
Is this correct?

muck

11-13-2007, 01:35 AM

I thought the German ISAF troops were using IDZ systems.
Is this correct?
In growing numbers they do.

jklv

11-13-2007, 03:25 AM

In growing numbers they do.
Pics plz? =P

muck

11-13-2007, 02:22 PM

Pics plz? =P

http://img4.myimg.de/010209623020065f96.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5955/cn324798gmz4.jpg
(^^ notice the gal)
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4408/hqbuwe3292560gxz0.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2420/kabuld319440guq1.jpg
(^^notice MG4)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3518/ra25527556023dc16krja5.jpg

Here you go ;)

jklv

11-13-2007, 03:04 PM

http://img4.myimg.de/010209623020065f96.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5955/cn324798gmz4.jpg
(^^ notice the gal)
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4408/hqbuwe3292560gxz0.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2420/kabuld319440guq1.jpg
(^^notice MG4)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3518/ra25527556023dc16krja5.jpg

Here you go ;)
Haha thanks a lot =D
I found some more! woot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/ee80293d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/915f9593.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/248e604d.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/4624f87e.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/Todays%20Pix/more/5d545fb6.jpg

muck

11-13-2007, 04:09 PM

WTF is the guy on the left so small are only all others very tall?

Jarhead

11-13-2007, 04:23 PM

Looks like he is pretty small but that doesent matter, I know a lot of little soldiers, they are all great soldiers

muck

11-13-2007, 04:31 PM

Looks like he is pretty small but that doesent matter, I know a lot of little soldiers, they are all great soldiers
I did not question that. p-)

By the way, aren't the white gloves the soldiers are wearing on these pictures thought for roping only?

little icebear

11-13-2007, 04:35 PM

I did not question that. p-)

By the way, aren't the white gloves the soldiers are wearing on these pictures thought for roping only?

No. Fireresistent Gloves although used in the Navy. Not meant for roping.

He219

11-13-2007, 04:39 PM

Haha thanks a lot =D
I found some more! woot
Thought they looked familiar.
Check each of those posted image properties' filenames ..
;)

Source:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60025

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60003

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33662&highlight=schutzkompanie

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/6e63ce57.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Todays/Continued/08a0f76a.jpg

Ein Soldat der deutschen Schutzkompanie (SchutzKp) PRT Kunduz patrouilliert auf einer Strasse nahe des PRT (Provincial Reconstruction Team) in Kunduz im Norden Afghanistans am Montag, 10. Oktober 2005.

Kitsune

11-13-2007, 04:46 PM

Looks like he is pretty small but that doesent matter, I know a lot of little soldiers, they are all great soldiers

Well, they are certainly more difficult to hit...p-)