Afghanistan - Germany's contingent (56k be gone) !!!

[muck]

Nice picture.
Our Kettenhunde always come across as total badasses...

[shadoff]

Are you trying to say that he is an airsofter or are you saying that you own that gun as an airsoft?

I want to say that the picture airsofter with unreal g36. If I'm not mistaken, there should be spread photographs of real soldiers.

[variable]

And what exactly makes you say so?

[shadoff]

Real AG36
http://www.abload.de/img/hkag36-isbt.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/f3c58-ro7p.jpg
Besides the photo not real magazines.

Enough?

[muck]

I for one spot all the indicators except for the H&K-labelling, which happens to be hidden under the paintjob. So you're basically trying to say that the German Navy posts pictures of airsofters on its website?

[shadoff]

All I was trying to say, I said. This photo is not a real soldier and not a real grenade. Facts provided. Please provide a link to the photo on the official website of the Bundeswehr.

[muck]

That picture dates back a bit, I cannot be arsed to take the trouble. Besides, this is a thread for pictures and not time-costly discussions of doubtful purpose.

http://www.y-punkt.de/fileserving/PortalFiles/02DB131000000001/W27SMHLA862INFODE/2009_06_SKR_Leben-mit-dem-globalen-Einsatz_Patrouille_640.jpg

http://www.einsatz.bundeswehr.de/fileserving/PortalFiles/C1256F200023713E/W27CNFXH236INFODE/Patrouille.jpg?yw_repository=youatweb

[little icebear]

Nice picture.
Our Kettenhunde always come across as total badasses...

And she´s a hottie... p-)

[usedtobe_2T046B5]

All I was trying to say, I said. This photo is not a real soldier and not a real grenade. Facts provided. Please provide a link to the photo on the official website of the Bundeswehr.

It's highly likely a 40mm training round!!!:bash::-*$
I doubt that Airsofters/reenactors have access to the AG36.

But besides that, most Afghanistan pictures aren't even on the Bundeswehr webside.
So there is no evidence that this isn't a real soldier.

[radtkalon]

And she´s a hottie... p-)

...a hottie who could give you a proper kick in the arse!:)

[muck]

As all Feldjäger could.
Some comrades tend to talk them down but I have great respect for them. All I've met were very professional and highly motivated troopers.

[zulu261]

As all Feldjäger could.
Some comrades tend to talk them down but I have great respect for them. All I've met were very professional and highly motivated troopers.

I spent 3 months at their school in Bavaria and there I met the worst "comrades" ever.

[muck]

:| Well, obviously we've met different people then...But there are rotten apples in every basket.

[Karo]

I spent 3 months at their school in Bavaria and there I met the worst "comrades" ever.


I have to agree with him at this point. Absolutely.

[`Dead_MoZai`]

I for one spot all the indicators except for the H&K-labelling, which happens to be hidden under the paintjob. So you're basically trying to say that the German Navy posts pictures of airsofters on its website?
- airsoft version of AG36 with a handguard pin on a RS G36?
- an airsoft mag taped to another one(even if the second is RS)?
- the absence of a side rail/aiming device (what I have NEVER met on a RS BW AG36)?

Don`t all these facts convince you of the airsoft nature of this photo?
Who told you that this pic is taken/publisched/displays the German Navy?
(link to this picture on the German Navy site, plz!)

[Jarhead]

I spent 3 months at their school in Bavaria and there I met the worst "comrades" ever.
x2 on that one.
Had the FjgKp. next to our "Block" and Fjg were supporting us during guard duty every day.
I only met 2 nice Fjg during all that months.

[CptGonzo]

- airsoft version of AG36 with a handguard pin on a RS G36?
- an airsoft mag taped to another one(even if the second is RS)?
- the absence of a side rail/aiming device (what I have NEVER met on a RS BW AG36)?


- Huh? Where is the Handguard pin? As far as I'm concerned the real AG36 has a space where the pin went on the normal handguard.
- Maybe for training purposes? Just to learn to cope with the bulk?
- Seen that a couple of times.

[zulu261]

http://www.160th-soar.de/images/image-37744-galleryV9-igbn.jpg

[Herman the II]

Marder as a rolling bunker, nice.

[Zeckenteppich]

That is not a Marder, that is a Fuchs. Anyway I like that picture too.

[Akebono]

Yes, the picture is amazing!

[Swob]

To the airsoft Ag36:
I also noticed, that the carry handle isn´t the one you usally see on these G36ks,it is rather a carry handle of a G36c without iron sights.

Andeas

[CptGonzo]

To the airsoft Ag36:
I also noticed, that the carry handle isn´t the one you usally see on these G36ks,it is rather a carry handle of a G36c without iron sights.

Andeas

Swob, that CH is pretty common in naval units.
(btw, we know us, SAB)

[Swob]

It is not the "Aluminium Kurzvisierschiene" which is usually on the G36kA1.
Compare these two on top this page and you´ll see the difference ;)
http://www.sl-8.de/Rails/rails.html

Andreas

[`Dead_MoZai`]

- Huh? Where is the Handguard pin? As far as I'm concerned the real AG36 has a space where the pin went on the normal handguard.
- Maybe for training purposes? Just to learn to cope with the bulk?
- Seen that a couple of times.

- Huh? Take a closer look at the HK AG36 here
http://www.heckler-koch.de/media/Products/Special_purpose_weapons/ag36.jpg

and, and while you`re much concerned, show me the handguard pin in the HK AG36, which is present at the pic below ->

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7581/029ti.jpg



- Maybe for training purposes? Just to learn to cope with the bulk?
I very much doubt, that BW soldiers in A-stan who are issued an G36KA2+AG36 have not enough number of G36 mags to train with, so that they have to take airsoft G36 mags wit them to their deployment. rofl



- Seen that a couple of times.
Prooflink, please!

[CptGonzo]

Right. There is a change of angle in the sidesurface of the AG36. The handguardpin is located beneath the surface without the vent holes. You know, the complete vertical surface. Thus we are not able to see that pin in this pic.

And, btw, I dont even think that pic actually was shot in AStan. It has been quite a time since it was released by the BW and therefore I for one cant find a original source of it now.

As for the AG36 without rail, no pics on that but my personal experience. That was, however with a unit not deployed.

The airsoft mag confuses me too, though. My guess would be that this pic is either from a training in Germany, since I can remember a photo set which came out from a "Manöver" with all the fancy new weapons and stuff, or a Navy training around the horn of africa. The first option would explain the lack of the IdZ ballistic vest.

[Zeckenteppich]

Thanks every much, because I actually didn't think it is from Astan but some training exercise with empty mags.
And I got confused why they would shoot "Übungsmunition" with there empty mags in the rifle.

[Finnish eagle]

How many peacekeepers Germany have in Afganista?

[Roland_09]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force#Contributing_nations

The number given in this Wiki includes soldiers only. I do not know how many German police are in Afghanistan, but these would be instructors, not peace keeping forces, anyway.

[`Dead_MoZai`]

Right. There is a change of angle in the sidesurface of the AG36. The handguardpin is located beneath the surface without the vent holes. You know, the complete vertical surface. Thus we are not able to see that pin in this pic.
No, you`re wrong again.
The standard AG36 handguard has got NO upper handguard pin, which is present ONLY in the G36, G36K, G36C handguards.
These are RS:
(left side)
http://www.heckler-koch.de/media/Products/Special_purpose_weapons/ag36.jpg

(right side)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/GewehrAG36.jpg


And, btw, I dont even think that pic actually was shot in AStan. It has been quite a time since it was released by the BW and therefore I for one cant find a original source of it now.
No proof=BS.


As for the AG36 without rail, no pics on that but my personal experience. That was, however with a unit not deployed.
No proof=BS*2.


The airsoft mag confuses me too, though. My guess would be that this pic is either from a training in Germany, since I can remember a photo set which came out from a "Manöver" with all the fancy new weapons and stuff, or a Navy training around the horn of africa. The first option would explain the lack of the IdZ ballistic vest.
Proofs, plz!

[muck]

Back to the pictures please, this argy bargy is getting a) wearisome and b) this thread closed.

[JCR]

Actually Airsoft AG36 has MP.net meme potential
Perfect weapon for blood diamond pants wearers
:)

[variable]

As my last pic caused a lot of ruckus and commotion, I hope those won't :D

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8162/31816124.jpg

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4400/26538241.jpg

Can't talk about the whereabouts or ISAF or not but it's KSK personnel and they're present in the press and Afghanistan a lot lately so wtf...


Ben

[shadoff]

Apparently, this photo from training camp Kommando Spezialkräfte.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMx3IeLyhjc

[The Count]

As my last pic caused a lot of ruckus and commotion, I hope those won't :D

Can't talk about the whereabouts or ISAF or not but it's KSK personnel and they're present in the press and Afghanistan a lot lately so wtf...


Ben

this pics have been taken at a dog&pony show (either in hammelburg or in calw), so the pics are better placed here:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72275

edit: ooops, already been posted there...

[variable]

No problem, be my guest.

Here are of KTzG in Afghanistan. Surprise visit today.

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2594/kunduz2148.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2696/kunduz2189.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9528/kunduz4372.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4185/kunduz4380.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9040/kunduz4430.jpg


Ben

[Morris]

this pics have been taken at a dog&pony show (either in hammelburg or in calw), so the pics are better placed here:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72275

edit: ooops, already been posted there...


Those were made in Hammelburg->Bonnland
I was in Bonnland at that day aswell, we did classic Orts&Häuserkampf, was interesting to see the BO105 the whole day

[Rafter_Man]

Why on earth arent the mags suppost to be real? You can even spot the bullets inside them. I know that airsofters have mags with fake bullets but they sure as hell dont look loke that.

[Oswald74]

I first thought it was a real G36, but I can now say that this is airsoft.

See this pictures of an Classic Army G36:

With two airsoft mags:

http://lee.plankton.ch/AS_G36_ASMAG.jpg

With one airsoftmag and one realsteel mag with deko bullets:

http://lee.plankton.ch/AS_G36_RSMAG.jpg



Take a closer look at the height of both mags.

You can also see that "L" shaped corner on the airsoft mag, it's the same on the discussed picture.

Airsoft for a 100%, but a cool photo nevertheless!



MfG Lee

[zulu261]

I go with the airsoft theory aswell, but could we please stop it now? ;) **** happens with posting pics...

Looking forward to new pics...

[Tim292]

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/nightshift/NS-3/610x-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/nightshift/NS-3/610x1-1.jpg
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/nightshift/NS-3/610x2-1.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9193/610xva.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8373/610xyr.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3295/610xap.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3232/610xsy.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3075/610xz.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2150/610xn.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9093/610xxz.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7350/610xod.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3739/610xu.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5968/610xhh.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5812/610xtp.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/968/610xhj.jpg

[CptGonzo]

Awesome pictures, thank you!

That is Kunduz, right?
Also note: G3ZF!

[Herman the II]

Some pictures are form Masar-e-Scharif...

[b0sco]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6614/610xnny.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/89/610xdv.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/108/610xrn.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2351/610xcf.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4071/610xie.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3082/610xbc.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/475/610xdg.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4845/610xum.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6730/610xqc.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1174/610xov.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1610/610xjh.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6264/610xsa.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2086/610xl.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/106a70h.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/s5956w.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/zve98k.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2aif2p2.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/1624fpy.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/27zys5z.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/23swsg7.jpg

[JanusHu]

Thanks for all these pictures. German army always looks perfect.

I wonder why we don´t have the G36 A2 handguard in the spanish army. :(

[Macs.]

http://www.youtube.com/v/6iauXej6ozE

[variable]

Outstanding pics, I hope all comrades are safe and sound.

What's the guy on the left holding? Looks like a rather large scope.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8302/unbenanntun.jpg

(I know, amateur work...)

[Macs.]

Pretty sure it's a camera, so it should be a soldier from the Einsatzkameratrupp, which only would make sense since they originally were there to build a bridge...

[muck]

It's a camera. These guys belong to the Einsatzkamera Trupp, a speciality comparable to mass communication specialists.
I'd say they were rather there to make a documentary on the bridge rebuilding though.

//edit

Macs was faster.

[JCR]

I'm only afraid we'll never see that footage, in contrary to the often ridiculous video posts at the Bundeswehr website, like the classic "successful visit of logistics chief of ISAF to the tajik border" video...

[Herman the II]

Phoenix just aired some additional footage of that engagement. Seems most of the Dingos already have the new FLW100. Good news I say.
The firefight lasted for the whole day but because of the enemy activities the engineers couldn't finish the bridge. Today they will try again...
Godspeed.

[muck]

Now look at that...

Bundeswehr home page, right in the middle of the main page

Link (http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bwde/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd443DnQHSYGZASH6kTCxoJRUfW99X4_83FT9AP2C3IhyR0dFRQCsXOUq/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfQ18yVk1I?yw_contentURL=%2FC1256EF4002AED30%2FW27YRFJ8681INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp)

It's "just" the prolonged ZDF channel feature, but one cannot underestimate the significance of what they have done over there: They broadcast a video on their homepage which says "a guerilla war rages in Chahar Dara".

It seems like zu Guttenberg has rolled up the military's PR policy.

[Greither]

It seems like zu Guttenberg has rolled up the military's PR policy.[/QUOTE]

at least

[variable]

Germans under fire again; date Dec. 16th 2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkjcLmwC_U

[AirCommando]

Quote: ".....und sollte sich mal den Helm aufsetzen und sich hier zum Dienst melden".

Absolutely true!

[whiskey]

Quote: ".....und sollte sich mal den Helm aufsetzen und sich hier zum Dienst melden".

Absolutely true!

definatley!
such things should be shown in news at prime time, not at 00:00 pm...:bash:
whiskey

[b0sco]

http://i45.tinypic.com/14n1awh.jpg

[seventy6er]

Nice pics! I'm proud of our soldiers doin a fantastic job down there - besides that media-sh!tstorm here in Germany!

On a sidenote: how many MG4 have already been issued to the Bundeswehr by now? You see them in a lot of pics from Afghanistan these days.

[AirCommando]

http://i45.tinypic.com/14n1awh.jpg

This are Fallschirmjaegers. It was not the Panzergrenadiers involved in the operation? I´m a little confused about press captions and other statements. It´s a joint operation? Somebody can help me out?

[muck]

The operation involves 300 troops of 4th company, Mechanized Infantry Battalion 391 (4./PzGrenBtl 391) and paratroopers of unknown allegiance (probably FschJgBtl 263 though).

[radtkalon]

Is the MG4guy wearing rubberboots?
I've noticed this on some previous pictures (the last todays pics threat). They look like Knobelbecher somehow :D

[CptGonzo]

The shaft kinda reminds me of my Doc Martens boots.

I guess they are either some kind of standard issue boot, but I cant figure which.

[OABB]

its part of the personel equipment and called "Überstiefel". you can wear it over your standard combat boots to protect it form mud or water.

[Jarhead]

The operation involves 300 troops of 4th company, Mechanized Infantry Battalion 391 (4./PzGrenBtl 391)
Thats my unit!
Get some boys!!!

[radtkalon]

Thanks for the info. They've just reminded me of my Seestiefel (which are basecally modernized Knobelbecher).

[muck]

http://www.deutschesheer.de/fileserving/PortalFiles/C1256F87004CF5AE/W27YUC3F132INFODE/Bild1_1024px.jpg

[variable]

So many good pics lately, really awesome. Not so long ago, there were about four pics posted every other month (thanks to He219 mostyl, or Pille earlier) and fell over them like sharks :D Now there's so many, I can't decide where to start discussing and asking questions that need answering...

[Bleifuss]

Thanks for the info. They've just reminded me of my Seestiefel (which are basecally modernized Knobelbecher).

Same here , even got mine out of the storagebox.

[JCR]

Same here , even got mine out of the storagebox.

Lol, me too
Nice for this kind of weather

[variable]

Santa Clause pics from the daily pics thread:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9966/610xux.jpg


http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/298/610xyt.jpg


http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3617/610xhg.jpg


http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8702/610xqe.jpg


Thanks to "Jaeger1980"!


Merry Christmas:)

P.S.: I got the new DFB World Cup jersey and rubber floor mats for my car, I'm happy;)

[variable]

please delete....

[variable]

DMAX documentation about German ISAF:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG5R8ZdihEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493luXR0Gv0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ4WQHf4his

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckiakdiKOFk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo-NFUHrxxw

Seems to be rather old, as they talk about the "calm north"....anyway enjoy.

Ben

[Jarhead]

Its rather old, they are 13. Ktg.
Thanks for posting anyway.

[Akebono]

Nice Docu! Thanks for posting!

[variable]

There seems to be a xmas-hole in both the news and picturesection. Also Uli Gack obviously is not embedded anymore and on xmas-holiday home, so let me try to fill the fill the gap:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6568/89928074.jpg

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7038/43895404.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9803/83594521.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8496/69761401.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5086/19668913.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5167/28049971.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3030/82728187.jpg

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/8493/37905757.jpg

All pics by Julia Weigelt.

Ben

[muck]

Great pictures, mate!

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9803/83594521.jpg
That shot is especially dazzling.

"Smoking kills" reads a packet of cigs next to an infantryman's assault rifle which again rests on an armoured vehicle's hood in the midst of a war-torn country.

That sort of irony is sheer mindfvck.

[zulu261]

Any background info? Did they shoot their mortars for training purposes or was it "GET SOME!"?

[muck]

QRF training session in Mazar e Sharif.

[Herman the II]

1: Is that a German Fuchs?
2: What is the 50 cal. doing there?

http://www.youtube.com/v/DAYGdG9eOuI&hl=de_DE&fs=1

[zulu261]

1: Is that a German Fuchs?
2: What is the 50 cal. doing there?



Aren't the German Fuchs TPz multi colored, even in desert camo? That one looks plain sand colored. But I'm not sure about that.

It would be great to see the .50 BMG on our vehicles. The infantry is requesting it for a while now. Until now, only the KSK was using it on their Servals.

[Silent Reader]

Aren't the German Fuchs TPz multi colored, even in desert camo? That one looks plain sand colored. But I'm not sure about that.



i think the Spürfuchs - German Fox NBC variant in Afghanistan is one colored. But i could only find models of it via google

/edit

actually it also could be a US Fox - they used some in Iraq in desert camo with M2s

- just imagine it without the cage etc

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7843/landm93husseiniyahiraql.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7843/landm93husseiniyahiraql.jpg)

third option:

i think the Americans upgraded their foxes with remote controlled weapon stations - maybe we are testing their old M2 holders (?)

[Japsen]

Old but still nice to see :D

Am Rande des Krieges - Reportage (http://www.ardmediathek.de/ard/servlet/content/1440846)

[T.S.C.Plage]

1: Is that a German Fuchs?
Yes, the US NBC Fox has other smoke dispensers (the standard US ones you'll find on M1s etc.) mounted.


Aren't the German Fuchs TPz multi colored, even in desert camo?
There are also single colored ones.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2451/fox5e.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2451/fox5e.jpg)

[CptGonzo]

That is indeed very interesting...

Is there any chance of the flw200 getting mounted on the 1A8 Fuchs? I think that weaponstation has the ability of mounting the M3M, right?

[zulu261]

Yes, the US NBC Fox has other smoke dispensers (the standard US ones you'll find on M1s etc.) mounted.


Indeed. Thats great. Now we just need to clear up, if the M2 is fielded or if it just was some sort of test or something.

[Herman the II]

Indeed. Thats great. Now we just need to clear up, if the M2 is fielded or if it just was some sort of test or something.

If its not already fielded then its very close. As we can see the weapons are already in Astan and they wont be shipped there and mounted if there isn't the OK by the WTD testing agency.

Good news indeed. The weaponry for the Fuchs is getting more and more versatile.


--------------

PzFst:

http://www.youtube.com/v/9XhzX-dxoq0&hl=de_DE&fs=1

[T.S.C.Plage]

Two pics of US NBC Fox during Operation Desert Shield/Storm. I guess the weapon layout of the last one is some kind of interesting.

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8180/nbcfox01.th.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8180/nbcfox01.jpg)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1519/nbcfox02.th.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1519/nbcfox02.jpg)

[Germanfan]

1: Is that a German Fuchs?
2: What is the 50 cal. doing there?

http://www.youtube.com/v/DAYGdG9eOuI&hl=de_DE&fs=1


The sound of the video is in german. And yes, looks like a german fox with cal50.

Never seen that before...

[variable]

Found us some new stuff:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2899/image42936galleryv9kupv.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2565/image42938galleryv9eqpk.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4120/image42940galleryv9bcxi.jpg

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http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2674/image42975galleryv9ggbt.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/6804/image42989galleryv9jddr.jpg

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4373/image46336galleryv9tbaa.jpg

Some should be new:)

All pics by *******.

Ben

[Japsen]

thx, really good pics . The Kitty is alredy in this post somewhere :D ty

[CptGonzo]

Yup, I think that was the first german QRF's Kitty "Ebola" :D

Nice pics, thank you.

[OpiRox]

Thx, nice pics

[variable]

One more pic:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2765/image45003galleryv9tcso.jpg

Strange looking smocks. Looks heavy.

[variable]

Some ISAF propaganda; hopefully no repost:



http://www.abload.de/img/4196031209_7881693a68_ucnv.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196031869_a8229fa9aa_nh5q.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196032919_e693b7e367_ohp4.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196785194_e30031246d_7hg7.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196785894_690d23e051_qfgm.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196786264_5a4343191c_if1z.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196787056_5af5d6b4a6_4dym.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196787492_95b60db25e_dd5n.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196891814_a518341cfd_ogjs.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196892586_cc81b3e292_xdak.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196892296_a88662acc4_1gi6.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/4196892876_d44b310b4e_id9g.jpg

[zulu261]

Strange looking smocks. Looks heavy.

They tend to wear the body armor beneath it. If you than add another jacket (I don't know how cold it is there at the moment) you start to look like some random fatboy. :D

[variable]

Einsatzvideo part 3: http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bwde/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd443CvP1AMmB2MaBAfqREEYgXCwgBCIGVujrkZ-bqh-UkqrvrR-gX5AbGlHu6KgIACK2i4A!/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfQ18yVk1I?yw_contentURL=%2FC1256EF4002AED30%2FW27ZHEUS700INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp#par7

No combat footage..

[muck]

Interesting stills from the current "Mission Camera Video":

http://submiturpics.com/images/u4t3luklctusdsfmx962.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/mznlmux2qstux2p3ezjo.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/2mj691fzcvm2c8oyf1m.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/kr54bnko3731i3zo5tv.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/r64t6wotl5f6z90hpzp.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/6dmg1ih6m1rl0tqn8z.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/d2x68izqk71p826zy6v.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/bdyru9v8q5sp0zj19t2q.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/r6zcwijvmdaojiogki1g.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/kv6ves2f8lg1vle6r6hn.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/xantbjyb36ct8omhw7ye.jpg

http://submiturpics.com/images/m7ckc6mmt0utfpylaqg.jpg

[Zeckenteppich]

Interesting stills from the current "Mission Camera Video":
http://submiturpics.com/images/kr54bnko3731i3zo5tv.jpg


the G3 looks kinda funny compared to the G36. maybe it is cause of the granatelauncher at the g36:grin:

[radtkalon]

Thanks Muck!
Those are nice :)

[variable]

Do they have a real FOB by now?

[muck]

No, these pictures show a combat outpost a.k.a. "Höhe 431".

[JCR]

Now this is a badass G3!
Perfect support for airsoft AG36s ;)

[Japsen]

Think this arent postet yet, at least i hope so :P:
107169
107170
107171
107172
107173

[variable]

I guess all but pic 3 are already in here. But thanks nonetheless, mate!

[variable]

I found a huge gallery and nicked some of the pics. Those I guess I haven't seen before:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8441/610x9.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3120/610x8.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/792/610x6.jpg
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6882/610x5e.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8562/610x4v.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3064/610x3w.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6984/610x2.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1824/610x1m.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9677/610x0c.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3580/610x.jpg


Have a nice one, gentlemen..

Ben

[Japsen]

Thank you! Nice Pictures, are they availble somewhere in a better resolution?

[Sebkaem]

could anybody tell me where i can find more info on g3 in the german forces? found this picture on a german website and wondered which units still get g3 issued...

[Marsmann]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6882/610x5e.jpg

High Resolution please^^

[Monty_GER]

Surprinsingly a combat footage on the official BW-Website.

"Fallschirmjäger im Gefecht" (transl. "Paratroopers in combat")
http://bit.ly/bFEvFd

[b0sco]

Thank you, that is rare

[Herman the II]

Nice set of pictures from Kunduz, I currently cant upload them but they are worth a click.
The Marder in the new camo is really nice...

bundeswehr.de (http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bwde/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd443DnQHSYGZASH6kTCxoJRUfW99X4_83FT9AP2C3IhyR0dFRQCsXOUq/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfQ18yVk1R?yw_contentURL=%2FC1256EF4002AED30%2FW282LDU2618INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp)

[Anteater]

http://www.bundeswehr.de/fileserving/PortalFiles/C1256EF40036B05B/W282LD9L008INFODE/image_popup.jpg
Is that Höhe 431?

[muck]

Yes, that's the new combat outpost. One of many to follow if the news are right.

[variable]

Nice set of pictures from Kunduz, I currently cant upload them but they are worth a click.
The Marder in the new camo is really nice...

bundeswehr.de (http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bwde/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd443DnQHSYGZASH6kTCxoJRUfW99X4_83FT9AP2C3IhyR0dFRQCsXOUq/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfQ18yVk1R?yw_contentURL=%2FC1256EF4002AED30%2FW282LDU2618INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp)

Fixed that for you, Herman:)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7044/imagepopup1.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6506/76033807.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9854/42622566.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5504/75089079.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/261/13965602.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8049/40206540.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2074/82039472.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5024/69278091.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5457/37719941.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8302/92507163.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/641/59139107.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1707/75428901.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5312/74081283.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7870/16780569.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9379/91171784.jpg

[variable]

Why are they numbering the vehicles and what is the Duros role?

[zulu261]

Why are they numbering the vehicles and what is the Duros role?

AFAIK the BATs are using the Duro and the BV206 (Hagglunds). They stopped using the red cross, because they got shot at anyway and the cross is a perfect reference for aiming.

[Herman the II]

German UAV KZO (http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bwde/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd443DnQHSYGZASH6kTCxoJRUfW99X4_83FT9AP2C3IhyR0dFRQCsXOUq/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfQ18yVk1I?yw_contentURL=%2FC1256EF4002AED30%2FW27Y6KVJ234INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp) at PRT Kunduz.

[variable]

What's the difference between this so called "combat outpost" and a real foward operating base? Size? Fortification?

[Steak-Sauce]

Interesting. Most Dingos have a red canvas on their rear. Visual sign for friendly aircrafts?
And thanks for posting these awesome pics!

[little icebear]

What's the difference between this so called "combat outpost" and a real foward operating base? Size? Fortification?



http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/261/13965602.jpg


As you can see, you need an integrated submarine superstructure to qualify as a combat outpost. p-) Seriously - looks funny.

Seriously - combat outposts are smaller than forward operation bases.

[Tim292]

Interesting. Most Dingos have a red canvas on their rear. Visual sign for friendly aircrafts?
And thanks for posting these awesome pics!
Yea, identification for own aircraft.

[whiskey]

Fixed that for you, Herman:)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/641/59139107.jpg



any idea why he has no reflex-sight on his rifle?

[Japsen]

Maybe because the standart G36 Scope is enough... i dont know

[little icebear]

Maybe because the standart G36 Scope is enough... i dont know

Doubt that. My best bet would be that it is broken and no quick replacement at hand. But unless we ask the very soldier we can´t say for sure.

[muck]

Doubt that. My best bet would be that it is broken and no quick replacement at hand. But unless we ask the very soldier we can´t say for sure.Those exposed Kollimatorvisier sights get easily fogged up under cold weather conditions, maybe that's the problem.

[Difool]

Looking at the vehicles in the snow I'm wondering if they gonna change the camo to winter or keep the desert camo? I guess they leave it like it is. Who can tell me? Thanks.

[little icebear]

Those exposed Kollimatorvisier sights get easily fogged up under cold weather conditions, maybe that's the problem.

What? This was an issue with the HKV. Did you ever remove your HKV?

[muck]

What? This was an issue with the HKV. Did you ever remove your HKV?You're right. I totally missed the rails on the carry handle anyway.

So it's nothing but speculation in the end.

[radtkalon]

It will remain an unsolved mystery! :D
Honestly I am more wondering about the Sea King Helicopter hovering above my house at this moment!
It's quite noisy!

[radtkalon]

But sorry for being off topic!
Are there any news from the east?

[seventy6er]

DOn't know if those have been posted yet, if they have, consider this as a bump.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2710/4440866604_868a6e7129_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4440091241_af16b71c82_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4440091189_6f9241a572_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4440866430_c604c49509_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2709/4440091105_e084c065c6_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2688/4440091047_046c35f16b_o.jpg

[variable]

Interviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Q2lrlwvU4

Comrades with bad English and beards :D

[radtkalon]

Not the latest news but some fotage at least I haven't seen before.
The title is a bit missleading - no combat fotage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdMOYY4YPjY

[zulu261]

It's interesting that the media is covering the QRF only. The InfCoy there sees way more action than the QRF, because they leave the camp more often and go where the QRF won't.

[seventy6er]

Guy on the right at 3.03: helmet-cam??

[little icebear]

Guy on the right at 3.03: helmet-cam??

Yes.

12345678notabrokenpickelhaube910 :)

[Monty_GER]

At 3:05 you can hear the sound of an uav, possibly a LUNA.

[seventy6er]

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7870/16780569.jpg

Don't wanna sound like a smart-ass here, but wouldn't it be better to not have all vehicles concentrated at one spot (especially when there seems to be enough space)? Easier to hit for INS mortar-crews.

[Blackburn]

mmmh, loving the 5to GL in desert camo and the 120mm mortar! :)

[usedtobe_2T046B5]

Germans and Belgians on patrol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElurzJW2Awo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9onKCTFJKCg

[zulu261]

May my comrades rest in peace. :(

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9074/image74600galleryv9vegm.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/image74600galleryv9vegm.jpg/)

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5636/image74581galleryv9uvwp.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/i/image74581galleryv9uvwp.jpg/)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1009/image74582galleryv9jlqc.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/i/image74582galleryv9jlqc.jpg/)

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5245/image74584galleryv9sdfj.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/image74584galleryv9sdfj.jpg/)

[CptGonzo]

May my comrades rest in peace. :(

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9074/image74600galleryv9vegm.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/image74600galleryv9vegm.jpg/)

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5636/image74581galleryv9uvwp.jpg (http://img381.imageshack.us/i/image74581galleryv9uvwp.jpg/)




Bastards. Makes me kind of angry. Of course there are no pictures of the stuff the ISAF destroyed, because either there would be another scandal or we would be accused of being brutal and morbid.
We treat those Talebs way to nice...

[variable]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4300/31434376.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1743/73265862.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6206/84458394.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4751/19121962.jpg

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7933/72310849.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6370/47217489.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6011/91353632.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5479/26066073.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6148/48129378.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6692/33576417.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1659/99573968.jpg

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/9243/83996052.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2695/38953404.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4999/14468802.jpg

Thanks to "hummingbird" of whq-forum.de!

Ben

[Karo]

Thanks for posting these pics here, but maybe change/delete that picture where you can read his name due to PERSEC.

[variable]

He is a regular member of the armed forces and these are official photographs. No need to blur names or faces...

[hOMEr_jAy]

Good photos. They show the IdZ gear pretty well. From what branch are these guy and is it possible that the A1 version of the G36 are still being used? I thought they were replaced with the A2 version by now.

[CptGonzo]

Good photos. They show the IdZ gear pretty well. From what branch are these guy and is it possible that the A1 version of the G36 are still being used? I thought they were replaced with the A2 version by now.

I saw statistics at the WHQ-forums a few months ago, and I think it was like that the BW bought around 25000 A2 upgrades for the G36, most of them collecting dust in some weaponary, and 4000 MG4.
So that leaves around 225000 soldiers with the A1.

[hOMEr_jAy]

Yeah, most units are still equipped with the old A1 version (especially basic training companies), but I thought that atleast in Afghanistan they were being replaced by now.

[Jarhead]

May our brother's rest in peace.

[variable]

Check this out:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1013594/Die-Afghanistan-Luege?bc=svp;sv0#/beitrag/video/1013594/Die-Afghanistan-Luege


Cool footage!

edit: I just noticed the narrator is Brad Pitt ;)

[venom]

thanks variable. should be spread throughout the net and Germany.

[JCR]

Best documentary sofar.
Not so many talking heads, instead focus on the soldiers and their situation.

[variable]

You're welcome. It's going to be aired tomorrow evening on ZDF. 09:00pm i guess.

[muck]

Great docu.
The time when they're gonna air it is a shame though. This important issue deserves a better broadcast slot.

[zulu261]

Check this out:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1013594/Die-Afghanistan-Luege?bc=svp;sv0#/beitrag/video/1013594/Die-Afghanistan-Luege


Cool footage!


Great footage! Many of my comrades from Basic in there. Interesting to see them working.

[Akebono]

Thanks for posting, great footage!!

[radtkalon]

Check this out:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1013594/Die-Afghanistan-Luege?bc=svp;sv0#/beitrag/video/1013594/Die-Afghanistan-Luege


Cool footage!

edit: I just noticed the narrator is Brad Pitt ;)

Damn you were faster! ;)

[Th3Rul!ng@sS]

That's one very nice g3 he got!

[variable]

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1834/88090733.jpg

So everybody knows what you're talking about:)

M4 stock? How come?

[Th3Rul!ng@sS]

Thanks man, also notice the helmet and the aimpoint sight

[variable]

You're right. Not standard by any means.

Two more caps:

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3694/pzfst.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3796/99626968.jpg

[Th3Rul!ng@sS]

Maybe he's a marksman? Those still use g3 if im right

[variable]

I wouldn't know for sure but as a marksman he sure would've chosen a high power scope and no aimpoint? He propably just thinks the G36 sucks and sticks with the good old lady.

[Th3Rul!ng@sS]

Yea you're right, but the helmet still makes me wonder but that's maybe a private purchase or something

[CptGonzo]

I guess he is using the M4 stock because the G3A4 stock is a pain in the bottom end and only has 2 positions, correct me If I'm wrong.

This thing should have 6 positions.

[Roland_09]

More evidence that ZDv 37/10 is not in very high regard in Afghanistan. :)

[hOMEr_jAy]

More evidence that ZDv 37/10 is not in very high regard in Afghanistan. :)
If it´s "zweckmäßig" and works better than what the ZDv says, why not? ;)

[whiskey]

More evidence that ZDv 37/10 is not in very high regard in Afghanistan. :)

cant her/read this anymore, the 37/10 was pissing me off anyway, but in a warzone like afghanistan, you shoud be able to wear equipment that works for you...

@topic,
i dont think he is a marksman, he is using a red dot... thats not usual equipment for designated marksmen....

[little icebear]

cant her/read this anymore, the 37/10 was pissing me off anyway, but in a warzone like afghanistan, you shoud be able to wear equipment that works for you...
.

True to some extend. But for everyone who puts some thought into what he is adding to his issued gear, there are 5 posers who will pack gucci kit just for the high speed - low drag looks. We´ve even seen examples of soldiers, wearing cheap airsoft-crap right here in this thread. This guy´s pimped out G 3 however is übercool! p-)


Yea you're right, but the helmet still makes me wonder but that's maybe a private purchase or something

I´d bet that it is privately purchased. Along with the comtacs and his ballistic vest. If you could see that kind of gucci kit amongst some of the other members of the platoon I´d assume that it was issued - FschSpZg for example uses both such helmets and peltor comtacs. But since he´s the only one, I´m inclined to assume he is a hardcore-geardo. ;)

Plus: Whenever I´ve seen pictures of soldiers mit comtacs, they always used them together with their radios - he´s just wearing them for the sake of active hearing protection. Haven´t seen that before, apart from the shooting range at home.

[variable]

How would he attach night vision to it?

[whiskey]

he maybe uses the "head mount" instead of the helmet mount...

[little icebear]

he maybe uses the "head mount" instead of the helmet mount...

I have no experience with this particular helmet, but I´m pretty sure you could put the brackets for the Lucie on this helmet without any problems. At least I can´t think of a reason why it shouldn´t work.

[zulu261]

I have no experience with this particular helmet, but I´m pretty sure you could put the brackets for the Lucie on this helmet without any problems. At least I can´t think of a reason why it shouldn´t work.

I would say so. The LUCIE helmet mount consists of two hooks with a rubber strap. That thing fits on every helmet I guess.

Btw. I know many guys using airsoft plate carriers over there and some of them went to Kunduz more than once and that "crap" worked perfectly fine and way better than the IdZ vest.

[Mork]

So the IDZ vests arent that good?

[CptGonzo]

So the IDZ vests arent that good?

They are bulky.

[variable]

Anyone else thinks it's strange to converse in English with fellow Germans? I just now thought of that. I mean this thread is primarily visited by Germans.

Just feels funny to talk to possible next door neighbours in a foreign tongue:)

End of the mindfart...sorry for going offtopic.

[variable]

From today's pics thread, courtesy He219 (thanks alot!):

]http://i41.tinypic.com/6f5vug.jpg
What kind of salute is that?


http://i43.tinypic.com/4fubkp.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/205th87.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2ev8ch5.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8017/610xqm.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4131/610xea.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2845/610xwk.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7809/610xfs.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8257/610xve.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/242x077.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/o8ffbt.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/23rppp1.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/o9g5fm.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/1z15qfq.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/rlkkr6.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1726/610xms.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9093/610xxz.jpg

[JCR]

Salute?
Presenting arms without actually presenting it.
I was Ehrenzug on Gorch Fock (smallest guy in it ;)).
AFAIK really presenting arms is officially done only with Kar98K, and these guys have G36.
We usually did it that way and we had G3A1s with wooden stocks.

Btw, the Fallis with KTzG should be the platoon of the good friday ambush.
And the Americans are the Blackhawk crews.

[variable]

No I mean their hands raised horizontally to chesthight. I've seen this rather often and alwys wondered what it means.

[Herman the II]

Thx for that, first picture of the M3M in Atsan if Im not mistaken.

[JCR]

No I mean their hands raised horizontally to chesthight. I've seen this rather often and alwys wondered what it means.

As I said, that is what you do when somebody calls "Achtung präsentiert!"

[variable]

Ah, got it. Thanks. So it has no official name?

[JCR]

Präsentiergriff, I think, even if it really isn't a Präsentiergriff, only the "reduced version".
But I think you can't do the prussian one with a G36 anyway.
The Wachbattallion still uses the real one and our platoon leader tought us to properly present, as he was former Wachbattallion.

[variable]

Sidenote:

Kein Präsentiergriff mehr

Der Präsentiergriff ist in der Schweiz durch eine Verfügung des Verteidigungsministeriumsabgeschafft worden. „Niemand wird dem Gewehrgriff eine Träne nachweinen", bemerkte die Neue Zürcher Zeitung. Mit der Abschaffung des Präsentiergriffs sei aber auch „die 400jährige Epoche der Infanterie, die mit der Schlacht von Paria sich ankündigte und mit dem Aufstieg der spanischen Infanterie 1550 wahrhaft begann", zu Ende gegangen. Äußerer Anlaß für diesen Beschluß war die Einführung des Sturmgewehrs, das sich nach Schweizer Ansicht nicht zum Präsentiergriff eignet



googlesearch.... :D

[JCR]

Poor swiss army.
First they abolish the bicycle troops, now this
:D

[muck]

http://i39.tinypic.com/242x077.jpg Some 37/10 fanboys will be driven into a rage attack by this picture.

This picture shows the platoon which fought on Good Friday in Isa Khel. But the female Oberfeldwebel has Air Force rank tabs. Does the current contingent also include Air Force Infantry again?

[Herman the II]

She could be one of the German medics that were onboard the BlackHawks, just a guess though...

[Blackburn]

fvckin HATE her black hat. WTF is wrong with that AirForce chick?

... tittenbonus?

[variable]

They sure have a story to tell... I'd pay to hear it.

[muck]

fvckin HATE her black hat. WTF is wrong with that AirForce chick?

... tittenbonus?
Some 37/10 fanboys will be driven into a rage attack by this picture.Quod erat demonstrandum.

Why don't you calm down a bit?
As if the white caps of the guys on this picture were compliant to dress rules!

:cantbeli:

[Roland_09]

No I mean their hands raised horizontally to chesthight. I've seen this rather often and alwys wondered what it means.

It's what you do when you carry a gun on your shoulder. What else are the guys supposed to do? Salute with their left hands? ;)

Edit: Actually they are saluting with their left hands, but you know what I mean... :=

[zulu261]

Actually the first Obergefreiter I see over there on a picture. He's not even in the army for 12 months and has to fight already. I'm not happy with that...

Nonetheless good pictures. Badass looks ;)

[Zeckenteppich]

Actually the first Obergefreiter I see over there on a picture. He's not even in the army for 12 months and has to fight already. I'm not happy with that...

Nonetheless good pictures. Badass looks ;)

You don't know his story. sometimes you get promote a bit later. for example if the GeZi forgot about it or if there is no place for a HG at that time. I got promote after 16 months without doing anything wrong.

[muck]

Actually the first Obergefreiter I see over there on a picture. He's not even in the army for 12 months and has to fight already. I'm not happy with that...

Nonetheless good pictures. Badass looks ;)Last year, a Obergefreiter fell in combat in Chardara.

[radtkalon]

Disregard this post...

[zulu261]

You don't know his story. sometimes you get promote a bit later..

Could be the case, you're right.


Last year, a Obergefreiter fell in combat in Chardara.

I know, first reports back then stated that one or two of the PzGren were OGs but that was not true.

[whiskey]

my condolences to all families and rip to the fallen, may the wounded recover quickly,
its def. time for some kick ass down there, my blood is cooking right now.....


whiskey

[IronSkull]

Rest in peace soldiers, you paid the highest price. I hope the wounded get well soon.

And the rest down there: Good luck, stay save and get those terrorists!

[He219]

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German Bundeswehr army Eagle IV armoured vehicle stands at a field camp of German army Bundeswehr in Faizabad, April 15, 2010.http://i39.tinypic.com/210yefl.jpg
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German soldiers stand in the field camp of German army Bundeswehr in Faizabad, April 15, 2010, as they wait for the visit of German Defence Minister Karl-Theodor Zu Guttenberg, visiting the German Bundeswehr army soldiers of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. Four German soldiers were killed in Afghanistan when they came under fire near the northern city of Baghlan, the German Defence Ministry said on Thursday.http://i40.tinypic.com/vcutlf.jpg
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German Defence Minister Karl-Theodor Zu Guttenberg (C) speaks with soldiers as he visits the field camp of German army Bundeswehr in Faizabad, April 15, 2010.http://i43.tinypic.com/25yu6x1.jpg
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German Defence Minister Karl-Theodor Zu Guttenberg (L) listens to explanation of colonel Fritz Urban, commander of field camp of German army Bundeswehr in Faizabad, as they stand on a watch tower, April 15, 2010. Zu Guttenberg is visiting the German Bundeswehr army soldiers of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.http://i41.tinypic.com/m0f1y.jpg

German Bundeswehr army 'Fuchs' armoured personnel carrier stands to be repaired at a field camp of German army Bundeswehr in Faizabad, April 15, 2010. http://i40.tinypic.com/2jackls.jpg

German Defence Minister Karl-Theodor Zu Guttenberg (R) speaks with German army Bundeswehr inspector general Volker Wieker (L) and Brigadier General Frank Leidenberger during a stopover in Uzbekistan's town of Termez April 15, 2010. German forces suffered one of their deadliest attacks in Afghanistan to date when four soldiers were killed and five wounded after coming under fire near the northern city of Baghlan on Thursday.http://i43.tinypic.com/108cyrl.jpg

German Defence Minister Karl-Theodor Zu Guttenberg speaks on the phone during a stopover in Uzbekistan's town of Termez April 15, 2010. http://i42.tinypic.com/2881q3p.jpg

German defense minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg is getting informed via a cell phone in Termes, Uzbekistan, about the death of four German soldiers earlier this day near Kunduz, Afghanistan on Thursday, April 15, 2010.http://i40.tinypic.com/2sanlz5.jpg


RiP to the fallen ..

[Roland_09]

http://i40.tinypic.com/11id3lv.jpg

PK strong!!!!

First! Sorry, I just had to.

[cbreedon]

http://i44.tinypic.com/sgoldu.jpg


looks like the German camo has changed a bit. The officer in the middle, his uniform is different than the other's. I have one that is the same as the officer.

[Ibexan]

I think the officer's uniform is bleached out - nothing special.
But on Spiegel.de I saw a picture belonging to an Asthan-article with this picture:
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I haven't seen the camo before the Hauptfeldwebel is wearing. So what is it?

[Jarhead]

Wüstentarn....

[seventy6er]

I think the officer's uniform is bleached out - nothing special.
But on Spiegel.de I saw a picture belonging to an Asthan-article with this picture:
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I haven't seen the camo before the Hauptfeldwebel is wearing. So what is it?

Isn't that HFw Bruns who was killed two weeks ago?

[whiskey]

looks like the sabre-defence "KSK" smock:

http://sabre-shop.de/shop/artikel/5520-3,W%FCstentarn,S.html

[caleb]

Thought I'd share an interesting pic from a Spiegel Online video: G3ZF in use in Afghanistan.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4476/g3zf.jpg

[zulu261]

It's the Eagle IV that got hit with an IED causing three KIA on 04/15/10.

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6059/zerstoertereagleiv.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/zerstoertereagleiv.jpg/)

[whiskey]

my god....

[Zeckenteppich]

ach du scheisse

[JanusHu]

My god, that was be a huge IED.

[CptGonzo]

Holy fvck, I doubt a Fuchs would have looked different after a blast like that!

Probably multiple arty shells? Damn...

[JCR]

That was a VBIED, really...
I think either an aviation bomb or multiple shells.

[Roland_09]

VBIED = vehicle borne IED ?

[JCR]

no, a Very big IED...
I failed at acronyms :(

It definitely looks as if the IED was dug in, so no vehicle.

[Roland_09]

no, a Very big IED...
I failed at acronyms :(


And you still would have been right, mate. :(
There isn't much protection against that kind of blast. No chance for the 3 guys riding in that Eagle IV.

[variable]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4848/45307291264349110a4db.jpg
KUNDUZ, AFGHANISTAN - Aboard a German CH-53 Stallion, German Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg arrives in northern Afghanistan to visit ISAF troops. 15.04.2010
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KUNDUZ, AFGHANISTAN - Two German tankers wait for their convoy of German Marders to depart on a patrol. 12.04.2010
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KUNDUZ, AFGHANISTAN - A German Gunner aboard a German Marder waits for his convoy to leave on a patrol. 12.04.2010

Thanks to "hummingbird" of whq-forum.de!

[variable]

Found a rather new docu on PRT "Feyzabad" from April 2010.

http://www.ardmediathek.de/ard/servlet/content/3517136?documentId=4140148


500 deutsche Soldaten sind im Norden Afghanistans im Camp Fayzabad stationiert. Jeder Zweite kommt aus Marienberg in Sachsen. Reporter Michael Feldmann hat sie begleitet.

[variable]

OK having watched the vid now I noticed two things:

Mechanized infantry with mostly Eagles? Where are the Marders?

Mongolia to be part of the NATO? What pills did the narrator take?

[JCR]

1. Feyzabad is "quiet" (compared to Kunduz that is) so no Marders there

2. Mongolia is not NATO but has had "Colour" revolution in 2005 so they now pretty much do what Georgia etc does, pretending to be in NATO and pissing off its neighbours by being so utterly US friendly that it embarasses even americans;).
Only Mongolia manages to piss off two great powers (Russia and China) instead of only one like Georgia...
They had recent protests as well, but thanks to use of deadly force "democracy" prevailed.

[Japsen]

Feyzabad is also called "Bad Feyza" from germans because its so quiet there. My Uncle is working down there as a civil architect and he said, that he did not recognized any aussault of any "Taliban" yet and he is there since one year.

[Zeckenteppich]

first great pics from the marder and even it is bad fayza there still has to be someone.



Mongolia to be part of the NATO? What pills did the narrator take?

He sad there are from mongolia and their guarding job is a test to become a nato member some day.

[Astaran]

Feyzabad is also called "Bad Feyza" from germans because its so quiet there. My Uncle is working down there as a civil architect and he said, that he did not recognized any aussault of any "Taliban" yet and he is there since one year.

Well....there was a time when the Bundeswehr called Kunduz "Bad Kunduz", too. I wish your uncle luck and a safe return.

[Japsen]

Thank you, if he is back in Germany, i will ask him for media like Video and Pictures from Afghanistan (ISAF), if possible i will upload/link them here...

[CptGonzo]

Be careful about what you post then though...PERSEC/OPSEC.

[variable]

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6681/18310963.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7440/78663082.jpg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5351/23528984.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3761/64106687.jpg
Check the uparmored Unimog:) Cool!

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6969/43907456.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/309/10252690.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2272/73978191.jpg

Again thanks to "hummingbird" of whq-forum.de. Dunno where he gets all those pics from but I like them..

[variable]

New vids on bundeswehr.de:


Aufklärer im Einsatz

http://www.bundeswehr.de/portal/a/bwde/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLd443CvP1AMmB2MYBIfqRcMGglFR9X4_83FR9b_0A_YLciHJHR0VFAJMo5cM!/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfQ18yVk1I?yw_contentURL=%2FC1256EF4002AED30%2FW284JDPQ534INFODE%2Fcontent.jsp

[Herman the II]

Uli Gack in Astan, some interesting footage.
http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitrag/video/1025932/Deutsche-Soldaten-in-Afghanistan#/beitrag/video/1025932/Deutsche-Soldaten-in-Afghanistan

[variable]

I am beginning to be a fan of Uli Gack. I feel that he wants to do honest journalism and that he cares for the soldiers.

Thanks for sharing, Herman!

P.S.: The rolling Marder looks awesome.

[Astaran]

I am beginning to be a fan of Uli Gack. I feel that he wants to do honest journalism and that he cares for the soldiers.

Thanks for sharing, Herman!

P.S.: The rolling Marder looks awesome.

The Marder is awesome.
During my short stay at the Bundeswehr in Todendorf, I was able to see some Marders rolling to some sort of anti-aircraft exercise. They drove just a few meters next to me. What an incredible sound and feeling!

[hOMEr_jAy]

Even better is driving one ;)
Nice video, shows what´s going on in Kunduz. Like a member of my company said, those infantry guys manning the hills really, really deserve their 110 Euros per day...
Btw, from what I heard is Uli Gack relatively popular among the soldiers. I must say I like his way of reporting, he´s with the soldiers. I´d really love to see a report like Ross Kemp´s Afhganistan docu where he was embeded with the soldiers.

[whiskey]

Even better is driving one ;)
Nice video, shows what´s going on in Kunduz. Like a member of my company said, those infantry guys manning the hills really, really deserve their 110 Euros per day...
Btw, from what I heard is Uli Gack relatively popular among the soldiers. I must say I like his way of reporting, he´s with the soldiers. I´d really love to see a report like Ross Kemp´s Afhganistan docu where he was embeded with the soldiers.

even more better is having one roll over you (panzerüberollbahn) and doin driveby shootings from the rear hatches, god i loved my short stay in Oberviechtachp-)p-)p-)

uli gack is a good reproter i always like the way he is telling stories...

[zulu261]

Like a member of my company said, those infantry guys manning the hills really, really deserve their 110 Euros per day...


Yeah...but the guy sorting out the letters in the camp for 4 months also gets 110 Euro extra per day.

[variable]

Found pics of "MANTIS"-related stuff:

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7827/nahbereichsradarpop.jpg
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7163/mantismodellpop.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4811/luerpop.jpg

[hOMEr_jAy]

Yeah...but the guy sorting out the letters in the camp for 4 months also gets 110 Euro extra per day.
Yup and that´s a pretty weird logic...that´s why I´m pulling my imaginary hat off to these guys...


even more better is having one roll over you (panzerüberollbahn) and doin driveby shootings from the rear hatches, god i loved my short stay in Oberviechtachhttp://1.1.1.2/bmi/www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_pirate.gifhttp://1.1.1.2/bmi/www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_pirate.gifhttp://1.1.1.2/bmi/www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_pirate.gif
Sometimes I really envy you "green" guys ;)

[venom]

pls delete.

[venom]

it's good to see that the media coverage increases.Gack is a good guy

[CptGonzo]

Kind of OT, but I've just, for the very first time in my Life, seen an inflight CH53 passing low over my head.

Now, I've had that before with Hueys, Alouettes, EC135s and a Puma, but that the green giant is THAT massive...just wow.
Incredible awesome noise by the 6 rotorblades, too...
Damn. How high do you have to be to attack such a thing with an RPG? Speaking of the 3 mounted MGs!

[hOMEr_jAy]

Kind of OT, but I've just, for the very first time in my Life, seen an inflight CH53 passing low over my head.

Now, I've had that before with Hueys, Alouettes, EC135s and a Puma, but that the green giant is THAT massive...just wow.
Incredible awesome noise by the 6 rotorblades, too...
Damn. How high do you have to be to attack such a thing with an RPG? Speaking of the 3 mounted MGs!
Same here, yesterday one flew over my bloc, it was really impressive.
Too bad we have too few of them for Afghanistan...

[Roland_09]

Damn. How high do you have to be to attack such a thing with an RPG? Speaking of the 3 mounted MGs!

Do not overestimate the "shock & awe" (lol!) factor of these things. In the eighties, Mi-8 were shot down in numbers in Afhganistan, even before Stingers were around, though mostly with mg fire rather than RPGs. The mgs on a CH-53 are for laying down suppressive fire, but a CH still makes for a fat target, especially when landing outside of large bases.

Now, on the other hand, shooting at an Apache or another thoroughbred gunship, that's what I'd call crazy...

[Mackie]

See them several times a month because a area for low altitude flights is 300m away from my window. And the sounds sucks saturday morning.

[picanha the second]

Hej! Very nice pics of the Marder and from the WHQ guy!

Yep the CH53 is quite big as it can haul two Wiesels around..but I honestly don't know why they don't deploy more of them??? It's a mistery to me..I suspect "drückebergerei" and pretending to have some technical problems blablablub...the Bundeswehr is to bureaucratized "dienst nach vorschrift" etc. then all those civilans working there..everything is so slow.. :( I know it from personal experience....I would also order some Cougars as a stopgap solution from EC and let them pay for them or get them at a discount price! They have powerfull engines and have a service ceiling of over 7000m, that should be enough for Stan. They could be used for medevac infiltration and transport duties...later on you could still keep them as a CSAR platform.

Cheers

[radtkalon]

Yeah that's what I've been asking myself as well. Why not buy some Pumas or Cougars?
They're good helicopters used by many other armed forces, they're available, spare parts should be easy to get.
Oh well...

[CptGonzo]

The french are using their Pumas in the Stan quite successfully afaik.
Why we do not buy them over the other choices? My guess is Lobby.

[JCR]

If we buy Pumas or Cougars, lobbyists are afraid that the NH90 might be shelved alltogether.
Ok, there's a bit of justification in this:
The last short term "interim solution" of the Luftwaffe was the F-4F Phantom :D
On the other hand, we need helicopters now and not in 10 years.
The old conflict between arms procurement as a means to secure jobs and secure the defense industry versus procuring equipment the troops actually need.

[radtkalon]

Ja...of course it's the damn lobby. The Eagle IV is a good example for that as well. In the end we only got it because KMW didn't come up early enough with an own comparable vehicle.
Or the Puma; I'd say buy the CV90! But that's just my humble opinion. :roll:

[Astaran]

Unfortunately we can't deploy any Pumas at the moment, because the Bundeswehr doesn't fly this helicopter. Even if we would procure some today, we would need to train pilots and mechanics for years until they are officially "combat ready". Unless we want to stay in Afghanistan till 2025 the Pumas wouldn't be available for ISAF anyway. :)

Concerning the NH90: Well, honestly I'm so sick and tired of EADS by now that I would rather see American Blackhawks for our Bundeswehr than waiting another couple of years for a downgraded and overprized version of a helicopter which comes in far too less numbers. :roll:
The A400M should have taught us a lesson, but hey, since we want to be independent from foreign weapon-systems , I guess that's the prize to pay.

PS: All polemics are wanted and used for entertaining purpose only p-)

[variable]

Can you discuss this elsewhere please? So far, this has been a nice pic+video thread :)

[Astaran]

Can you discuss this elsewhere please? So far, this has been a nice pic+video thread :)

I apology :)

I found this great slide show on youtube about our Bundeswehr in Afghanistan and hope you accept this as a compensation ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/1Jkp78wWy44&feature=related

[radtkalon]

I've just found this one.

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"A German soldier sits next to candles lit to celebrate his 34th birthday, during a long term patrol in Yaftal e Sofla, in the mountainous region of Feyzabad, east of Kunduz, Afghanistan, early Wednesday, Sept. 16, 2009. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)"

[variable]

Man that's moving, sad and romantic. Dunno which overweighs... Good pic, thanks for sharing mate!