Rally In Washington State For Governor Recount!

[Geezah]

Citizens from across the State of Washington will be joining together next Tuesday, January 11, at 10:30 am at the State Capitol in Olympia to urge a revote for the Governor`s race between NRA-endorsed Dino Rossi and Christine Gregoire. Dino Rossi won the initial election by 261 votes and won in the first recount by 42 votes. After she requested a second recount, Christine Gregoire won by 129 votes. Aside from the fact that Ms. Gregoire lost two of the three counts, numerous irregularities have left a dark cloud hanging over this election. For instance, among other more technical issues, it has been documented that convicted felons cast votes and it is even reported that deceased individuals "cast votes." Additionally, King County had about 3,500 more votes cast than there are registered voters in the County and there are numerous reports that members of the armed forces who are overseas fighting for their country either didn`t receive ballots or received them too late to cast votes. There are way too many questions for this election to be certified and ratified as being legitimate. Please attend the Rally next Tuesday and visit www.revotewa.com to add your name to the petition urging the state to call a new election.

Link (http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegislation/Read.aspx?ID=1295)

[pistol]

Oh the hypocrisy. Maybe they should have Tom Delay come to the rally to explain to them how questioning election results is a "crime against democracy". :bash:

[HooyahCQB]

This a much closer election than the Presidential one, pistol.

[BarkingSquirrel]

Why is pistol railing against Republicans for election recounts, when it's the democrat loser that is inciting them?

[Geezah]

Oh the hypocrisy. Maybe they should have Tom Delay come to the rally to explain to them how questioning election results is a "crime against democracy". :bash:

I was just waiting for you to bite, you're really showing how ignorant you are now.
Lets see, President Bush slapped Kerry around with how many votes in Ohio, 100,000+?
Dino Rossi beat Christine Gregoire on two out of the three counts and to top it off you have convicted felons and dead people voting.
100,000+ is allot different than in the 100s wouldn't you say.

Just comes down to Republicans against Dems for you doesn't it :cantbeli:

[pistol]

Please,

This is a crime against the dignity of American democracy, and that crime is not victimless.

We are told, without any evidence, that unknown Democratic agents stole the Washington election and that its electoral votes should be awarded to the winner of some unofficial count instead.

Many observers will discard this "revote" petition as a partisan waste of time, but it is much worse.

It is an assault against the institutions of our representative democracy; it is a threat to the very ideals it ostensibly defends.

If, as now appears likely, neo-cons cry fraud and corruption every election regardless of the evidence, what will happen when one day voters are routinely intimidated, rights are denied, or, God forbid, an election is robbed?

What will happen, when, God forbid, this quadrennial crying wolf so poisons our democratic processes that a similarly frivolous petition in a close election in the future is actually successful, and the people of Washington are denied their right to choose their governor?

The Republicans must find a way to rise above this self-destructive — and just plain destructive — theory of politics for its own sake. The people of Washington, and their ancestors who invented our miraculous system of government, deserve better.

[[SAB]Grey]

Yeah nothing to see here in Ohio thats for sure :backhand: . Here's the latest from our Secretary of Partisan Politics:
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Jan. 8 -- The state's chief elections officer, accused of mishandling the presidential vote in November, sent a fundraising letter for his 2006 gubernatorial campaign that was accompanied by a request for illegal contributions.

A pledge card with the letter from Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who co-chaired the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign in Ohio, said "corporate & personal checks are welcome." Corporate donations are illegal in Ohio.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59572-2005Jan8.html

[usbabmc]

Please,

This is a crime against the dignity of American democracy, and that crime is not victimless.

We are told, without any evidence, that unknown Democratic agents stole the Washington election and that its electoral votes should be awarded to the winner of some unofficial count instead.

Many observers will discard this "revote" petition as a partisan waste of time, but it is much worse.

It is an assault against the institutions of our representative democracy; it is a threat to the very ideals it ostensibly defends.

If, as now appears likely, neo-cons cry fraud and corruption every election regardless of the evidence, what will happen when one day voters are routinely intimidated, rights are denied, or, God forbid, an election is robbed?

What will happen, when, God forbid, this quadrennial crying wolf so poisons our democratic processes that a similarly frivolous petition in a close election in the future is actually successful, and the people of Washington are denied their right to choose their governor?

The Republicans must find a way to rise above this self-destructive — and just plain destructive — theory of politics for its own sake. The people of Washington, and their ancestors who invented our miraculous system of government, deserve better.

Good point. However why do you blame republicans only when a DEMOCRAT SENATOR is openly contesting the presidential election results in Ohio? Is this the hypocrisy of the left in action?

[BigBaribal]

Ukrain should send some observators.

[Virus]

We were given the choise to choose our govenor, and Gregoire is a MORON. The last two recounts she LOST, and was asked to conceded but NOOO, and now all of a sudden they "found" some ballots and she wins now? Bull****..

So pistol the democrat pussies can get 2 recounts, but the republicans cant get one? Yet again, go fvck yourself :p

[Pralix]

Let's see...

King County had more votes than voters...where are the democrats on that. They were all over the "extra" votes in Ohio but they wont touch this one.

Provisional ballots being fed into the counting machines on election day with all the regular ballots.

Evidence of the dead voting.

Questions on when the military ballots were mailed.

I think there is enough evidence for a re-vote.

http://soundpolitics.com

[pistol]

Good point. However why do you blame republicans only when a DEMOCRAT SENATOR is openly contesting the presidential election results in Ohio? Is this the hypocrisy of the left in action?

The democratic senators are wimps.



We were given the choise to choose our govenor, and Gregoire is a MORON. The last two recounts she LOST, and was asked to conceded but NOOO, and now all of a sudden they "found" some ballots and she wins now? Bull****..

So pistol the democrat pussies can get 2 recounts, but the republicans cant get one? Yet again, go fvck yourself :p


1. The first recount was automatic
2. The democrats paid $730,000 for the second hand recount (however, since the vote changed, the democrats will get their money back)

What good would a third recount do? Count again by hand to try and make the numbers change? Do I need to quote Republican-hero Tom Delay yet again on why nobody should ever question elections?

[Geezah]

1. The first recount was automatic
2. The democrats paid $730,000 for the second hand recount (however, since the vote changed, the democrats will get their money back)

What good would a third recount do? Count again by hand to try and make the numbers change? Do I need to quote Republican-hero Tom Delay yet again on why nobody should ever question elections?

Hey rocket scientist, she lost two out of the three counts, so it's only fair to do another considering they found that convicted felons and dead people had voted!

[2Sheds_Jackson]

What good would a third recount do? Count again by hand to try and make the numbers change?

What good did a second recount do? It swayed the results.

The ballots have been counted 3 times so far.

There have been 3 different results.

1: Rossi by 261
2: Rossi by 42
3: Gregoire by 129

You're trying to tell me that you expect a 4th count not to come up with an entirely different result? The spread here is 390. Not 100,000, but 390. That's the number of people that fit into a McDonalds restaurant. And the number that Gregoire has "won" by would fit into a house (or maybe in this case, a morgue) ;)

Remember that this margin of 390 is not some number arrived at by rejecting some suspicious votes, or finding new ballots somewhere. This number comes from recounting the exact same ballots. They cannot even get the same number 3 times in a row from the same number of ballots. Of course a 4th count will give a 4th number.

IMHO when the margin is this small, the results this inconsistent, even a little ballot fraud would be capable of swaying the results. Again, we're not talking about 100,000 votes - just over a hundred. What does the law say in this case - surely they're not flying by the seat of their pants on this?

[Pralix]

There was a write in vore for Christine Rossi in King County. It was given to Gregoire. That ballot should have been tossed.

[pistol]

What good would a third recount do? Count again by hand to try and make the numbers change?

What good did a second recount do? It swayed the results.

The ballots have been counted 3 times so far.

There have been 3 different results.

1: Rossi by 261
2: Rossi by 42
3: Gregoire by 129

You're trying to tell me that you expect a 4th count not to come up with an entirely different result? The spread here is 390. Not 100,000, but 390. That's the number of people that fit into a McDonalds restaurant. And the number that Gregoire has "won" by would fit into a house (or maybe in this case, a morgue) ;)

Remember that this margin of 390 is not some number arrived at by rejecting some suspicious votes, or finding new ballots somewhere. This number comes from recounting the exact same ballots. They cannot even get the same number 3 times in a row from the same number of ballots. Of course a 4th count will give a 4th number.

IMHO when the margin is this small, the results this inconsistent, even a little ballot fraud would be capable of swaying the results. Again, we're not talking about 100,000 votes - just over a hundred. What does the law say in this case - surely they're not flying by the seat of their pants on this?

The law does not provide for another recount. The hand recount is the final tally.

[FallenAngel]

What good would a third recount do? Count again by hand to try and make the numbers change?

What good did a second recount do? It swayed the results.

The ballots have been counted 3 times so far.

There have been 3 different results.

1: Rossi by 261
2: Rossi by 42
3: Gregoire by 129

You're trying to tell me that you expect a 4th count not to come up with an entirely different result? The spread here is 390. Not 100,000, but 390. That's the number of people that fit into a McDonalds restaurant. And the number that Gregoire has "won" by would fit into a house (or maybe in this case, a morgue) ;)

Remember that this margin of 390 is not some number arrived at by rejecting some suspicious votes, or finding new ballots somewhere. This number comes from recounting the exact same ballots. They cannot even get the same number 3 times in a row from the same number of ballots. Of course a 4th count will give a 4th number.

IMHO when the margin is this small, the results this inconsistent, even a little ballot fraud would be capable of swaying the results. Again, we're not talking about 100,000 votes - just over a hundred. What does the law say in this case - surely they're not flying by the seat of their pants on this?

The law does not provide for another recount. The hand recount is the final tally.

I wonder if the law provides for another election?

[Hugh Jardon]

I live in the Washington Socialist State of Amerika and since this witch will be our govenor and have the Democratic legislature on her side tells me 2 things.

1}I am going to get a big one in the ass. Without vasiline because the state will not provide me with it.

2} I will be taxed so heavily that I will not be able to afford to buy a jar myself. :-*$

[limey]

I just hope all those taxes go towards teaching americans how to count !!!

:lol:

BTW - who did those dead people vote for ???

[FallenAngel]

I live in the Washington Socialist State of Amerika and since this witch will be our govenor and have the Democratic legislature on her side tells me 2 things.

1}I am going to get a big one in the ass. Without vasiline because the state will not provide me with it.

2} I will be taxed so heavily that I will not be able to afford to buy a jar myself. :-*$

Count your blessings. At least you don't live in San Francisco or Boston ;)

[Hugh Jardon]

Is vasiline outlawed there? rofl

I heard they were going to outlaw it here. rofl rofl

[Pralix]

Is vasiline outlawed there? rofl

I heard they were going to outlaw it here. rofl rofl

Vaseline with another common ingredient at a drugstore can be mixed together to form a plastic explosive filler. Maybe they will ban Vaseline in CA because it can be used by terrorists to blow things up.

[ViktorNavorski]

Hello all, I'm closely related to an already active forum member here and since I live and voted in the governor race, better add my $0.02.




What good would a third recount do? Count again by hand to try and make the numbers change?

What good did a second recount do? It swayed the results.

The ballots have been counted 3 times so far.

There have been 3 different results.

1: Rossi by 261
2: Rossi by 42
3: Gregoire by 129

You're trying to tell me that you expect a 4th count not to come up with an entirely different result? The spread here is 390. Not 100,000, but 390. That's the number of people that fit into a McDonalds restaurant. And the number that Gregoire has "won" by would fit into a house (or maybe in this case, a morgue) ;)

Remember that this margin of 390 is not some number arrived at by rejecting some suspicious votes, or finding new ballots somewhere. This number comes from recounting the exact same ballots. They cannot even get the same number 3 times in a row from the same number of ballots. Of course a 4th count will give a 4th number.

IMHO when the margin is this small, the results this inconsistent, even a little ballot fraud would be capable of swaying the results. Again, we're not talking about 100,000 votes - just over a hundred. What does the law say in this case - surely they're not flying by the seat of their pants on this?

During the hand recount, King County alone, somehow "founded" 700+ additional votes to be included in the recount. Considering that King County is the most heavily populated liberal county in the state, it doesn't take a genius to know who will win the hand recount with that turn of event. King County is the only county in the state where the auditor is not elected by the people. Do the math, heavy liberal county, non-elected auditor, draw your own conclusion.

Now, in five counties, evidences have show that the number of votes recounted are more than the number of registered voters. In King County, the votes recounted are about 1800 more than the actual number of registered voters. In Chelan County, where law suit were file against Gregoire, the Democrats have quickly file suit claiming the judge in the case is bias, delaying the proceeding until a new judge can be found. As long as they can delay the suit past 22nd of January and prevent any other suit from being file, Gregoire become governor permanently.

Since the result were reverse in the hand recount, the $700,000 that the Democrats pay to get the second recount is return to them. The taxpayers are force to pay the bill, Gregoire only been governor for a day and she is already costing the state money.