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Sayeret
01-13-2005, 07:29 PM
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun-2.jpg

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun-1.jpg

The XM214 Automatic Gun (aka the Minigun) was developed for use mounted in and on helicopters and light aircraft. Like most G.E. Gatling gun type weapons it has six rotating barrels and the potential for a absolutely incredibly high rate of fire. It is electrically driven, and has a firing rate that can be adjusted from 1000 rpm all the way up to a unbelievable 10,000 rpm. In addition to that, it can be set to fire bursts from 30 to 1000 rounds. A real drawback to the higher rates of fire is off course the huge ammunition usage (166 shots per second) , and the power requirements, because firing it at full power it requires some 3.2 hp to drive the barrel assembly.

First seen in the movie "Predator" in 1987, the hand-held Minigun has captured the harts and minds of He-Men everywhere, be it in games or in real life. The very image of Jesse Ventura as Blain, spraying bad guys with a veritable hail of bullets that issued forth from his Minigun Painless was so powerful that the weapon has been seen in both countless other movies *and* in games.

Even in real life the idea caught on surprisingly well. Apparently some of America`s Special Forces guys saw Predator and realized that a hand-held Minigun would be a great asset for clearing out landing zones real fast. Having ample acces to the needed equipment, they started experimenting. And ran into some problems.
The first was that the Minigun weighed in at thirty pounds, which was heavy, but carryable. A backpack with a thousand rounds of ammunition and a linkless belt to the Minigun weighed in at another thirtyfive pounds. Backpacks with two thousand rounds weighed in at sixtyfive pounds, and were totally unrealistic in size. Just the gun and the ammo weighed in at sixtyfive pounds.
The second was that in the movie, the power for the Minigun had been supplied by a pair of truck batteries through a cable that simply ran over the ground, and up into the Minigun. Since those batteries weighed some 30 pounds each, it was obvious that only one could be carried by one person (in addition to all the other equipment the soldier was to carry). Thus, the weapon could never be fired at its full rate of fire.
The third problem was that even at "only" a 1000 rpm rate of fire the gun produces about 11 kg of recoil *continuesly*! And this amount of force increases geometrically in proportion to the rate of fire. Firing a large burst would result in the gunner being spun around by his own weapon, and spraying everything around him indiscriminately with bullets. Including his own comrades.....

After some experimenting it was thus realized that the gun would simply be too heavy and cumbersome to be ever used in real life combat, and the concept was abandoned. No army in the world has a hand-held Minigun in its arsenal.

But, this was for real life. In games, where the gun-toting heroes all have physiques like Jesse Ventura and regularly mow down armies of enemies, a portable Minigun might be feasable. If we take into account that in recent years some manufacturers have made NiCad battery belts for use with Video cameras which weigh much less than truck batteries and can supply enough power to fire a thousand rounds at a firing rate of roughly 2,100 rpm before being empty, the weight problem is slightly allieved. Such a belt will weigh in at around six to eight pounds, as opposed to the sixty pounds for the old Truck batteries. It should be noted that such a battery belt would be completely discharged after firing a thousand rounds, and will require some three to four hours of recharging.
As for the recoil and aiming trouble, in a game a Game Master might simply give the user of such a weapon a appropriate penalty on his firing skills (if any, the weapon has Munchkin written all over it...), and be done with it.
With the weight of the weapon, ammunition, and power supply down to around seventy two pounds, the player gets a weapon which which will fire a thousand rounds in less than thirty seconds, is large and ungainly, and is guaranteed to scare the crap out of anyone he points it at.

Note: Even in a game, this weapon is military issue only! Should you wish to use it in a game, you should keep in mind that not only will it be very difficult to find the weapon (in real life the military guards its Miniguns like they are made of solid gold...), but firing such a weapon with any degree of accuracy should also take inordinate amounts of skill, and the physique of a strong athlete.

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Belt.jpg

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun.htm

Michael RVR
01-14-2005, 02:21 AM
Actually it was developed before the movie (whod'a thunk it), and the copy used in the movie was a blank firing version of it.

In real life, even "inordinate amounts of skill, and the physique of a strong athlete" isn't enough to control the recoil of that thing, even though it is in 5.56mm.

SuperTrooper
01-14-2005, 02:41 AM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/SuperTrooper/DSC_1778.jpg

One handed, first time in movie history, it's in .308 and runs at around 3000rpm.

Resident Evil 2, it's on the photo section.

tenda
01-14-2005, 09:22 AM
..... remind me predator...!! ;)

ElHombre
01-14-2005, 12:07 PM
it still has a power cable running from it. :lol:

REMOV
01-14-2005, 12:09 PM
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun-2.jpg

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Machine-Guns/GE_XM214_Minigun-1.jpgEkhm... Sayret, none of weapons above aren't 5.56mm XM214 SixPac (sometimes called MiniMiniGun). This is old, all known 7.62mm M134 Minigun.

http://www.military.cz/usa/weapons/guns/kulomety/minigun/xm214_01.jpg
http://www.military.cz/usa/weapons/guns/kulomety/minigun/xm214_02.jpg
http://www.military.cz/usa/weapons/guns/kulomety/minigun/xm214_03.jpg
That are pictures of 5.56mm XM214, check the barrel details.

cold0
01-14-2005, 12:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/SuperTrooper/DSC_1807.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/SuperTrooper/DSC_1778.jpg

One handed, first time in movie history, it's in .308 and runs at around 3000rpm.

Resident Evil 2, it's on the photo section.

More than Predator, it remembers me WH 40K, the futuririble tri-dimensional game of Games Workshop and the Terminator Space Marine, a sort of super human with a duturistic battle- armor
But I know, GW has copied all tha aspects of the Sci-Fi of the last 30 years.

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big_les
01-14-2005, 07:46 PM
Actually it was developed before the movie (whod'a thunk it), and the copy used in the movie was a blank firing version of it.

In real life, even "inordinate amounts of skill, and the physique of a strong athlete" isn't enough to control the recoil of that thing, even though it is in 5.56mm.

Who made it then, and for what? It's been a while since I watched my DVD with commentary but I was under the impression it was developed and made as a man-portable blank-firer for the movie. As I remember them saying and logic dictates, there's no way a live-firing man-portable one would be feasible.

MEGR
01-14-2005, 08:31 PM
I wonder if the military ever tried this minigun concept with smaller calibers such as 9mm or .22?

American Patriot
01-14-2005, 09:05 PM
A minigun with a range of 100 yards on the battlefield? No thx :)

beNder
01-14-2005, 11:05 PM
interesting...

martinexsquaddie
01-17-2005, 05:26 AM
there's an airsoft version cost about $5000 don't know its rate of fire or how the hell it works .
but its kinda cool in a compeletly mad sort of way

bubkusjones
01-17-2005, 01:40 PM
I saw a video of an airsoft minigun wasting a TV. It was pretty cool.

Jabroni
08-03-2006, 02:36 PM
I saw a video of an airsoft minigun wasting a TV. It was pretty cool.Was it a big silver thing?, If it is ,It is the Venom Minigun and uses C02.

http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/venom/
http://www.montysminiguns.com/AirSoftPage.htm
About the 'Predator' Minigun, I noticed the HandHeld attachment has an M60 GPMG grip underneath, Why was it held like a 'Chainsaw' in
Terminator 2?

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/9864/miniguntn5.jpg

wamp
08-03-2006, 04:04 PM
Always fun to watch them fire at Knob Creek or in the Dillion videos. Would hate to foot the bill for the ammo though. I posted a link awhile back where a Class III dealer had one for sale

Jabroni
08-03-2006, 04:35 PM
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3538/minigunag1.jpg

PvtPyle
08-03-2006, 06:12 PM
Who ever wrote that article has no idea what they are talking about. Not only is the minigun in 7.62X51, it can not be fired from the hip as seen in the movies, and they cost a whole lot more than $25,000. Even for a post 86 dealers sample. We have sold two of them and they are WAY more than that. Even the new ones being made this fall by another company (though just as good as the originla or the Dillion guns) are still nearly twice that much.

The miniguns were used as early as the mid 60's on aircraft in Vietnam.

Take the article for what it is, crap. Heck, they couldn't even ge the name of the gun right. It is XM-134 or GAU-2/A, or GAUSE-17/A, or MK-25 MOD 0 depending on which version it is or who is using it. NOT XM-214. That one is 5.56 and saw limited production and was not used in Predator.

ReggayMC
08-05-2006, 03:36 PM
made by the same people who make my fridge and washing machine?

czr
08-05-2006, 10:39 PM
Has anyone ever experimented with mounting a mini gun on a tank as its main cannon, or is this idea rubbish?

James
08-06-2006, 12:03 AM
Way to resurrect an old thread guys.

Tony Williams
08-07-2006, 03:39 AM
Has anyone ever experimented with mounting a mini gun on a tank as its main cannon, or is this idea rubbish?

The closest effort was an experimental AA tank with a 37mm rotary gun, the Vigilante (see below), which was built towards the end of the 1950s.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk) and discussion forum (http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/)

czr
08-07-2006, 04:35 PM
Very interesting, thanks!

Tony Williams
08-08-2006, 03:06 AM
Very interesting, thanks!

If you want to read more about it, and see more photos, there's an article on my website HERE (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/RED%20QUEEN.htm)

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk) and discussion forum (http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/)

Luno
08-08-2006, 07:04 AM
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3538/minigunag1.jpg


Isnít that the gun that the big nasty monster uses in resident evil 2 (the movie) :)

Masai
08-08-2006, 07:13 AM
yes it is. The Nemesis project.

akmarksman
08-10-2006, 06:15 AM
They're using miniguns on hummers over in the sandbox..there's pictures floating around MP.net

Jabroni
08-11-2006, 06:50 PM
Though i prefer NATO stuff, Id like to know more about the Shipunov GshG-7.62 4 Barrel Minigun

Tried to discuss about it here

http://www.securityarms.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20709