Today's Pic's. Oct. 22

[He219]

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Soldiers of U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division looks at a weapons they found during a weapon search operation in the village of Hamra, about 20 km (12 miles) northeast from Tikrit, Iraq, Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. U.S. soldiers detained several suspects believed to involved in deadly attacks on American troops and uncovered a weapons cache buried in the farming community during raids early Wednesday near Saddam Hussein's hometown. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)


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Soldiers of U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division blindfold a suspect with his hands tied behind his back during a weapon search operation in the village of Hamra, about 20 km (12 miles) northeast from Tikrit, Iraq, Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. U.S. soldiers detained several suspects believed to involved in deadly attacks on American troops and uncovered a weapons cache buried in the farming community during raids early Wednesday near Saddam Hussein's hometown. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)


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British soldiers stop an Iraqi man from greeting his relative after Iraqi refugees returned back to the southern Iraqi city of Basra, Tuesday Oct 21, 2003. About 650 Iraqis left a refugee camp in northern Saudi Arabia where they have lived for the past 12 years. Several groups of Iraqis have returned home since U.S.-led forces ousted President Saddam Hussein's regime in April, including 450 people last month. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)


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Bulgarian soldiers patrol the holy city of Karbala, south of Baghdad, following an overnight raid involving US-led coalition troops. Thirty two people as well as three sheikh followers of firebrand cleric Moqtada Sadr who had holed up in a mosque in Karbala were detained.(AFP/Sabah Arar)

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Philippine and Polish (C) soldiers guard the entrance to Mokhayam mosque, scene of mass arrests October 21, 2003 in the holy Iraqi city of Kerbala. The mosque, which contains an office of radical Shi'ite leader Moqtada al Sadr, was raided by forces of the U.S. led coalition early Tuesday and at least 10 people were arrested. *******/Jamal Saidi
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Afghan militia wait to turn in their weapons at a military base in Kunduz, Afghanistan on Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. A long-awaited U.N.-sponsored project to disarm, demobilize and reintegrate 100,000 soldiers across Afghanistan was under way in the north, a key step to bringing eventual peace to this war-torn country. The "New Beginnings Program," which lets soldiers exchange their weapons for jobs, began in the northern province of Kunduz on Monday. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel, POOL)

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Afghan militia wait to turn in their weapons at a military base in Kunduz, Afghanistan on Wednesday Oct. 22,2003.

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An Afghan defense ministry officer (L) checks a weapon being turned over by an Afghan militia soldier at a military base in Kunduz, Afghanistan October 22, 2003. A long-awaited U.N.-sponsored project to disarm, demobilise and reintegrate 100,000 soldiers across Afghanistan was under way in the north, a key step to bringing eventual peace to this war-torn country. The "New Beginnings Program," which lets soldiers exchange their weapons for jobs, began in the northern province of Kunduz this week. *******/Richard Vogel/Pool


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US Special Force soldiers guard the perimeter where US Secretary of State Colin Powell was holding talks with the Sudanese parties near the Kenyan town of Naivasha on Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. Powell was meeting the Sudanese parties to push them to reach a comprehensive agreement to end the 20-year civil war in Sudan. (AP Photo/Sayyid Azim)


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South Korean Army soldiers aim their machine guns during the annual exercise against possible North Korean attack at a subway station in Seoul, Tuesday, Oct. 21, 2003. Pacific Rim leaders called Tuesday for a restart of multinational talks to resolve the North Korean nuclear standoff, a crisis that gained urgency during the annual APEC meeting as the North test-fired at least one short-range missile. (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon).

[rangerone]

http://news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448397

Dont you just love the Iraqi weapon technology? :P WWII era German weapons. Nice ;)

[Seoulstriker]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448377

i'm not even going to try to guess. :P

[volfram]

http://news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448397

Dont you just love the Iraqi weapon technology? :P WWII era German weapons. Nice ;)
Mg42 is still very good weapon.Mg3 version of mg 42 is still used by many countrys today like Germany or Italy.

[GAFE]

HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!

[FallenAngel]

HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

As for the Powell's gaurds...maybe it's that State Dept. Protection unit? ;)

[wulfstan]

Is that a Mauser 98? A good rifle, granted, you'd have to kill your target with the first shot otherwise the modern soldier would pour so much fire down on your position you'd be in trouble.
I reckon those weapons are souvenirs/heirlooms, and not dangerous tools used against the coalition;)

[Skaman]

werent the iraqis using mg 42's also?

[ArmoredDov_D9]

"koo-koo, where am I?" :P

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An Israeli soldier looks through a camouflage net in a military post in the West Bank city of Hebron Wednesday , Oct. 22, 2003. A Palestinian gunman wounded two Israeli settler security guards at Tel Romeida, a tiny heavily guarded Jewish enclave in Hebron before being shot dead, Jewish settlers and the army said. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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An Israeli soldier, background, patrols the Israeli controlled part of the southern West Bank city of Hebron as an armed Jewish settler walks past following a palestinian militant's attack, Wednesday , Oct. 22, 2003. The gunman wounded two Israeli settler security guards at Tel Romeida, a tiny heavily guarded Jewish enclave in this tense West Bank city before being shot dead, Jewish settlers and the army said. Some 400 Jewish settlers live in enclaves in the center of Hebron, surrounded by 130,000 Palestinians. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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An unidentified woman comforts a loved one, wounded during a shooting attack in the West Bank city of Hebron, as paramedics carry him to a Jerusalem hospital Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. A Palestinian gunman wounded two Israeli settler security guards at Tel Romeida, a tiny heavily guarded Jewish enclave in this tense West Bank city before being shot dead, Jewish settlers and the army said. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

More pictures from the incident in Tel Rumeyda in Hebron:
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The two wounded Israelis.

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The bullet-riddled car.

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The dead terrorist.

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

[spier]

werent the iraqis using mg 42's also?Don't know about the iraqis, but the iranians have produced local varaiants of most german small arms(MP5, G3, Mg3 and so on).

[budanski]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

[Seoulstriker]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

yikes! that's grapic. :|

[AirZone]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

yikes! that's grapic. :|

bullseye rofl

[Operation Ivy]

http://news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448397

Dont you just love the Iraqi weapon technology? :P WWII era German weapons. Nice ;)
Mg42 is still very good weapon.Mg3 version of mg 42 is still used by many countrys today like Germany or Italy.


do i see a STG44 in that pic?

[ChuckThunder]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448377

i'm not even going to try to guess. :P

DSS MSD.

[usa320]

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Yep- DSS.

Now adays its nearly impossible to tell the difference between SFOD, Dyncorp, CIA and DSS- they all pretty much use the same gear- and guns.

[EvanL]

It says on Yahoo news that they are Army SF. Why must we always jump to conclusions about who it is when it is almost always the simplest answer?

[Seoulstriker]

It says on Yahoo news that they are Army SF. Why must we always jump to conclusions about who it is when it is almost always the simplest answer?

it's on Sudanese soil. i don't think army SF would be involved in this kind of thing. not even SFOD-D would do this...

what does DSS stand for?

[EvanL]

Well it said in plain bold letters on Yahoo news that they were Army SF. And i would trust that source much more than the people on this site, (excepting the real military personnel).

[Seoulstriker]

Well it said in plain bold letters on Yahoo news that they were Army SF. And i would trust that source much more than the people on this site, (excepting the real military personnel).

Yahoo also has wrong captions... like one time they said that some guys were fast-roping when it was obvious they were being 'extracted' from an area by the cord.

[ArmoredDov_D9]

Well it said in plain bold letters on Yahoo news that they were Army SF. And i would trust that source much more than the people on this site, (excepting the real military personnel).

Yahoo also has wrong captions... like one time they said that some guys were fast-roping when it was obvious they were being 'extracted' from an area by the cord.

They can't even tell the difference between an APC and a tank.

[budanski]

What a bunch of yahoos!!

[Seoulstriker]

What a bunch of yahoos!!

:hug:

[JohnJohn]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

yikes! that's grapic. :|

bullseye rofl

:cantbeli:

that was hilarious rofl :lol: rofl

[Seoulstriker]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

yikes! that's grapic. :|

bullseye rofl

:cantbeli:

that was hilarious rofl :lol: rofl

quite a headshot.

[AirZone]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

yikes! that's grapic. :|

bullseye rofl

:cantbeli:

that was hilarious rofl :lol: rofl

quite a headshot.

indeed rofl rofl rofl

[Flagg]

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GAFE wrote:
HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!


FALLENANGEL wrote:

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

I could be wrong.......but that thing looks like an SA-7 Grail MANPADS or some version of it......Egyptian, Pakistani, and Chinese made versions were supposedly used in the Russian/Afghan conflict and I would have no idea if they differed in design/profile than the Russian made version.

Anyone know for sure?

If it is an SA-7 it's great to see another one "off the street"...hopefully the guy turning it in gets a bonus

[Seoulstriker]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031022/capt.kab10110220945.afghanistan_disarmament_kab101.jpg


GAFE wrote:
HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!


FALLENANGEL wrote:

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

I could be wrong.......but that thing looks like an SA-7 Grail MANPADS or some version of it......Egyptian, Pakistani, and Chinese made versions were supposedly used in the Russian/Afghan conflict and I would have no idea if they differed in design/profile than the Russian made version.

Anyone know for sure?

If it is an SA-7 it's great to see another one "off the street"...hopefully the guy turning it in gets a bonus

it's definitely a SAM launcher, but I'm not really sure of the russian designations.

[irishmike21]

what does Dss stand for??

[Seoulstriker]

what does Dss stand for??

that's what i asked. :P

[FallenAngel]

Warning! Graphic content! Close up on the terrorist corpse. (http://212.199.221.100/imageserver/yeshanews/L0.244564001066840642) That was a headshot!

Too much Pop-Rock candy will do that to ya.

yikes! that's grapic. :|

bullseye rofl

Should post that pic in every Palestinian town and label it "One way ticket to 72 virgins." woot

[ibstolidude]

DSS = Diplomatic Security Services as is often used for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (part of the Dept. of Sate).. which is responsible for providing a secure environment for the conduct of American diplomacy.


But also DSS = Defense Security Services, which was DIS. But I would gnader people are using DSS to mean the Diplomatic Security Service.

[Seoulstriker]

DSS = Diplomatic Security Services as is often used for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security (part of the Dept. of Sate).. which is responsible for providing a secure environment for the conduct of American diplomacy.


But also DSS = Defense Security Services, which was DIS. But I would gnader people are using DSS to mean the Diplomatic Security Service.

oh, i see. woot :hug:

[He219]

;)

Some more pic's....



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A soldier from the Alpha Company, 1st 325 Airborne Infantry Regiment, waits for orders from the squad leader during squad tactics course at Kursah Range, Iraq, Oct. 18, 2003. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Stacy L. Pearsall)

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A soldier from the Alpha Company, 1st 325 Airborne Infantry Regiment, fires his weapon at different targets during the squad tactics course at Kursah Range, Iraq, Oct. 18, 2003. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Stacy L. Pearsall) (released)

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Pfc. Edward Meyers, machine gunner, Alpha Company, 1st 325 Airborne Infantry Regiment, fires on the targets during the squad tactics course at Kursah Range, Iraq, Oct. 18, 2003. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Stacy L. Pearsall) (released)


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A U.S. special forces soldier watches as an observer while Afghan militia wait in line to turn in their weapons at a military base in Kunduz, Afghanistan on Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. A long-awaited U.N.-sponsored project to disarm, demobilize and reintegrate 100,000 soldiers across Afghanistan was under way in the north, a key step to bringing eventual peace to this war-torn country. The "New Beginnings Program," which lets soldiers exchange their weapons for jobs, began in the northern province of Kunduz on Monday. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel, POOL)

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An Apache Israeli army helicopter gunship flies low over the Israeli controlled part of the southern West Bank city of Hebron following a Palestinian militant's attack, Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. The gunman wounded two Israeli settler security guards at Tel Romeida, a tiny heavily guarded Jewish enclave in this tense West Bank city before being shot dead, Jewish settlers and the army said. Some 400 Jewish settlers live in enclaves in the center of Hebron, surrounded by 130,000 Palestinians. (AP Photo/Oded Balilty)

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Razor wire blocks off an Israeli patrol road which runs along what is to eventually be continuous with Israel's extensive seam barrier fence, on Jerusalem's southern outskirts, on the border of the Palestinian West Bank and Israel-controlled Jerusalem, Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. On Wednesday, the U.N. General Assembly approved a resolution demanding that Israel remove the in-progress barrier which Israel says is needed to protect it from suicide bombers. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

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Indian Black Cat commandoes escort civilians outside the Parliament House complex in New Delhi, India, Thursday Dec. 13, 2001. Gunfire and explosions erupted at India's Parliament House as half a dozen armed men stormed the complex. India unveiled major proposals Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 to improve relations with Pakistan, expanding travel and reuniting families. The ****ouncements by Foreign Minister Yashwant Sinha were the most extensive efforts so far to heal the wounds from the December 2001 attack on India's parliament complex. (AP Photo/John McConnico)

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Prime Minister Jean Chretien takes a moment to play some Foosball with MCpl Miller of the Third Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group, during an informal visit to the Junior Ranks Mess at Camp Julien in Kabul, Afghanistan.
Operation ATHENA is Canada's contribution to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) whose task is to support the United Nations-authorized mission in Kabul, Afghanistan, for a period of 12 months starting in August 2003.

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MCpl Steve Robertson (left), Pte Andrew Adams, of November Company of the Third Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group, and Pte Surendra Tamango (right), of the Royal Gurka Rifles make final preparations prior to departing on a patrol of the Canadian Area of Operations in Kabul. 3 RCR and the Royal Gurka Rifles are conducting an exchange program to maximize experience and expertise.

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LCol Don Denne ( right ) Commanding Officer of the Third Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment (3 RCR BG ) Battalion Group, thanks Sgt Tim Bragg ( left ) and Cpl Mark Cooke for their efforts in raising money for the families of two Canadian soldiers killed in a mine strike incident in Afghanistan. Cpl Cooke and Sgt Bragg spearheaded the efforts to run a Horse Racing night for ISAF soldiers, with all proceeds going to the families of the deceased soldiers.

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Sgt Jason Buckel, of Charles Company, Third Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group, (3 RCR BG ) with policemen from Police District 5 in Kabul Afghanistan. Members of Charles Company are teaching patrolling techniques to members of the Afghanistan National Police as part of Operation ATHENA.

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Presentation of the NRF Colours to SACEUR and CINCNORTH


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SrA Jason Snow, an Explosive Ordnance Disposal technician with the 86th Civil Engineering Squadron begins to repel upside down from a fifty foot building at Ramstein Air Base, Germany, during exercise Silver Flag, Oct. 13, 2003. The purpose of exercise Silver Flag is to equip a deployable communications team with the essential knowledge and skills to establish communications at a bare base site. (U.S. Air Force photo by Aiman 1st Class Nichole Adamowicz) (Released)

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Chief Warrant Officer Paul Holton of the Utah Army National Guard, 141st Military Intelligence Battalion, 3000th Brigade, speaks with an Iraqi mother whose child is being treated at a Baghdad children's hospital, Oct. 19, 2003. Holton put a story on his website about Iraqi children needing toys, and donations came from more than 2,000 friends, family, and others across the United States. Toys distributed included soccer balls, dolls, puzzles and other items. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class (NAO/SW) Michael Sandberg) (Released)

[Seoulstriker]

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Chief Warrant Officer Paul Holton of the Utah Army National Guard, 141st Military Intelligence Battalion, 3000th Brigade, speaks with an Iraqi mother whose child is being treated at a Baghdad children's hospital, Oct. 19, 2003. Holton put a story on his website about Iraqi children needing toys, and donations came from more than 2,000 friends, family, and others across the United States. Toys distributed included soccer balls, dolls, puzzles and other items. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class (NAO/SW) Michael Sandberg) (Released)


woot it almost makes me want to cry.

[Operation Ivy]

This proably a dumb question but anyway here it is......How is it determinded who gets scopes and lasers and flashlights and grenade launchers exc. on there guns? Sometimes these guys have tricked out guns,then theres the other guys with nothing extra...who decides that?

[Tom.G]

Good question

[IDFM203]

more pics......
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Soldier of U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division guards a suspect with his hands tied behind his back during a weapon search operation in the village of Hamra, about 20 km (12 miles) northeast from Tikrit, Iraq (news - web sites), Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. U.S. soldiers detained several suspects believed to involved in deadly attacks on American troops and uncovered a weapons cache buried in the farming community during raids early Wednesday near Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s hometown. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)
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Soldiers of U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division guard suspects with hands tied behind their backs during a weapon search operation in the village of Hamra, about 20 km (12 miles) northeast from Tikrit, Iraq (news - web sites), Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. U.S. soldiers detained several suspects believed to be involved in deadly attacks on American troops and uncovered a weapons cache buried in the farming community during raids early Wednesday near Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s hometown. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)
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An Iraqi woman holds a baby as soldiers of U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division search her yard for weapons in the village of Hamra, about 20 km (12 miles) northeast from Tikrit, Iraq (news - web sites), Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. U.S. soldiers detained several suspects believed to involved in deadly attacks on American troops and uncovered a weapons cache buried in the farming community during raids early Wednesday near Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s hometown. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)
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Government workers refusing to be searched by U.S. forces hold a protest outside Iraq (news - web sites)'s ministry of oil in Baghdad October 21, 2003. U.S. soldiers fired above the heads of thousands of Iraqi government workers protesting on Tuesday after hearing that the Americans had detained a woman for refusing to be searched using a sniffer dog. (Ceerwan Aziz/*******)
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U.S.troops walk past a piece of a charred vehicle after a bomb blast outside the Turkish embassy in Baghdad October 14, 2003. Radical Iraqi groups with links to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al Qaeda and a second militant organization are behind some recent bombings in Iraq (news - web sites), the commander of U.S. ground forces, Lt. Gen Ricardo Sanchez said on October 22. Baghdad has been hit by a string of bombings in recent weeks, some of them suicide attacks. The targets have included the U.N. headquarters, the Jordanian and the Turkish embassies, a police station and hotels used by U.S. security personnel and American media. Sanchez did not specify the bombings for which radical groups are responsible. (Chris Helgren/*******)
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Pre-dawn lineup : Iraqi men detained during a pre-dawn raid sit handcuffed under the watch of a US soldier at a small farming community near Tikrit, Iraq (news - web sites). (AFP/Roberto Schmidt)
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An Iraqi man who was detained during a pre-dawn raid lowers his head as he sits in a five-ton truck guarded by US soldiers from 1-22 batallion, 4 ID in a small farming community, some 7 kms north of Tikrit, Iraq (news - web sites).(AFP/Roberto Schmidt)

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Israeli soldier stands guard near a controversial security fence. The UN General Assembly demanded in a resolution that Israel "stop and reverse" construction of a security fence in the West Bank designed to prevent infiltration of Palestinian suicide bombers into Israel(AFP/File/Yoav Lemmer)
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Israeli soldiers open a gate in a security fence, built by Israel to separate Israel from the West Bank, for a Palestinian boy returning from school to his village near the West Bank city of Tulkarm October 21, 2003. A top U.N. official said that Israel had accelerated construction of a barrier across Palestinian land in recent weeks and urged it to halt the project and tear down the 90-mile section already built. (Nir Elias/*******)

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Masked Hamas members march to the house of Khaled el-Hosari, who was killed in an Israeli air strike two days ago, to pay respects in Gaza City, Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003. Israeli helicopters fired two missiles at a pickup truck el-Hosari and fellow Hamas member Eyad Helo were travelling in on Monday, killing them and wounding 12 bystanders, witnesses said. (AP Photo/Kevin Frayer)
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Palestinian militants attend in the Rafah refugee camp the funeral of two Palestinian men killed during Israeli strikes in the Gaza Strip (news - web sites). Israel conducted a series of strikes 20 October 2003 in the Gaza Strip, which claimed the lives of 10 people and wounded some 70 others(AFP/Said Khatib)
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Palestinian gunmen guard the house of Ali abu Taha, who was killed by Israeli soldiers, during his funeral in the border town of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip (news - web sites) October 22, 2003. Palestinians said two gunmen were killed in an armed clash with Israeli soldiers east of the Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza Strip. *******/Goran Tomasevic
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An unidentified woman comforts to a loved one, wounded during a shooting attack in the West Bank city of Hebron, as paramedics carry him to a Jerusalem hospital Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. A Palestinian gunman wounded two Israeli settler security guards at Tel Romeida, a tiny heavily guarded Jewish enclave in this tense West Bank city before being shot dead, Jewish settlers and the army said. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

[One?]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031022/capt.kab10110220945.afghanistan_disarmament_kab101.jpg


GAFE wrote:
HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!


FALLENANGEL wrote:

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

I could be wrong.......but that thing looks like an SA-7 Grail MANPADS or some version of it......Egyptian, Pakistani, and Chinese made versions were supposedly used in the Russian/Afghan conflict and I would have no idea if they differed in design/profile than the Russian made version.

Anyone know for sure?

If it is an SA-7 it's great to see another one "off the street"...hopefully the guy turning it in gets a bonus

it's definitely a SAM launcher, but I'm not really sure of the russian designations.

This is not a sam Launcher I belive its a B9, B10, or B11. (its the russian TOW without a laser designator). Its more like a larger RPG round. How do I know this? Well in lebanon they were like M&ms during the war everyone mounted these things on a toyota pickup truck. And after they were used against the IDF in southern lebanon.

I think the B42 (not sure of the number), has a "fly by wire" round.

[usa320]

Looks like an SA-7 to me, though i could also agree it may be a AT weapon.

In regards to tricked out guns...

if i was there, i would have the most bling blinging gun around... rofl

and my humvee would have a system and rims...

rofl

[He219]

This is an SA-7:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-7-img018.jpg

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448365
^That pic could very well be a B-10 recoilless gun....



This proably a dumb question but anyway here it is......How is it determinded who gets scopes and lasers and flashlights and grenade launchers exc. on there guns? Sometimes these guys have tricked out guns,then theres the other guys with nothing extra...who decides that?

http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2003/10/21/uploaded-37466_large.jpg
:D Specialized untis are allocated specialized equipment for the task at hand. Qualification determines individual configuration.



'Other' interesting images for today....

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After failing to attract large numbers of foreign peacekeepers to Iraq, the Pentagon is drawing up plans to rotate in as many as 30,000 more reservists early next year, despite growing worries in Congress about strains on the force, defense officials said Tuesday. (U.S. Air Force )



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Books and supplies for Iraq

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Tables and benches for Iraqi schools

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Water supply improvements

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Kentucky-fried islamic militant

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A Palestinian policeman inspects a destroyed car in the northern West Bank refugee camp of Balata, adjacent to the city of Nablus, after it exploded late Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. The explosion seriously injured three Palestinians according to Palestinian security officials. They said at least one was a Hamas activist and they added that the three were carrying explosives which had detonated accidentally. (AP Photo/Nasser Istayeh)

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Israel vowed on October 22, 2003 to press on with construction of its vast barrier cutting into Palestinian territory in the West Bank despite a U.N. resolution demanding it be torn down. 'The fence will continue being built and we will go on taking care of the security of Israel's citizens,' Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told Israel Radio, reaffirming the position of Israel's right-leaning government. (******* Graphic)


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Last Hurrah for Le Concorde

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A British Airways Concorde is seen leaving London's Heathrow Airport on Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. The supersonic aircraft is on its last week of service before being moth-balled on Friday Oct. 24, 2003. (AP Photo/Dave Caulkin)

A little humor!
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Nomadic Omani boys, who are camel jockeys, try to control the camels at the start point of a race in Ibri, about 155 miles, 250 kilometers west of Muscat capital of Oman, Wednesday Oct. 22, 2003. (AP Photo/ Hamid Al Qasmi)

[One?]

http://www.lebaneseforces.com/images/lebaneseforces/index-Images/43.jpg Compare the pictures.
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=448365

[Seoulstriker]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031022/capt.kab10110220945.afghanistan_disarmament_kab101.jpg


GAFE wrote:
HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!


FALLENANGEL wrote:

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

I could be wrong.......but that thing looks like an SA-7 Grail MANPADS or some version of it......Egyptian, Pakistani, and Chinese made versions were supposedly used in the Russian/Afghan conflict and I would have no idea if they differed in design/profile than the Russian made version.

Anyone know for sure?

If it is an SA-7 it's great to see another one "off the street"...hopefully the guy turning it in gets a bonus

it's definitely a SAM launcher, but I'm not really sure of the russian designations.

This is not a sam Launcher I belive its a B9, B10, or B11. (its the russian TOW without a laser designator). Its more like a larger RPG round. How do I know this? Well in lebanon they were like M&ms during the war everyone mounted these things on a toyota pickup truck. And after they were used against the IDF in southern lebanon.

I think the B42 (not sure of the number), has a "fly by wire" round.

sorry about that. it looks a lot like the TOW launcher. :P

[Deuterium]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031022/capt.kab10110220945.afghanistan_disarmament_kab101.jpg


GAFE wrote:
HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!


FALLENANGEL wrote:

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

I could be wrong.......but that thing looks like an SA-7 Grail MANPADS or some version of it......Egyptian, Pakistani, and Chinese made versions were supposedly used in the Russian/Afghan conflict and I would have no idea if they differed in design/profile than the Russian made version.

Anyone know for sure?

If it is an SA-7 it's great to see another one "off the street"...hopefully the guy turning it in gets a bonus

it's definitely a SAM launcher, but I'm not really sure of the russian designations.

This is not a sam Launcher I belive its a B9, B10, or B11. (its the russian TOW without a laser designator). Its more like a larger RPG round. How do I know this? Well in lebanon they were like M&ms during the war everyone mounted these things on a toyota pickup truck. And after they were used against the IDF in southern lebanon.

I think the B42 (not sure of the number), has a "fly by wire" round.

I'm thinking SPG-9. Looks to be turned so you can't see the tell-tale rear-end. B-11 is over 100mm but maybe a b-10. My money is on the SPG-9 only because there are so many of them over there. LAughable to think its a missle launcher, go to bed cherries....




http://www.taos-inc.com/foreignmat/atwpns_files/spg-9.jpg

http://www.hemusbg.org/Web%20Catalogue/pictures/1_3_2_2.jpg

http://www.army.lt/guns/biglt/spg-9.jpg

http://www.amw.com.pl/katalog_zos/pdfy/uzbrojenie_13.pdf

http://teamhouse.tni.net/scrapbook/Lollini/spg9livefire.html

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Im wondering why the afghani militia men are wearing marpat uniforms?
You rarely ever see any pic's of it in use (temperate version and the desert version) so how did these guys get ahold of it?

[usa320]

Perhaps it could be a western MANPAD???

Redeye?

;)

definately not a Grail, i dont see the IR device on it.

[Deuterium]

No chance in hell that this is a MANPAD.

[Seoulstriker]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031022/capt.kab10110220945.afghanistan_disarmament_kab101.jpg


GAFE wrote:
HOLY SHHHHH one of them afgan guys is turning in a dam misile launcher!!!!!!


FALLENANGEL wrote:

I think it's probably a recoiless rifle- but you're sorta close.

I could be wrong.......but that thing looks like an SA-7 Grail MANPADS or some version of it......Egyptian, Pakistani, and Chinese made versions were supposedly used in the Russian/Afghan conflict and I would have no idea if they differed in design/profile than the Russian made version.

Anyone know for sure?

If it is an SA-7 it's great to see another one "off the street"...hopefully the guy turning it in gets a bonus

it's definitely a SAM launcher, but I'm not really sure of the russian designations.

This is not a sam Launcher I belive its a B9, B10, or B11. (its the russian TOW without a laser designator). Its more like a larger RPG round. How do I know this? Well in lebanon they were like M&ms during the war everyone mounted these things on a toyota pickup truck. And after they were used against the IDF in southern lebanon.

I think the B42 (not sure of the number), has a "fly by wire" round.

I'm thinking SPG-9. Looks to be turned so you can't see the tell-tale rear-end. B-11 is over 100mm but maybe a b-10. My money is on the SPG-9 only because there are so many of them over there. LAughable to think its a missle launcher, go to bed cherries....




http://www.taos-inc.com/foreignmat/atwpns_files/spg-9.jpg

http://www.hemusbg.org/Web%20Catalogue/pictures/1_3_2_2.jpg

http://www.army.lt/guns/biglt/spg-9.jpg

http://www.amw.com.pl/katalog_zos/pdfy/uzbrojenie_13.pdf

http://teamhouse.tni.net/scrapbook/Lollini/spg9livefire.html


it looks a lot like the gun mounted on the technical in BHD.

[usa320]

yes. it does. and that ^ i believe is it.

[Red]

If HAMAS really believe in their god and his so called divine protection,then why dont they take of their masks?

[One?]

If HAMAS really believe in their god and his so called divine protection,then why dont they take of their masks?

mmm why don't special forces show their faces? :roll:

[EvanL]

Your tryingto compare Spec-Ops with Terrorists? Which one kills people needlessly without any remorse? :bash: :bash:

[Ratamacue]

One, you COMPLETELY missed the point.

[Rush_die]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031021/i/r3231841177.jpg

i like this guy...no head gear and vest...easy to move...

[He219]

If HAMAS really believe in their god and his so called divine protection,then why dont they take of their masks?

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=449041

Mossad would find out their identities quite quickly through it's elaborate system of informants. Next would be the IDF launching a couple of hellfire missiles at their homes or cars. No divine protection for them. Whoever made that so called claim?

Deuterium; SPG-9. Nice work!

:D

[REMOV]

Deuterium; SPG-9. Nice work!Or maybe Chinese 82mm Type 65 recoilless rifle ;)