Today's Pic's. Oct.25

[He219]

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U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division soldiers look at burning Black Hawk helicopter, background, in Tikrit, 193 km (120 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003.

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A U.S. Apache gunship flies over a burning Black Hawk helicopter, right, in Tikrit, 193 km (120 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. The U.S. Army helicopter was shot down Saturday by ground fire near Tikrit, a center of Iraq's anti-U.S. insurgency, witnesses said. One person was reported injured. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)

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A U.S. military Black Hawk helicopter burns after crashing as another one flies away carrying injured in Tikrit, 175 km (110 miles) north of Baghdad, October 25, 2003.


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A U.S. Black Hawk helicopter flies away from a crash site carrying injured soldiers near the northern Iraqi town of Tikrit, October 25, 2003.

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Iraqi policemen wave their guns and chant at the funeral of police chief Hamid Hadi Hassan al-Abe in Amarah, 400 kilometers south of Baghdad Saturday Oct. 25, 2003. Hassan, who was to buried in Najaf Saturday, was shot as he left Friday prayers at the Al-Hussein mosque. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

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Iraqi policemen and relatives grieve over the coffin of police chief Hamid Hadi Hassan al-Abe, on the back of a pickup during a funeral procession in Amarah, 400 kilometers south of Baghdad Saturday Oct. 25, 2003.

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Iraqi boys wave with school books as U.S. Army soldiers secure the area during an opening ceremony of Baghdad's Al Shaima school, in the eastern part of the capital, Saturday, Oct 25, 2003. Coalition authorities on Saturday announced plans to lift the curfew and reopen a major bridge in Baghdad to ease conditions for Iraqis ahead of Ramadan, despite continued violence. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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A U.S. Army soldier tries to control Iraqi boys during an opening ceremony of Baghdad's Al Shaima school, in the eastern part of the capital, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. Coalition authorities on Saturday announced plans to lift the curfew and reopen a major bridge in Baghdad to ease conditions for Iraqis ahead of Ramadan, despite continued violence. (AP Photo/Anja

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U.S. Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, center, speaks to Lt.Col. Steven Russell, left, commander of U.S. Army 4th Infantry Division 1-22 Infantry regiment, as they look at Iraqi Civil Defence Corp (ICDC) trainee pointing at the military base in Tikrit, 193 km (120 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 26, 2003. Wolfowitz is on his three-day visit to Iraq. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev, pool)

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CAPTION CORRECTION - CORRECTS DATE TO TODAY A U.S. Army explosives expert holds part of a bomb mechanism found while investigating an attack in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, October 25, 2003. A roadside bomb exploded as a U.S. patrol was passing in Baghdad at dawn on Saturday, wounding three soldiers, a U.S. officer said. Captain Ty Wilson of the 1st Armored Division, told ******* at the scene that a makeshift bomb, possibly a mortar round detonated by remote control, had exploded at about 7 a.m. on an exit ramp off a highway in the southwest of the capital. *******/Jamal Saidi

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British Coalition Forces spokesman Captain Hisham Halawi, right, of the Parachute Regiment, shows the new Iraqi currency to a Kuwaiti journalist, during a press briefing in Kuwait City, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003.(AP Photo/Gustavo Ferrari)

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US Gen. John Abizaid, front, and US Ambassador to Bahrain Ronald Nueman. right, during a press conference at Diplomat Hotel in Manama, Bahrain Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. (AP Photo/Ali Fraidoon)

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Pakistani soldiers man an anti-tank gun in Ilyas fort at the border town of Chaman near the Afghan border, October 25, 2003. Pakistan has increased security along its border with Afghanistan (news - web sites) as part of its counter-terror measures. New posts have been set up to stop infiltration of Taliban and al Qaeda militants. *******/Mian Khursheed

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Pakistani border security force displays confiscated weapons and ammunition at the border town of Chaman, October 25, 2003.


Afghan women wearing traditional (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/031024/ids_photos_wl/r567845561.jpg) burqas come from the morning market in Kabul, Afghanistan (news - web sites) on Thursday Oct. 23, 2003.

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A German soldier stands guard as his colleagues unload their C-160 cargo plane at the airport outside the northern Afghan town of Kunduz, October 25, 2003. Twenty-seven German soldiers arrived in Kunduz on Saturday to launch an eagerly awaited deployment of NATO (news - web sites)-led peacekeepers outside the Afghan capital. *******/Simon Denyer


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German Bundeswehr tanks in Kabul. The German parliament Bundestag in Berlin voted to widen the mandate of Bundeswehr troops in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and allow the deployment of international peacekeepers outside the capital Kabul for the first time.(DPP/AFP/Michael Kappeler)

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hi-res Operation Iraqi Freedom--Col. Steven Johnson, Commander of the 380th Expeditionary Mission Support Group passes out school supplies to children at a school in Kirkuk, Iraq on 22 October 2003. The 380th Air Expeditionary Wing purchased the supplies in an effort to assist the school district here. Operation Iraqi Freedom is the multinational coalition effort to liberate the Iraqi people, eliminate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and end the regime of Saddam Hussein. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sergeant James A. Williams)

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BAGRAM, Afghanistan – An excess of medical supplies and medications supplemented a shortage faced by Afghan hospitals and clinics as American troops delivered nearly $100,000 worth of medical supplies to the surrounding areas.(photo by Spc. Kelly Hunt, 4th Public Affairs Detachment)

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031022-N-2779T-002 Aboard USS Stump (DD 978) Oct. 22, 2003 -- A NATO Sparrow surface-to-air missile is launched from the deck of USS Stump (DD 978) as a multinational force formation sails in the background during an anti-air defense evolution conducted as part of UNITAS 45-04 Atlantic Phase. UNITAS provides the participant navies the opportunity to train together and develop interoperability in a highly technical environment. Hosted by Argentina, this year's Atlantic Phase also has the participation of naval forces from Brazil, Peru, Spain, Uruguay and the United States. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Robert Taylor (RELEASED)

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031024-O-0000V-001 Washington, D.C. (Oct. 24, 2003) -- Members of SEAL Wives Against Terrorism, or ‘SWAT’, gather for a photo before leaving the Columbia Island Marina docks. The women will motor 300 nautical miles, from Washington, D.C., to New York City, to raise scholarship funds for the children and families of the Navy SEALs community, including those who have given the ultimate sacrifice during the war on terrorism. DOD Photo by K.L. Vantran. (RELEASED)


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031017-N-6213R-030 San Diego, Calif. (Oct. 17, 2003) -- Ground crews stand by as the United States Navy's precision flight demonstration team "Blue Angels" perform during the Miramar Air Show at Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Miramar, Calif. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Mark Rebilas. (RELEASED)


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031017-N-6213R-042 San Diego, Calif. (Oct. 17, 2003) -- The United States Navy's precision flight demonstration team "Blue Angels" performs during the Miramar Air Show at Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Miramar, Calif. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Mark Rebilas. (RELEASED)

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[ArmoredDov_D9]

Pictures from an IDF Combat Engineering drill in the Golan Heights:

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NBC sapper simulates operation under gas attack.

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IDF armoured D9 bulldozer build sand barriers while the gunner surveying the area. Note the machine-gun installed on the top.

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IDF armoured D9 bulldozer digging a moat.

[Kriz]

Those dozers look like freaking metal dinosaurs :D

[Vance]

Nice pictures, He219. woot

[He219]

Thanks Vance! :D



D9: What's that below, a chemical probe?

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[Uncle Chô]

No, this is the hose for the smoke generator that simulate a chemical attack.

[ArmoredDov_D9]

No, this is the hose for the smoke generator that simulate a chemical attack.

Yep. Originally it was intended for spreading bug-repleing spray.

[hendrix33]

No, this is the hose for the smoke generator that simulate a chemical attack.

Yeah, but it spreads CS instead of smoke...

[HumanShield]

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A U.S. Apache gunship flies over a burning Black Hawk helicopter, right, in Tikrit, 193 km (120 miles) north of Baghdad, Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. The U.S. Army helicopter was shot down Saturday by ground fire near Tikrit, a center of Iraq's anti-U.S. insurgency, witnesses said. One person was reported injured. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)

Any one know how it went down?

[Aussie2093]

Small arms fire apparently.

[He219]

More pic's woot


To answer the other day's question, was it a recoilless rifle?
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A soldier of the Pakistani paramilitary border force stands guard in front of confiscated arms on the Pakistan-Afghan border near Chaman, Pakistan on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. (AP Photo/Musa Farman)

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Soldiers of the Pakistani paramilitary border forces on vigil at newly built check post along Pakistan-Afghanistan border near Chaman on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. The internationally backed Afghan government of President Hamid Karzai has long complained that its enemies were finding safe haven in Pakistan's unruly and sparsely inhabited border regions. To counter the accusations, the Pakistan military arranged a series of briefings and a tour for reporters of the normally off-limits area Friday and Saturday to support its contention that it is using all available resources to stop rebels from using its soil against Afghan President Hamid Karzai's fledging government. (AP Photo/Musa Farman)

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This is a view of the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. (AP Photo/Musa Farman)

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Soldiers of the Pakistani paramilitary border forces on vigil at newly built check post along Pakistan-Afghanistan border near Chaman on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. The internationally backed Afghan government of President Hamid Karzai has long complained that its enemies were finding safe haven in Pakistan's unruly and sparsely inhabited border regions. To counter the accusations, the Pakistan military arranged a series of briefings and a tour for reporters of the normally off-limits area Friday and Saturday to support its contention that it is using all available resources to stop rebels from using its soil against Afghan President Hamid Karzai's fledging government.(AP Photo/Musa Farman)

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A Pakistani soldier of the paramilitary border force watches the Chaman border post near Quetta, Pakistan along the Afghan border on Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. In Chaman, the main crossing point with southern Afghanistan, a towering gate stands in the middle of a desolate plane and marks the boundary between the two countries. Up to 6,000 people a day cross the so-called Friendship Gate, according to officals. (AP Photo/Musa Farman)

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A soldier guards a polling station in Tocaima, 50 miles south of Bogota, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. Colombians vote a referendum on President Alvaro Uribe's proposals to cut government spending, reduce the size of the Congress and fight political corruption. (AP Photo/Ariana Cubillos)

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Colombia's President Alvaro Uribe speaks before voting a referendum on his proposals to cut government spending, reduce the size of the Congress and fight political corruption in Bogota, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. At right are his wife Lina Moreno and son Jeronimo Uribe. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)

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The music band of the U.S. Army 1st armored division plays on Baghdad's 14th July bridge, shortly after a ribbon cutting ceremony, Saturday, 25 Oct, 2003. Coalition authorities on Saturday announced plans to lift the curfew and reopen a major bridge in Baghdad to ease conditions for Iraqis ahead of Ramadan, despite continued violence. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

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Chinese President Hu Jintao (2nd L) arrives at Government House, Wellington, for a traditional Maori Ceremony of Welcome, October 25, 2003, led by Petty Officer Robert Hewitt (R). Hu is in New Zealand for a three-day official visit with his wife Madame Liu Yongqing (L). *******/Anthony Phelps

Nice Taiaha (http://www.tu.co.nz/taiaha.htm).

[Uncle Chô]

To answer the other day's question, was it a recoilless rifle?
Yes it was. As far as I know, the Afghans did not had Russian SAMs simply because they had the Stingers. The recoiless rifle is an inexpensive yet rustic weapon that could be carry on mules through the mountains. A modern missile is to complicated to operate by poorly trained people. In countries like Afghanistan, the "Keep It ****ing Simple" motto is the rule !

[He219]

The problem I have is with the weapon ID, Uncle Chô.


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SPG-9

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B-10

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Type 65



Note the lack of a definative exhaust 'cone', the centered 'pin' thing and the 'rings' around the chamber:
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I need some convincing picture evidence, Please! :P

A picture of a Chinese Type 65 'chamber end' would be nice.

Thanks.

:P

[UoUo]

Hey ! that a galil ? http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=450358

It look alike...any 1 know ?

[He219]

Yeah, UoUo.

Colombia makes Galils under license and they also procure Israeli models.


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Two police officers stand guard near a truck burned by rebels of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, FARC, in Saragoza, on the highway leading from Cali to Buenaventura, the country's main seaport on the Pacific coast, Saturday, Oct.25,2003. Rebels burned nine trucks and killed at least 10 people in multiple attacks Saturday as Colombians voted on political reforms championed by President Alvaro Uribe to fight corruption and improve security.(AP Photo/ Oswaldo Paez)

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Israeli peace demonstrators listen to a speaker, during a demonstration held in front of the residence of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in Jerusalem, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003. The crowd of about 4,000 gathered, listening to speakers who called for an end to the policies of the current Israeli Government, with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

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Chanting Israeli peace demonstrators participate in a demonstration held in front of the residence of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in Jerusalem, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003.

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Israeli soldiers react after three of their comrades were killed by a Palestinian gunman in a raid on a Jewish settlement in Netzarim. The soldiers were killed in their sleep in a caravan, according to military radio

The Israeli army was temporarily evacuating an estimated 2,000 Palestinians early on Sunday as it prepared to dynamite three partly built 13-storey Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) buildings, Israeli security sources said.

The sources said the three buildings overlooked the Jewish settlement of Netzarim and were used by militant groups to observe troop movements before launching an attack on the settlement on Friday in which three soldiers were killed, two of them women. The temporary evacuation order was issued to prevent civilian casualties when the buildings were blown up, the sources said.

The explosion (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20031025/wl_nm/mideast_army_gaza_dc&e=1) was expected to be so loud that Israelis living near the Gaza Strip (news - web sites) were likely to hear it. (AFP/Danny Salomon)

[thatguy96]

Man, those Columbians are wielding .30 cal Galils, I didn't know versions not in 5.56x45mm were still in use anywhere. Interesting.

[Uncle Chô]

The problem I have is with the weapon ID, Uncle Chô.

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I need some convincing picture evidence, Please! :P

A picture of a Chinese Type 65 'chamber end' would be nice.

Thanks.

:P
I am sorry "Mr Uhu" but I don't have a scanner at hand. The exact recoilless gun pictured above is 100% the same from a 1985 magazine covering the war in Afghanistan. They describe it as " a 75 mm Chinese recoilless gun called locally tup-é-bî paslagad ". They also mention the moudjahidins used Russians 73 & 82 mm similar guns but there was a shortage of ammo for these weapons. The Chinese guns came more easily from Pakistan.

If they are right about the caliber, this is a Chinese Type 56

As in Kosovo, they would return the oldest weapons and hide much more modern ones...

That's all I can do for you ;)

[REMOV]

The exact recoilless gun pictured above is 100% the same from a 1985 magazine covering the war in Afghanistan. They describe it as " a 75 mm Chinese recoilless gun called locally tup-é-bî paslagad ". (...) If they are right about the caliber, this is a Chinese Type 56Well, Chinese type 65 has caliber 82mm. But the previous Chinese recoilless gun was a 75mm type 56 (and the next one so-called improved type 56).