View Full Version : Syria threatens to attack Israeli communities in the Golan
Syria: May Hit Golan if Israel Attacks Again
Sat October 25, 2003 05:42 PM ET
By Peter Graff
LONDON (*******) - Syria will strike back if Israel attacks again, and could hit Israeli settlements in the Golan Heights, Foreign Minister Farouq al-Shara said in a British Sunday newspaper interview.
Syria did not retaliate after Israel raided what it called a "terrorist camp" near Damascus earlier this month, its first strike on Syria in three decades.
"After we were attacked, we acted in a responsible way and went to the United Nations, and a majority of our people supported that," Shara told the Sunday Telegraph.
"But if we are attacked again the people will not stand for it, and we will have to carry out the will of the people," he said.
"We have many cards that have not been played. Don't forget there are many Israeli settlements in the Golan. I am not exaggerating but I am describing things as they might happen."
Israel seized the Golan Heights from Syria in 1967 and annexed the territory in 1981. The two countries are officially still at war.
Israel struck Syrian territory on October 5 after a suicide bomber killed 19 people in a beach restaurant in the northern Israeli city of Haifa.
Israel said its target was a base for Palestinian militants.
Syria has come under increasing pressure from Washington to crack down on Palestinian militants.
Washington has long included Damascus on its list of states that sponsor terrorism, and the House of Representatives voted this month to impose diplomatic and economic sanctions on Syria for as long as the White House considers it a terror supporter.
The Senate must pass the bill before President Bush can sign it into law.
Shara told the Sunday Telegraph the government of President Bashar al-Assad had shut down representative offices of Palestinian militant groups Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command.
Shara also said Syria was unable to stop militants from crossing into Iraq to attack U.S. troops there.
"They are very determined and many of them dream of seeing an American tank," he said.
jdbjdb
10-26-2003, 04:57 AM
rofl yeah right, Assad a comedian? The arabs couldn't beat their way out of a nut sack.
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
10-26-2003, 05:14 AM
great...its easier to name the countrys not at war in the middle east then at war
Mr Gently Benevolent
10-26-2003, 06:53 AM
Does anyone in Israel really believe that Syria will attack Israel, is this not just a case of Syria strutting and posturing, I have no doubt the spin masters in Israel will use a speech like this to keep the public on an even higher state of alert. With Israel now in possesion of a vast array of WMD's and the means to deliver them I just cannot believe Syria will take any overt risks, they could keep giving safe haven to terrorists but an attack no it will not happen. A Popeye with a low yield nuke would provide an answer if they did.
Just for the record the fact that Israel has WMD's is now taken for granted even the CIA reckons you guy's have got them, so do not take my statement as some sort of blood-libel.
Mr Gently Benevolent
10-26-2003, 07:03 AM
This one is for all you Israeli residents out there.
If Syria stopped funding and supporting terrorists and accepted the State Of Israels existance, would the average Israeli agree to giving back the occupied Golan Heights.
I whould't agree..the simple resen that we got **** for such peace....Golan - about few % then israel...all the west bank ... gaza strip...for the pal' what whould we have ?
Syria should be silent..and be happy that israel isn't attack them.
This one is for all you Israeli residents out there.
If Syria stopped funding and supporting terrorists and accepted the State Of Israels existance, would the average Israeli agree to giving back the occupied Golan Heights.
I belive the thought that Syria will stop the funding and the support of terrorists is a very imaginary thought and won't happen any time soon or even at all.
However if it did happen, I myself would only agree to a peace agreement which would leave the Golan Heights in Israeli hands.
You have to remember that the Golan Heights has been annexed to the state of Israel over 20 years ago and has been settled by Israelis for the past 36 years.
Before it was taken from Syria, the Golan Heights was used as high ground from which the Syrians shelled Israeli kibbutzim and other Israeli settlements in the Galilee.
rofl yeah right, Assad a comedian? The arabs couldn't beat their way out of a nut sack.
Lets see, Israel made its citizens live in a prison by sarrounding its settlements with a fence, wich only means that what the palestinians are doing are making the israelis live in fear. And in the north they still fear hezbollah. So yes they can beat their way out a nut sack :)
IDFM203
10-26-2003, 02:27 PM
rofl yeah right, Assad a comedian? The arabs couldn't beat their way out of a nut sack.
Lets see, Israel made its citizens live in a prison by sarrounding its settlements with a fence, wich only means that what the palestinians are doing are making the israelis live in fear. And in the north they still fear hezbollah. So yes they can beat their way out a nut sack :)
Kief chalak “one”
I must say that you have put here an interesting observation for which I am not totally in disagreement.
All I will say is that if Israel fought with the same low morality as the Syrians and hetballh and the Palestinians, there wouldn’t be any Israeli’s living in fences and in fear.
It does so for it doesn’t fight inhumanly and as we see it pays the price for this moral high ground.
Another telling observation from this is that there is no doubt that Israel is stronger militarily but yet I guarantee you no average Syrian or Lebanese or even Palestinian is living in any real fear for they know that Israel doesn’t target them as they (the arabs) do to the average Israelis
Shalom “one” :D
AirZone
10-26-2003, 03:03 PM
rofl yeah right, Assad a comedian? The arabs couldn't beat their way out of a nut sack.
Lets see, Israel made its citizens live in a prison by sarrounding its settlements with a fence, wich only means that what the palestinians are doing are making the israelis live in fear. And in the north they still fear hezbollah. So yes they can beat their way out a nut sack :)
Kief chalak “one”
I must say that you have put here an interesting observation for which I am not totally in disagreement.
All I will say is that if Israel fought with the same low morality as the Syrians and hetballh and the Palestinians, there wouldn’t be any Israeli’s living in fences and in fear.
It does so for it doesn’t fight inhumanly and as we see it pays the price for this moral high ground.
Another telling observation from this is that there is no doubt that Israel is stronger militarily but yet I guarantee you no average Syrian or Lebanese or even Palestinian is living in any real fear for they know that Israel doesn’t target them as they (the arabs) do to the average Israelis
Shalom “one” :D
idf 1 one 0
rofl
martinexsquaddie
10-26-2003, 04:22 PM
Syria one party Tyranny hmm yeah I'd trust them enough to hand back
high ground I really would :lol:. If you belive that I've got a bridge for sale
(hang on we did that to the yanks already rofl )
ArmoredDov_D9
10-26-2003, 04:29 PM
Syria: May Hit Golan if Israel Attacks Again
Sat October 25, 2003 05:42 PM ET
By Peter Graff
LONDON (*******) - Syria will strike back if Israel attacks again, and could hit Israeli settlements in the Golan Heights, Foreign Minister Farouq al-Shara said in a British Sunday newspaper interview.
Syria did not retaliate after Israel raided what it called a "terrorist camp" near Damascus earlier this month, its first strike on Syria in three decades.
"After we were attacked, we acted in a responsible way and went to the United Nations, and a majority of our people supported that," Shara told the Sunday Telegraph.
"But if we are attacked again the people will not stand for it, and we will have to carry out the will of the people," he said.
"We have many cards that have not been played. Don't forget there are many Israeli settlements in the Golan. I am not exaggerating but I am describing things as they might happen."
Israel seized the Golan Heights from Syria in 1967 and annexed the territory in 1981. The two countries are officially still at war.
Israel struck Syrian territory on October 5 after a suicide bomber killed 19 people in a beach restaurant in the northern Israeli city of Haifa.
Israel said its target was a base for Palestinian militants.
Syria has come under increasing pressure from Washington to crack down on Palestinian militants.
Washington has long included Damascus on its list of states that sponsor terrorism, and the House of Representatives voted this month to impose diplomatic and economic sanctions on Syria for as long as the White House considers it a terror supporter.
The Senate must pass the bill before President Bush can sign it into law.
Shara told the Sunday Telegraph the government of President Bashar al-Assad had shut down representative offices of Palestinian militant groups Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command.
Shara also said Syria was unable to stop militants from crossing into Iraq to attack U.S. troops there.
"They are very determined and many of them dream of seeing an American tank," he said.
rofl rofl rofl rofl
You made my day. Assad knows very well that if Israel will really get pissed of upon him - he's doomed.
usa320
10-26-2003, 04:50 PM
No different than Mullah Omar claiming he would defeat the US before OEF.
Syria doesnt stand a **** of a chance against the IDF.
Israel cannot and will never win a gurilla/urban warfare. In lebanon they used the christian militia and didn't last more than 88 days. They had to withdraw back to the south because they were taking mass casulties.
You act tough here but when it comes to war you will never go back to lebanon, especialy if you served there. I'm not saying that but your soldeirs and officers say that.
Israel occupied Gaza and the west bank, they built a fence, they increased security and they still have suicide bombers blowing up buses. They even enter military bases in settlements and attack soldiers. That should be the most secure place. And in lebanon Israel says that hezbollah has rockets in range of Haifa and Yafa. Before when Israel attacked lebanon they would retaliate by hitting northern settlements now they can hit deep into israel.
If Israel attacks syria it wont be syria alone fighting, people have been waiting to fight Israel for a while now. So just like what happened in Afghanistan with the Russians it will be the same case.
And yes Israel does fight inhumanly I already discussed that in a different thread.
Israel cannot and will never win a gurilla/urban warfare. In lebanon they used the christian militia and didn't last more than 88 days. They had to withdraw back to the south because they were taking mass casulties.
You act tough here but when it comes to war you will never go back to lebanon, especialy if you served there. I'm not saying that but your soldeirs and officers say that.
Israel occupied Gaza and the west bank, they built a fence, they increased security and they still have suicide bombers blowing up buses. They even enter military bases in settlements and attack soldiers. That should be the most secure place. And in lebanon Israel says that hezbollah has rockets in range of Haifa and Yafa. Before when Israel attacked lebanon they would retaliate by hitting northern settlements now they can hit deep into israel.
If Israel attacks syria it wont be syria alone fighting, people have been waiting to fight Israel for a while now. So just like what happened in Afghanistan with the Russians it will be the same case.
And yes Israel does fight inhumanly I already discussed that in a different thread.
Israel expeled the PLO out of Lebanon, that was the goal for which it went into Lebanon in the first place, after that the IDF didn't need to stay in north Lebanon anymore.
If Israel will have to go back to Lebanon it will, belive me. This is also something the Lebanese people don't want ( especially after rebuilding their country). hezbollah won't dare to use it's rockets to attack Haifa since they know there won't be anything left of south Lebanon later. We can do what the Americans did in Afghanistan and even more.
StarvingStudent47
10-26-2003, 06:59 PM
(addressing the original post)
The IAF destroys a terrorist training camp. Assad threatens to attack residential areas in retaliation. How typical.
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
10-26-2003, 07:19 PM
"We can do what the Americans did in Afghanistan and even more."
Ummmm sorry not happening. You may not remeber but there is alot of international boots on the ground. If syria some-how did get mixed up in the israel-palestinian quarrel it probably will be left up to those 3 sides to duke it out..since most country's are busy with iraq and afghanistan.
Besides remeber afghanistan? We are now just starting to send peacekeepers outside of Kabul...so next time try to find a better example.
S13 thats where you are wrong. Hezbollah dares to fire rockets deep into Israel if Israel attacks lebanon. They have done it before and they will do it again. What are they going to loose? If they invade they will use everything in their arsenal.
FallenAngel
10-27-2003, 12:33 AM
If they invade they will use everything in their arsenal.
Which means what? I mean, not to put down either Syria or Lebenon's military pride, but as the US has shown, once you get control of the air, the rest pretty much ends up being a pitched battle. If the IAF can best USAF, US Navy, Luftwaffe, etc. units, I believe that the Syrian/ Lebenon air force would be mince-meat. Their regular ground forces would follow soon after.
As for the guerilla/ terrorist aspect....how's that any different from what they're dealing with now?
IAF is useless against gurilla warfare. When you fire rockets the IAF is also useless :)
Lebanon sold its Mirage to Pakistan. So they have no airforce. But I doubt Israel would invade lebanon without igniting another civil war.
IDFM203
10-27-2003, 12:52 AM
They had to withdraw back to the south because they were taking mass casulties. there was no mass casualties. There were 20 soldiers a year dying. Now from an Israeli point of view it was considered mass casualties for we value the lives of our soldier. Much much more hetballh died but yet you seem to not compute that.
No, we discussed this before. Israel’s military did not leave but its leftist government left Lebanon as was explained before.
You act tough well first of all , it is you that’s acting tuff and I was just responding to that. If you take my response as tuff then thanks for getting the message.
here but when it comes to war you will never go back to lebanon, especialy if you served there. I'm not saying that but your soldeirs and officers say that. except for a few exceptions (idiots, yeah we have them too) most say exactly the opposite. Believe me I know this.
Israel occupied Gaza and the west bank, they built a fence, they increased security and they still have suicide bombers blowing up buses. yes but you have to agree that if Israel acted like Syria or hetballh or the Palestinians there would be no suicide bombers coming in.
We don’t so that’s the price we pay.
Listen Israel has only used a fraction of its real strength to deal with the Palestinians . politics is what is really controlling the idf and not its actually power and ability.
Secondly there have been no suicide bombes that have come from gaza and that is due to the fence that has been there for years!!!!!
They even enter military bases in settlements and attack soldiers. very rarely.
For the most part, all the casualties and targets by the Palestinians have been civilians. And the soldiers that were killed again for the most part were killed in suicide bombings at busses or malls but most were not killed in combat situations.
And in lebanon Israel says that hezbollah has rockets in range of Haifa and Yafa. [quote]yes it does, which it did not have before. Again further highlighting the idiocy of the leftist government that stupidly pulled the idf out.
[quote]
Before when Israel attacked lebanon they would retaliate by hitting northern settlements now they can hit deep into israel. no, before Israel was already in Lebanon after it had kicked out the plo. It was sitting there in stationary positions when the hetballh stated its campaigns
Israel never went into Lebanon with a gaol to kick out hetballh for hetballh wasnt around at the time.
So yes they can hit deeper into Israel but if Israel goes back in they will go with the goal to kick out hetcbllh (whcih was never the implemented, for all Israel did was responded to attacks, it never really went on any major initiative to wipe out hetballh) and they will bring the necessary fire power to make sure that hetcbllh is wiped out or is running to its masters in Syria or to Iran.
If Israel attacks syria it wont be syria alone fighting, people have been waiting to fight Israel for a while now. well Israel already attacked a terrorist base in Syria and had even the Israeli jets fly over ASSads palace and yet they didn’t do ****!!!!
What their army good for if they cant do **** after israel sends planes over into their territory.
All they can do and have done (through its training and arming of some of he Palestinian terrorist groups) is mount a gurrila war, which just shows how weak the Syrians are.
So just like what happened in Afghanistan with the Russians it will be the same case. no just like what happened with Israel and Syria in the Lebanese war (where Israel kicked their ass) just like what happened in the yom kipper war where Israel had them running back to Damascus, just like what happened in the 1967 war where Israel destroyed their entire air force in one day, just like what happened etc…..
Yeah you can use examples of failures from other parts of the world with other nations, I will take realistic ones from this part where these nations have fought and have had experience already.
And yes Israel does fight inhumanly I already discussed that in a different thread. we can go round and round here. The bottom line in is in the constant battle for the past twenty years, Israel has targeted mostly murdered and killers or innocent civilians and yet have still killed less then what ASSad did in one day in “hama” when he killed 20,000 people.
Like I said before, if Israel fought with the same inhumane way the palis and the Syrians and hetballh, this conflict would be over with today.!!!!!
Israel does not and for that it does indeed pay a high price for taking the moral high ground.
Shalom.:D
So hizbulla will lunch a few katusa...Bug ****ing deal....israel will crush lebanon and syria.
The arab have wierd meaning to the war "win".
citizen-k
10-27-2003, 04:32 AM
Let it be,
I wonder how one's face will look like from the view of an MRPV seconds before he meets hell-fire rofl
Mr Gently Benevolent
10-27-2003, 10:59 AM
Can anyone tell me how much of the Golan Heights was taken from Syria and how it is used, is it settled and is there a proportion used as military buffer zone. Any info would help.
AirZone
10-27-2003, 11:26 AM
IAF is useless against gurilla warfare. When you fire rockets the IAF is also useless :)
Lebanon sold its Mirage to Pakistan. So they have no airforce. But I doubt Israel would invade lebanon without igniting another civil war. artillery is also useless ? :roll:
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.0 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.