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Andyman
01-24-2005, 06:47 PM
I got to fire my friend sick M203 grenade launcher attached to his new ArmaLite AR15 M15A4 CB 11.5" assault rifle. It was ****in sweet. Fired an amazing distance and was a huge explosion. Nothing we did was illegal, no matter what you think or see, so don't even think it or post it. Thanks.

Anyway...

Pics (roughly 800x600, sorry, not my camera):
http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/andykneelingthumb.jpg
LARGE (http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/andykneelingsmall.jpg)

http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/andystandingthumb.jpg
LARGE (http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/andystandingsmall.jpg)

Videos!
My M203 letting an HE round rip:
http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/m203flame320.jpg
VIDEO - .WMV - 1.91MB (http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/m203clean.wmv)

A walk around of my new AR15 and my M203:
http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/m203walkaround320.jpg
VIDEO - .WMV - 4.34MB (http://www.likestuff.com/guns/videos/m203/m203walkaround.wmv)

Let me know how u love it.

Macs.
01-24-2005, 06:52 PM
Isn't that Illeg... oh... whatever.

Great stuff, do you have a video of the explosion ?

American Patriot
01-24-2005, 06:54 PM
You're supposed to grip the pistol grip with your nonfiring hand :D

RSK
01-24-2005, 06:54 PM
OK explain this to me:

1. You are in Canada
2. Where did you legally buy and M203
3. Where can you legally fire an M203
4. On your PAL (if you have one) what category does an M203 fall under?

He219
01-24-2005, 06:54 PM
A Canuck with a Colt/M203

Whatever happened to Diemaco?
;)

Macs.
01-24-2005, 06:56 PM
OK explain this to me:

1. You are in Canada
2. Where did you legally buy and M203
3. Where can you legally fire an M203
4. On your PAL (if you have one) what category does an M203 fall under?

Nothing we did was illegal, no matter what you think or see, so don't even think it or post it. Thanks.

:lol:

hood
01-24-2005, 07:01 PM
So to sum up, we didn't see him fire a explosive device in a residential area. Move along.

AlexNenadic
01-24-2005, 07:01 PM
OK explain this to me:
4. On your PAL (if you have one) what category does an M203 fall under?

None, believe it or not M203s are not considered to be "firearms" in Canada. Why? Because the muzzle velocity is under 500fps.

Can't get explosive grenades for them though.

NaOH
01-24-2005, 07:04 PM
OK explain this to me:

1. You are in Canada
2. Where did you legally buy and M203
3. Where can you legally fire an M203
4. On your PAL (if you have one) what category does an M203 fall under?

1. Yep, I think he's in Canada.
2. M203's are unregulated here in Canada. While the US no longer allows export there are a few up here.
3. You can legaly fire it any place you want. You just can't use explosive rounds.
4. Nothing on a PAL as they fall under the same catagory as air guns.

hood
01-24-2005, 07:06 PM
So Andyman, what kind of round was the one you were firing? Flashbang type of thing?

NaOH
01-24-2005, 07:10 PM
Having watched the video now I can safely say firing that in a residential area is both stupid and a good way to see first hand what the police call a "high risk take down".

American Patriot
01-24-2005, 07:11 PM
That's awesome. What is the difference between HEDP and HE? HE has a bigger area effect and no penetration?

scm77
01-24-2005, 07:26 PM
:lol: that was cool. What did you shoot it at?

Brozozo
01-24-2005, 07:28 PM
Sorry to ask about the whole legality of it but arn't weapons like the AR15 illegal here in Canada?

I got my FAC and in one of the books I got on my course it specifically says something along the lines of that auto weapons and those convereted to single shot are not allowed...

Andyman
01-24-2005, 07:28 PM
u guys make me laugh. It was no more than a firework that we shot out of the M203. therefore chill the ish out.

:cantbeli:

Yeoman
01-24-2005, 07:32 PM
yeah I was about to say that you're an idiot andyman. not once have I ever seen anything like that come out of a 203 barrel and I've put at least 40 of those things down range, a couple of them being HE.
that's just gay, should send it to the RCMP and go "here's this guys IP address, get him for brandishing an illegal firearm in Canada"
Greg

memphiz
01-24-2005, 07:38 PM
A real man would have shot it at a propane tank.....

STill cool though

[AFSOC]
01-24-2005, 07:39 PM
link dont work

shadower
01-24-2005, 07:40 PM
This things are perfectly legal bur you can't buy ammo for it.People usualy fire empty film canisters.Once on marstar i saw Yugoslav rpg for something like 200 $ Canadian.

American Patriot
01-24-2005, 07:40 PM
it's a firecracker :cantbeli:

Here in the U.S. a grenade launcher has to be 37mm or under..

Bombtrack
01-24-2005, 07:42 PM
How cute..

Andyman
01-24-2005, 07:49 PM
yeah my buddy posted it on canadiangunuts.com and they band hisi account and the cops called his place. Friiggin retarded cause there is nothing illegal about what we did.

memphiz
01-24-2005, 08:06 PM
yeah my buddy posted it on canadiangunuts.com and they band hisi account and the cops called his place. Friiggin retarded cause there is nothing illegal about what we did.
Probable scared the **** out of the neighbours

KalleBalleSvartSk@lle
01-24-2005, 08:31 PM
It doesn't sound "flunky" enough. p-)
What manufacturer is it, it doesn't look like the Colt I had the opportunity to drag around.

hood
01-24-2005, 08:31 PM
Checklist for being 'scared the crap out of' and calling the cops:

1. Seeing guy in ski mask, in next door backyard
2. Seeing guy in ski mask, also wearing full camo
3. Seeing guy in ski mask, holding military looking gun
4. Seeing guy in ski mask, firing something loud, and then hearing some kind of bang/explosion shortly after.
5. Just watched Fox News, where they said to be on the lookout for terrorists wearing ski masks.

Did I mention he had a ski mask?

Bombtrack
01-24-2005, 08:35 PM
yeah my buddy posted it on canadiangunuts.com and they band hisi account and the cops called his place. Friiggin retarded cause there is nothing illegal about what we did.

What's friggin retarded about it is posting it all over the internet, why risk getting the cops involved? It's not even a big deal, most of us have seen m203's being fired in pictures and video if not in real life (REAL M203 rounds too)

ArmedPacifist
01-24-2005, 08:42 PM
You're supposed to grip the pistol grip with your nonfiring hand :D

how would you know?

memphiz
01-24-2005, 08:56 PM
Checklist for being 'scared the crap out of' and calling the cops:

1. Seeing guy in ski mask, in next door backyard
2. Seeing guy in ski mask, also wearing full camo
3. Seeing guy in ski mask, holding military looking gun
4. Seeing guy in ski mask, firing something loud, and then hearing some kind of bang/explosion shortly after.
5. Just watched Fox News, where they said to be on the lookout for terrorists wearing ski masks.

Did I mention he had a ski mask?
Well unless the video is from Alberta...then it would seem normal

soma
01-24-2005, 09:04 PM
You're supposed to grip the pistol grip with your nonfiring hand :D

how would you know?

He's seen pictures DUH!



That's pretty funny with the Canadian Gun Nuts forums though... you asses deserve it. You should have discharged that at a properly secured and safe area, not in your backyard.

gjmoreau
01-24-2005, 09:11 PM
That's awesome. What is the difference between HEDP and HE? HE has a bigger area effect and no penetration?

HE is just a simple High Explosive round, I think it consists of mainly comp. B, whereas HEDP is High Explosive Dual Purpose, it has the HE characteristics but is also capable of penetrating up to 4 inches of steel armor. As far as gripping the pistol grip and such, I was taught two ways: Grip the pistol grip with your dominant hand and grip the magazine and 203 trigger with the weak hand, and the second way I was taught is to grip the 203 trigger and magazine with the dominant hand and grip the 203 barrel with the weak hand. Both ways allow you to put the buttstock in your shoulder and sight in through the sights, but I like the first way since I can engage targets with the main weapon quickly after I fire the 203 off.

Durandal
01-24-2005, 09:18 PM
Idiotic...posting this crap and NOT expecting a call from the cops.

My friend in Chicago just got done with criminal case where a guy was sentenced to five years for possession of a full-auto weapon.

No weapon was found.

No ammo was found.

Just a video.

Rather than act like a kid that does not have the sense to be ALLOWED to own a gun, maybe you should simply post "video of a 37mm DPMS flare/noise launcher".

Idiotic.

Every time I win a successful argument against an anti-gun nut people like you do stupid **** to counter act it.

Otsoa
01-24-2005, 09:20 PM
Okay....
The M203 in 40mm and flare launchers in 37mm are legal in Canada with no restrictions due to muzzle velocity being under 500fps. Ammo that is allowed are signal flares, inert ammo like film canisters filled with flour or chalk and the like. Anything remotely like a HE grenade is illegal.

The AR15 in Canada is a restricted firearm meaning that it can ONLY be fired at a range approved by the province's cheif firearms officer. There are strict guidlines in transporting the restricted firearm from your house to the range. Running around in your backyard regardless of how big it is is technically a big no-no due to the laws and you can get charged.

Also, as pointed out on the other board, modifying fireworks contravenes the explosives act and one can get charged.

There are other things related to this but it really doesn't need to be pointed out by me since it isn't my place to do so.

noggs
01-24-2005, 09:35 PM
Nice pics

hood
01-24-2005, 09:38 PM
So what's this about firing film canisters with the M203? What happens when you put it down the tube? What's actually launching it out of the tube? I always assumed that when you hit the pin on the back of a matching M203 grenade, it detonated a small blast cap which sent it on its way. Does the mechanism inside actually throw the grenade itself without any kind of detonation involved?

American Patriot
01-24-2005, 09:45 PM
He meant that you can load a film canister into a 37mm or 40mm case.

ArmyRanger
01-24-2005, 09:45 PM
my opinon, 37mm Flare launcher, buddy has one on the bottom of his AR-15. no way you used a 40mm HE. and is that your neighbors fence in the background?

Otsoa
01-24-2005, 09:46 PM
I'm not too sure Hood as to the whole process of modifying film cannisters but there have been some people who have done it. There also people who have made chalk rounds to fire out of their 203's. Iirc, some people have made adapters to allow them to fire them out of their 203's.

Edit: To all those who are wondering...once again it is is legal to own BOTH 40mm and 37mm launchers in Canada. The 40mm launchers are a tad expensive so many opt to get the 37mm due to relative greater availability and price than the 40mm. However, HE rounds are illegal and as stated on the other board, the round supposedly fired out of the launcher was a modified firework.

Edit: In many urban areas big and small, it is illegal to discharge firearms, pellet rifles, etc in city limits. However that said, some cities do not have such anti-discharge laws and there is no way to know for sure that this was filmed in either an urban area or a no discharge area. (not that I condone this sort of activity).

EvanL
01-24-2005, 10:00 PM
Andyman.. What you have done is a pretty idiotic thing. You can do as much stupid **** as you want, but never take pictures and never post those pictures (if you are stupid enough to take them) on the internet. We talk about this kind of **** in my police course and you can be in for some hefty time if the OPP gets involved.

Brozozo
01-24-2005, 10:03 PM
Okay....
The M203 in 40mm and flare launchers in 37mm are legal in Canada with no restrictions due to muzzle velocity being under 500fps. Ammo that is allowed are signal flares, inert ammo like film canisters filled with flour or chalk and the like. Anything remotely like a HE grenade is illegal.

The AR15 in Canada is a restricted firearm meaning that it can ONLY be fired at a range approved by the province's cheif firearms officer. There are strict guidlines in transporting the restricted firearm from your house to the range. Running around in your backyard regardless of how big it is is technically a big no-no due to the laws and you can get charged.

Also, as pointed out on the other board, modifying fireworks contravenes the explosives act and one can get charged.

There are other things related to this but it really doesn't need to be pointed out by me since it isn't my place to do so.

Restricted? Hmm, I thought restricted refered to pistols/revolvers, not auto or converted weapons. Thought those were "Prohibited." My FAC allows me to purchase.own "Restricted" firearms and I was under the impressions that meant pistols and revolvers.

Otsoa
01-24-2005, 10:17 PM
Restricted? Hmm, I thought restricted refered to pistols/revolvers, not auto or converted weapons. Thought those were "Prohibited." My FAC allows me to purchase.own "Restricted" firearms and I was under the impressions that meant pistols and revolvers.

Restricted fireams can include pistols and revolvers but it also includes some rifles such as the AR-15 and shotguns. I cannot go into too much detail since I would go mad trying to explain the intracacies of Canadian gun laws(but basically throw logic out of the window). I'll try to dig up the links that gives the descriptions of prohibited and restricted firearms and I'll pm them to you.

RomanS
01-24-2005, 10:20 PM
airsofters
I laughed my ass pretty good.
A FLAME OUT OF 203 lool

next time at least aim higher, it takes several yards for the grenade to activate!!!

Brozozo
01-24-2005, 10:20 PM
Thanks but that won't be necessary! Spare yourself the effort, I still got the books from my course and I know that it has all that specific info in there so I'll just look it up myself. Thanks again!

RoyalAir
01-24-2005, 10:22 PM
mmmmm


It takes 60 feet before the 203 nade arms itslef....

Otsoa
01-24-2005, 10:33 PM
Thanks but that won't be necessary! Spare yourself the effort, I still got the books from my course and I know that it has all that specific info in there so I'll just look it up myself. Thanks again!

No effort really. Have all the links saved in my favourites for just such an occasion. Besides, I didn't see your reply til after I sent the pm and the books from the course don't cover everything(at least mine didn't) ;)

lunatic2T2
01-24-2005, 10:48 PM
edit

shadower
01-24-2005, 11:06 PM
CanadianGunNutz is government run site full of G men and yet everibody goes there.

shadower
01-24-2005, 11:09 PM
Restricted Firearms
This fact sheet is of interest to you if you possess a restricted firearm.



Definition of a Restricted Firearm
According to the Criminal Code, a restricted firearm is:

A handgun that is not a prohibited firearm;
A semi-automatic, centre-fire firearm with a barrel length less than 470 mm that is not a prohibited firearm;
A firearm that can fire after being reduced, by folding, telescoping or otherwise, to an overall length of less than 660 mm;
Any firearm prescribed under the Criminal Code regulations to be restricted (including some long guns).


Firearms Prescribed as Restricted
Here is a list of restricted firearms as specified in the Criminal Code regulations that came into effect on December 1, 1998. This list includes all firearms that have been restricted by a former Order in Council.

The firearms of the designs commonly known as the High Standard Model 10, Series A shotgun and the High Standard Model 10, Series B shotgun, and any variants or modified versions of them.
The firearm of the design commonly known as the M-16 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the:
(a) Colt AR-15;
(b) Colt AR-15 SPI;
(c) Colt AR-15 Sporter;
(d) Colt AR-15 Collapsible Stock Model;
(e) Colt AR-15 A2;
(f) Colt AR-15 A2 Carbine;
(g) Colt AR-15 A2 Government Model Rifle;
(h) Colt AR-15 A2 Government Model Target Rifle;
(i) Colt AR-15 A2 Government Model Carbine;
(j) Colt AR-15 A2 Sporter II;
(k) Colt AR-15 A2 H-BAR;
(l) Colt AR-15 A2 Delta H-BAR;
(m) Colt AR-15 A2 Delta H-BAR Match;
(n) Colt AR-15 9mm Carbine;
(o) Armalite AR-15;
(p) AAI M15;
(q) AP74;
(r) EAC J-15;
(s) PWA Commando;
(t) SGW XM15A;
(u) SGW CAR-AR;
(v) SWD AR-15;
(w) Any 22 calibre rimfire variant, including the:

Mitchell M-16A-1/22,
Mitchell M-16/22,
Mitchell CAR-15/22,
AP74 Auto Rifle.
Summary of Key Requirements
You need a valid firearms licence in order to possess or acquire a firearm and to obtain ammunition.
You need a registration certificate issued under the Firearms Act for all firearms in your possession.
You need an Authorization to Transport in order to transport a restricted firearm from one location to another.
You must store, display and transport your firearms according to the regulations applying to restricted firearms.


Firearms Licence
You must be at least 18 to get a licence authorizing you to have restricted firearms. Minors can use restricted firearms only if they are under the direct and immediate supervision of a licensed adult.

If you do not yet have a licence, the only one now available to new applicants is the Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL).

To apply for a PAL, fill out form CAFC 1039, an "Application for a Licence under the Firearms Act (for individuals 18 or older). (See "More information" at the end of this fact sheet.)

To be eligible for a PAL that allows you to possess restricted firearms, you must have passed the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course as well as the Canadian Firearms Safety Course or its equivalent.

If you passed the Canadian Firearms Safety Course before February 1, 1999, when it covered restricted firearms, you do not have to pass either course again.
You can challenge the tests for both courses without taking the course.
A PAL for restricted firearms, costs $80 and is valid for five years.



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In most cases, there are only four purposes for which you can be licensed to acquire and/or possess a restricted firearm:

For use in target practice or target shooting competitions;
To form part of a gun collection;
For use in connection with your lawful profession or occupation.
Or in rare cases,

4. To protect life.

Exception: If you have a firearm that is registered to you as a relic under the former law, you may continue to possess it for that purpose.

However, you cannot pass that designation on to the next owner. The next owner can acquire it only for one of the purposes referred to above.

As set out in the Firearms Act, a relic firearm is one that is of value as a curiosity or rarity, or that is valued as a memento, remembrance or souvenir.

Criteria for Each Purpose
Depending on which purpose you select, there are some specific criteria you have to meet, as follows.

Target Shooting Practice and Competition
To be authorized to have restricted firearms for target shooting purposes, you must provide proof that you practice or compete at an approved shooting club or range.

For more information about the approval of shooting clubs and ranges, contact your CFO by calling 1 800 731-4000. An operator will connect your call.

Collectors of Restricted Firearms
To be authorized to have restricted firearms as part of a collection, you must:

Know the historical, technical or scientific features of such firearms in your collection;
Consent to occasional inspections of the place where your collection is stored. (For more information about inspections, please refer to our Inspection Powers fact sheet; and,
Comply with regulations dealing with safe storage, record-keeping and other matters related to restricted firearms.
Employment Purposes and Protection of Life
Only in limited circumstances may an individual possess and/or acquire a restricted firearm for employment purposes or for protection of a life.



Registration
Previously Registered Firearms
Restricted firearms registered in the former system had to be re-registered under the Firearms Act by January 1, 2003 to update the information. If you have not yet re-registered your restricted firearms, you must do so as quickly as possible or dispose of them lawfully. You can apply to re-register them online through our Web site at www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca or by submitting a paper application (form CAFC 998). There is no fee. You need a valid firearms licence to be able to re-register a firearm.

Newly Acquired Firearms
If you acquire a firearm from a Canadian source, it must be registered to you before you take possession of it. This will occur as part of the transfer process that must take place any time a firearm of any class changes ownership.

In most cases, the entire process can be completed by calling 1 800 731-4000 and selecting the "transfer" option from the menu of services. Alternatively, fill out form CAFC 681, Application to Register Restricted and Prohibited Firearms Acquired by Transfer.

If you acquire a firearm in another country and import it to Canada, fill out form CAFC 998, an Application to Register Newly Acquired Restricted Firearms.

Verification
Before you submit your registration application, the information on your firearms must be verified by an approved verifier unless:

The firearm already has verified status. (A firearm only has to be verified once, unless it is significantly modified); or
The Registrar is satisfied that the information on a previous registration certificate is complete and accurate.


Authorization to Transport
You need an Authorization to Transport (ATT) from a provincial or territorial Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) in order to transport a restricted firearm from one location to another. There is no fee for an ATT.

To be eligible for an ATT you must have a valid firearms licence or FAC authorizing you to possess restricted firearms.

In some cases you can apply by phone; in other cases you have to fill out form CAFC 679. For more information or to apply for an ATT by phone, call 1 800 731-4000 and ask the operator to transfer your call to the appropriate CFO.



Information
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Otsoa
01-25-2005, 12:01 AM
CanadianGunNutz is government run site full of G men and yet everibody goes there.

:lol:
CGN was set up by one person after him and several others decided to leave an American gun forum after an incident resulting in members getting banned for stupid little things. The site is not run by any governmental officials. The member base runs the gamut from people who just want to hunt, business owners, competitive shooters, collectors, members of various law enforcement agencies, serving and retired military personnel, and firearms collectors.

CGN is a forum for law-abiding Canadian gun owners(and other gun owners of other countries) to get together and discuss various aspects of their hobby. As stated in the forum rules, discussion of anything that is remotely illegal will result in a ban.

There are some who dislike the site and that is fine. However, there are many people who love going to that site for the wealth of information regarding firearms ownership, activities available, and various laws to owning firearms in Canada. That said, the age base of the forum is generally past 30 years of age so younger people might get turned off of the site.

charlie
01-25-2005, 12:05 AM
C'mon guys give the guy a break, people in the know should know that the launch and detonation sound of the projectile should sound different.

Just a couple of guys having some fun. No harm done.

ZoneOne
01-25-2005, 12:37 AM
well that wins the award for

Stupid Stuff Not to DO!

I think it is cool - no doubt.

But this day in age - I wouldn't be trying that **** in a neighborhood.

there's ppl out there that would just shoot you - and when the cops came

it would probably have been justified

Ameen
01-25-2005, 03:54 AM
i am in alberta and i am wondering where did u get an AR-15 and how much did you pay for it.

Otsoa
01-25-2005, 04:10 AM
Ameen...as long as you have a PAL (possesion-acquisition licence) that has the restricted subclass, almost any large gunshop out there will sell you an AR-15 in any barrel length. Prices can run the range from $1100 and up depending on configuration, manufacturer, etc. In Calgary the store The Shooting Edge sells AR-15s and also has an indoor range. In Edmonton there is Milarm and P&D Enterprises.

Once again, you have to have the restricted classification on your PAL to buy one and then belong to a licenced gun range in order to shoot it. You can only shoot an AR-15 at an approved range...nowhere else. If you don't have a PAL then you can sign up for a gun safety course which will teach you the basics of gun safety and then allow you to take the non-restricted test and then the restricted test. Most gunshops will be able to direct you to who offers the courses in your local area.

Hope this helps

ramy
01-25-2005, 04:17 AM
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ramy
01-25-2005, 04:22 AM
OK explain this to me:

1. You are in Canada
2. Where did you legally buy and M203
3. Where can you legally fire an M203
4. On your PAL (if you have one) what category does an M203 fall under?

Colt M203s are hard to find in Canada because they are now illegal to import them into Canada. They used to be legal to bring in the country not anymore... I think they are legal to have but not legal to import into Canada thats why they are rare.

As for category I think they are not even considered a firearm because the velocity is 447 f/s or something like that which is under 500 f/s

tab
01-25-2005, 08:46 AM
Is that M203 glued on, or am I just missing the attachment point?

Andyman
01-25-2005, 10:39 AM
lol... the M203 is not glued on. It sat too low for the trigger loop to hook on the mag well when I had it attached to a picatinny rail on the handguard (which it was designed to do). I removed the picatinny mount from the top of the M203, used the two existing threaded holes and drilled and tapped a new one, and bolted it to the handguard in three places. I'm not sure how it'll hold up, but we'll see. We've got some rocket propelled rounds that should cut down on the recoil some.

The firework we used is called the Thunder King 2000. It's the most powerful "consumer" firework that we can legally purchase. The firework is in a tube is called a "C" tube, which is 38MM or so, a few wraps of electrical tape and it'll fit nicely in my 40MM chamber/barrel. I'm not sure if it'd fit in a 37MM or not. You can setup the firework to fire a few different ways (note that replacing the wick might be considered tampering with the firework, hence illegal.), a primer lights the wick (not much fun), replace the wick with quickmatch and the primer lights the quickmatch (more fun), the primer (or screw) makes an electrical contact with the firing pin and completes the circuit to an electric match (lots of fun but expensive).

We'll have some more videos of the rocket propelled rounds soon. I'll try and get some videos of the explosion too, but it's just flash powder, so it's more of a flash bang effect. It doesn't explode on contact (even if we fire it at a brick wall), and that's the time delay fuse you can see streaking in the frame capture.

In Kanada this wonderful country it's legal to run around your lawn and fire blanks into the air with your handguns and assault rifles. lol. Not smart, but legal.

No worries folks.

MapleLeafInfantry
01-25-2005, 11:14 AM
what in gods green earth possessed you to do this in your uniform?

the legality issue of what you done is a small lapse of judgment, yes however,
taking photos of you doing it in cf uniform is a bloody disgrace.
what was running through your mind, what if someone had complained, do you ahve any idea of the greater rammifications your stunts may have caused.

do you know how many snr nco's and officers browse this site frequently?

NaOH
01-25-2005, 12:33 PM
what in gods green earth possessed you to do this in your uniform?

I highly doubt he's in the Armed Forces.

Clete Torres
01-25-2005, 01:30 PM
Andyman is so completely full of ****, but at least he knows where to lay his hands on some pretty decent Chinese fireworks. More than I can say about you **** ing rubes that thought he was actually launching grenades. Show your face Andyfag, trust me, the authorities could care less.

Ameen
01-25-2005, 01:30 PM
Ameen...as long as you have a PAL (possesion-acquisition licence) that has the restricted subclass, almost any large gunshop out there will sell you an AR-15 in any barrel length. Prices can run the range from $1100 and up depending on configuration, manufacturer, etc. In Calgary the store The Shooting Edge sells AR-15s and also has an indoor range. In Edmonton there is Milarm and P&D Enterprises.

Once again, you have to have the restricted classification on your PAL to buy one and then belong to a licenced gun range in order to shoot it. You can only shoot an AR-15 at an approved range...nowhere else. If you don't have a PAL then you can sign up for a gun safety course which will teach you the basics of gun safety and then allow you to take the non-restricted test and then the restricted test. Most gunshops will be able to direct you to who offers the courses in your local area.

Hope this helps

thanks alot, that was a perfect answer.

Andyman
01-25-2005, 01:45 PM
I was wearing a face mask ONLY because it was very cold (-24°C which is -11°F) and very windy. I did NOT do it to hide my face from the police.

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01-25-2005, 02:38 PM
Thats not bad at all, you should see what some of the good'ol boys do with shotguns and rifles around here :lol:

http://img166.exs.cx/img166/9127/myshotgun5yv.jpg

;)