spaniars with us guys

[MARINO]

This pics had been taken by a US marine who was with spanish forces in irak.Here you have some of them but in this page you have alot of other good pics
http://chromedomezone.com/spanish_army.htm
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20050.jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20011.jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20022.jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20041.jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20(28).jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20(26).jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20035.jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20019.jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20049.jpg

[thatguy96]

Nice pics...I thought the CETME L had been removed from frontline service? Or is it still used with armoured vehicle personel and the like (which would appear to be the case from the pics)?

[MARINO]

http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20(13).jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20(12).jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20(10).jpg
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20(33).jpg

[MARINO]

Is a diferent version fo CETME L this version is for snipers, they used it when they are stopped to cover, them and the vehicule, but i don't know why they use it insted of Barret or acuraccy.

[wholagun]

Any one know how the G36 is fairing for the Spaniards in Iraq, I know that there were questions about sand sticking to the non metal parts of the G36 or something like that, and this was to be the first real battle test for the G36. Are the Spanish troops happy with them, and hav there been any complaints from them thus far?

[He219]

Great Photos, Marino!
:D


Those CETME rifles appear to be 5.56 NATO and not the 7.62 NATO versions. Am I correct? The 7.62 version would make sense for range requirements (sniping), but the rifles shown appear to have no long range optics either.

The Skull and Bones are a nice touch. What's with the Lusitania 8?

Thanks Marino!

:P

Edit:

As for the G36, technically no dirt should get into the receiver at all through the gas system. I would'nt expect to hear of any real issues. My $0.02!
;)

[MARINO]

Lusitania is a light armour cavallery regiment, i think it was founded during napoleonic wars,, to kick french asses.
I think they are 7,75 but i'm not sure, i know that this vehicules called VEC usually bring a sniper,i have pics of this gun with optic, i will post it tomorrow

[MARINO]

they hev any problems, this monday and a week ago they have had their first combat with iraki "resistance"(terrorist) they had hurt many of they an captured them, g-36 is a good gun in all sense

[REMOV]

Those CETME rifles appear to be 5.56 NATO and not the 7.62 NATO versions. Am I correct?Right. This is 5,56mm CETME Modelo L. Unsuccessful assault rifle I must said. There were a lot of problems with accuracy, reliability and durability of this gun. It was procuced only 13 years (1987-2000) and Spanish soldiers meets the G36E with pleasure.

[Clay]

7.62 NATO is one of the best rounds out there for good range up to 400yrd+ and I didnt no the G36 was that huge, must pack a punch and weight alot.

[He219]

Thus the popularity of the M14 with US forces, Clay! :D

G36: 3.6 kg (3.3 kg G36E) empty; 998 / 758 mm
CETME L: 3.4 kg empty; 925 mm (860/665 mm mod. LC)
G3: 4.5kg empty; 1023 mm
M4: 2.52 kg empty; 838 mm (stock extended); 757 mm (stock fully collapsed)
M16: 2.89 kg empty; 986 mm
AK-47: 4,3 kg; AKM 3,14 kg empty; 870 mm

:P

Thank REMOV!

[Clay]

Thus the popularity of the M14 with US forces, Clay! :D
I saw alot of 101's air still using them too.

[Otsoa]

Excellent photos Marino, keep them coming :D
VIVA ESPANA!!!

[Loco]

This is not the Cetme L, but the Cetme LV, specially adapted with a mount for a scope(Visor), and are of 5,56mm caliber of course; the ones of 7,76mm were the Cetmes C(el chopo). About the quality of Cetme L there were many stories, but only the ones who used it could talk, I hadn´t any problem with it and if it failed the shot, was my eye not the barrel, but I´d changed it by a G36 if I could, but by then it wasn´t born the G36. Actually by the year 1987 the most of Cetme L were just delivered to the main military units, the production in facory had began years before. The Cetmes LV and LC(short) are widely used today both in the military and police corps and are useful, and I think cute too. Factory of Cetmes(rifles, explosives, and armoured vehicles too) was sold after many financial problems to G.Dynamics, thats why Cetmes are being. G36 is better, a newer generation rifle, and very much expensive too, I like it very much but I´ve never touched anyone, and still I can´t stop of thinking a G36 is too wide and long.
This soldiers are from cavallery, and thats posibly why they have Cetmes LV. The regiment is the Lusitania 8, is pretty older than napoleonic wars, it was founded in 1709, in fact the skull with bones ensign was given in the battle of Madonna di Olmo, Italy, in 1744, when the most of riders perished. About Lusitania 8:
http://www.ejercito.mde.es/organizacion/far/lusitania.html
http://www.ejercito.mde.es/organizacion/far/lusitania.html
http://www.mde.es/mde/public/revista/160/pf1_a.htm
http://www.caballeria.8m.com/unidades.htm

[MARINO]

An interesting pic, in all Spanish cavallery regiment, they bring a pony-tail
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20016.jpg

SLEEPY HOLLOW???
http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20010.jpg

http://chromedomezone.com/images/Spanish%20Army%20023.jpg

[MARINO]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031105/i/r1463785031.jpg
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031105/i/r3382661581.jpg
:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031105/capt.sge.bnv50.051103163114.photo02.default-384x256.jpg
Spanish soldiers on patrol in the Iraqi city of Najaf. Haidar Mehdi Matar al-Mayyali, the governor of Najaf, declared an open-ended general strike in protest at the lack of security after a judge was shot dead.(AFP/File/Thomas Coex)


http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031103/capt.sge.atk92.031103175904.photo00.default-384x256.jpg
The sun sets as a Spanish soldier patrols Najaf. Muhan Jabr al-Shuwaili -- the judge who headed the Najaf Tribunal -- was shot dead by Saddam loyalists in the Iraqi city of Najaf.(AFP/File/Thomas Coex
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031029/capt.sge.ufu36.291003201328.photo03.default-258x392.jpg
Spanish soldiers carry the coffin of sergeant Luis Puga, who died 26 October in Iraq (news - web sites), at Vigo airport, in northwestern Spain(AFP/Miguel Riopa
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/*******_ids/20031105/i/1918840842.jpg

[MARINO]

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/afpji/20031105/031105184545.26tb30b50b.jpg

[MARINO]

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/afpji/20031105/031105184545.26tb30b50b.jpg

[Gringo]

Thus the popularity of the M14 with US forces, Clay! :D

G36: 3.6 kg (3.3 kg G36E) empty; 998 / 758 mm
CETME L: 3.4 kg empty; 925 mm (860/665 mm mod. LC)
G3: 4.5kg empty; 1023 mm
M4: 2.52 kg empty; 838 mm (stock extended); 757 mm (stock fully collapsed)
M16: 2.89 kg empty; 986 mm
AK-47: 4,3 kg; AKM 3,14 kg empty; 870 mm

:P

Thank REMOV!

The M16A1 weaighs 2.89kg empty, but the M16A2 weighs 3.77kg empty.

[rob]

there are a lot of different numbers. colt and most other manufacturers list it as 3.4

[NcDeuce]

M16A2 is a fine rifle. I'm curious to know how much it weighs loaded, it's still quite light then.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031105/i/r1463785031.jpg
Nice farmer's tan, ;) she can patrol my street anytime...

[rafaelcb]

Founded 21st December 1.709

The motto "LUSITANIA TESSERA OMNI ARMATURA FORTIER" (Lusitania's flasg is stronger than any armor) was awarded in 1718 after the courage shown in the battle of Melazzo (Sicily)

After the Battle of Madona del Olmo, (30 September 1.744), the regiment won the Skull and bones coat of arms as well as a black ribbon for its flag.

In 1777 the regiment takes part in the conquest of Sacramento, California-

In the Battle of Tamames, (18 de Octubre de 1.809), it won the right to bear "Venció en Tamames" (Won at Tabares)

[Loco]

Ehem, I can´t resist: The owner of this face, the journalist Letizia Ortiz, anchorwoman in the news of TVE channel, will get married with the prince of Asturias, Felipe, future king of Spain, so, in a handful of years since now, Letizia will be the next queen of Spain, and me, as a spanish republican, can´t say I dislike her: actually, I love her! Felipe, be careful with her, I´m watching you. In this photo taken in April of this year, she´s in a mosque in Baghdad in the last war, where she informed for Tv. http://estaticos.elmundo.es/documentos/2003/11/espana/boda_principe/album1/imagenes_album/imagen5.jpg
http://estaticos.elmundo.es/documentos/2003/11/espana/boda_principe/imagenes/letizia.jpg[/img]
Although the above soldier woman of the farmer´s tan I´m sure she would be a magnific queen too, at least she´d save a lot of money to the national treasure in her personal security and she´d give vigourous sons to the crown.
Rafaelcb, there is a mistaken about Lusitania regiment, in fact it never was in California, but in Sacramento of what today is Uruguay, in SouthAmerica, where there was a war with the portugues empire at the end of XVIII century. I think in California served regiments of catalans volunteers, mountain troops, by this age, but I´m not sure, I´d have to consult it.
Hurry up smart and beauty women!