View Full Version : Need more info and photos on this thing
shadower
02-01-2005, 07:37 PM
Need more info and photos on this thing and on the others german adaptations of foreign weapons like ppsh in 9mm para carcano in 7.92 and other weapons. You name it!
http://www.mek-schuetzen.de/Blueprints/volksmaschinenpistole_1.jpg
Where to begin?
The MP-3008, I've heard two stories about the weapon which may be equally valid each. One is the obvious need for small arms, the MP-38/40 series of weapons were expensive and time consuming to produce, so the Germans being somewhat practical looked at the captured Sten's in inventory and looked towards replicating them. The other part of the story goes more into the side feeding Sten copies which were made to exacting specifications as the Sten. Some have suspected the reason for these was for putting in German sabetours dressed and kitted out as British troops to wreck havoc. I am partially disinclined to believe this to a degree in that they had to have had captured quantities of British armaments from the various battles fought, why go to all the trouble to produce a copy of an exsisting weapon sitting on some shelf collecting dust?
I'll post a link for a site that is doing research on this very weapon...
http://www.vvm.com/~histpart/mp3008.htm
Until Later
TR
shadower
02-02-2005, 03:31 PM
Thanx!
shadower
02-02-2005, 04:32 PM
I remember reading in Yugoslav weapons magazine(few years prior to war) about those rifles.They said 7 of them were found in some lake in Austria in sealed box on a sunk boat and that all seven of them were diferent in some point with wery bad finish etc,...That's all I can remember now.
I have heard claims about these Sten copies before, one was that a weapon was discovered in British inventory decades later that upon closer inspection was determined to have been a German copy...
Until Later
TR
REMOV
02-03-2005, 10:57 AM
The other part of the story goes more into the side feeding Sten copies which were made to exacting specifications as the Sten. Some have suspected the reason for these was for putting in German sabetours dressed and kitted out as British troops to wreck havoc.It was Potsdam Gerät (Gerät Potsdam), direct copy of the British Sten Mk II, designed for German black ops. In January 1945 manufactured ca. 28 000 such weapons (at very high unit price, ca. 450 USD/each, normal Sten Mk II costs only 14 USD!).
The next one, called MP 3008 or Neumünster Gerät (Gerät Neumünster), was slightly different than Potsdam Gerät, the the horizontal British magazines well was replaced by a typical German vertical well. It was designed for Volkssturm. Ca. 50 000 was ordered, 9672 was produced.
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