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He219
10-30-2003, 07:07 AM
http://photo.worldnews.com/PhotoArchive//uploads/2003/10/30/uploaded-38015_large.jpg

Officials fear second Japanese satellite affected by solar flare (http://www.canada.com/halifax/aroundtown/story.asp?id=2F428258-6A6F-471B-A24B-9A8B75B3F7C2)



Canadian Press
Thursday, October 30, 2003

TOKYO (AP) - Japanese space agency officials, already forced to temporarily shut down one satellite, said Thursday they had lost contact with a second satellite that may have been affected by an electromagnetic storm caused by the largest solar flare observed in decades.

"We have completely lost touch with the Midori 2, and don't know what's going on with it," said Junichi Moriuma, a spokesman for the agency, known as JAXA. He said the agency is trying to restore communications. "At this point, we don't know if there is a relation between this accident and the solar flare," he said. "We are still in the process of figuring out what caused the problems."

Midori 2 was launched in December 2002 and served as an environmental observation satellite.

Moriuma said communications with the satellite were lost on Saturday, amid the heightened solar flare activity. He said the solar flare is believed to be the second biggest ever observed and happens only once every couple of decades.

He said the agency's main concern is that the particles and radiation emitted in the flare might destroy computer sensors.

The agency said Wednesday that the communications satellite Kodama had malfunctioned and had been switched into a safe mode after being hit by the solar flare.

But officials said the satellite, used as a data relay point, was to be reactivated when the solar activity subsided and added that the outage wasn't causing any major communication disruptions.

The flare was believed to produce a particle cloud 13 times larger than Earth. The resulting geomagnetic storm was expected to be among the most powerful of its kind.

Kodama was launched on Sept. 10, 2002, from the southern Japan island of Tanegashima to transmit data between satellites and ground-based research facilities.

It was planned for seven years of operation.


Check THIS (http://www.nasa.gov/mpg/52746main_10.28eit.mpg) out! :P
http://media.canada.com/scripts/locate.asp?id=b3a3fee6-308d-4369-88f2-ee108d95f7e0Hi-Res (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/52840main_10.29eit.gif)

The image was taken with the Extreme ultraviolet Imaging Telescope (EIP) aboard the SOHO (Solar and Heliospheric Observatory) satellite. The telescope is sensitive to extreme ultraviolet light, resulting in the green hue. (AP Photo/NASA)

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/52745main_10.28C3_tn.gif

SOHO LASCO provides an eclipsed view of the Sun. Here the massive strength of the coronal mass ejection (CME) peppers the camera with particles. The first frame showing the halo of the CME creates a nearly perfect circle around the eclipsed view and is very rare. Credit: NASA / ESA

View Movies (http://150.144.30.101/data/realtime/mpeg/).

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/10.28Flare.html
http://hesperia.gsfc.nasa.gov/sftheory/

Herrmannek
10-31-2003, 11:10 AM
Great event :). Have seen aurora for free, bad I live close to city so lights spoiled view :( .

Here is example(This pic wasn't taken by me of course :) )
http://www.astronom.pl/zorze/2003/zo030530_3.jpg

He219
10-31-2003, 11:13 AM
AWESOME Photo!

I have yet to see an Aurora! :(

Thanks, Herrmannek!

woot

Seraphim
10-31-2003, 11:54 AM
WoW nice pic...I've only seen two auroras...but nothing near as close as that. Would see some nice ones right now but the snow storm came in.
My satellite tv is out right now :|

http://www.msnbc.com/c/0/189/700/10x7/twip_2003_1030_05.jpg

TRACER_BULLET
10-31-2003, 10:44 PM
i work for a satellite communications company and we've been on pins and needles waiting to see what "mite" be affected :|

He219
10-31-2003, 11:30 PM
That's the best image I've seen so far (http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/aurora/gallery_01oct03_page6.html), UCT_Sinasta!

Thanks for sharing!

:D

How long is the anticipated duration, TRACER_BULLET?

TRACER_BULLET
11-01-2003, 04:16 AM
That's the best image I've seen so far (http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/aurora/gallery_01oct03_page6.html), UCT_Sinasta!

Thanks for sharing!

:D

How long is the anticipated duration, TRACER_BULLET?

sence you asked here is some info :)

well i was told that 18 hours after the 1st coronal mass ejection [cme] it hit and passed the earth. But aparently there was a BIGGER cme yesterday (a class 11 i was told). I was told it could knock out the satellites we use, blow out our power grid, blow out our UPS back up & the 2 generators and just about cook everything.

Yes, It Is True; Another X-11 Class Flare Has Fired Away...10/30/03
Sunspot region 486 has unleashed another "large" X-Class flare. It has been rated as X-11. Expect auroras to continue in
mid to lower latitudes. Probably not as far down as Texas this time, but
could be down to Utah. I have been told, Europe is
having quite the show.
But don't let the pretty colors fool you, these flares can throw quite a
punch. There is a good chance we will experience
satellite interference. In fact, Japan has reported two of their satellites
have been shut down. I am unsure as to "what type" of
satellite's they were. The mere fact that it is not clear what "type", may
suggest some type of "surveillance satellite".
Today's sunspot count shows an increase of (100) one hundred since
yesterday. It is now (330) three hundred thirty. Region
486 looks nastier than ever. And sunspot region 488 doesn't look much
better. Hold on to your 'foil hat' ;), the show is just
warming up.

Equation:
Sunspots => Solar Flares => Magnetic Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream
Currents => Extreme Weather

I would say there is a 100% chance of M-Class flares to occur within the
next 12 hours. 75% chance of X-Class flare during
this same period. Watch for continued "freak storms" along with "record
breaking" weather. Most likely we will see high
winds in the way of 'micro-burst', 'straight-line' winds, 'wind shears', and
tornadoes

http://150.144.30.101/data/realtime/javagif/gifs_small/20031028_1112_eit_195.gif
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2003_10_28/eit195.gif
http://www.dxlc.com/solar/images/solar.gif


Green: 0-20% probability, Yellow: 20-60% probability, Red: 60-100% probability.
map from the 29th of Oct.
http://www.dxlc.com/solar/images/AR_CH_20031029.jpg
map from the 28th of Oct.
http://www.dxlc.com/solar/images/AR_CH_20031028.jpg

map from the 31st of Oct.
http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/ARMaps/Today/20031031.1632_armap.png

The geomagnetic field is expected to be at major to extremely severe storm levels on October 30-31 becoming active to major storm on November 1 (barring further major earth directed CMEs). Further major proton flares could occur anytime over the next week and cause extremely bad propagation on both low and high frequencies

this info is mostly from an email i got from a co workier so its not my work. and from this site http://cyberspaceorbit.com/indexback100.html

usa320
11-01-2003, 11:35 AM
strange, from what ive read only minor storms were expected into like monday, after that it was supposed to calm down.

I dont care though, all my **** seems to be working fine... My HD didnt get fried, my phones still work, and all 552 channels are still kickin.

Nawlins
11-01-2003, 12:13 PM
Probably not as far down as Texas this time, but
could be down to Utah. I have been told, Europe is
having quite the show.

:( That's too bad, I'd love to see them.

(Anybody seen Frequency?)

Seraphim
11-01-2003, 01:42 PM
I saw only part of Frequency, had to go out :(
Was good though...I always wanted to watch it and it eventually came on tv.

Herrmannek
11-01-2003, 01:45 PM
I saw only part of Frequency, had to go out :(
Was good though...I always wanted to watch it and it eventually came on tv.
What is frequency?

usa320
11-01-2003, 01:47 PM
Its a movie...

I was half drunk when i saw it...if i remember correctly the Aurora borealis somehow makes the guys HAM radio bring him back in time or something...

Seoulstriker
11-01-2003, 01:51 PM
The sun ejaculated:


http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2003_10_28/c3cme.mpg

He219
11-01-2003, 01:52 PM
It's a movie (http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/f/frequency.html) with Dennis Quaid.

It's relevant through atmospherics and HAM radios 'frequencies'...

CME's seem less supernatural though...

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=455082

A huge wave hits the protections in front of the port of Genoa Nervi, Italy, Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003. Persistent rains and strong winds hit the Italian peninsula Saturday, marking the first fullscale day of Fall. (AP Photo/Italo Banchero)

....and more part of nature's cycles. Let's hope the supernova is long away!

:D

Seoulstriker
11-01-2003, 01:54 PM
It's a movie (http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/f/frequency.html) with Dennis Quaid.

It's relevant through atmospherics and HAM radios 'frequencies'...

CME's seem less supernatural though...

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=455082

A huge wave hits the protections in front of the port of Genoa Nervi, Italy, Saturday, Nov. 1, 2003. Persistent rains and strong winds hit the Italian peninsula Saturday, marking the first fullscale day of Fall. (AP Photo/Italo Banchero)

....and more part of natures cycle. Let's hope the supernova is long away!

:D


hmmmm... i think the sun has much more potential to destroy the earth than global warming could ever be able to do. :)

Seraphim
11-01-2003, 02:11 PM
Its a movie...

I was half drunk when i saw it...if i remember correctly the Aurora borealis somehow makes the guys HAM radio bring him back in time or something...

Well it didnt bring him back in time but he was able to communicate with his dad from the past using the HAM radio.