U.S. to Send 690,000 Troops to S. Korea in Case of War

[J-10]

U.S. to Send 690,000 Troops to S. Korea in Case of War

SEOUL, Feb. 4 (Yonhap) -- About 690,000 U.S. troops, together with 2,000 military planes and 160 warships, would be sent as reinforcements to defend South Korea in the event of war breaking out on the Korean Peninsula, the Defense Ministry said Friday.

The reinforcements would include several carrier battle groups capable of launching multilateral naval operations and air strikes against North Korea's border artillery forces, as well as self-guided weapons to hit the North's air force facilities and weapons of mass destruction, the ministry said.
http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20050204/300200000020050204170158E2.html

[James]

From where?

[Flagg]

Is it wrong for me to assume fact checking is done on every news story?

Or do they just make **** up as they go along?

[James]

Is it wrong for me to assume fact checking is done on every news story?

Or do they just make **** up as they go along?

I don't know how things are for you Kiwis, but when it comes to the U.S, assume nothing... You never can tell what people are thinking...

[Nizark]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it

[AmericanImperialist]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it
We would be able to see them mobilizing long before a full out attack on South Korea. I'm sure we could get enough troops to bolster the ~40,000 strong contingent to Korea in time to atleast hold off an attack until a counter attack could be made. Seuol would be rubble though, either via a nuke or the 15,000 artillery pieces NK has aimed at it.

[Stolly]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it
We would be able to see them mobilizing long before a full out attack on South Korea. I'm sure we could get enough troops to bolster the ~40,000 strong contingent to Korea in time to atleast hold off an attack until a counter attack could be made. Seuol would be rubble though, either via a nuke or the 15,000 artillery pieces NK has aimed at it.

Not with 135,000 troops in Iraq you can't.

[AmericanImperialist]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it
We would be able to see them mobilizing long before a full out attack on South Korea. I'm sure we could get enough troops to bolster the ~40,000 strong contingent to Korea in time to atleast hold off an attack until a counter attack could be made. Seuol would be rubble though, either via a nuke or the 15,000 artillery pieces NK has aimed at it.

Not with 135,000 troops in Iraq you can't.
Oh yes we can. It sure wouldn't be popular back home, but it's quite feasable.

[Stolly]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it
We would be able to see them mobilizing long before a full out attack on South Korea. I'm sure we could get enough troops to bolster the ~40,000 strong contingent to Korea in time to atleast hold off an attack until a counter attack could be made. Seuol would be rubble though, either via a nuke or the 15,000 artillery pieces NK has aimed at it.

Not with 135,000 troops in Iraq you can't.
Oh yes we can. It sure wouldn't be popular back home, but it's quite feasable.

The army reserve has 35,000 troops left. 690,000 troops is a wildly optimistic number. A draft would take the best part of a year to produce half a million troops.

[Siddar]

North Korea was viewed as the main major conventnal war threat for US pre 9/11 so I dont doubt there are were plans to send this size force to korea if war broke out.

This size deployment would take 4 to 6 months to acomplish though.

Iraq and afghanistan will effect these numbers probally only 590.000 instead of 690.000 could be sent if this were to happen while iraq is still simmering. As for manpower president would have to get a declaration of war are a fast change to reserve guard activation laws. But given that US military numbers around 2 million people the numbers given arnt that far out of line with reality.

[Malc]

That 690,000 number has probably been misinterpreted and probably is multi national forces, including South Korean, but still the US would probably make up about 2/3 of this force which would probably mean large reserve and national guard call ups plus maybe some major recruiting or even a draft, (watches over weight American kid go noooo!) Britian would probably comit upwards of 50,000 possibly 60,000+ depending on other commitments at the time, France would hopefully comit a simmilar size force and other Europeans would probably comit smaller numbers.

[Turhapuro]

That 690,000 number has probably been misinterpreted and probably is multi national forces, including South Korean, but still the US would probably make up about 2/3 of this force
South Korea has almost 600 000 troops so I can't see how US could make up almost 2/3 of that force if South Korean army is included.

[BlackFlag]

From where? draft.

[Satyr]

Do you think China would be neutral in case of a war?

[Mailman]

Yes, China has far more to lose through intervening where its not wanted than it does by letting NK sink in its own goo.

Mailman

[DPGLAW]

If NK attacks SK, or us, why not just use an ICBM on their asses..,..I mean it is evident by the statements made by the retarded NK leaders that they intend to use WMD if attacking us or SK...so I think we would be justified in shoving an ICBM up their ass should they decide to follow through on their threats.....

It would certainly end the war with a quickness and they and all their weapons of mass destruction would be gone as well so in my opinion their use would be a win-win proposition.....

[futurepilot2004]

It would certainly end the war with a quickness and they and all their weapons of mass destruction would be gone as well so in my opinion their use would be a win-win proposition..... apart from a few hundred thousand civilian deaths.....but their only commies so its ok right? :roll:

[B25Hmitchell]

ICBM launch would panic a lot of countries. Better to use other nuke tipped munitions.

There was talk of arming ICBM's with conventional explosives, for when something needed to be destroyed within 10 minutes--but the fact that other contries will all of a sudden get the alarm that the united states has launched a ICBM would cause some alarm.

[MKtexan]

are you kiding me?? Use ICBM's?? Thats insane. We cant just decide we want to nuke them and then do it. It has to be provoked. nuclear weapons are terrible, and they are not exactly made to be precise, they destroy almost everything. I would not support use of nuclear weapons unless there is a realy good reason to use them. Also, consider the damage it would do to the US around the world if we just decided to nuke North Korea. If North Korea used nukes on South Korea, or the US, it would obviously have to assume it would get itself obliterated by US nuclear weapons. Im not so sure the crazy leaders in NK want a sure death by US nukes. if NK invades SK then they will probably use conventional forces, and avoid use of WMD's.

Just some thoughts, not an "Educated" opinion. ;)

[ZaakM433]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it
We would be able to see them mobilizing long before a full out attack on South Korea. I'm sure we could get enough troops to bolster the ~40,000 strong contingent to Korea in time to atleast hold off an attack until a counter attack could be made. Seuol would be rubble though, either via a nuke or the 15,000 artillery pieces NK has aimed at it.

Not with 135,000 troops in Iraq you can't.
Oh yes we can. It sure wouldn't be popular back home, but it's quite feasable.

The army reserve has 35,000 troops left. 690,000 troops is a wildly optimistic number. A draft would take the best part of a year to produce half a million troops.

You completely forgot a call up. We have a lot of people trained that are still in usable condition who are no longer in the forces. And they can all be called up until what? they are 80?

[dghost]

Lets say for sake of arguement that we had the 690,000 troops available...how long would it take to arm, prep, mobilize and send, along with 2000 planes and a few hundred ships, into korea. If the north decided to invade, it wouldnt be like gulf war 1, where we would have have time to build up our forces. Those lil wankers have been planning for this for like 40 years. If all those assets were available, they would only be used as a counterattack, and maybe a way to save seoul if anything is left of it
We would be able to see them mobilizing long before a full out attack on South Korea. I'm sure we could get enough troops to bolster the ~40,000 strong contingent to Korea in time to atleast hold off an attack until a counter attack could be made. Seuol would be rubble though, either via a nuke or the 15,000 artillery pieces NK has aimed at it.

Not with 135,000 troops in Iraq you can't.
Oh yes we can. It sure wouldn't be popular back home, but it's quite feasable.

The army reserve has 35,000 troops left. 690,000 troops is a wildly optimistic number. A draft would take the best part of a year to produce half a million troops.

You completely forgot a call up. We have a lot of people trained that are still in usable condition who are no longer in the forces. And they can all be called up until what? they are 80?

And the US Forces that either just got back from Iraq/Afghanistan or are doing deployment prep for a tour.

Remember: OIF I had 120k people involved. OIF II had a similar number - and is largely composed of forces that were not involved in OIF I. OIF III is just starting up, and by OIF IV the forces that were originally involved with OIF I should have been rotated back in. you could quite feasibly divert troops that are either goign or scheduled to go.

690k? I don't see that. but you could get a decent force in place fairly quickly.

[ABNGUY]

From where?

FRANCE! :D

[Dominique]

The 690, 000 number is "doable", but it would include sailors and Marines stationed on ships off the coast. They would also have to call up Army and Air Force Reserve and National Guard Units, Inidvidual Mobilization Augmenties (IMA), Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) troops, and Marine reservist. I guarantee the ywould impliment a stop loss/stop move order and probably recall retired (as they are doing now) troops.

[moughoun]

It would certainly end the war with a quickness and they and all their weapons of mass destruction would be gone as well so in my opinion their use would be a win-win proposition..... apart from a few hundred thousand civilian deaths.....but their only commies so its ok right? :roll:

yes but he is special you know, he's going to be in army intelligence........seriously :|

[wxc96]

Yes, I think it's also very doabale..... we have marines on Japan and Okinawa and 24 inf in Hawaii for quick deployment and all of the assets of the US pacific fleet. Also all of the units of I corp stationed in Ft Lewis and all of the Marine unit in Socal.

Oh, don't forget 2nd ID in korea itself

[Frens]

Do you think China would be neutral in case of a war?

China? China would be a target

[wxc96]

I'm sure china will be neutral....No more NK would make the region lot more stable and think of all the trading china can do with Japan, Korea and US

[BlackFlag]

If this does happen...Britain's got our back for sure (they are our G-Dogg's), Canada/Australia/New Zealand will send us some soldiers, Japan will send some soldiers/naval support, S. Korea will for sure send forces like their Marine Corps, Germany may help us out because they have alot of cool new toys they probabaly want to break in (Eurofighter/G-36 variants etc), France will probably protest, Russia is just going to sit back and laugh, China I think will give us permission to use their airspace....Hell just send the Iraqi Natl Gaurd there...they are a bunch of brave bad asses...overall if N. Korea decides to be a douche bag...they are fukked.

[Frens]

690,000 to fight against N.Korea?? I'm quite sure the target will be China :roll:

[moughoun]

If this does happen...Britain's got our back for sure (they are our G-Dogg's), Canada/Australia/New Zealand will send us some soldiers, Japan will send some soldiers/naval support, S. Korea will for sure send forces like their Marine Corps, Germany may help us out because they have alot of cool new toys they probabaly want to break in (Eurofighter/G-36 variants etc), France will probably protest, Russia is just going to sit back and laugh, China I think will give us permission to use their airspace....Hell just send the Iraqi Natl Gaurd there...they are a bunch of brave bad asses...overall if N. Korea decides to be a douche bag...they are fukked.

you have great strategic vision, the Brit's won't even go into Iran with you, the German's :lol:

[usa320]

Hell just send the Iraqi Natl Gaurd there...they are a bunch of brave bad asses...overall if N. Korea decides to be a douche bag...they are fukked.

By time NK invades SK, the Iraqi national guard will be tied up with their mechanized and airborne charge into Tehran...

p-)

I think the main reason the Iraqi army is being built up so much, is because they would be useful in a future offesnive against iran. These guys arent the rag-tag army saddam used to have. These guys, while less in numbers than the old army, are getting good training and they are highly motivated, and in comming months, they will receive more and more modern equipment.

As for NK, i really dont think we would need large numbers of troops to stop an invasion. I think the use of airpower would play a key role in stopping any North korean operations. Sure, armored, artillery and to a less extent infantry would play a role, but the thing about NK is they are a conventional army, ready to fight a battle our troops have trained to fight for 40 years. We know exactly how they would attack, and we know how to hit em. We dont ahve to worry about unknowns like we do with counterinsurgency operations in iraq. In NK, it would be your traditional battlefield. I think the NK artillery and armored units would get crushed by A-10's and Apaches the minute they crossed the border. No one can stop the US in conventional war, hence the use of unconventional tactics in Iraq.