'No better friend' to US than Britain: Rice

[Bluezoo]

'No better friend' to US than Britain: Rice


LONDON (AFP) - The United States has "no better friend... no better ally" than Britain, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said at the start of her first foreign mission as the US top diplomat.

"We have no better friend, we have no better ally. We have done so much together and we still have so much to do together," she said at a joint press conference with Foreign Secretary Jack Straw.

Rice said Britain joined the United States in fighting in the war on terror and in promoting freedom and democracy abroad.

"The United Kingdom and the United States understand that aspiration for freedom and we are determined to support people who seek that freedom," she said, echoing the doctrine ****ounced by President George W. Bush (news - web sites) at the outset of his second term.

In his welcome to Rice, Straw announced the countries had a "formidable program of diplomacy" on their agendas.

"There's certainly a great deal of work to be done," he said.

He said the two had discussed, among other topics, developments in Iraq , Afghanistan,Iran, EU-US relations and Sudan.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050204/wl_uk_afp/usricebritainblairally_050204163307&e=3

[Sharp]

Where is Australia ?

[mack pl]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

[Bluezoo]

Err, why don't we ask her? :lol:

[Sharp]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

absolutely :D
and Poland ? :lol: ;)

[weissent]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

and Saudi Arabia :P

[samjung23]

Someone needs to remind Miss Rice about the Revolutionary War and The War of 1812.

Damn Redcoats.

[mack pl]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

absolutely :D
and Poland ? :lol: ;)

and Denmark....they sent submarine to Persian Gulf, and their parlament declared war to Iraq :lol: p-)

[weissent]

And btw, ask how many ppl in GB wanted another war in Iraq. I still didn't figure out what the US government promised Blair to keep him in line ... to strike France and Germany with nukes if time come, perhaps? rofl

[Oddbod]

A surprising number of people in the UK support the coalition in Iraq.
Remember that the media in both the UK & the US are congenitally left of centre politically, so their "truths" cannot be trusted.
Take CR's speech in context if she didn't mention other countries - the UK is the 2nd largest contingent & she was speaking for the benefit of UK politicians.

[CG51]

Britian is a damn good ally...

[Aussie E]

up the mighty diggers!

[DeathBeforeDishonor]

http://www.stencil-library.com/images/exclusives/flags.jpg


I'm very proud that we have a ally like the British woot woot

[RavenW]

I think Britain, Australia and Israel are the best and closest allies this country has got.

G-d bless America!

[-=TFN=-Karab]

I love Brits. Great people with a great country. woot

[Vance]

Someone needs to remind Miss Rice about the Revolutionary War and The War of 1812.

Damn Redcoats.
Yeah...those filthy lobsterbacks.

[EvanL]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.

[[LORD]]

yea i was gonna make the same comment and oh yea are we not also in afghanistan right now? hmm what were we doing there oh yea i dont remember... :bash:

[[AFSOC]]

]yea i was gonna make the same comment and oh yea are we not also in afghanistan right now? hmm what were we doing there oh yea i dont remember... :bash:



grrrrrrrreeeeeattt

why does it sound like that as Canadians that we have to padded on the back for everything.....

who cares if Canada isnt considered America's best friend....lots of Canadians dont even like America...so wtf...

shut up

[southpark2000]

All I know is that a dog is a man's best friend.... :D

No offence but i think Blair has been childed for being Bush's poodle for a while...or his butler...

Southpark
The Dude

what about saudi arabia??

[Ratman]

Friends don't let friends drink and drive.

[Abolith]

http://www.stencil-library.com/images/exclusives/flags.jpg


I'm very proud that we have a ally like the British woot woot


word...

British :hug: U.S.

Canada :hug: US

Poland :hug: US

even the damne aussies :hug: US
:D


I love most of our allies. most of them are decent people

[SHAM]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

[mack pl]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

I dont get it? What do you meant?
:oops:

[digrar]

We (Australia) got a free trade agreement out of our support, although I don't think it was a driving force behind the decision to be part of the coalition.

[wiking]

All I know is that a dog is a man's best friend.... :D

No offence but i think Blair has been childed for being Bush's poodle for a while...or his butler...

Southpark
The Dude

More like Bush's bitch p-)

[CG51]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.

it was a political decision bro...Canada rocks...

[Gyles84]

All I know is that a dog is a man's best friend.... :D

No offence but i think Blair has been childed for being Bush's poodle for a while...or his butler...

Southpark
The Dude

More like Bush's bitch p-)

*yawn*

We'll make sure to leave a post-it note next time we help depose third world tyrants. Im so sorry we've betrayed our Euro brethren yet again... :|

[szr]

Allies + Friends :hug: USA

AND DEATH TO OUR ENEMIES! Or is it, "DIPLOMACY TO OUR ENEMIES!"? I forget sometimes





Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

I dont get it? What do you meant?
:oops:He's jealous that he's not part of the cool coalition crew. ;)

[Novara]

What about the French?

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/100582.jpg

http://www.slycraft.com/surrender-2.jpg

[Gyles84]

Better find something non-combustable :P

[Ratman]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.

it was a political decision bro...Canada rocks...

Yes it is amazing that Canada isn't in Iraq - long live the democratic priciple of freedom of information. Yes, Canada does rock.

[Digital Marine]

So... our Dutch forces leave Iraq in 45 days and suddenly we're not ally enough to be worth mentioning? p-)

[Danzer]

So... our Dutch forces leave Iraq in 45 days and suddenly we're not ally enough to be worth mentioning? p-)

Well we can allways name them...

Henk, Kees..thx for your effort ;)

[Digital Marine]

So... our Dutch forces leave Iraq in 45 days and suddenly we're not ally enough to be worth mentioning? p-)

Well we can allways name them...

Henk, Kees..thx for your effort ;)

Grrrr p-) we have like 1200 troops there p-) good luck with naming them ;)

[Gyles84]

Thats alot for a country that size. Have you had any casualties yet?

Also, are there any good Dutch photos from Iraq to link to? :)

[Novara]

Italy has the highest number of troops after the US and Britain. I think they merit a mention.

[CG51]

Italy is a beutiful country too, i loved it... woot

Respects to Italy for their contribution...

[mack pl]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

I dont get it? What do you meant?
:oops:He's jealous that he's not part of the cool coalition crew. ;)

:lol: ahhh, ok p-)

[username]

Where is Australia ?

aahaahha I remeber when John Howard gave his speech to congress "You have no better friend".

[username]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

ahahahha that's ****ing gold. BEST POST EVER SHAM!!!!!!!! :D

[Graspol]

How nice! The U.S is sticking feathers up the Brits arses again :hug:
I think they should thank and appreciate all the coalition countries(big and small) that stuck their nose in the bees' nest Iraq ! :bash:

[blobox]

The women will visit Poland, too.
So I think that USA must think about all countries which help USA figth with terrorism. It's true.
USA know about it, although talk differently.

[Para]

I think you will find that she will say the same thing as she vist's all countries that are helping America. I sure that if America does not want our help we would happily leave if you requested it.

[Digital Marine]

Thats alot for a country that size. Have you had any casualties yet?

Also, are there any good Dutch photos from Iraq to link to? :)


Sure here is a huge thread i made:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=36603&start=0


Our country lost 2 of her soldiers... both died due to enemy action.

[kenshiroIT]

and what about Italy who has one of the largest contingent down there????????????????????????????????????

[Novara]

and what about Italy who has one of the largest contingent down there????????????????????????????????????

Read my previous post.

Italy has the third largest contingent after the US and Britain. I think they are third in KIA as well (20 Italians were killed in just one attack on a barracks).
Funnily enough, that attack caused the most casualties to the Italian army (in a single incident) since WW2. But instead of doing a Spain (running away), I spoke to a friend in Italy and the week after, thousands of people and soldiers were demanding to be sent to Iraq to avenge the deaths. woot

[blobox]

I think you will find that she will say the same thing as she vist's all countries that are helping America.


Yes.



I sure that if America does not want our help we would happily leave if you requested it.

I'm not sure, but in Future we show how will be true.

[AmericanImperialist]

Yes it is amazing that Canada isn't in Iraq - long live the democratic priciple of freedom of information. Yes, Canada does rock.
I'm pretty sure I know where you're going with this, but before I comment, please elaborate as to what you mean.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38152000/jpg/_38152160_george_michael_150a.jpg

rofl

[Weasel]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38152000/jpg/_38152160_george_michael_150a.jpg

rofl

I am missing Aznar in this picture. He was good for serving some drinks to Bush and Blair. ;)

[RavenW]

You know, there are so many different countries to mention that contributed in this joint effort of coalition:

Britain, Australia, Poland

There are troops of Italians and Dutch in Iraq

Ukraine gave more than a thousand of her sons to this joint effort

and yet still damn liberals dare to say 'where is coalition?'

Just because some French boys and Germans aren't on board does not mean it is not a joint effort of multi-force coalition.

I am not even speaking about Japanese or South Korean troops and money.

In other words, the world contributed a lot for Iraqi Liberation, but for liberals it is convinient to point that French boys refused to go to Iraq.

[SHAM]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38152000/jpg/_38152160_george_michael_150a.jpg

rofl

And those of the "coalition of the convenient" who werent praised as most favoured puppy are jealous of this?
Have you no ambition? Come on people :cantbeli:

[kenshiroIT]

the question is not, where are the french or the Germans....but, do we really need them?

[bloddyaxe]

WTF! Iceland is the best ally!
Certainly we are, they have told us many times...

[wiking]

The Germans and the French both have excellent professional armys, and with the manpower shortage of the US armed forces i dare say that any help would be needed.

[BlackRain]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.

Canda who?

The 'evil empire' is next door, youth say
Poll finds teens view some U.S. actions as global threat

June 27, 2004

Evil is a word usually reserved for serial killers, Austin Powers villains, and kids who tear the legs off baby spiders.

But, a new poll shows a significant number of young Canadians would use "evil" to describe their U.S. neighbours.

In a telephone poll of 500 teens aged 14 to 18, more than 40 per cent of respondents saw the U.S. as an evil global force. Among French-Canadians, that number jumped to 64 per cent.

Ontario proved the most conflicted on the issue; there, nearly one-fifth of youth were on the fence.

"Teens have taken (Ronald) Reagan's concept of the Soviet Union as an evil empire and turned it back on the U.S.," says Rudyard Griffiths, director of the Dominion Institute.

"Clearly, the anti-American sentiment isn't just something coming from 30-somethings or even 20-somethings."

Avnish Nanda, a 15-year-old from Edmonton, says he sees the American government as neither totally good nor totally bad.

"When George (W.) Bush came into power, he was a real force of evil, getting into a war people say was about oil," Avnish says. "But all over the world, America gives aid to countries whether they deserve it or not, and that's really good for people."

The poll was conducted at the end of March and has a 4.3-per-cent margin of error. It was commissioned by CanWest News Service and sponsored by the Dominion Institute and Navigator Ltd. to engage youth in the election and to give parents, teachers and politicians a look at where young people stand on key issues.

"Stephen Harper is saying we need to integrate more with the U.S.," says Avnish, a youth volunteer for the Liberal party. "Well, I don't see how that helps us increase our sovereignty as a nation."

Greg Lyle, a principal at Navigator Ltd. with a long history in politics, says the poll results suggest "the emotion we saw in the '88 campaign about our relationship with the Americans" still lingers in "a very major way."

Conflicting views on the role of the military were also revealed in the poll.

Although 51 per cent of teens want Canada to be known through its peacekeeping efforts, a majority -- 69 per cent -- wouldn't consider a career in the military.

In terms of this election, Mr. Lyle says the findings don't have huge domestic implications.

But they do foreshadow big things for future elections, particularly given the Conservatives' stance on military spending and defence.

"Stephen Harper and his colleagues are more likely to talk about peacemaking than peacekeeping, and that's somewhat out of step with young people," he says.

"Youth have a very, very strong desire to be seen as peacekeepers, so long as it doesn't mean they have to do the peacekeeping themselves."

Mr. Lyle calls the underlying trend chequebook activism -- showing commitment to a cause by throwing tax dollars at it, not by getting physically involved. And Mr. Griffiths believes it's a result of Canada's role as "the fireproof attic of North America" over the past 10 years.

"It's a pretty good time to be a young Canadian in terms of the opportunities, the general affluence of society, and the absence of a direct threat to the country," Mr. Griffiths says.

Federal Election 2004 - Decision Canada

[BlackRain]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

ahahahha that's f*** gold. BEST POST EVER SHAM!!!!!!!! :D


At least Poland had the balls to show up.

What will history say about the "Coalition of the Unwilling" who rather Saddam stay in power than be evicted by force. The Middle East is getting it's first taste of freedom and hopefully this will plant the seeds of peace. The Coaltion of the Unwilling opposed free elections, democracy, free speech for the Iraqi's. If I were you, I would not be so proud.

The new Iraqi government is already asking for its money back from the United Nations that was squandered by countries involved in Oil-For-Food. How long will it be before those who opposed the war on 'moral' grounds are exposed as being involved in avoiding the UN sactions and trading with Saddam?

[wiking]

What about when someone starts to bitch about the fact that Halliburton and other comapnys were just given contracts in Iraq without the contracts being put up for bid first.

[SHAM]

Where is Australia ?

and Poland p-)

Coalition of the convenient..be realistic p-)

ahahahha that's f*** gold. BEST POST EVER SHAM!!!!!!!! :D


At least Poland had the balls to show up.

What will history say about the "Coalition of the Unwilling" who rather Saddam stay in power than be evicted by force. The Middle East is getting it's first taste of freedom and hopefully this will plant the seeds of peace. The Coaltion of the Unwilling opposed free elections, democracy, free speech for the Iraqi's. If I were you, I would not be so proud.

The new Iraqi government is already asking for its money back from the United Nations that was squandered by countries involved in Oil-For-Food. How long will it be before those who opposed the war on 'moral' grounds are exposed as being involved in avoiding the UN sactions and trading with Saddam?


You can try spin it if u want, nobody wished saddam to stay in power, the issue was the lies war was started over.
If your happy to be lied to thats ure business, but please dont try spin it into some selfless war to free the opressed. "Coaltion of the unwilling" is a good description, unwilling to rewrite the history books to fit agendas. And certainly some would say that they had more balls to stand by there principles., than to be bought into some war to save face for those who wanted to bypass the UN.
And the impression given by those who were part of the "coalition of the convenient" is that even though the governments were for it (thanks to a nice brown envelope) the citizens bar americans were certainly not for it.
So spin away...the history is written.

[BlackRain]

What about when someone starts to bitch about the fact that Halliburton and other comapnys were just given contracts in Iraq without the contracts being put up for bid first.

What about Halliburton getting a "no bid" contract? Do you even have the remotest idea about what you are talking about?

I know it is hard not to rely totally on Michael Moore, but perhaps you should really do some research first!


The US Congress' auditing arm, the Government Accountability Office, found the company's no-bid work in Iraq was legal.


Daniel Carlson, a spokesman for the Army's Joint Munitions Command, said Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), had won a competitive bidding process in 2001 to provide a wide range of "contingency" services to the military in the event of the deployment of U.S. troops overseas. He said the contract, known as the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program, or LOGCAP, was designed to free uniformed personnel for combat duties and did not preclude deals with other contractors.

The only segment of the contract that was 'no-bid' was oil-restoration work on damanged Iraqi infrastructure.


The oil restoration work was given to KBR without competitive bidding through 10 separate work assignments called "task orders." The orders were issued under an existing contract between Halliburton and the U.S. military that was awarded competitively in December 2001.

While the Corps was authorized to spend up to $7 billion for the oil restoration work, the actual cost so far has been $2.5 billion. Halliburton is still working on the oil facilities, but it is now operating under a new, competitively awarded contract.

[wiking]

I wish people would start lo leave Michael Moore out of any critique of the US and the war in Iraq, it's getting bloody boring, not every body bases their posts on him alone.

But clearly i stand corrected.

[BlackRain]

You can try spin it if u want, nobody wished saddam to stay in power, the issue was the lies war was started over.
If your happy to be lied to thats ure business, but please dont try spin it into some selfless war to free the opressed. "Coaltion of the unwilling" is a good description, unwilling to rewrite the history books to fit agendas. And certainly some would say that they had more balls to stand by there principles., than to be bought into some war to save face for those who wanted to bypass the UN.
And the impression given by those who were part of the "coalition of the convenient" is that even though the governments were for it (thanks to a nice brown envelope) the citizens bar americans were certainly not for it.
So spin away...the history is written.

Time will tell if your correct.

But, you convientently neglected to mention that Iraq violated 17 United Nations resolutions and that the USA did not 'bypass' the UN.

The United Nations (not soley the USA) decided that Iraq was in breach of it's obligations.


"In resolution 1441 the security council determined that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of resolution 687, because it has not fully complied with its obligations to disarm under that resolution.

"The security council in resolution 1441 gave Iraq 'a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations' and warned Iraq of the 'serious consequences' if it did not."

"The security council also decided in resolution 1441 that, if Iraq failed at any time to comply with and co-operate fully in the implementation of resolution 1441, that would constitute a further material breach.

"It is plain that Iraq has failed so to comply and therefore Iraq was at the time of resolution 1441 and continues to be in material breach.

"Thus, the authority to use force under resolution 678 has revived and so continues today.

"Resolution 1441 would in terms have provided that a further decision of the security council to sanction force was required if that had been intended.

"Thus, all that resolution 1441 requires is reporting to and discussion by the security council of Iraq's failures, but not an express further decision to authorise force."

[SHAM]

You can try spin it if u want, nobody wished saddam to stay in power, the issue was the lies war was started over.
If your happy to be lied to thats ure business, but please dont try spin it into some selfless war to free the opressed. "Coaltion of the unwilling" is a good description, unwilling to rewrite the history books to fit agendas. And certainly some would say that they had more balls to stand by there principles., than to be bought into some war to save face for those who wanted to bypass the UN.
And the impression given by those who were part of the "coalition of the convenient" is that even though the governments were for it (thanks to a nice brown envelope) the citizens bar americans were certainly not for it.
So spin away...the history is written.

Time will tell if your correct.

But, you convientently neglected to mention that Iraq violated 17 United Nations resolutions and that the USA did not 'bypass' the UN.

The United Nations (not soley the USA) decided that Iraq was in breach of it's obligations.


"In resolution 1441 the security council determined that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of resolution 687, because it has not fully complied with its obligations to disarm under that resolution.

"The security council in resolution 1441 gave Iraq 'a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations' and warned Iraq of the 'serious consequences' if it did not."

"The security council also decided in resolution 1441 that, if Iraq failed at any time to comply with and co-operate fully in the implementation of resolution 1441, that would constitute a further material breach.

"It is plain that Iraq has failed so to comply and therefore Iraq was at the time of resolution 1441 and continues to be in material breach.

"Thus, the authority to use force under resolution 678 has revived and so continues today.

"Resolution 1441 would in terms have provided that a further decision of the security council to sanction force was required if that had been intended.

"Thus, all that resolution 1441 requires is reporting to and discussion by the security council of Iraq's failures, but not an express further decision to authorise force."

There was nothing convenient about me not mentioning the UN resolutions, i would be the first to agree that they shoulda kicked his ass long ago. But the reason we were all told the war was necessary was WMD and the drama that colin powel creaty at the security council with his ampule of salt and tonys dawgs telling us about the 45minute deployment of them. There was a whole lot of scare mongering going on and deception by those who had the moral high ground and lost it. Its just not befitting of those who are elected to lead..not mis-lead.
And as for countries who dont comply with Un resolutions there is i am sure one or two more out there who do likewise..where's the ultimatums and where is the invasion?

[hedgehog]

Check out Israel for violations of UN resolutions. Did anyone go to war with them...of course not.. so using it as an excuse for Iraq is hypocritical

[BlackRain]

Check out Israel for violations of UN resolutions. Did anyone go to war with them...of course not.. so using it as an excuse for Iraq is hypocritical

What is the difference between the two? The UN Security Council never authorized the use of force in regards to Israel, but they did against Iraq.

[BlackRain]

There was nothing convenient about me not mentioning the UN resolutions, i would be the first to agree that they shoulda kicked his ass long ago. But the reason we were all told the war was necessary was WMD and the drama that colin powel creaty at the security council with his ampule of salt and tonys dawgs telling us about the 45minute deployment of them. There was a whole lot of scare mongering going on and deception by those who had the moral high ground and lost it. Its just not befitting of those who are elected to lead..not mis-lead.
And as for countries who dont comply with Un resolutions there is i am sure one or two more out there who do likewise..where's the ultimatums and where is the invasion?

If acutally read the UN Resolutions and UN Security Council reports; the issue is not WND but Iraq's refusal to abide by the 17 UN Resolutions that brought about the use of force.

[EvanL]

Blackrain touches little french boys, just like his dad touched him

[SHAM]

There was nothing convenient about me not mentioning the UN resolutions, i would be the first to agree that they shoulda kicked his ass long ago. But the reason we were all told the war was necessary was WMD and the drama that colin powel creaty at the security council with his ampule of salt and tonys dawgs telling us about the 45minute deployment of them. There was a whole lot of scare mongering going on and deception by those who had the moral high ground and lost it. Its just not befitting of those who are elected to lead..not mis-lead.
And as for countries who dont comply with Un resolutions there is i am sure one or two more out there who do likewise..where's the ultimatums and where is the invasion?

If acutally read the UN Resolutions and UN Security Council reports; the issue is not WND but Iraq's refusal to abide by the 17 UN Resolutions that brought about the use of force.

Thats a new one on my i have to say, so whos next on the list of countries to invade due to them failing to implement UN resolutions?

[memphiz]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.
Well I thought Mexico was the US's greatest allie?
Bush or Powell made a statement liek that after those 4 Canadians were killed in Afghanistan.

[roland]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.
Well I thought Mexico was the US's greatest allie?
Bush or Powell made a statement liek that after those 4 Canadians were killed in Afghanistan.

No, Canada and Mexico were forced by France to vote against the USA in the UN :cantbeli:
Oh and don't forget Australia: they are the best allies after Britain, they have sent 400 soldiers in Iraq. All that ! rofl

[BlackRain]

Blackrain touches little french boys, just like his dad touched him

Your Ad Hominem attack means nothing to me and it reinforces my points. You have no valid ideas to counter my argument so you are Forced to rely upon personal attacks. Pretty much what we expected from your type.

[memphiz]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.
Well I thought Mexico was the US's greatest allie?
Bush or Powell made a statement liek that after those 4 Canadians were killed in Afghanistan.

No, Canada and Mexico were forced by France to vote against the USA in the UN :cantbeli:
Oh and don't forget Australia: they are the best allies after Britain, they have sent 400 soldiers in Iraq. All that ! rofl
We werent forced by France. Canada did not want to go in without the approval of the UN, and we didnt have the troop stength at the time either. We still helped out in the war effort, with naval security in the Persian Gulf, and RCMP in Jordan training Iraqi police.

[BlackRain]

There was nothing convenient about me not mentioning the UN resolutions, i would be the first to agree that they shoulda kicked his ass long ago. But the reason we were all told the war was necessary was WMD and the drama that colin powel creaty at the security council with his ampule of salt and tonys dawgs telling us about the 45minute deployment of them. There was a whole lot of scare mongering going on and deception by those who had the moral high ground and lost it. Its just not befitting of those who are elected to lead..not mis-lead.
And as for countries who dont comply with Un resolutions there is i am sure one or two more out there who do likewise..where's the ultimatums and where is the invasion?

If acutally read the UN Resolutions and UN Security Council reports; the issue is not WND but Iraq's refusal to abide by the 17 UN Resolutions that brought about the use of force.

Thats a new one on my i have to say, so whos next on the list of countries to invade due to them failing to implement UN resolutions?

Do yourself a favor and actually read the UN Security Council resolutions. The resolutions provided for the use of force. No other Security Council Resolution currently provides for the use of force against any other country.

Next.

[wiking]

Bitching about why the war was fought in hind sight is stupid, what did we see in the time leading up to the war.

We saw Bush&Company, Colin Powell in particular, huffing and puffing and throwing tamper tantrums like spoiled little richman's sons about the WMD's of Saddam, pointing to pictures of storage and manufacturing facilities, mobile production vehicles (fire trucks and water tanker as they turned out to be, if i'm not mistaking) and all the other monsters they saw under their bed.

And when the UN said no, they just went on with it anyway, like i said, spoiled littler richman's sons.

What they did was shout "wolf" and leed a band of armed sheepfarmers on a hunt to protect their stock.
And they've been pointing at Iran and N. Korea and shouting wolf to, wich clarifys their intentions very well to me.

(i hope you get the analgy in the whole "wolf-sheep farmer" stor)

[BlackRain]

Colin Powell in particular, huffing and puffing and throwing tamper tantrums like spoiled little richman's sons about the WMD's of Saddam

Do you know anything about Colin Powell? He is hardly a rich man's son. He was born to poor Jamaican immigrants and grew up in Harlem, New York -- not exactly a nice neighborhood. He is an great example of a self-made man.

Seriously, do you do drugs? Because your arguments are seriously devoid of facts and are bizzare.


Colin Luther Powell was born in Harlem in 1937. His parents were Jamaican immigrants who stressed the importance of education and personal achievement. Powell grew up in the South Bronx, where he graduated from high school without having formed any definite ambition or direction in life. He entered the City College of New York to study geology and it was there, by his own account, that he found his calling when he joined the Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC). He became commander of his unit's precision drill team and graduated in 1958 at the top of his ROTC class, with the rank of cadet colonel, the highest rank in the corps.

Powell was commissioned a second lieutenant in the United States Army, and was one of the 16,000 military advisors dispatched to South Vietnam by President Kennedy in 1962. In 1963, Lieutenant Powell was wounded by a punji-stick ****y trap while patrolling the Vietnamese border with Laos. He was awarded the Purple Heart, and later that year, the Bronze Star.

Powell served a second tour of duty in Vietnam in 1968-69. During this second tour he was injured in a helicopter crash. Despite his own injuries, he managed to rescue his comrades from the burning helicopter and was awarded the Soldier's Medal. In all, he has received 11 decorations, including the Legion of Merit.

[wiking]

I didn't say he was, i say he acted like one.
It was not supposed to be take literally, but more as a metaphore.

[szr]

Colin Powell in particular, huffing and puffing and throwing tamper tantrums like spoiled little richman's sons about the WMD's of Saddam, pointing to pictures of storage and manufacturing facilities, mobile production vehicles (fire trucks and water tanker as they turned out to be, if i'm not mistaking)You're mistaken on nearly every point as BlackRain has already begun to point out. The vehicles in question turned out to be mobile helium trucks. By normal people they could be used for atmospheric research but it was never made clear why Saddam had them. They weren't benign water tankers or fire trucks.

[roland]

its so amazing how Canada doesnt go to war in Iraq, but we go to war everywhere else with the states, not to mention were your largest trading partner, and neighbour, and even cultural twin, yet because we didnt go to war in Iraq you guys totally forgot about our sacrifices for you.
Well I thought Mexico was the US's greatest allie?
Bush or Powell made a statement liek that after those 4 Canadians were killed in Afghanistan.

No, Canada and Mexico were forced by France to vote against the USA in the UN :cantbeli:
Oh and don't forget Australia: they are the best allies after Britain, they have sent 400 soldiers in Iraq. All that ! rofl
We werent forced by France. Canada did not want to go in without the approval of the UN, and we didnt have the troop stength at the time either. We still helped out in the war effort, with naval security in the Persian Gulf, and RCMP in Jordan training Iraqi police.

I was jocking. Of course France didn't force Canada and Mexico ! Even if we wanted, we are far far to have that power. I just wanted to ridiculize the American propaganda that pretend that there problems in the UN are French fault while there two neighbours voted against them.
Now I see all the brainwashed morons explaining us we had allucinations, that Bush didn't asked Powell to lie to the world. Pathetic. The sad thing is that repeat a crap often enough and in one year Mr Joe is going to believe it.
Now lets say I feel sorry for Mr Powell. He was a great and loyal soldier and his mission in the UN was his worse one. That broke him. This man didn't deserved such a treatment. That's not the first time Bush and his bunch of neoconnards abuse loyalty. Britain should take notice.

[M1A2U2]

If acutally read the UN Resolutions and UN Security Council reports; the issue is not WND but Iraq's refusal to abide by the 17 UN Resolutions that brought about the use of force.

Blackrain is right...THe night of the attack the US gov't said we were acting under Iraq's violation of UN SR 1441 nothing more. You all should stop crying about other reasons u hear the US give cuz we made it very clear on the night of the attack why we were doing it under international law.


And when the UN said no, they just went on with it anyway, like i said, spoiled littler richman's sons.
As blackrain said you must be on drugs. would you like to point out to the rest of us where the UN "said no"

[M1A2U2]

PS i believe South Korea now has the third most amt of troops...correct me if im wrong. Also is there any chance the dutch might stay?

[GhostBear]

'No better friend' to US than Britain: Rice


LONDON (AFP) - The United States has "no better friend... no better ally" than Britain, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said

Im proud that our country falls into the category of close ally to America. Theres no other country id rather say the same about. :) :hug:

[M1A2U2]

Will the dutch stay?

[Vintendo]

I think this is the first time in history that Germany refused to invade another country. :lol: That's what happens when you start hanging out with France. :lol:

[M1A2U2]

well put

[ZeroPositive]

hum we have huge anti war rallies... but saying that the UK is quite divided over this...

[BlackFlag]

I think this is the first time in history that Germany refused to invade another country. :lol: That's what happens when you start hanging out with France. :lol:lol...i hope the germans on this forum dont take offence..but that was funny

[Novara]

PS i believe South Korea now has the third most amt of troops...correct me if im wrong. Also is there any chance the dutch might stay?

Italy has the third most amount of troops in the region of 5,000.

[Bluezoo]

I think this is the first time in history that Germany refused to invade another country. :lol: That's what happens when you start hanging out with France. :lol:lol...i hope the germans on this forum dont take offence..but that was funny

x2 rofl

[Graspol]

Will the dutch stay?


No. We will be out in March.
Sorry about that mates. :petting:

[IamWhatIam]

I think this is the first time in history that Germany refused to invade another country. :lol: That's what happens when you start hanging out with France. :lol:lol...i hope the germans on this forum dont take offence..but that was funny

x2 rofl

x3 rofl