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Anyone got any good pics of HAHO jumps?
Double Tap
02-05-2005, 04:06 PM
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MARINO
02-05-2005, 04:54 PM
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M1A2U2
02-05-2005, 06:38 PM
You mean HALO?
EvanL
02-05-2005, 06:39 PM
You mean HALO?
HAHO is high altitude high opening
superpeltor
02-05-2005, 07:49 PM
HAHO jumps, where chutes are deployed just a few seconds after the jump and SEALs form a "stack" to stay together, keep the SEALs in a tight group when they land. This is a difficult maneuver that requires a lot of training as a team. The lowest man in the formation uses a compass and landmarks to steer them to their destination.
from http://science.howstuffworks.com/navy-seal15.htm
fatsack
02-05-2005, 09:10 PM
"Rogue Warrior" by Richard Marcinko has some great info about HAHO jumps-the first chapter is a story about how he almost died doing it
great book. if you're intrested-
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671795937/qid=1107655401/sr=8-6/ref=pd_bbs_6/002-4780203-6646418?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Ratamacue
02-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Click to enlarge.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/10041b68eca8af1985256eec0045fb2d/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-003HAHOLR.jpg (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/10041b68eca8af1985256eec0045fb2d/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-003HAHO.jpg)
A group of pathfinders from 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, rush around to prepare their packs and parachutes for a high altitude parachute drop from a Marine KC-130 Hercules cargo plane. The pathfinders became the first Marines to perform a high altitude high opening jump in a combat zone July 23 at a drop zone in western Iraq. The pathfinders' mission was to mark a DZ for a group of recon Marines who were dropped at a low altitude by two CH-46E Sea Knights.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/c31170114262cc7485256eec00458bb0/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-002HAHOLR.jpg (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/c31170114262cc7485256eec00458bb0/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-002HAHO.jpg)
1st Sgt. John K. Bell, Alpha Company 1st Sgt., 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, adjusts a parachute for Gunnery Sgt. Brandon L. Desilet, assistant radio operator, 1st Recon Bn. at Al Taqaddum, Iraq, July 23. The two recon Marines acted as pathfinders by jumping at a high altitude into a drop zone and marking another DZ for a separate group of recon Marines who were dropped from two CH-46E Sea Knight helicopters. The whole evolution was a team effort by the recon Marines and aviation assets from Marine Aircraft Group 16, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/522f627479f40a4985256eec00450e7a/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-001HAHOLR.jpg (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/522f627479f40a4985256eec00450e7a/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-001HAHO.jpg)
The sun sets on a KC-130 Hercules from Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadrons 234 and 352 at the airstrip at Al Taqaddum, Iraq, July 23. The two sister squadrons work together as one while operating in Iraq. The squadrons participated later in the evening in a chapter of history by airdropping the first high altitude, high opening parachute jump into a combat zone in Marine Corps history.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/db8286e299b5dc8f85256eec00465412/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-004HAHOLR.jpg (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/db8286e299b5dc8f85256eec00465412/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-004HAHO.jpg)
Master Sgt. Todd Smalenberg (left), primary jumpmaster, and 1st Sgt. John K. Bell, assistant team leader, sit in the back of a Marine KC-130 Hercules cargo plane from Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadrons 234 and 352. The two Marines are from 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division. The two Marines were part of a pathfinder team that performed the first high altitude high opening jump into a combat zone in Marine Corps history.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/2609d23b5163f07785256eec0046e77c/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-005HAHOLR.jpg (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/2609d23b5163f07785256eec0046e77c/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-005HAHO.jpg)
Master Sgt. Todd Smalenberg, primary jumpmaster, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, observes the late-night view of western Iraq from the back of the KC-130 Hercules. The 39-year-old jumpmaster from Oscoda, Mich., and other recon Marines jumped from the cargo plane and into history July 23 for the first high altitude high opening parachute drop into a combat zone for the Marine Corps.
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/5f62dda8d0d59ca885256eec0044b342/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-006HAHOLR.jpg (http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/5f62dda8d0d59ca885256eec0044b342/$FILE/040723-M-9245L-006HAHO.jpg)
A series of night vision images shows the exit of a group of pathfinder Marines from 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, jumping from a KC-130 Hercules cargo plane into the night sky in western Iraq July 23. The group of Marines performed the historic first high altitude high opening parachute drop into a combat zone for the Marine Corps. (Photo illustration by Sgt. Nathan K. LaForte)
Rishon
02-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Sweet pics.
Deuterium
02-05-2005, 11:55 PM
If he has his hands on the brakes it's not on a HAHO jump (unless the guy screwed up). After you jump you deploy your chute at a much higher altitude than the normal pull altitude which is around 3500-4000' AGL. You steer your chute pulling on the risers instead of the brakes. They are left in the stowed position. In the stowed position the chute is in its best glide configuration. Unstowing the brakes makes the chute drop like a rock and you'll leave your fellow jumpers far above you. Many people steer with their feet. Pointing your foot downward will cause the chute to turn slightly. Many times this is all you need. The lowest man, we try to make him the most experienced, steers the stack as stated above. HAHO jumps are boring, extremely cold, cause parts of your body to fall asleep, and ALWAYS made me think about my leg straps, those two small pieces of nylon that hold you in the harness. For the jumpmaster, HAHO jumps provide the biggest challenges for planning the release point(where you jump). Winds at altitude, 20,000 and above can many times be well above 100MPH. Running with the wind can give you a groundspeed of 120MPH, kinda cool to see on the GPS. As you descend in altitude the winds can shift 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Personally the farthest I've ever gone on a HAHO was 22 miles.
HooyahCQB
02-06-2005, 12:07 AM
What they said ^ :lol:
easyand
02-06-2005, 07:40 AM
GIS in HAHO
http://www.corriere.it/speciali/gallerie/2004/novembre/gis/galleria/jpg/image4.jpg
http://www.corriere.it/speciali/gallerie/2004/novembre/gis/galleria/jpg/image5.jpg
Ratman
02-06-2005, 08:35 AM
Thanks to you all for the interesting pictures and explanations. Interesting topic.
abncougar
02-06-2005, 01:34 PM
HAHO jumps, where chutes are deployed just a few seconds after the jump and SEALs form a "stack" to stay together, keep the SEALs in a tight group when they land. This is a difficult maneuver that requires a lot of training as a team. The lowest man in the formation uses a compass and landmarks to steer them to their destination.
from http://science.howstuffworks.com/navy-seal15.htm
from www.howstuffworks.com, very credible website!!! one of my ROTC instructors is a MSGT, 18D (SF medic), HALO master wings, and i was talking to him about the school and he described his HALO and HAHO experiences and said that you are supposed to stay away from your team and there are very strict rules about that to prevent accidents, unless you are a golden knight, but even accidents happen to them....
Just out of curiosity, have any of you guys seen the "HALO Freefall Warriors" on the Wings or Military Channel?
Fallosophy
02-06-2005, 03:35 PM
Deuterium, I am not in the military nor do I know anything of the danger and risk you put yourself through.
having said that, I am a civilian jumper and on one particular jump i opened very high ( around 6k) as it was early on in my trainign and i wanted to make sure I had a good landing pattern. Well by the time I got to 1k , my legs were completely asleep :D from the leg straps! Good thing I learned to PLF before anything else ;)
khukuri
02-06-2005, 07:20 PM
If he has his hands on the brakes it's not on a HAHO jump (unless the guy screwed up). After you jump you deploy your chute at a much higher altitude than the normal pull altitude which is around 3500-4000' AGL. You steer your chute pulling on the risers instead of the brakes. They are left in the stowed position. In the stowed position the chute is in its best glide configuration. Unstowing the brakes makes the chute drop like a rock and you'll leave your fellow jumpers far above you. Many people steer with their feet. Pointing your foot downward will cause the chute to turn slightly. Many times this is all you need. The lowest man, we try to make him the most experienced, steers the stack as stated above. HAHO jumps are boring, extremely cold, cause parts of your body to fall asleep, and ALWAYS made me think about my leg straps, those two small pieces of nylon that hold you in the harness. For the jumpmaster, HAHO jumps provide the biggest challenges for planning the release point(where you jump). Winds at altitude, 20,000 and above can many times be well above 100MPH. Running with the wind can give you a groundspeed of 120MPH, kinda cool to see on the GPS. As you descend in altitude the winds can shift 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Personally the farthest I've ever gone on a HAHO was 22 miles.
Hi deut, how long time are we talking about being up up up freezing high wind e.t.c Do you use the same parachute or do you have another special cind. What altitudes are we talking about? do they give you oxygen thing?
<img src=http://img147.exs.cx/img147/4130/halo01gr7rj.th.jpg>
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khukuri
02-07-2005, 11:57 AM
Deuterium, I am not in the military nor do I know anything of the danger and risk you put yourself through.
having said that, I am a civilian jumper and on one particular jump i opened very high ( around 6k) as it was early on in my trainign and i wanted to make sure I had a good landing pattern. Well by the time I got to 1k , my legs were completely asleep :D from the leg straps! Good thing I learned to PLF before anything else ;)
Hi.-- I jump aswell and I really wanna try to do something above than the usual 4k. In sweden were I live I havent found any clubs giving that opportunity. How is it in other countries. Can I do such jumps with an A license or do I need to qualify for further costy stuff?
regards
Fallosophy
02-07-2005, 01:06 PM
Do you mean open above 4k? if so, I was the last out on my load so I just sort of did it. At the time I did not have my A but was still on student status.
spyguy
02-07-2005, 01:07 PM
I saw the special a long time ago, I'm sure it will air soon on the Military channel because i think it was a Discovery channel special. Did you want to know anything about it ?
Btw, to everyone out there, I heard there was an Airborne Class that had a girl die when her hands got tangled in some chords, anyway i heard after the accident the entire class (300+) quit. It's probably just some rumor but I was wondering if anyone heard about it?
SG
edit for spelling check
johnnysix
02-07-2005, 02:24 PM
a girl did die here 2 weeks ago at fryar. she had a cigarette roll chute malfunction, where the chute is tangled in the suspension lines. for some reason she didnt deploy her reserve (investigation is still pending), and she fell sadly. her entire class did not quit, everyone resumed jumping as soon as range control deemed the rigger facility and remaining chutes safe. the class was suspended for a few days for the initial investigation though. i dont know her name, unit, or rank.
Vertigo
02-07-2005, 03:47 PM
http://www.eads.net/xml/content/OF00000000400003/2/19/32267192.jpg
German Soldier with Parafinder/Paralander
German state-of-art technology
http://www.eads.net/frame/lang/en/1024/content/OF00000000400004/5/21/33624215.html
Video
http://www.eads.net/xml/content/OF00000000400003/2/77/32367772.asx
fantassin
02-07-2005, 04:44 PM
http://brikolo.free.fr/images/Pagaine.jpg
French Army HAHO jumper
http://brikolo.free.fr/images/Paragain.jpg
French Army HAHO jumper
http://brikolo.free.fr/images/Chute%20ops-13.jpg
Jumping from a Transall
http://brikolo.free.fr/images/D1005e1b.jpg
Over the South West of France
khukuri
02-07-2005, 05:28 PM
Great stuff fantassin. Really interesting to see that equipment.
fantassin
02-08-2005, 11:39 AM
Actually, these pics are pretty old and a lot of kit has changed since.
There are currently some projects in the EU to try and "federalize" airborne training around the French, German and British airborne schools.
That could be a good, cost effective solution.
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