Today's Pic's. Nov. 3

[He219]

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A crane lifts debris of a U.S. Chinook helicopter, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003 west of Baghdad, near Fallujah. The helicopter carrying dozens of soldiers on their way home for leave, was struck by a missile and crashed west of Baghdad, near Fallujah, on Sunday. Sixteen soldiers were killed in the incident and 20 others were wounded. (AP Photo/Khaled Mohammed)

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U.S. Air force medical personnel assist wounded U.S. soldiers walking out of a C-17 transport aircraft at Ramstein air base in southwestern Germany, November 3, 2003. The soldiers were injured when a U.S. Chinook helicopter was shot down near Falluja in central Iraq on Sunday. 16 soldiers were killed in the incident and 21 were wounded, according to a U.S. spokesman. *******/KaiPfaffenbach


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U.S. Air force medical personnel carry a stretcher with a wounded U.S. soldier out of a C-17 aircraft and lift him into an ambulance bus at Ramstein air base in southwestern Germany, November 3, 2003.


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Peter Ellis, of Heywood, Lancashire, patrols through a market in Basra, in southern Iraq Monday, Oct. 27, 2003. Six months after the war ended, southern Iraq's largest city is enjoying a relative peace that still eludes the violence-stricken central region of Baghdad. (AP Photo/Greg Baker)

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Sgt. Richard Catterall from Liverpool, England, with the One King's Regiment, visits a school in the center of Basra, southern Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003.

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An Iraqi woman walks past as British soldiers check a car at a checkpoint in Basra, in southern Iraq, Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003.

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An Iraqi boy cycles past a burned out U.S. military vehicle on the outskirts of Baghdad, Monday Nov. 3, 2003. The vehicle was attacked Sunday evening by a rocket, Iraqi police said. They were no reports on casualities. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

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US Army soldiers of the 1st Armoured Division, C Company stop cars at a checkpoint east of Baghdad Monday, Nov. 3, 2003 a day after gunners brought down a U.S. Army Chinook helicopter, killing 16 and wounding 20 others. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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An Iraqi worker builds a fence on a wall surrounding the Iraqi Ministry of Culture, patrolled by a US tank of the 1st Armoured Division, A Company, in Baghdad Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. (AP Photo/Pier Paolo Cito)

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A British soldier secures the scene as Iraqi policemen demonstrate in the center of Basra, southern Iraq, demanding their salary be paid, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

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Iraqi policemen demonstrate in the center of Basra, southern Iraq, demanding their salary be paid, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

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British soldiers guard the area where Iraqi policemen demonstrate in the center of Basra, southern Iraq, demanding their salary be paid, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabil Aljurani)

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Soldiers of U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division (Task Force Ironhorse) carry their weapons as they man a checkpoint on a road outside Tikrit, 110 miles north of Baghdad, November 3, 2003. U.S. troops are setting up check points outside Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tirkrit searching vehicles for weapons that could be used against occupation forces after eighteen Americans died in guerrilla attacks in Iraq Sunday, including 15 soldiers killed when insurgents shot down their Chinook helicopter near the town of Falluja *******/Damir Sagolj


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A soldier of U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division (Task Force Ironhorse) holds a machine gun at a checkpoint on a road outside Tikrit, 110 miles north of Baghdad, November 3, 2003.

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The 31st Marine expeditionary unit personnel Pfc. Jason Lamping from Indiana does some painting at a school in Liquisa, East Timor, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003.

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Unidentified U.S. Marines from the 31st Marine expeditionary unit repair a local school in Liquisa, East Timor, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. Around 100 Marine personnel and sailors are put on volunteer work to give medical assistance and engineering for the civil action project as part of their humanitarian effort to maintain community relation. (AP Photo/Firdia Lisnawati)

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U.S. Marines wash a CH-53 transport helicopter before the upcoming "Talon Vision" joint U.S.-Philippines ground-air exercises, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003, at former U.S. Air Force's Clark Air base, 100 kms. (62 miles) north of Manila, Philippines. The purpose of the exercise is to conduct bilateral security training between both the U.S. and the Philippine military. Approximately 900 U.S. Marines and Navy servicemen from Okinawa, Japan will participate in the 15-day exercise. (AP Photo/Wally Santana)

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U.S. Marines clean their machine guns before upcoming joint military exercises, in Clark Air Base, north of Manila, November 3, 2003. Approximately 500 Marines and sailors from Okinawa, Japan, arrived last Thursday to conduct bilateral training between the Philippine and the U.S. *******/Romeo Ranoco

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Spanish police guard the border with Gibraltar, November 3, 2003. The cruise ship Aurora, with hundreds of British tourists onboard who have suffered from a 24-hour infection, arrived in Gibraltar's harbor on Monday morning after Spain shut its border with the tiny British colony for the first time in two decades. *******/Marcelo del Pozo

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Two men look at the British-owned Cruise ship Aurora after it docked in the British colony of Gibraltar, off southern Spain, Monday Nov. 3, 2003. Spanish authorities closed the border with Gibraltar on Monday after the arrival of Aurora, a virus-stricken cruise ship carrying some 2,000 passengers. (AP Photo/R. Perales)

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A police officer of the bomb squad division aproaches a VW beetle after they exploded a hand grenade underneath the car outside of a police station in the southern part of Sao Paulo, Brazil on Monday Nov. 3, 2003. Police exploded the grenade that was found in the early morning hours. Unknown assailants sprayed machine gun fire at several police stations throughout Brazil's largest city in a wave of weekend attacks that left two officers dead and seven wounded. (AP Photo/Alexandre Meneghini)

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People take cover as a granade is detonated underneath a VW beetle outside of a police station in the southern part of Sao Paulo, Brazil on Monday Nov. 3, 2003. Police exploded the grenade that was found in the early morning hours.

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Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, second from left, walks with Chinese President Hu Jintao, left, during a welcome ceremony at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China, Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. Musharraf traveled to Beijing on Monday looking to strengthen an already healthy relationship between his South Asian country and longtime ally China. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan)

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Russian President Vladimir Putin pins "The Order of Courage" on Andrei Yermolenko (R), commander of the Rostov military mine-rescuing unit, during a ceremony in Moscow's Kremlin, November 3, 2003. Sixteen rescuers and miners received state awards for their courage and bravery during last month's rescue operation in the Zapadnaya coal mine in the town of Novoshakhtinsk, Rostov. *******/Alexander Nemenov/POOL


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30 Oct 03,Kabul, Afghanistan
Major General Andrew Leslie, Deputy Commander International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) sits in a Light Armoured Vehicle ( LAV lll ), prior to departing Camp Julien for a tour of the Canadian area of operations in Kabul, Afghanistan.

[Seoulstriker]

thanks for the great pics! woot woot

[NcDeuce]

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:| RIP

[Argyll]

Looking at that wreckage,I'm very surprised there were any survivors at all !!

[He219]

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Israeli Border Police patrol along the concrete barrier separating the West Bank village of Abu Dis from East Jerusalem Monday, Nov. 3, 2003.

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Israeli soldiers try to secure the area where a Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up November 3, 2003 in the West Bank village of Azun. The teenage bomber, who was from Nabulus, blew himself up near Israeli troops, wounding one of them and killing himself. (***** Images)...

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Early Monday, Oct. 20, 2003, Palestinian ambushers shot three Israeli members of the crack Duchifat unit on their nightly foot patrol at the Palestinian village of Ain Yabrud near Ofra in the Ramallah district of the West Bank. The attack was characterized by precise intelligence and split-second timing that could only have been achieved by several weeks of advance surveillance of their victims’ routines. DEBKAfile

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European Union citizens ranked (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aaHoCV7579ko&refer=europe) Israel as the most likely threat to world peace, with the US, Iran andNorth Korea tied for second, in an opinion poll sponsored by theEU´s executive arm. Some 59 percent of 7,515 respondents said Israel was athreat to peace, in the poll released by the European Commissionin Brussels. (***** Images)...

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BAGHDAD, Nov. 2 — Saddam Hussein refused to order a counterattack against U.S. troops when war erupted in March because he misjudged the initial ground thrust as a ruse and had been convinced (http://www.msnbc.com/news/988314.asp?0sl=-31) earlier by Russian and French contacts that he could avoid or survive a land invasion, former Iraqi deputy prime minister Tariq Aziz has told interrogators, according to U.S. officials.

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German Defense Minister Peter Struck, left, congratulates NATO Secretary General, Lord Robertson, after awarding him the ' Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany' in Berlin on Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. Robertson, NATO's outgoing leader urged U.S. and European defense officials to put aside differences that arose over the war in Iraq as they transform the alliance to meet new threats. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)

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German U.N. Ambassador Gunter Pleuger, right, speaks at a news conference alongside Herat deputy governor Haji Mir Abdul Khaleq in Herat, Afghanistan on Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. Ambassadors from the U.N. Security Council are visiting Afghanistan to stress the international community's continued interest in Afghanistan reconstruction and support of President Hamid Karzai's government. (AP Photo/Amir Shah)

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National Police cadets march during celebrations of the Centennial of Panama's independence from Colombia in Panama City, Panama Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. Panama celebrates 100 years of independence from Colombia Monday. (AP Photo/Arnulfo Franco)

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Special forces soldiers march during ceremonies for the centennial of Panama's independence from Colombia in Panama City, Panama Monday, Nov. 3, 2003. (AP Photo/Arnulfo Franco)

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[IDFM203]

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These are actually old pictures.(they were taken a while back)

Nice pics anyways.

I especially like the first one (I am sure you can figure out why based on my screen name and avator ;) )

Shalom :D

[He219]

Yeah, I found them with the story of the October ambush of the Duchifat guys. The Second picture earlier, from today, shows IDF guys in civies and armor; quite interesting.

Say, the barrel of that M4/203 has what appears to be gas ports or some sort of shroud, what is it....

Thanks.

:D

[fred_engles]

The Second picture earlier, from today, shows IDF guys in civies and armor; quite interesting.My guess is that those aren't soldiers at all (despite the caption), but the security team for that settlement.

[IDFM203]

Yeah, I found them with the story of the October ambush of the Duchifat guys. The Second picture earlier, from today, shows IDF guys in civies and armor; quite interesting.

Say, the barrel of that M4/203 has what appears to be gas ports or some sort of shroud, what is it....

Thanks.

:D
Yeah, the pictures were with the story of the October ambush of the Duchifat guys. not to nit pick here but those pics go back way before October.


The Second picture earlier, from today, shows IDF guys in civies and armor; quite interesting. yeah those aren’t regular infantry soldier per say. Their more like investigators who have to put on bullet proof jackets and helmets for their work is in a very dangerous area.

Plus a few of them could also be some undercover operators as well.



Say, the barrel of that M4/203 has what appears to be gas ports or some sort of shroud, what is it.... well first of all, that’s a CAR15/M203 and not a M4 version of it. The Israeli army has a lot of M4’s now but that picture is not one of them.

Secondly yes that is a sort of shroud (if I understand the English term correctly) for this weapon. I didn’t realise that this is only on Israeli versions of this weapon. Is that true??



Shalom :D

[Golani68]

well
tan vests and 11.5 inch flattop M4
I would say they are more that just a settlement security
any some unit use this stuff

[One?]

well
tan vests and 11.5 inch flattop M4
I would say they are more that just a settlement security
any some unit use this stuff

you missed the RIS on that M4 while most SF units use the M33 handguard (with the discrete rail) althought I could be wrong.

[Mo]

what are those camo "headnets" the idf soldiers wear sometimes?

[IDFM203]

what are those camo "headnets" the idf soldiers wear sometimes? its a camouflage webbing that distorts the round shape of the helmet.

It’s called in Hebrew “mitsnefet” which actually means in English clown hat (but hey it works :D )

The helmet has a distinctive round shape which can expose your position in the field, so this webbing cover helps in distorting its shape and helping to blend you in more into the field.

(My avatar pic is better example of the use of this cover)

Shalom :D

[One?]

IDF does "mitznefet" mean clown had in hebrew?

and whose idea was it?

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3 Nov 03
Kabul, Afghanistan

Warrant Officer Wayne Kennie, of the Third Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment Battalion Group ( 3 RCR BG ), instructs members of the Afghan National Army ( ANA ), in map and compass usage, in Kabul, Afghanistan. 3 RCR BG, from CFB Petawawa, Ontario, is assisting in training various elements of the ANA during Operation ATHENA.

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3 Nov 03
Kabul, Afghanistan

Master Bombardier Kirk Parlee, of 2 Royal Canadian Horse Artillery (2 RCHA), from CFB Petawawa, instructs a group of soldiers from the Afghan National Army ( ANA ), in the set-up and operation of an 82 mm mortar, in Kabul, Afghanistan. Members of the Canadian Forces are assisting in training various elements of the ANA during Operation ATHENA.

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3 Nov 03
Kabul, Afghanistan

Master Warrant Officer Nelson Lizotte, of 2 Royal Canadian Horse Artillery,CFB Petawawa, instructs a group of soldiers from the Afghan National Army ( ANA ) in the set-up and operation of the 82mm mortar, in Kabul, Afghanistan. Members of the Canadian Forces are assisting in training various elements of the ANA during Operation ATHENA.

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US Congress voted its final approval today for $US87.5 billion ($A124.07 billion) for US military operations and aid in Iraq and Afghanistan, a day after Americans in Iraq endured their worst casualties since March. The Senate handed a legislative victory to President George Bush approving the bill on a voice vote, sidestepping the roll call that usually accompanies major legislation(US Army)

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U.S. Army First Lt. Pilot Brian Slavenas is shown in front of a Chinook helicopter in this undated family photo. Lt. Slavenas was the pilot of the U.S. Army Chinook helicopter that was shot down in Falluja, Iraq (news - web sites), November 2, 2003, in which Slavenas and 15 others perished. Slavenas' father, Ronald, said his son 'was friendly, modest, decent, honest, reliable, a very ethical person.' NO SALES *******/HO


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031101-N-2838C-501 Aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) Nov 1, 2003 -- Chief Aviation Boatswain’s Mate Wilson Theodore directs an F-14, assigned to the "Grim Reapers" of Fighter Squadron One Zero One (VF-101), into position on the flight deck aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71). The nuclear powered aircraft carrier is conducting carrier qualifications in the Atlantic Ocean. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate Airman Michael D. Cole. (RELEASED)


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031031-N-5376G-007 Pearl Harbor, Hawaii (Oct. 31, 2003) -- Crewmembers aboard USS Pasadena (SSN 752) scan the pier for family and friends as the fast attack submarine returns to its homeport of Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, following an eight-month deployment to the Western Pacific. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Benjamin D. Glass. (RELEASED)

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031027-N-2385R-004 Western Pacific Ocean (Oct. 27, 2003) -- Crewmembers aboard USS Nimitz (CVN 68) and embarked Carrier Air Wing Eleven (CVW-11), man the rails while passing by the USS Missouri (BB 63) upon entering Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group and Carrier Air Wing Eleven (CVW-11) are deployed to the Western Pacific. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 3rd Class Yesenia Rosas. (RELEASED)

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031027-N-2385R-001 Western Pacific Ocean (Oct. 27, 2003) -- An SH-60B Seahawk assigned to the “Indians” of Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron Six (HS-6), passes by the USS Arizona Memorial while entering Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group and Carrier Air Wing Eleven (CVW-11) are deployed to the Western Pacific. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 3rd Class Yesenia Rosas. (RELEASED)

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031102-N-9769P-167 Pacific Ocean (Nov. 2, 2003) -- Aviation Warfare Systems Operator 2nd Class Rusty Dewoody, from Cleveland, Ohio, inventories .50-caliber machine gun rounds in preparation for a live fire exercise. Petty Officer Dewoody is assigned to the "Black Knights" of Helicopter Anti-Submarine Squadron Four (HS-4) at sea with USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) and Carrier Air Wing Fourteen (CVW-14) conducting Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX) in preparation for an upcoming deployment. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Jayme Pastoric. (RELEASED)

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031101-N-8955H-003 At sea aboard USS Blue Ridge (LCC 19) Nov. 1, 2003 -- Marine Lance Cpl. Mike Anderson, from Modesto, Calif., closely watches vessels in Hong Kong harbor as USS Blue Ridge (LCC 19) departs following a four-day port call. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer’s Mate 1st Class Novia E. Harrington. (RELEASED)

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031101-N-7732W-257 Pacific Ocean (Nov. 1, 2003) -- Cmdr. Richard LaBranche, from New Boston, N.H., exits the cockpit of an F-14D Tomcat assigned to the "Tomcatters" of Fighter Squadron Three One (VF-31) on the flight deck aboard USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74). Stennis and Carrier Air Wing Fourteen (CVW-14) are at sea conducting Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX) in preparation for an upcoming deployment. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Charles D. Whetstine. (RELEASED)

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031101-N-4336G-017 Pacific Ocean (Nov. 1, 2003) -- An F/A-18E Super Hornet, assigned to the "Eagles" of Strike Fighter Squadron One One Five (VFA-115), takes off from the flight deck of USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74). Stennis and Carrier Air Wing Fourteen (CVW-14) are at sea conducting Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX) in preparation for an upcoming deployment. U.S. Navy photo by Airman Jeanine A. Garcia. (RELEASED)

[IDFM203]

IDF does "mitznefet" mean clown had in hebrew? well in modern hebrew and slang it does mean that.

and whose idea was it? well I think it came from egoz in golani but I am not so sure about that. but from what I have been told, it originated from somewhere in golani.

shalom :D