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Matt
03-24-2003, 05:30 PM
What does the USMC use for an APC ??
Nelson
03-24-2003, 05:47 PM
They use the LAV and the AAV.

Here is the LAV: http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_lav.php3

Here is the AAV: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/aavp7a1.htm

Both of these are amphibious.
FAST*MARINE*
03-24-2003, 06:42 PM
Alot of fine marines are dead, because of old outdated equipment. the piece of **** CH-46(crashed and killed, not only US MARINES, but some brits to). I pray every time I go up in one. and the old ass AAV, it's armor (aluminum) cant even stop heavy machinegun fire, let alone RPG's, that turned two of them into burning death traps! If I was over there I would have my squad, riding on the top of them, like back in the Nam, thats a shame! We deserve better!

Fix the osprey, or move on to something else, and get the AAAV in service!

OH YEA, and F**k collateral damage, when it is costing U.S. lives.
Lobo
03-24-2003, 07:04 PM
One AAV was hit by a RPG grenade. All the Marines insided died. In a Spanish forum, a Spanish marine told that it was seen in TV.
Matt
03-24-2003, 07:37 PM
well thats ****ing gay damn goverment it should fund the USMC much better ( i think )
Lobo
03-24-2003, 07:43 PM
The problem with AAVs is that they are just too big and that make them good targets for antitank weapons. They are superb at amphibious assault, but they don't should be used as is they were Bradleys.
cut
03-25-2003, 05:01 AM
one the up side though I reckon the AAVs look a whole lot scarier to iraqis because they are bigger but also darker. And iraqis don't know that it's armour is weaker.

having said that the AAAV looks sweet.
BiZ
04-02-2003, 06:26 AM
And iraqis don't know that it's armour is weaker

The first rule of combat is that you "assume" (although you never assume either...) that your enemy knows everything about you, your tactics and your weapon systems.

What kind of an idiot just sits back and goes
"hey who cares if the armours crap, the enemy don't know that".

That is a recipe for death.

Every countries armed forces get the best for the money they can, not the best that there is full stop..... $$$ matter to the powers that be more than spending big on toys for the boys to play with (as it's seen to be).

Very sad, but very true.
Scrim
05-20-2004, 02:22 PM
Yeah yeah, old topic I know. Just wanted to post what the Marine Corps is planning to replace the AAV with around 2006/2008. Looks pretty impressive.
Fromhttp://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/aaav.htm There is a good comparisson of the two at this site, and more pics.

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/ali.jpg

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Q12.jpg


http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Q13.jpg

http://www.xbox-connection.com/hostedimages/Q14.jpg
Ratamacue
05-20-2004, 05:54 PM
Nice to know they're replacing the AAV7 with a vehicle with better armor and firepower. Just wondering though, but why doesn't the USMC just use the LAV for everything instead of just Light Armored Recon?
Tane Angle
05-20-2004, 06:28 PM
Anyone know how the armor is on the AAAV? Thanks.
Kampfbaer
05-20-2004, 06:50 PM
Itīs too thin!!!

But you canīt get a Bradley that is able to swim at the same weight.
Scrim
05-20-2004, 07:07 PM
Nice to know they're replacing the AAV7 with a vehicle with better armor and firepower. Just wondering though, but why doesn't the USMC just use the LAV for everything instead of just Light Armored Recon?

Well the LAV only carries 8 Marines, the AAV carries 18. And while the LAV is amphibious its not really designed for riding around in the ocean, the AAAV is more "boat" like and can travel 65 miles at up to 29 mph on the ocean.
usa320
05-20-2004, 07:53 PM
Alot of fine marines are dead, because of old outdated equipment. the piece of **** CH-46(crashed and killed, not only US MARINES, but some brits to

i gotta agree...

The CH-46 needs replacement badly.
Michael RVR
05-20-2004, 08:08 PM
I heard they were having problems with the water jets on the AAAV, anyone know if they've fixed it up? I thought the speed was higher than 29mph on water thoguh, even though that is fast ;)

Wasn't there a program to up-armour the LVTP/AAV-7?
Felix
05-20-2004, 10:00 PM
Yea, about Marines being killed because of outdated equipment, you guys are right. When I first enlisted in the corps, I made sure not, by any means, to get stuck driving one of those things, and I was always pissy about riding in them :(
mattnwnc03
05-20-2004, 11:05 PM
yeah its a total shame, the marines unfortunately when it come to recieving money are dead last in the defense budget.they recieve equipment thats usually outdated on its last leg.
Johnnyringo
05-21-2004, 12:00 AM
The only thing about the 46 that's the same is the airframe... The engines, the avionics are all brand new, not to mention the missile defense capabilities it has (although nothing defends against a lone RPG). To say the 46 is outdated is just plain wrong.
Ratamacue
05-21-2004, 12:27 AM
The only thing about the 46 that's the same is the airframe... The engines, the avionics are all brand new, not to mention the missile defense capabilities it has (although nothing defends against a lone RPG). To say the 46 is outdated is just plain wrong.

What about the hydraulics? To my knowledge that's what's been causing most of its crashes, though I could be wrong.
Jackel
05-21-2004, 02:14 AM
I remember the first time I rode in an AmTrac (in 29 Palms (CAX), I got sick on diesel fumes, and all our gear was soaked in antifreeze. When it was time to disembark, I about fell over.