Thousands to reject Bush's UK visit

[jdbjdb]

A British member of parliament has tabled a motion to prevent US President George Bush’s state visit to London this November.

Jeremy Corbyn presented the motion on Monday evening and told Aljazeera.net he could not understand why Britain should want to receive a president who started the war in Iraq.

“Why on earth this country should want to receive such a man is totally beyond me.”

The Labour MP added that the “number of people he [George Bush] is bringing with him is quite ridiculous and represents a huge expense to the British tax payer too.”

More than 4000 police officers are expected to be used to cover the demonstrations during the three-day visit at a cost of more than $1,500,000.

Stop the War Coalition organiser, John Rees, applauded the sentiment and hopes the visit will be cancelled.

He believes well over 100,000 people will turn up on 19 November to protest the presidential visit should it go ahead.

The Stop the War Coalition has been mobilising opposition to Bush’s visit and has arranged demonstrations, including a mock royal procession, a national march and a rally in Trafalgar Square, where protestors plan to topple a statue of the president.

“The prospect of having hundreds of trigger-happy armed US body guards on British soil, though outrageous, will not affect our preparations for a huge demonstration”

Another organiser, Ghada Razuki, said the reaction the visit continues to generate is phenomenal.

“It is not just from people who are against the Iraq war, but from people who just hate Bush for what he has done to the environment.”

Corbyn, Rees and Razuki are all sceptical of the security operation being put in place to protect Bush and his entourage.

“The prospect of having hundreds of trigger-happy armed US body guards on British soil, though outrageous, will not affect our preparations for a huge demonstration,” Rees said.

British police do not routinely carry weapons, so the prospect of foreign armed body guards flanking the president in London this month will be unprecedented.

However, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police John Stevens said all police leave has been cancelled for the first state visit to Britain by a US president in more than 80 years.

Head of British intelligence MI5 Eliza Manningham Buller has already warned of an attempted strike by al-Qaida operatives and Stevens has also expressed concern over a human bomb attack.


Source: Aljazeera

[Seoulstriker]

way to go brits. way to go. :roll:

source al jazeera

[Seoulstriker]

“The prospect of having hundreds of trigger-happy armed US body guards on British soil, though outrageous, will not affect our preparations for a huge demonstration”

Another organiser, Ghada Razuki, said the reaction the visit continues to generate is phenomenal.

“It is not just from people who are against the Iraq war, but from people who just hate Bush for what he has done to the environment.”

wow. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NcDeuce]

way to go brits. way to go. :roll:

source al jazeera

al jazeera :cantbeli:

[jdbjdb]

As Americans we are so damn unappreciated. No other country in the world gives away billions as we do. Whenver there is trouble who's military helps out? America! Ungreatful world we live in. :cantbeli:

[Argyll]

Don't forget Seoul,Tony Blair faced an uphill struggle to get a vote to send troops to war,and in the end he only narrowly achieved that!
Many of the Labour Government were furious with him,2 senior cabinet memebrs resigned because of this,and even now he's on thin ice,especially the balls up over the 45 min claim!
That claim,was the deciding factor for many of the MP's,had it not been there ,then Parlaiment would no doubt have voted against sending British Troops to war.
There's not much love for old GWB in the Labour Party,never mind the Liberals,so I'm not too surprised about this really! :|

*Edit*
And in most cases in rescent history jdbjdb,the Brits have been right by your side!!

[Seoulstriker]

Don't forget Seoul,Tony Blair faced an uphill struggle to get a vote to send troops to war,and in the end he only narrowly achieved that!
Many of the Labour Government were furious with him,2 senior cabinet memebrs resigned because of this,and even now he's on thin ice,especially the balls up over the 45 min claim!
That claim,was the deciding factor for many of the MP's,had it not been there ,then Parlaiment would no doubt have voted against sending British Troops to war.
There's not much love for old GWB in the Labour Party,never mind the Liberals,so I'm not too surprised about this really! :|

*Edit*
And in most cases in rescent history jdbjdb,the Brits have been right by your side!!

damn. they are so stubborn. just like chamberlain.

[jdbjdb]

“The prospect of having hundreds of trigger-happy armed US body guards on British soil, though outrageous, will not affect our preparations for a huge demonstration,” Rees said.
Secret Service Agents are not trigger-happy :roll:

[Seoulstriker]

“The prospect of having hundreds of trigger-happy armed US body guards on British soil, though outrageous, will not affect our preparations for a huge demonstration,” Rees said.
Secret Service Agents are not trigger-happy :roll:

what do these blokes know anyway? as in a previous topic they thought the same thing was with us soldiers.

is there a connection?

[Skaman]

dont laugh. Aljazera is no more credible than Fox News and CNN half the time.


Its not to say CNN lies, but the news is skewed in compariosn to the truth, as other relevent news is deemed "usa harmfull", and is left absent.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

"As Americans we are so damn unappreciated. No other country in the world gives away billions as we do. Whenver there is trouble who's military helps out? America! Ungreatful world we live in."

Well I thought I'd never say this but jdbjdb I agree with you. I think next time a country asks for any international help for overthrowing a dictator they can eat ass.

[Fargin]

I think next time a country asks for any international help for overthrowing a dictator they can eat ass.

like US did? rofl

[Seoulstriker]

I think next time a country asks for any international help for overthrowing a dictator they can eat ass.

like US did? rofl

well, they wouldn't be able to get very far unlike the US. :bash:

[Argyll]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

[Seoulstriker]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

[Skaman]

remeber guys, the world revolves around the USA, and we are all wrong in thinking any different. Additionaly, we have no say in world politics or in america for that matter, because were not american. Dare say something contraversal and the patriot sheeps will be on your ass like a fat kid on butter.

[Seoulstriker]

remeber guys, the world revolves around the USA, and we are all wrong in thinking any different. Additionaly, we have no say in world politics or in america for that matter, because were not american. Dare say something contraversal and the patriot sheeps will be on your ass like a fat kid on butter.

oh, you're absolutely right. you have a say in world politics, but it just shows the true nature of the countries.

thousands of people in countries such as France, Germany, UK, etc show that they don't give a **** about mass graves, genocide, terrorism, hundreds of thousands of people being killed, proliferation of WMD.

go fuc* yourself, you self-centered bastard. the US is the only country that seems to care about the welfare of others. :bash: :slap:

[Skaman]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

[Seoulstriker]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

[Fargin]

thousands of people in countries such as France, Germany, UK, etc show that they don't give a **** about mass graves, genocide, terrorism, hundreds of thousands of people being killed, proliferation of WMD.

go fuc* yourself, you self-centered bastard. the US is the only country that seems to care about the welfare of others. :bash: :slap:

True but simplistic.... well let's just stay with simplistic and cut out true.

Seems liek you cowboys are fast to forget your "broad coalition," when it's time to claim the fame.

[Skaman]

remeber guys, the world revolves around the USA, and we are all wrong in thinking any different. Additionaly, we have no say in world politics or in america for that matter, because were not american. Dare say something contraversal and the patriot sheeps will be on your ass like a fat kid on butter.

oh, you're absolutely right. you have a say in world politics, but it just shows the true nature of the countries.

thousands of people in countries such as France, Germany, UK, etc show that they don't give a **** about mass graves, genocide, terrorism, hundreds of thousands of people being killed, proliferation of WMD.

go fuc* yourself, you self-centered bastard. the US is the only country that seems to care about the welfare of others. :bash: :slap:



genocide heh, lets take the recent incidents in the Balkans as a prime falsification in your so called "statement"

genoicide there?yep
mass graves?yep
terrorism?yep
thousands being killed?yep
poor human rights?yep

Did this incident conercn the USA or their recent involvement in Iraq, NO. You are cleary blind these atrocities occured beyond the hot topic on CNN. Bosnia was a site of horrible atrocity, and a coalition of MANY nations participated in this effort despite no economic gain. Not to mention the USA was NOT the firat nation to step up to that immense problem. Before you accuse the world of not taking an active stand in human rights, examine your history prior.

[Skaman]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!

[Seoulstriker]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!

you're kidding, right?

[mocking_loudly_died]

American cares about one thing, America.

Just like every other country only gives a **** about it's self.

To honestly believe that one country is the only righteous entity in the world you would simply have to be a naive **** head.

Gawd, you kiddies with your bloody idealism.

[Seoulstriker]

genoicide there?yep
mass graves?yep
terrorism?yep
thousands being killed?yep
poor human rights?yep


sounds like Iraq. the US seems like the only country that wanted to liberate that country from oppression, and you're sitting there bitching... pathetic.

when did canada take the initiative to confront evil?

[Fargin]

chile 9/11? (http://www.geocities.com/socialistparty/chile.htm)

[Seoulstriker]

American cares about one thing, America.

Just like every other country only gives a **** about it's self.

To honestly believe that one country is the only righteous entity in the world you would simply have to be a naive **** head.

Gawd, you kiddies with your bloody idealism.

no, it's ridiculous for ducimus19 to say that what the US has done in Iraq (including liberating a horribly oppressed people from mass graves and torture) is wrong, and that canada is morally superior in that regard.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Christ Seoul is everything black and white to you?

No shades of grey in your universe, only the forces of good and the demons of darkness?

It seems your basis of world politics is stuck in a star wars movie.

[Seoulstriker]

chile 9/11? (http://www.geocities.com/socialistparty/chile.htm)

tell me what was wrong about the US liberating Iraq. that's all i want to know.

[Seoulstriker]

Christ Seoul is everything black and white to you?

No shades of grey in your universe, only the forces of good and the demons of darkness?

It seems your basis of world politics is stuck in a star wars movie.

i still don't understand why Ducimus19 would say that the US was wrong in liberating Iraq. the issue of liberation and not is pretty black and white.

[Shake n Bake]

its staggering the amount of useful idiots that are still out there..


I think Europe is almost ripe for another Hitler

[carljii]

dear lord, everyones always got to be so confrontational. Get a grip.

Oh, and LOL @

thousands of people in countries such as France, Germany, UK, etc show that they don't give a **** about mass graves, genocide, terrorism, hundreds of thousands of people being killed, proliferation of WMD.

go fuc* yourself, you self-centered bastard. the US is the only country that seems to care about the welfare of others

thats probably the funniest thing i've ever read. I'd write something witty and pointless but this thread is actually very reflective of attitudes throughout the globe and therefore quite serious. All i will say is: The ignorance in this thread is shocking. No-one's backing up their arguments with fact nor giving any thought to a counter-argument. This is sometimes the best site around with truly informative conversations. Other times its an arena for 16yr olds with pent up aggresion to vent their anti Euro/muslim/anythingbutus mentalities.

The one truth is, NO NATION(Not my beloved UK, and certainly not the US) acts for the benefit of the entire human race unless there's something to benefit their own position. Its a sad but innevitable truth.

Don't get me wrong, your pride is exemplory but its not that far removed from the language you'd read on a Pro-muslim-anti-western-activist forum. Theres always 3 sides to an argument: your side, their side and the truth. As someone pointed out CNN and Aljazera would obviously be on an opposing axis. Just try and read round an argument b4 u spread pointless rumour and propoganda.

[Skaman]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!

you're kidding, right?


no, provide me with an incident where the USA succesfully overthrew a dictator almost by themselves???


american rev-native/french helped
war of 1812-you failed
ww1-usa/eng/can/aus/france/belgium etc. helped
ww2-same as above
korea-canada/aus/brit/usa
vietnam-failed
panama-failed
el salvador-failed
haiti-failed
Kuwait/Iraq-sadam left in power, kuwait is now a puppet-failure
somalia-failed
Afganistan-a combind international effort and so far failing
Liberia-failed
Iraq/03-a combind international effort and so far failing

these are just a few examples. So much for liberation all by themselves heh?

[Fargin]

Atleast in Europe you can still speak your mind.

Time for me to catch some z'

[jdbjdb]

According to the EU, Israel is #1 threat to world peace, USA is #2 , North Korea #3 Iran #4

[mocking_loudly_died]

Okay.

In my mind liberating Iraq is a damn good thing.

But alot of people question why the US committed itself to such an act, think about it - there are loads of despots we covertly support.

That’s the nature of world politics - I'm not going to get bogged down in morality issues.

Some people just find it hypocritical of the US to pick and choose peoples freedom.

Now I'm sure the next comments are going to be "Mocking you surrender monkey commie bastard".

:lol:

I support the US, but I don't for minute honestly believe they exist only to do the world a great moral service.

All nations are selfish bastards.

Fact of life, not a condemnation of your country.

Rock on.

[Argyll]

Is Scotland on that list? rofl

[Fargin]

First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

good night ladies p-)

[Vance]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!
Spanish-American war. We did it by ourselves.

Mexican-American war. Yeah, we fought off the Mexicans and Santa Anna, a not-so-nice guy.

WWII. Of course we had tons of support from many countries, but the US was in it (A big part, I might add) and that's right, Canada, YES CANADA, helped alot too.

GW1. We had alot of help, yes, but I beileve it was a ''US-led'' coalition.

GW2. Main fighting was done by the US, Britain, and Australia. Now more than 30 countries have joined the peacekeeping coalition

[jdbjdb]

Is Scotland on that list?
no but I think Ireland was

[carljii]

lol, i cant help but say this - Seoulstriker - ducimu19 hasnt said anything about the US. He merely pointed out that the US doesnt go around the globe toppling tyrants on its own - it useally acts within an alliance.

Similarly he did not try and suggest Canada was any better.

As someone just said, these matters arent Black & White. Unfortunately its ignorance like this that makes our beautiful world such a dangerous and oppresive place for those misfortunate ppl who are subjugated by a powerful and opportunistic minority.

[Skaman]

American cares about one thing, America.

Just like every other country only gives a **** about it's self.

To honestly believe that one country is the only righteous entity in the world you would simply have to be a naive **** head.

Gawd, you kiddies with your bloody idealism.

no, it's ridiculous for ducimus19 to say that what the US has done in Iraq (including liberating a horribly oppressed people from mass graves and torture) is wrong, and that canada is morally superior in that regard.


I have never said that overthowing sadam was wrong, just the reasons that the USA finally went in there are wrong.

1.USA wants a stong foothold in ME
2.OIL oh plentifull, particulairly as reserves are drying up
3.Instate another devote puppet ie.Kuwait
4.Attempt to clean their embarrasing smear of World politics-ironically the opposite occured
5.PAY BACK BABY!!! DADDY WOULD BE PROUD

I am more in favor of the missions where nations are there simply to help, and thats it. Again, I will USE Bosnia

Canada gives so much money away its not even funny, to the extent we do this, it may not be bright, but atleast we dont "liberate" and restore peace with the barrel of a gun!

Canada focuses on helping less fortuned nations to get them on their feet, not exploit them econimically and help them out simply to cover ones trail.

[Vance]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!

you're kidding, right?


no, provide me with an incident where the USA succesfully overthrew a dictator almost by themselves???


american rev-native/french helped
war of 1812-you failed
ww1-usa/eng/can/aus/france/belgium etc. helped
ww2-same as above
korea-canada/aus/brit/usa
vietnam-failed
panama-failed
el salvador-failed
haiti-failed
Kuwait/Iraq-sadam left in power, kuwait is now a puppet-failure
somalia-failed
Afganistan-a combind international effort and so far failing
Liberia-failed
Iraq/03-a combind international effort and so far failing

these are just a few examples. So much for liberation all by themselves heh?
ROFLMAO!! Jesus Christ, were do I begin with this load of crap... rofl

[Fioraon]

WOW!!! LOOK AT ALL THE BULL ****!!!

[jdbjdb]

2.OIL oh plentifull, particulairly as reserves are drying up
I asure you, if we wanted oil, we would take it ;)
Where was the international community when Libeira was in trouble? The UN called on America troops there after were spread all over the world helping others out. Why couldn't Canada send troops or France or Germany or UN peace keepers? The next tyrant causing problems the world will call on the United States to handle the bulk of the problem, and I'm sure we will do it without thinking twice.

[Skaman]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!
Spanish-American war. We did it by ourselves.

Mexican-American war. Yeah, we fought off the Mexicans and Santa Anna, a not-so-nice guy.

WWII. Of course we had tons of support from many countries, but the US was in it (A big part, I might add) and that's right, Canada, YES CANADA, helped alot too.

GW1. We had alot of help, yes, but I beileve it was a ''US-led'' coalition.

GW2. Main fighting was done by the US, Britain, and Australia. Now more than 30 countries have joined the peacekeeping coalition


mexican and spanish wars. hahahaha!!!! overthrowing a dictator, are you kidding. That was all about expanding American borders westward, slaughtering natives all the way. It wasent a MORAL war, it was economic. A classic expand borders get more resources war. Again, CHECK YOUR HISTORY!!!!!

[Skaman]

2.OIL oh plentifull, particulairly as reserves are drying up
I asure you, if we wanted oil, we would take it ;)
Where was the international community when Libeira was in trouble? The UN called on America troops there after were spread all over the world helping others out. Why couldn't Canada send troops or France or Germany or UN peace keepers? The next tyrant causing problems the world will call on the United States to handle the bulk of the problem, and I'm sure we will do it without thinking twice.

oh, i do belive you. and you do take it. Reason I dislike american foreign policy.

You practically steal Canadian oil concerning how bad you undercut us despite your "commitment" to NAFTA

[Vance]

Are there any other countries in the world who want to overthrow a dictator/s?

the US seems like the only country who fights for civil rights nowadays.

give me a BREAK, you are so proud its blinding. You think the USA is the only nation to take a stand in HUMAN RIGHTS? Rethink what you just said.

ok. when has canada last liberated a country under the control of murderous, torturous tyrants almost by itself?

WHEN HAS AMERICA??? they NEVER HAVE!!!
Spanish-American war. We did it by ourselves.

Mexican-American war. Yeah, we fought off the Mexicans and Santa Anna, a not-so-nice guy.

WWII. Of course we had tons of support from many countries, but the US was in it (A big part, I might add) and that's right, Canada, YES CANADA, helped alot too.

GW1. We had alot of help, yes, but I beileve it was a ''US-led'' coalition.

GW2. Main fighting was done by the US, Britain, and Australia. Now more than 30 countries have joined the peacekeeping coalition


mexican and spanish wars. hahahaha!!!! overthrowing a dictator, are you kidding. That was all about expanding American borders westward, slaughtering natives all the way. It wasent a MORAL war, it was economic. A classic expand borders get more resources war. Again, CHECK YOUR HISTORY!!!!!
LAUGHING MY ASS OFF. You kow nothing about US history. Shutup, please.

Here you go rofl

http://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/spanishamerican/section1.html

[jdbjdb]

Hey we were doing what our British brothers were doing, expanding the empire hehehehe :roll:

[Skaman]

well, i have silenced souel striker, apparently hes not so tough without his gang of sheep posting useless shutup and this thread is stupid posts.

[Fioraon]

well, i have silenced souel striker, apparently hes not so tough without his gang of sheep posting useless shutup and this thread is stupid posts.

You must feel good about beating a troll at his own game. Congrats.

[jdbjdb]

well, i have silenced souel striker, apparently hes not so tough without his gang of sheep posting useless shutup and this thread is stupid posts.
no maybe he has somthing better todo then to sit on the puter arguing with a canadian, like i'm doing ;)

[Skaman]

well, i have silenced souel striker, apparently hes not so tough without his gang of sheep posting useless shutup and this thread is stupid posts.
no maybe he has somthing better todo then to sit on the puter arguing with a canadian, like i'm doing ;)


haha, ya right, isint he the one with over 1400 posts???? like he has a life.....

[mocking_loudly_died]

Welcome to flame central, we hope you enjoy your stay and contribute to the massive amount of text bitching to come. :D

[Skaman]

Welcome to flame central, we hope you enjoy your stay and contribute to the massive amount of text bitching to come. :D


do you think militaryphotos.net has turned into an unfriendly enviroment?

[Vance]

Welcome to flame central, we hope you enjoy your stay and contribute to the massive amount of text bitching to come. :D


do you think militaryphotos.net has turned into an unfriendly enviroment?
*Looks back before you were registered here*



No

[Fioraon]

Welcome to flame central, we hope you enjoy your stay and contribute to the massive amount of text bitching to come. :D


do you think militaryphotos.net has turned into an unfriendly enviroment?

No, just a bunch of bitching girls

[Ratamacue]

You aren't such a friendly person yourself, ducimus.

By the way, none of the areas that were fought in during the Spanish-American War remain in American hands save a few military bases.

[Skaman]

You aren't such a friendly person yourself, ducimus.

By the way, none of the areas that were fought in during the Spanish-American War remain in American hands save a few military bases.

still, seoul's point is not relevent, and I hope he acknowleges that. I dont like to think of myself as unfriendly, I just come across that way b/c people dont agree with me. Putting politics aside im sure I could sit down and have a beer with the lot of ya :D


politics aside of course.........

[mocking_loudly_died]

Ah Beer, is there nothing this substance can't solve?

[Ratamacue]

Ah Beer, is there nothing this substance can't solve?

I think not... :D

[Skaman]

Ah Beer, is there nothing this substance can't solve?

I think not... :D


dont like beer??? are you kidding...
unless you were beat by an alcoholic I just cant understand.

:|

[jdbjdb]

On the sixth day God turned to Archangel Gabriel and said: "Today I am going to create a land called Canada, it will be a land of outstanding natural beauty. It shall have tall majestic mountains full of mountain goats and eagles, beautiful sparkling lakes bountiful with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, high cliffs over-looking sandy beaches with an abundance of sea life, and rivers stocked with salmon."

God continued, "I shall make the land rich in oil so as to make the inhabitants prosper, I shall call these inhabitants Canadians, and they shall be known as the most friendly people on the earth."

"But Lord," asked Gabriel, "don't you think you are being too generous to these Canadians?"

"Not really," replied God, "just wait and see the neighbours I am going to give them."

[Ratamacue]

Ah Beer, is there nothing this substance can't solve?

I think not... :D


dont like beer??? are you kidding...
unless you were beat by an alcoholic I just cant understand.

:|

I love beer. When I say "I think not" I mean "I do not think there is anything this substance can't solve." Get it? Got it? Good.

[Skaman]

On the sixth day God turned to Archangel Gabriel and said: "Today I am going to create a land called Canada, it will be a land of outstanding natural beauty. It shall have tall majestic mountains full of mountain goats and eagles, beautiful sparkling lakes bountiful with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, high cliffs over-looking sandy beaches with an abundance of sea life, and rivers stocked with salmon."

God continued, "I shall make the land rich in oil so as to make the inhabitants prosper, I shall call these inhabitants Canadians, and they shall be known as the most friendly people on the earth."

"But Lord," asked Gabriel, "don't you think you are being too generous to these Canadians?"

"Not really," replied God, "just wait and see the neighbours I am going to give them."



hhaha, nice man. Yet I dont think we have Bass...we have pike, walleye and trout!

[jdbjdb]

I like British Columbia, one of my favorite places to visit, on my way to Alaska, but the drunk natives scare me

[Skaman]

I like British Columbia, one of my favorite places to visit, on my way to Alaska, but the drunk natives scare me

ah, as long as you toss em a six pack they will stay at bay. Beat em with a 2'4 when the come back for seconds.

[Vance]

Hah, I think there are more drunks in Canada than in Alaska... :)

[Skaman]

Hah, I think there are more drunks in Canada than in Alaska... :)

Not B.C, we dont drink nearly as much in comparison to the de-criminlized weed. Preety much B.C smokes weed, gives away free money, and we have *** alot. It like the 60's BABY!

[jdbjdb]

I was at a popular tourist site in Fair Banks Alaska, it has a mounument of eskimos, off to the side about half a dozen natives fell in the river, it was great i got all kinds of pictures but the police weren't to happy

[Jack Mehoff]

American cares about one thing, America.

Just like every other country only gives a **** about it's self.

To honestly believe that one country is the only righteous entity in the world you would simply have to be a naive **** head.

Gawd, you kiddies with your bloody idealism.

Yeah, we only care about ourself. Let's pull all U.S. forces out of S. Korea, Japan, Middle East, Europe and **** the world. Let them take care of their own asses. Next time if somebody knock on our door for military/aid assistance and we will greet them with a shotgun.

[Jack Mehoff]

I think next time a country asks for any international help for overthrowing a dictator they can eat ass.

like US did? rofl

Fargin,

You don't think U.S. military as whole can not take care of Iraq without any international assistance? :roll: How about let's take U.S. Army 2nd ID out of South Korea rotate them in Iraq? How about another 20,000 U.S. Marines out of Japan and put them in Iraq. The reason why we need international military assistance in Iraq is because most of our armed forces are too busy protecting whiners.

You get the drift now?

[wholagun]

ducimus19
hhaha, nice man. Yet I dont think we have Bass...we have pike, walleye and trout!
No Bass!!! :cantbeli: There's plenty in Ontario.

[Fioraon]

I'll take a Stella, yeah thanks... I'm goona go passout now.

[jdbjdb]

Don't we have around 1.5 million troops world wide?

[Jack Mehoff]

Don't we have around 1.5 million troops world wide?

2 million if you want to count another 500,000 guards and reservists because a lot of them are on active duty right now.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Jack, US troops are situated in places that suit American interests.

Blah, Like I give a turd.

You seem to have an almost evangelical outlook on your nation.

World politics is complicated – never black and white.

[Jack Mehoff]

Jack, US troops are situated in places that suit American interests.

Blah, Like I give a turd.

You seem to have an almost evangelical outlook on your nation.

World politics is complicated – never black and white.

That's true, but you left out the part U.S.'s interests are beneficial for everybody, or at least to all the countries with some form of democractic government. What kind of benefits the world get if South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Germany, etc. are communists? Another WW3 maybe?

You might want to live in a communist country for a year like I had, come back here and i'll listen to your opinion.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Jack my old mucker. (colonial slang) ;)

I'm a massive supporter of the USA; I'm not a commie loving Stalinist revisionist.

All I'm saying is you chaps can't claim to be 100% clean of the seedy world of international politics.

Nations do everything they must to ensure their survival, I was just pointing out to a few of the other chaps that issues are never as simple as "good guys and bad guys".


:D

[Skaman]

Jack my old mucker. (colonial slang) ;)

I'm a massive supporter of the USA; I'm not a commie loving Stalinist revisionist.

All I'm saying is you chaps can't claim to be 100% clean of the seedy world of international politics.

Nations do everything they must to ensure their survival, I was just pointing out to a few of the other chaps that issues are never as simple as "good guys and bad guys".


:D


Dont even try arguing with him man. I have, and im quoted as stupid, dumb, and ignorant etc. I try to aim my intellectual comments above the bar of "jack mehoff"

his name implies all.......

[Jack Mehoff]

I try to aim my intellectual comments above the bar of "jack mehoff"




I think half of the people here have to disagree with you there rofl

[StarvingStudent47]

There is nothing mutually exclusive about helping the USA and helping other countries. Keeping US troops in Kuwait helps ensure that that we have a stable country to buy oil from. But it also keeps Kuwait safe from foreign annexation--by another country who would do a lot more to them then buy their oil. Substitute "South Korea" for "Kuwait" and "lame cars" for "oil" and you get the idea.

People question the motives of helping hands all too often. Many times, it blinds them to the fact that it is, at the end of the day, still a helping hand. Do you think that the prisoners of Dachau and Bergen-Belsen asked about the personal motivations of the Allied troops that liberated them? HELL NO. Sure, most of those soldiers hadn't specifically signed up to save European Jews, but who cares? They did it anyway, and that's what matters, right?

It'd be nice if countries who are independent because of American aid/forces extended the same courtesy.

[Skaman]

I try to aim my intellectual comments above the bar of "jack mehoff"




I think half of the people here have to disagree with you there rofl


I am sure your sheep following would agree with you jack. Your reightious group of blind patriots is sure something to brag about.....

[Ratamacue]

I'd rather be a blind patriot than a self-righteous critic.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I'm going to stick to being rational and open to debate rather than extreme right wing behaviour or loony left denial.

:D

[StarvingStudent47]

I am sure your sheep following would agree with you jack. Your reightious group of blind patriots is sure something to brag about.....

Oh get off your high horse already. Despite your continual assertions of moral and intellectual superiority, you resort to personal attacks more than just about anyone else on the board. I've butted my head with Jack on plenty of issues (primarily whether American foreign policy should be interventionist or isolationist), and if I treat him with a modicum of respect, he does the same to me. The only reason you get yelled at, Ducimus, is because you go looking for trouble. Not intellectual disagreement. Trouble.

[Skaman]

I am sure your sheep following would agree with you jack. Your reightious group of blind patriots is sure something to brag about.....

Oh get off your high horse already. Despite your continual assertions of moral and intellectual superiority, you resort to personal attacks more than just about anyone else on the board. I've butted my head with Jack on plenty of issues (primarily whether American foreign policy should be interventionist or isolationist), and if I treat him with a modicum of respect, he does the same to me. The only reason you get yelled at, Ducimus, is because you go looking for trouble. Not intellectual disagreement. Trouble.


ah, I would say a bit of both :D

[mocking_loudly_died]

I'm with Starving Student there.

I disagree with alot of things Jack say's but I try to refrain from personal insults. :lol:

The world would be a rather bland place if we all ran around with the same point of view.

[Skaman]

I really enjoy chatting with alot of people on here. There are only two people I srongly dislike


1.Jack
2.Trigger

So, I might poke fun at them off and on to get pressure off my chest, after all, im human guys.

[Jack Mehoff]

:lol: I think normal, healthy males should worship Jack Meoff. How natural can it be? Even the ladies worship Jack Meoff, in a different way.

[mocking_loudly_died]

I think normal, healthy males should worship Jack Meoff. How natural can it be? Even the ladies worship Jack Meoff, in a different way.

rofl

[Fioraon]

NastyBurger > Ducimus19

[Skaman]

NastyBurger > Ducimus19

is that British slang or something, cuz it sounds preety lame

[Fioraon]

NO, and you wouldn't understand...

[Jack Mehoff]

Let's pretend that i don't know who Nasty Burger is

[AFACadet]

^^^^
hmmm... thought those pics looked very similar as those on another forum coughAAcough ;)

[Jack Mehoff]

OMG!! Flyboy is here. How's Colorado Spring?

[AFACadet]

S****y weather...

heh, what's up?

[Fargin]

NastyBurger > Ducimus19

VeryNastyBurger > NastyBurger

&

NastyBurgerv2.0 > VeryNastyBurger

AFACadet aren't you.... na you can't be. :D

[AFACadet]

Woha! It's like a mini reunion :)

[WARPIG]

Does anyone remember me saying something about " a gang of monkeys trying to hump a greased football?" Well, I go to read a post about George dubya.. and I happen across this scene again.
I smell a ****burger ... is dicamus posting in here??

[Guttorm]

When youre posting about the beer, solving all... Remember that a lot of the guys posting here aren't old enough to drink the stuff... :D

[aeternum]

2.OIL oh plentifull, particulairly as reserves are drying up
I asure you, if we wanted oil, we would take it ;)
Where was the international community when Libeira was in trouble? The UN called on America troops there after were spread all over the world helping others out. Why couldn't Canada send troops or France or Germany or UN peace keepers? The next tyrant causing problems the world will call on the United States to handle the bulk of the problem, and I'm sure we will do it without thinking twice.

Its the USA, who have a history with Liberia, not Canada, not France and not Germany. Thats the "only" reason the UN called the US for help.

Just take the Kongo example. Kongo is an ex-colony from France. Did the UN asked the US for help? No, they asked France. So what happend? France went in, with German forces supplying them...

[Smintjes]

Just take the Kongo example. Kongo is an ex-colony from France. Did the UN asked the US for help? No, they asked France. So what happend? France went in, with German forces supplying them...

Small correction: The Congo is a former colony of Belgium. Not that I'm proud of that.

[Fioraon]

Woha! It's like a mini reunion :)

Indeed (GoRanger here been stalking Fargin and Nasty for some time now)