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Geezah
02-19-2005, 11:03 AM
Two serving police constables have been arrested on suspicion of trying to sell cannabis, it has been confirmed.

The man and woman, who both work for Thames Valley Police in Maidenhead in Berkshire, were arrested on Wednesday.

They have also been accused of possessing a Class C drug, corruption and perverting the course of justice.

They are now the focus of an inquiry by the force's professional standards unit and have been released on bail until Monday, 25 April.



Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/berkshire/4279589.stm)

I'm not trying to start a flame here, but only posting this to show that while there are those that trust LE 100%, there are still those in the force that are susceptible to the same things that affect everyone else that is human.

von_Moo142
02-19-2005, 11:38 AM
there are still those in the force that are susceptible to the same things that affect everyone else that is human.

Of course.

And the same is true of CCW holders, "responsible" citizens, bible belt preachers, politicians of all denominations, gun totin' bunker dwellin' survivalists, bleeding heart "liberals", sports heros, etc.

Geezah
02-19-2005, 11:55 AM
there are still those in the force that are susceptible to the same things that affect everyone else that is human.

Of course.

And the same is true of CCW holders, "responsible" citizens, bible belt preachers, politicians of all denominations, gun totin' bunker dwellin' survivalists, bleeding heart "liberals", sports heros, etc.

To be honest with you, I've not come across anything where a CCW holder has actually broken the law, but I may not be looking that hard ;)
I've was just trying to show that putting your life 100% in the boys in blues hands was wrong, but I'm not trying to tell anyone to defy the Police, it's just a fine line, where I choose to rely on myself first then the Police, given the situation.

BlackRain
02-19-2005, 11:57 AM
[quote]Two serving police constables have been arrested on suspicion of trying to sell cannabis, it has been confirmed.

It was also noted that these two constables had unlicensed apples in their vehicles. The wanton use of apples in vehicles is extremely hazardous to public safety. We can all sleep a little safer tonight taking these fruits of the street.

BarkingSquirrel
02-19-2005, 11:58 AM
I think you had an accident, mate.

von_Moo142
02-19-2005, 12:14 PM
To be honest with you, I've not come across anything where a CCW holder has actually broken the law, but I may not be looking that hard

Well it's not news when CCW holders commit crimes, which I'm sure they do as much as their imediate peers. And rightly so, of course.


I've was just trying to show that putting your life 100% in the boys in blues hands was wrong

I fully agree. I think that assuming anything or anyone to be 100% reliable is daft. There are always limitations and people are always prone to error.

Geezah
02-19-2005, 01:02 PM
To be honest with you, I've not come across anything where a CCW holder has actually broken the law, but I may not be looking that hard

Well it's not news when CCW holders commit crimes, which I'm sure they do as much as their imediate peers. And rightly so, of course.

Your joking right, the Liberal media over here would have a field day and I'm pretty sure CBS would run a special on it. The majority of prime time media fall behind the gun grabbing liberals and would love nothing less than a juicy story about how individuals cannot be trusted to carry concelaed firearms because they also break the law..



I've was just trying to show that putting your life 100% in the boys in blues hands was wrong

I fully agree. I think that assuming anything or anyone to be 100% reliable is daft. There are always limitations and people are always prone to error.

And that's why I'm armed because I've been exposed to bad things and as they always say "there's never a Polieman around when you need one".
I respect them, I repsect the fact they put their lives on line for others and they don't get paid a great deal for doing so, but they must also respect my choice and the fact the law allows me to make that choice.

Dennis G
02-19-2005, 05:16 PM
Cops are humans, no better and no worse, so it's to be expected. Sad, but expected. The same can be said in the military.

I know some officers that do some things that many people would not approve of. I know a guy that drinks vodka like a fish and several that abuse steroids to bulk up. Like I said it's sad...




To be honest with you, I've not come across anything where a CCW holder has actually broken the law, but I may not be looking that hard

Well it's not news when CCW holders commit crimes, which I'm sure they do as much as their imediate peers. And rightly so, of course.

Your joking right, the Liberal media over here would have a field day and I'm pretty sure CBS would run a special on it. The majority of prime time media fall behind the gun grabbing liberals and would love nothing less than a juicy story about how individuals cannot be trusted to carry concelaed firearms because they also break the law..



I've was just trying to show that putting your life 100% in the boys in blues hands was wrong

I fully agree. I think that assuming anything or anyone to be 100% reliable is daft. There are always limitations and people are always prone to error.

And that's why I'm armed because I've been exposed to bad things and as they always say "there's never a Polieman around when you need one".
I respect them, I repsect the fact they put their lives on line for others and they don't get paid a great deal for doing so, but they must also respect my choice and the fact the law allows me to make that choice.

very true, and you will find many, many cops are the same way!! (I can post links to a few very pro CCW LEO sites)

I believe everyone should be allowed to own a gun. I also believe that they should be required to show competence with it before they are allowed to carry in society. No different than a drivers license, it's a minor inconvenience for the safety of the whole.

But then again this is another of those issues I see both sides of.

On one hand, having a "gun license" similar to a driver's license. Once you get it, after passing a few simple tests, you can own, buy and carry whatever you want.

The problem with that, especially in the US, is that owning a firearm is a RIGHT, not a privilege like driving a car.

Are there some people who should have that right removed? I dunno. In the US, there are groups of people we remove that right from. (Convicted felons, etc.) Is that OK?

Yes, we all see scary people with guns. But the right to own one and the right to have the most modern means available for self defense is just that, a right. Requiring ANYTHING to be done (training, etc..) prior to owning a firearm removes it from being a right and makes it a privilege.