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Musashi
02-21-2005, 07:58 AM
This article is for those of you who think Poles are anti-Semits. 19 Russian parliament members signed letter that accused Jews for all that's bad in Russia and compared them to satanists.


Anti-Semitism alarms Russian Jews

A Moscow synagogue echoes to the sound of morning worship.

Cocooned in black and white prayer shawls, the 300-strong congregation sways to the rhythm of Jewish prayer.

In Soviet times, Jews caught coming to synagogue risked losing their jobs or being expelled from university, such was the level of state-sponsored anti-Semitism.

Today, Russian Jews enjoy freedom of worship - but they are worried by what they see as a new wave of anti-Jewish sentiment emanating from the Duma, the lower house of the Russian parliament.

Last month, 19 members of the Duma threw their support behind a letter to the country's prosecutor general.

Claiming that a centuries-old Hebrew text incites violence, the letter compared Judaism to Satanism and accused Jews of ritual murder. It also called for all Jewish organisations in Russia to be investigated and banned.

"This is inciting anti-Semitism, it's against the law and these people should be banned from parliament," Russia's Chief Rabbi, Berl Lazar told me.

"The idea that even one member of parliament could sign a letter trying to expel the Jewish community completely from Russia, this is unheard of. Especially in recent years when, in general, we've felt that anti-Semitism from government officials has almost died out."

Public support

The Russian Jewish Congress says it is seeking legal advice and plans to take the MPs to court. But the parliamentarians are unrepentant. They've withdrawn the letter for now, but Communist MP Sergei Sobko says it will be re-drafted and re-submitted.

"Do they really think that by taking us to court the whole country will suddenly stop being anti-Semitic?" Mr Sobko said. "When our voters find out that their members of parliament are being threatened like this, the situation will grow worse."

Anti-Semitism has deep roots in Russia. Under the tsar, Jewish people were banned from living in huge swathes of the Russian empire. Anti-Semitism remained a government policy in the Soviet Union.

More recently, Russia's Jewish community has been enjoying a renaissance - with new freedoms, new schools and new synagogues opening up across the country.

President Vladimir Putin himself attended the opening of a Jewish community centre in Moscow four and a half years ago.

But anti-Jewish feelings remain widespread. When one of the MPs who signed the letter appeared on TV and blamed all of Russia's problems on the Jews, more than half of the 100,000 viewers who called in agreed with him.

Embarrassingly for Mr Putin, the letter appeared just days before his recent visit to Auschwitz, marking the 60th anniversary of the concentration camp's liberation. There, Mr Putin expressed his shame at anti-Semitism.

Scapegoat

But Tankred Golenpolsky, editor of Russia's Jewish Gazette, believes words aren't sufficient.

"Mr President, standing in front of the burial places in Auschwitz you said you were ashamed. Are you as ashamed today so as to get those members of the parliament who signed that Nazi letter out of the parliament?"

Eighty-four-year-old Petr Bograd says he finds the MPs' letter particularly insulting. A Jewish general in the Red Army, Mr Bograd fought against fascism in World War Two.

"It makes my heart ache to hear anti-Semitic talk like this," he told me. "Russian Jews risked their lives fighting for Russia - it's disgusting that we're seen now as the enemies."

Gen Bograd won more than 40 medals for his bravery. He's a war hero but today, he is made to feel more like a scapegoat for his country's problems.

Source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4271783.stm

wholagun
02-21-2005, 08:44 AM
Poles are not the worst biggest anti semites. People think b/c Poland had the largest Jewish population pre WWII. Why did we have the biggest Jewish population? Because in the 17the century when Jews were persecuted and put into gehtoes all around Europe, Poland was for them a safe haven. Jews had freedom and were tolerated. This is why Poland is refered as "The Second Promise Land" by the Jews.

In Israel in the park/forest where trees are planted in commemoration of people that helped Jews in wwII (not sure what its called). In that park half the trees are for Poles.

Musashi - I know you intention is not to create a thread that attacks Russians and other but this will turn out as most threads, unfortunetly.

Musashi
02-21-2005, 09:00 AM
Musashi - I know you intention is not to create a thread that attacks Russians and other but this will turn out as most threads, unfortunetly.
Sure, it was NOT my intention. I don't have anything against Russians :)

wholagun
02-21-2005, 09:19 AM
Musashi - I know you intention is not to create a thread that attacks Russians and other but this will turn out as most threads, unfortunetly.
Sure, it was NOT my intention. I don't have anything against Russians :)

it was an interesting article. It appears Russia is taking steps backwards not forward on many issues. hopefully Bush sends a stern message to Putin when they meet in slovakia.

Kitsune
02-21-2005, 01:22 PM
I find your new avatar especially disgusting, wholagun.
For some reason I find the usage of firearms against unarmed canines utterly despicable...

Consider yourself bashed. :bash:

Dima-RussianArms
02-21-2005, 01:41 PM
Old news, there was already a thread about it.

One thing was never mentioned: what prompted that bill?
Do you guys now?

DuDe
02-21-2005, 03:12 PM
One thing was never mentioned: what prompted that bill?

Good old idiocy?

sorwe
02-21-2005, 03:28 PM
Well one of the things most pro-jew people especially in Russia don't like to tell is that 85% of the Capitalistic take over of our home land IS by jewish men http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/capitalists.htm, the other thing they don't like to tell you is that the ENTIRE heads of the so called "Russian Mafia" ARE jews also even jewish authors themselves have addmitted this many times in 1990's http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/criruss.htm

BarkingSquirrel
02-21-2005, 03:31 PM
Why not get your sources from al jizeera while you're at it?

Dima-RussianArms
02-21-2005, 03:58 PM
One thing was never mentioned: what prompted that bill?

Good old idiocy?

Not quite. There was some important jewish book translated into Russian.
The word is that it is extremely racists and offensive in a lot of other ways.
Don't really know the details but it was that piece of literature that caused the commotion.

Rifleman
02-21-2005, 04:24 PM
One thing was never mentioned: what prompted that bill?

Good old idiocy?

Not quite. There was some important jewish book translated into Russian.
The word is that it is extremely racists and offensive in a lot of other ways.
Don't really know the details but it was that piece of literature that caused the commotion.

Please tell me you are not talking about "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" :roll:

rofl rofl rofl

Dima-RussianArms
02-21-2005, 04:30 PM
No, it was some other one.