American Ammo

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

Does anyone know which company produces the ammo for the M16/M4 and other weapons?

[Werewolf01]

Lots of companies. The main manufacturer is the Lake City ammo plant, headstamp LC.

[Frens]

Lots of companies. The main manufacturer is the Lake City ammo plant, headstamp LC.

+1 for Lake City. also IMI makes them ;)

[Dutchman2]

Some 5,56 X 45 mm manufactures;

-German DAG factory
-German MEN factory
-British Radway Green (RG headstamp)
-Canadian IVI (IVI headstamp)
-Swedish state aresenal, (070 headstamp)
-Danish state arsenal (AMA headstamp)
-Belgium Fabrique Nationale (FN or FNB headstamp)
-Austrian Hirtenberger company (HP headtsamp)
-Swiss factory
-Frensh State company (I believe FS headstamp)
-Dutch factory (NWM headstamp)
-Greek factory (HXP stamp)
-Italian state factory (SMI headstamp)
-Spanish factory (SB headstamp)
-Portuguese state factory (BF or FNM headstamp)

Maybe there are one ore two more in the world who make them :lol: ...

Greets,

Roger

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

Thanks a lot.

[TacoDelRio]

Federal, too.

Mostly Lake City, as stated before.

[Dutchman2]

and...

-Winchester (WCC)
-Bernauld (Russian)
-Wolf (Russian)
-PMP (PMP, South African)
-Tel Aviv ammo plant (TTZ headstamp)
-Singapore (HD headstamp)
-Lapua (Finish)
-Norma (Finish)
-IK (Igman, Yugoslavian)
-NNY (Yugolslavia)
-Sellier & Bellot, Tsjechoslowakije (S&B headstamp)
-RWS, germany
-Remington, USA
-Australia (ADF headstamp)

Theese factory's manufactures 5,56 X 45 Nato ammo. Though, not all does have Nato approvement ;) .

[Mrufka]

One more
Mesko (Poland) p-)

[scrybe]

Winchester Q3131A is produced in Isreal.

[MEGR]

I hear Wolf makes a great 5.56 round!

[HoboWithAK]

I hear Wolf makes a great 5.56 round!

I hear the AK-47 can shoot 1 MOA at a thousand yards!

[Frens]

I hear Wolf makes a great 5.56 round!

some say it's good, some say it's **** :|

[HoboWithAK]

It isn't a combat round. It isn't loaded hot enough to compare to M193 or M855.

[Mark Sman]

Check out Black Hills. They make several loads suitable for the 20 inch and forshorter barrels. Somenew stuff,and somereloadsofLake City that is awesome. The LC reload stuff is the equal ofthe Federal match stuff and way cheaper.

Note, some of the heavier bullet weights are not for the short barrels.

http://www.black-hills.com/

[MEGR]

It isn't a combat round. It isn't loaded hot enough to compare to M193 or M855.

I see where you're coming from. My comment was aimed more at civilian shooters rather than soldiers.

[HoboWithAK]

It's ok for plinking, and maybe as a list ditch cache combat round. The new polymer cases were a mistake, people who complained of the laquer melting were full of **** and didn't clean their rifles like normal. With laquer, you could store the ammo in salt water and it would be fine to shoot.

[Dutchman2]

I hear Wolf makes a great 5.56 round!

I hear the AK-47 can shoot 1 MOA at a thousand yards!

Please, give me an AK47 like that! It will otshoot highly expensive and highly accurized AR15's and M14's from the US Army and Marines :D !
No AK47 will even shoot 1 MOA at 50 yards! It's a relaible weapons system, but not suited for targetshooting.
BTW, shooting 1 MOA with military/ surplus or factory manufactured ammunition isn't possible. The only round that can meet 1 MOA conditions in a SEMIAUTOMATIC servicerifle, are the M852 'National Match ball' from Lake city (7,62 X 51mm), Lapua Match, MEN Match or the Federal Gold Medal ammo.

Greets,

Roger

[Rifleman]

BTW, shooting 1 MOA with military/ surplus or factory manufactured ammunition isn't possible.

I would have to disagree ;)

[HardThunder]

I hear Wolf makes a great 5.56 round!

I hear the AK-47 can shoot 1 MOA at a thousand yards!

Please, give me an AK47 like that! It will otshoot highly expensive and highly accurized AR15's and M14's from the US Army and Marines :D !
No AK47 will even shoot 1 MOA at 50 yards! It's a relaible weapons system, but not suited for targetshooting.
BTW, shooting 1 MOA with military/ surplus or factory manufactured ammunition isn't possible. The only round that can meet 1 MOA conditions in a SEMIAUTOMATIC servicerifle, are the M852 'National Match ball' from Lake city (7,62 X 51mm), Lapua Match, MEN Match or the Federal Gold Medal ammo.

Greets,

Roger

Your right that no AK-47, at lest nothing I have ever seen. My SKS out shoot all 7.62x39 that I have ever seen. The round is good, and almost all but Yugo, and Egypt ammo works well.

Many -- I hate the term gun-- weapons can do 1 moa, as can many round, by many makes. BUT most match shooters make the ammo they shoot.

Reloaders like myself are very strange.

[One_A]

Federal, too.

Mostly Lake City, as stated before.

Federal is owned by ATK, which runs Lake City.

[Dutchman2]

BTW, shooting 1 MOA with military/ surplus or factory manufactured ammunition isn't possible.

I would have to disagree ;)

Standard NATO ball in a semiautomatic service rifle? An accurized AR15 will come close, and a Swiss SIG PE90 (SIG 550) even closer, but 1 MOA? What rifle and ammo did you use?

Greets,

Roger

[Dutchman2]

BTW, shooting 1 MOA with military/ surplus or factory manufactured ammunition isn't possible.

I would have to disagree ;)

Standard NATO ball in a semiautomatic service rifle? An accurized AR15 will come close, and a Swiss SIG PE90 (SIG 550) even closer, but 1 MOA? What rifle and ammo did you use?

Greets,

Roger

BTW, theese are my best results, shot on 100 meters with my scoped M14 from a bench with Surplus ammo.

1) Chech ZV '69, 28mm (1,5 MOA)
2) Dutch A.I. '70, 39mm (2 MOA)
3) Singapore HD, 47mm (2,5 MOA)
4) Portuguese FNM '81, 65mm (3,4 MOA)
5) South African WA R1M1 '81 106mm (5,6 MOA)

My best result with handloaders;

27 mm (1,4 MOA)

-168 grain HPBT
-41,9 grain Vitha Vuori N140
-Lapua case
-OAL 72mm

Greets,

Roger
-Federal primer

[Durandal]

I likes me some Lake City...