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fantassin
02-24-2005, 02:56 AM
EADS seals $25bn UK air tanker deal

By Peter Spiegel in London

Published: February 23 2005 22:46 | Last updated: February 2

Airbus parent EADS has won the battle to secure "preferred bidder" status for a contract to supply a $25bn (£13bn) fleet of air-to-air refuelling tankers to the UK's Royal Air Force. The deal is critical to EADS's push to break Boeing's global monopoly on military refuelling.

The announcement, bringing more than a year of intense and sometimes rancorous negotiations to a close, is expected early next week. Although it will fall short of an official contract signing, people briefed on the decision said the MoD would name the EADS-led partnership AirTanker as the programme's preferred bidder.

This would clear the way for the consortium to seek bank financing for the project.

The MoD would only say the ministry expected an announcement soon, and AirTanker declined to comment on timing, saying: "We remain optimistic."

AirTanker was originally selected to supply the RAF with more than a dozen refitted A330s in January 2004, following intense competition with Boeing.

It had been expected that "preferred bidder" status would be awarded after about three months of talks but disputes between EADS, the MoD and the Treasury over the deal's terms threatened to kill it. In letters obtained by the Financial Times last year, Sir Peter Spencer, head of MoD procurement, repeatedly threatened to abandon the talks because of EADS's refusal to shoulder more risk if the aircraft failed to perform.

People briefed on next week's announcement said the decision to move forward indicated that differences over termshad largely been ironed out. It also signals the Treasury's support.

The biggest prize in the tanker battle remains the US Air Force, which is expected to begin ordering as many as 500 aircraft before the end of the decade. Boeing had won an initial contract to convert 100 767s into tankers, but the deal collapsed after revelations that a senior air force procurement official illegally steered the contract to Boeing in return for a job.

The UK's decision to move forward with its A330 programme comes as EADS seeks a manufacturing site in preparation for a bid to convert A330s into tankers for the US air force. Without a signed contract in the UK, the Franco-German group - which faces congressional opposition as a foreign company - would have found it very difficult to convince the Pentagon its bid is credible.

A decision on requesting bids for the US air force contract is not expected to come until the middle of the year, when a study by Rand on tanker options is completed. Boeing officials have said they may need to shut down its 767 line in June if no decision has been made by then.

Under the UK deal's terms, AirTanker will own the aircraft and the RAF will lease them when needed. Sir Peter, backed by the Treasury, had refused to agree a deal without EADS taking the full risks of ownership.

EADS must now raise financing for the aircraft, which could delay final agreement by more than a year.


http://news.ft.com/cms/s/655e17f0-85e7-11d9-9011-00000e2511c8.html

Stolly
02-24-2005, 04:34 AM
Good for EADS.

Kitsune
02-24-2005, 04:44 AM
And bad for Boeing.

roland
02-24-2005, 06:54 AM
good but if I understand well, not done yet



Airbus parent EADS has won the battle to secure "preferred bidder" status for a contract to supply a $25bn (£13bn) fleet of air-to-air refuelling tankers to the UK's Royal Air Force.

sp2c
02-24-2005, 06:59 AM
afaik it's like a memorandum of understanding something has to go very wrong now if EADS is not going to get it now.

anyways I really don't care either way ... which one has the better tanker?
and what do they both cost?

rafaelcb
02-24-2005, 09:16 AM
Without a signed contract in the UK, the Franco-German group - which faces congressional opposition as a foreign company -


Last time I checked, EADS was a Franco-German-Spanish company. :roll:

10 July 2000: "Day One" for EADSA new era in aerospace mergers begins with the official start of operations for Europe’s largest aerospace company. EADS is offering 30% of its shares on the Frankfurt, Madrid and Paris stock exchanges. The Lagardère Group together with the French state holds a 30% share, DaimlerChrysler also holds 30% and the Spanish SEPI a 5.5% share. Existing Aerospatiale Matra shares will be exchanged for EADS shares at a 1:1 ratio.

futurepilot2004
02-24-2005, 09:18 AM
Airbus rock woot

Stolly
02-24-2005, 10:04 AM
If Daimler-Chrysler own 30% doesn't that mean its a Franco-German-Spanish-American company ?

Siddar
02-24-2005, 11:20 AM
UK is being ripped off on this deal paying five times the going rate that other countrys have paid for tankers.

tooms
02-24-2005, 12:06 PM
If Daimler-Chrysler own 30% doesn't that mean its a Franco-German-Spanish-American company ?

Does Chrysler own Daimler ?

Malc
02-24-2005, 12:23 PM
Well at least this means getting rid of the old VC10's and Tristars.

fantassin
02-24-2005, 12:30 PM
It's not a rip off, it's a deal over more than 30 years which includes training the crews, maintenance and so on for the duration of the lives of the A-330 tankers.

Stolly
02-24-2005, 03:10 PM
If Daimler-Chrysler own 30% doesn't that mean its a Franco-German-Spanish-American company ?

Does Chrysler own Daimler ?

No, I seem to recall they merged.

Stolly
02-24-2005, 03:15 PM
UK is being ripped off on this deal paying five times the going rate that other countrys have paid for tankers.

Really ?

Who else has leased 12 A330 tankers for $5 billion ?

Or 12 767's ?