View Full Version : Firefox 1.0.1 is out!
FFanatic
02-25-2005, 01:54 AM
Firefox 1.0.1 is out!
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
Here's what's new in Firefox 1.0.1:
Improved stability
International Domain Names are now displayed as punycode.
To show International Domain Names in Unicode, set the "network.IDN_show_punycode" preference to false.
Several security fixes. (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html)
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 01:55 AM
just overrides 1.0?
James
02-25-2005, 01:55 AM
I don't know what that is...
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 01:56 AM
just downloaded........
Thanks for updating us woot
wildernesswhore
02-25-2005, 02:02 AM
If I install this will it kill all of my settings/ favourites. I have like 1000 favourites.
Rilence
02-25-2005, 02:06 AM
^^^^^
yeah i was about to ask the samething.
Mark Sman
02-25-2005, 02:15 AM
Retained all my setiings from FireFox 1.0.
If you are upgrading from Mozilla, it will import all your ractheta ratcheta.
Go ahead and make this upgrade, or clean install. Firefox is a good product that beats the heck outta IE, and most other browsers.
The only thing I miss is the old Mozilla logo. Fire-breathing Lizards are cool. A fox chasing its own tail (while apropriate for web surfing), not so cool.
DarkCypher
02-25-2005, 02:24 AM
I don't know what that is...
It's an alternative browser to Internet Explorer.
James
02-25-2005, 02:47 AM
I don't know what that is...
It's an alternative browser to Internet Explorer.
Well F*ck that!
wildernesswhore
02-25-2005, 02:55 AM
So much better the IE... been using FF for almost a year now.
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 06:21 AM
Firefox shocks my bollocks woot
Rantanplan
02-25-2005, 07:36 AM
Damn Firefox fanboys...
So what do you use, brieboy?
Silverdragon
02-25-2005, 08:09 AM
Damn Firefox fanboys...
So what do you use, brieboy?
IE...
Scottie
02-25-2005, 08:10 AM
where the hell can i download it??? i press Free Download and it just gives me 1.0.??
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 08:59 AM
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
Operation Ivy
02-25-2005, 09:00 AM
avant! woot
Heinzi
02-25-2005, 09:05 AM
avant! woot woot
But i use Mozilla, too ;)
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
Ever heard of using both Spybot and Spywareblaster? Immunization rocks. :P
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 09:22 AM
where the hell can i download it??? i press Free Download and it just gives me 1.0.??
hhmm, that's weird. When i clicked on that link last night it said 1.0.1
Herrmannek
02-25-2005, 09:26 AM
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
Ever heard of using both Spybot and Spywareblaster? Immunization rocks. :P
Why to patch flawed software if you can use good one...
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
Ever heard of using both Spybot and Spywareblaster? Immunization rocks. :P
Why to patch flawed software if you can use good one...
Because not everything about Firefox is perfect. Speed is sometimes actually slower than IE, and when pages aren't coded perfectly they become mutilated while IE can make something decent of it.
Herrmannek
02-25-2005, 09:47 AM
and when pages aren't coded perfectly they become mutilated while IE can make something decent of it.
:cantbeli: , When page look good in IE and bad elswhere its not point for IE, its point against both IE and webdesigner.
IE has so flawed rendering engine, so something proprly coded and folowing international standars will look bad in it, so poor webdesigners(90% of all designers)choose lame way by designing their page to look good in IE only. To make that they break standards because making page looking good both in IE and good engines demands little more skill and time...
Because of IE we have now thousands of badly coded pages by poor designers and good designers have to do twice the work so their pages look good in IE and other Browsers... IE is ****
and when pages aren't coded perfectly they become mutilated while IE can make something decent of it.
:cantbeli: , When page look good in IE and bad elswhere its not point for IE, its point against both IE and webdesigner.
IE has so flawed rendering engine, so something proprly coded and folowing international standars will look bad in it, so poor webdesigners(90% of all designers)choose lame way by designing their page to look good in IE only. To make that they break standards because making page looking good both in IE and good engines demands little more skill and time...
Because of IE we have now thousands of badly coded pages by poor designers and good designers have to do twice the work so their pages look good in IE and other Browsers... IE is ****
Bla bla ****ing bla.
End result? No matter which way you turn it, pages look better in IE. PERIOD. No one cares about all the details behind it, it just doesn't look butchered in IE.
If I install this will it kill all of my settings/ favourites. I have like 1000 favourites.
no it wont
Herrmannek
02-25-2005, 10:04 AM
and when pages aren't coded perfectly they become mutilated while IE can make something decent of it.
:cantbeli: , When page look good in IE and bad elswhere its not point for IE, its point against both IE and webdesigner.
IE has so flawed rendering engine, so something proprly coded and folowing international standars will look bad in it, so poor webdesigners(90% of all designers)choose lame way by designing their page to look good in IE only. To make that they break standards because making page looking good both in IE and good engines demands little more skill and time...
Because of IE we have now thousands of badly coded pages by poor designers and good designers have to do twice the work so their pages look good in IE and other Browsers... IE is ****
Bla bla f*** bla.
End result? No matter which way you turn it, pages look better in IE. PERIOD. No one cares about all the details behind it, it just doesn't look butchered in IE.
And you dared to call me backward? :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
Rantanplan
02-25-2005, 10:23 AM
avant! woot woot
But i use Mozilla, too ;)
Nice 'Tar ;)
von_Moo142
02-25-2005, 10:47 AM
Improved stability
Impressive. I look after firefox installs on a few machines, and I can only recall one crash.
No one cares about all the details behind it, it just doesn't look butchered in IE.
Like you said, few people care about the details. But because of the emergance of firefox as the best browser, we should start to see less pages that only look good in IE.
futurepilot2004
02-25-2005, 10:50 AM
yay woot just got it no. IE sucks balls
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
amen...IE sucks...MS needs to stop being so arrogant and start putting products out that work well...
Herrmannek
02-25-2005, 11:06 AM
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
amen...IE sucks...MS needs to stop being so arrogant and start putting products out that work well...
With people like HAiw the may never need to :)
and when pages aren't coded perfectly they become mutilated while IE can make something decent of it.
:cantbeli: , When page look good in IE and bad elswhere its not point for IE, its point against both IE and webdesigner.
IE has so flawed rendering engine, so something proprly coded and folowing international standars will look bad in it, so poor webdesigners(90% of all designers)choose lame way by designing their page to look good in IE only. To make that they break standards because making page looking good both in IE and good engines demands little more skill and time...
Because of IE we have now thousands of badly coded pages by poor designers and good designers have to do twice the work so their pages look good in IE and other Browsers... IE is ****
Bla bla f*** bla.
End result? No matter which way you turn it, pages look better in IE. PERIOD. No one cares about all the details behind it, it just doesn't look butchered in IE.
And you dared to call me backward? :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
Yes. For the end-user it's not about the method, but the result.
Like you said, few people care about the details. But because of the emergance of firefox as the best browser, we should start to see less pages that only look good in IE.
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
It is idiotic to use internet explorer. So many security holes, so many opportunities for SpyWare installation. Use firefox. It's great.
amen...IE sucks...MS needs to stop being so arrogant and start putting products out that work well...
With people like HAiw the may never need to :)
I'm no big fan of MS but bashing their **** is becoming a lame fad... you know it doesn't necessarily completely suck because it has MS in front of it... :roll:
von_Moo142
02-25-2005, 11:44 AM
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
I'm sure you're right. But its popularity is growing, and growth is everything ;-)
There are similarities to Linux at the moment too. Not the most popular OS, that's for sure. But creative people produce a disproportionate amout of open source software for it because it's the OS that they prefer. Whilst it's still much less popular than IE but a better browser in many ways, firefox is going to pick up a disproportionate amout of creative people who have the content for a website.
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 11:47 AM
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
I'm sure you're right. But its popularity is growing, and growth is everything ;-)
There are similarities to Linux at the moment too. Not the most popular OS, that's for sure. But creative people produce a disproportionate amout of open source software for it because it's the OS that they prefer. Whilst it's still much less popular than IE but a better browser in many ways, firefox is going to pick up a disproportionate amout of creative people who have the content for a website.
I read Haiw's posts on this topic regarding Firefox vs IE and all I read is "Blah to the Blah. I Blah and Blah Blah..............."
We all now Firefox is the ownage. The masses of ignorant people will convert :lol:
von_Moo142
02-25-2005, 11:49 AM
The masses of ignorant people will convert :lol:
I'm with you there, comrade p-)
Herrmannek
02-25-2005, 12:00 PM
I'm no big fan of MS but bashing their **** is becoming a lame fad... you know it doesn't necessarily completely suck because it has MS in front of it... :roll:
I'm far from being MS basher... I bash IE because i have to make walk arounds where i shoul be able to go by straight road, because it behave unexpetedly, because it is incorporated into system to the extent that sometimes crash of IE alone can crash whole your computer, and many more...
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 12:05 PM
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
Try 23-30% of the total public browsing the internet...
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 12:08 PM
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
Try 23-30% of the total public browsing the internet...
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
http://forumspam.articblue.nl/user_related/owned/images/0285.jpg
Heinzi
02-25-2005, 12:19 PM
avant! woot woot
But i use Mozilla, too ;)
Nice 'Tar ;)
I know ;)
I like yours. Reminds me of somebody :lol:
wulfstan
02-25-2005, 12:19 PM
I use Opera, i think it's a sister browser of mozilla, is that right?
aleczapka
02-25-2005, 01:22 PM
where the hell can i download it??? i press Free Download and it just gives me 1.0.??
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/all.html
not all of them has 1.0.1, check
FFanatic
02-25-2005, 02:06 PM
I'm no big fan of MS but bashing their **** is becoming a lame fad... you know it doesn't necessarily completely suck because it has MS in front of it...
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners."
Sry. Just had to. :) woot
samjung23
02-25-2005, 02:20 PM
I honestly can't see the difference between Firefox and IE...in fact, I think IE is a lot more refined than Firefox...I'm no computer nerd...just a casual surfer...
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 02:21 PM
just a casual surfer...
And that's why you don't know the big differences ;)
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
Try 23-30% of the total public browsing the internet...
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Interesting... there's lies, big lies and statistics...
According to Onestat.com in november the total share of Firefox came to 4.58%. In your statistics they're over 20. Interesting... :roll: Would you mind if I consider my source more realistic? ;)
P.S. Your statistics were mainly compiled from the logs of that site. Considering it's a geek site it's not surprising to see Firefox score so high. ;)
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 03:04 PM
Any idea how little people use Firefox? It's still less than 5% of the total public browsing the internet...
Try 23-30% of the total public browsing the internet...
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Interesting... there's lies, big lies and statistics...
According to Onestat.com in november the total share of Firefox came to 4.58%. In your statistics they're over 20. Interesting... :roll: Would you mind if I consider my source more realistic? ;)
No, Haiw, I can back what Seoulstriker posted. I've read stats on the Internet about this as well. It's about approximately 25% that use FF. It's a fact.
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 03:07 PM
Interesting... there's lies, big lies and statistics...
According to Onestat.com in november the total share of Firefox came to 4.58%. In your statistics they're over 20. Interesting... :roll: Would you mind if I consider my source more realistic? ;)
Your source is not actually correct, because there is indeed 20-30% of the browser market cornered by mozilla. You probably are thinking that 4% is mozilla, which is correct, but FireFox is separate from Mozilla, even though it's called Mozilla Firefox. I don't know anyone else in my dorm now who is using IE. I wouldn't be surprised if Firefox takes up 50% next year.
Maybe they came from the same bad source? Also read the last part I edited in... either one of our sources must be wrong, and yours already has a disclaimer saying it might be giving warped statistics. ;)
You probably are thinking that 4% is mozilla, which is correct, but FireFox is separate from Mozilla, even though it's called Mozilla Firefox.
Dude, I know that... I'm not retarded. 4.58% is what it came up with. Mozilla itself had 2.77% Seriously, maybe in geekland Firefox usage is high, but the sheer majority of internet users are still the simple browsers who wouldn't even think of getting another browser. On top of that, loads of big institutions, education places, etc. still stick with IE. So maybe in your 'social environment' it might be different, but if you look at a global scale and consider all internet users then saying Firefox is 20% is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge exaggeration.
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 03:13 PM
Maybe they came from the same bad source? Also read the last part I edited in... either one of our sources must be wrong, and yours already has a disclaimer saying it might be giving warped statistics. ;)
There was broader research performed by another organization which involved collecting browser statistics from a very large number of web sites. They did proper statistical analysis to make sure confounding variables were not distorting the statistics. That study showed similar results to the link I posted. I wish I could find it now.
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/48634?highlight=firefox
From end of november 2004, but no way in hell could it suddenly multiply 4 times in 4 months...
Microsoft IE 6.0 - 80,95 procent
Microsoft IE 5.0 - 4,18 procent
Microsoft IE 5.5 - 3,66 procent
Mozilla Firefox 0.1 - 2,79 procent
Mozilla 1.x - 2,77 procent
Mozilla Firefox 1.0 - 1,79 procent
Opera 7.x - 1,29 procent
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 03:19 PM
Those statistics are wrong.
And since when have you become a MS shill? :)
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 03:26 PM
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Well, what did you expect me to say? Your statistics are just plain wrong. They're from a .nl website (no offense) that doesn't hold any credibility.
FireFox is so many times more secure, efficient than IE. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that? It's not a fad. Just wait until it hits 50%. It's spreading like a fire. ;)
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Well, what did you expect me to say? Your statistics are just plain wrong. They're from a .nl website (no offense) that doesn't hold any credibility.
FireFox is so many times more secure, efficient than IE. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that? It's not a fad. Just wait until it hits 50%. It's spreading like a fire. ;)
The NL domain is only where I remembered where the link was... that site wasn't the author. ;)
And we'll see who laughs last... don't hold your breath untill FF reaches 50%... wouldn't want this to be your last. :D
Maine Finn
02-25-2005, 03:42 PM
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Well, what did you expect me to say? Your statistics are just plain wrong. They're from a .nl website (no offense) that doesn't hold any credibility.
FireFox is so many times more secure, efficient than IE. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that? It's not a fad. Just wait until it hits 50%. It's spreading like a fire. ;)
I wouldn't use it again to save my life. FireFox gave me nothing but trouble. It tied up my connection speed and constantly was unable to "find" site addresses like MSN.com. After less than a day of that crap I gave up.
IE may have it's share of troubles, but at least it goes where I tell it to.
Howie Kaluha
02-25-2005, 03:43 PM
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Well, what did you expect me to say? Your statistics are just plain wrong. They're from a .nl website (no offense) that doesn't hold any credibility.
FireFox is so many times more secure, efficient than IE. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that? It's not a fad. Just wait until it hits 50%. It's spreading like a fire. ;)
I wouldn't use it again to save my life. FireFox gave me nothing but trouble. It tied up my connection speed and constantly was unable to "find" site addresses like MSN.com. After less than a day of that crap I gave up.
IE may have it's share of troubles, but at least it goes where I tell it to.
hhmm, weird issues. I've never experienced any of those problems.
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 03:46 PM
I wouldn't use it again to save my life. FireFox gave me nothing but trouble. It tied up my connection speed and constantly was unable to "find" site addresses like MSN.com. After less than a day of that crap I gave up.
IE may have it's share of troubles, but at least it goes where I tell it to.
Why don't you try downloading it again (http://www.getfirefox.com)? It's at version 1.0.1 now.
Maine Finn
02-25-2005, 03:47 PM
I wouldn't use it again to save my life. FireFox gave me nothing but trouble. It tied up my connection speed and constantly was unable to "find" site addresses like MSN.com. After less than a day of that crap I gave up.
IE may have it's share of troubles, but at least it goes where I tell it to.
Why don't you try downloading it again (http://www.getfirefox.com)? It's at version 1.0.1 now.
Hmm, no thanks. Once bitten, twice shy.
Seoulstriker
02-25-2005, 03:49 PM
That's idiotic. FireFox works great. You were just having problems with your computer back then.
Maine Finn
02-25-2005, 03:54 PM
That's idiotic. FireFox works great. You were just having problems with your computer back then.
That may be so, but I'm not in a hurry to change browsers when the one I'm using works just fine.
samjung23
02-25-2005, 06:53 PM
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Well, what did you expect me to say? Your statistics are just plain wrong. They're from a .nl website (no offense) that doesn't hold any credibility.
FireFox is so many times more secure, efficient than IE. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that? It's not a fad. Just wait until it hits 50%. It's spreading like a fire. ;)
I wouldn't use it again to save my life. FireFox gave me nothing but trouble. It tied up my connection speed and constantly was unable to "find" site addresses like MSN.com. After less than a day of that crap I gave up.
IE may have it's share of troubles, but at least it goes where I tell it to.
You are so right. The phrase "If it ain't broke, why fix it" so applies to IE. I had problems too with a couple sites with Firefox, in addition to it operating like an early 90's edition of Internet Explorer, what was that POS called before Win 95, Win 3.0?
I really don't understand the hype behind IE. I think the geek chic group just thinks the world of Firefox because it's not Microsoft...whatever. I think IE is world's better...in terms of functionality, looks...hey, IE is free and Microsoft doesn't profit from me using it at all...what do I care?
DarkCypher
02-25-2005, 06:59 PM
I use Firefox and Thunderbird, the only Microsoft products installed on my PC is Direct X and Windows xp.
1.0.1 seems to be a lot faster too.
FFanatic
02-25-2005, 09:58 PM
During the last couple of year my main browser has been IE, Opera and Firefox. They've all done the job pretty well. I've never had any spyware crap with any of them. If you keep your browser updated and don't click yes on every site that wants to install some stuff they are all pretty ok.
What makes Firefox better to me atm is it's well ordered usability and customizability.
Let's hope that now with some competition on browser market also MS starts to develop it's browser. So an average comp user can have as easy browsing experience as possible. :)
Herrmannek
02-26-2005, 05:45 AM
Nice argumentation there... so basically you have totally nothing to hold against my stats. ;)
Never been an MS fanboy, never will be probably, but that doesn't mean I can't be fair to them... they might be a ****ty company sometimes, but PCs today would probably never as good as they are. And I've never been too much of a fan of Firefox... IMO it's a bit of a fad, and it doesn't really make much of a difference whether you use IE or FF.
Well, what did you expect me to say? Your statistics are just plain wrong. They're from a .nl website (no offense) that doesn't hold any credibility.
FireFox is so many times more secure, efficient than IE. Why wouldn't anyone want to use that? It's not a fad. Just wait until it hits 50%. It's spreading like a fire. ;)
I wouldn't use it again to save my life. FireFox gave me nothing but trouble. It tied up my connection speed and constantly was unable to "find" site addresses like MSN.com. After less than a day of that crap I gave up.
IE may have it's share of troubles, but at least it goes where I tell it to.
:cantbeli: , You can't browse msn with firefox not because of firefox fault but because msn is sponsored by MS and they purposly use videoplugins that are made only for IE so they don'y work with firefox even under windows. It also seems that you could be to lame to setup your firewall corectly and thats yours fault not firefox. Being shmondack is not an argument against firefox but rather against user and disqualifies you from the discussion....
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