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gangan
02-28-2005, 06:54 AM
http://www.warriormindset.com/Videos/Negligence.mpg
:roll:

sp2c
02-28-2005, 06:57 AM
how did she manage to miss the guy at that range :lol:

Millen
02-28-2005, 07:12 AM
:lol: :lol: her boss going to like that

ZeroPositive
02-28-2005, 07:22 AM
uber old...

kayaker
02-28-2005, 09:58 AM
scary ****...

machupichu
02-28-2005, 10:24 AM
lol, this is insane. one black bulldozer on top, two guys standing around and another policecar arriving and that woman needs to aim her gun at the suspect. i suppose thats what the second cop is supposed to do in america, covering with his weapon aiming at suspect. this is wild west. does anybody know if such a rule exist in europe too?

RGRBOX
02-28-2005, 10:33 AM
How braindead can one person be??? She missed the first day of ASAA class when they talked about the 4 rules of security...

D.Sigurdsson
02-28-2005, 11:38 AM
rofl rofl rofl rofl
Why the f**k did she have her finger on the trigger? the subject was under control (under a big black guy :P )

wulfstan
02-28-2005, 11:46 AM
She fired into the tarmac? I wonder where the round went, could have nailed the perp or her colleague! And on tape too!

EvanL
02-28-2005, 11:55 AM
the scary thing is when you look at the video. Look at where shes covering her partner from. Directly in front of him! She has him in her sights! It shows lack of responsibillity on this officers behalf. She put the suspect and her partners lives at risk. not too mention she had her finger on the trigger to boot.

Hawkeye
02-28-2005, 11:57 AM
the scary thing is when you look at the video. Look at where shes covering her partner from. Directly in front of him! She has him in her sights! It shows lack of responsibillity on this officers behalf. She put the suspect and her partners lives at risk. not too mention she had her finger on the trigger to boot.

I was thinking the same thing

RGRBOX
02-28-2005, 12:06 PM
the scary thing is when you look at the video. Look at where shes covering her partner from. Directly in front of him! She has him in her sights! It shows lack of responsibillity on this officers behalf. She put the suspect and her partners lives at risk. not too mention she had her finger on the trigger to boot.

Like I said, she was absent during that days training... :cantbeli:

Macs.
02-28-2005, 12:13 PM
She should get a job in a office, but never ever give that woman a gun...

The situation was under control, the criminal didn't have a weapon, and last but not least a big black dude on his back.

Why does she even need to pull out her gun ?!?

Freibier
02-28-2005, 12:16 PM
:cantbeli:
I hope the suspect sued the **** out of her

EvanL
02-28-2005, 12:17 PM
:cantbeli:
I hope the suspect sued the **** out of herohh after that the guy wouldnt even have been charged.

Fliptape
02-28-2005, 12:22 PM
the best part is when she holsters the weapon after the shot :)

Heinzi
02-28-2005, 12:29 PM
the best part is when she holsters the weapon after the shot :)
?
I dont see that on this 2s clip.

edit: something went wrong, on my hd its only 700k.

Q
02-28-2005, 01:55 PM
One would think that cops have the proper training in use of firearms

Haiw
02-28-2005, 01:56 PM
Royal Mudmarines.

Jobu
02-28-2005, 02:02 PM
While the vast majority of cops may be good people, it's not really a profession known to be full of the most intelligent people.

hO_oah
02-28-2005, 02:12 PM
i've seen this vid long time ago.. how can something like that happen :roll:

Maine Finn
02-28-2005, 02:15 PM
While the vast majority of cops may be good people, it's not really a profession known to be full of the most intelligent people.

The average police officer isn't a rocket scientist. That's true.

Officers need to be problem-solvers and critical thinkers more than they need to be a Harvard graduate with an off-the-charts IQ. Yes, sometimes bad apples slip through the cracks and it's unfortunate that that occurs.

However, to many officers, it's not so much a profession as it is a calling. The same can be said for firefighters, paramedics, soldiers, and the like. I'd rather have an officer backing me up who knows how to do The Job backwards and forwards and won't hesitate to act on gut instincts and training as opposed to an officer who over-thinks the situation and does nothing.

Q
02-28-2005, 02:15 PM
Hmm in Norway it's a 3 year higher education to become a police officer, on the national police acadamy

walford
02-28-2005, 02:42 PM
I've seen the video before and have just now watched it several times again. Having seen a lot of similar situations on COPS, it seems that covering a detainee with a sidearm until both cuffs are plainly secured is SOP.

It doesn't seem that her index finger is in the trigger guard. It is possible that the weapon accidentally discharged. [You can tell that she was surprised also.] That is one of the problems of a semi-auto vs. a revolver -- which do not need a safety because they're inherently safe.

The fact that the projectile did not strike anyone gives indication that she may have deliberately had the weapon pointing slightly off.

For me, there’s doubt. I still think a revolver is better for police use, but hardly any use them anymore.

<Gypsum Fantastic>
02-28-2005, 04:41 PM
I've seen the video before and have just now watched it several times again. Having seen a lot of similar situations on COPS, it seems that covering a detainee with a sidearm until both cuffs are plainly secured is SOP.

It doesn't seem that her index finger is in the trigger guard. It is possible that the weapon accidentally discharged. [You can tell that she was surprised also.] That is one of the problems of a semi-auto vs. a revolver -- which do not need a safety because they're inherently safe.

The fact that the projectile did not strike anyone gives indication that she may have deliberately had the weapon pointing slightly off.

For me, there’s doubt. I still think a revolver is better for police use, but hardly any use them anymore.

Good point....

wulfstan
02-28-2005, 04:50 PM
I've seen the video before and have just now watched it several times again. Having seen a lot of similar situations on COPS, it seems that covering a detainee with a sidearm until both cuffs are plainly secured is SOP.

It doesn't seem that her index finger is in the trigger guard. It is possible that the weapon accidentally discharged. [You can tell that she was surprised also.] That is one of the problems of a semi-auto vs. a revolver -- which do not need a safety because they're inherently safe.

The fact that the projectile did not strike anyone gives indication that she may have deliberately had the weapon pointing slightly off.

For me, there’s doubt. I still think a revolver is better for police use, but hardly any use them anymore.

That's cos with a handgun you can hold it sideways and look cool, as well as blat off between 7 and 15 rounds at a perp, lol.

JQ24
02-28-2005, 05:03 PM
"Oops, sorry I missed!"

EvanL
02-28-2005, 09:12 PM
Hmm in Norway it's a 3 year higher education to become a police officer, on the national police acadamy
pretty much the same in Canada
im doing that right now but its a 2year college course.

disabled1
03-01-2005, 12:53 AM
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT

coughybean
03-01-2005, 02:26 AM
I watched the video several times and her finger is clearly on the trigger. she takes her finger out of the trigger gaurd as soon as the gun goes off. I don't see how she could have pulled the trigger hard enough to accidentaly fire unless her trigger was set to single action pull. If the gun was in double action mode like it should have been, I doubt that would have happend. And I wouldn't be suprised if she forgot to decock it before holstering. You can see that she has poor firearms training by the way she is cupping the bottom of the gun with her support hand.. . but then some people just don't belong with a gun in their hands. The other day at the pistol range my brother saw a woman who was testing her laser sight by pointing her gun at the palm of her hand, and with her other hand she was holding the gun with her finger on the trigger, a round in the chamber, and the safety off. . . He told her, if you're going to do that, you need to take your finger off the trigger or else they're going to be cleaning your hand off the table later. :cantbeli:

FallenAngel
03-01-2005, 04:21 AM
I've seen the video before and have just now watched it several times again. Having seen a lot of similar situations on COPS, it seems that covering a detainee with a sidearm until both cuffs are plainly secured is SOP.

It doesn't seem that her index finger is in the trigger guard. It is possible that the weapon accidentally discharged. [You can tell that she was surprised also.] That is one of the problems of a semi-auto vs. a revolver -- which do not need a safety because they're inherently safe.

The fact that the projectile did not strike anyone gives indication that she may have deliberately had the weapon pointing slightly off.

For me, there’s doubt. I still think a revolver is better for police use, but hardly any use them anymore.

California police departments started going to automatics after the Newhall Incident where 4 CHP officers were killed during a felony traffic stop. The last two to be killed were shot while they were attempting to reload their revolvers.