More Aljazeera incitement

[jdbjdb]

Shocking images shame US forces in Iraq

Fearful women and children bound by US soldiers in their home

A series of shocking pictures revealing US soldiers tying up Iraqi women and children in their own home has provoked international outrage.

The occupying forces have now come under renewed fire for their treatment of ordinary Iraqis as shown in the pictures published today by Aljazeera.net.

CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, is conducting an investigation and seeking advice before taking further action.

"This kind of image increases resentment of American troops in Iraq and can also play a major part in demoralising troops who are having to tie up small children.

"We are seeking to raise this issue further in the appropriate arena," said Washington CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.

A spokesman for the London-based Islamic Observation Centre said the pictures showed a "complete disregard for the human rights of the Iraqi people".

A child, aged around six, watches
nervously as US soldier ties her

He added: "A normal human being should be repulsed by the very idea of tying up children.

[jizzmonkey]

For being the oldest civilization, the arab world seems very behind the times. Tribal codes of conduct seem the preffered method of dealing with intrapersonal disagreements, and as so, our unconventional approach in dealing with the iraqi public doesnt parallel what would be acceptable here in the U.S., but its a must for force protection to do things like restraining bystanders in a raid, even if they are kids.

****ed up circumstances call for ****ed up meassures.

just another dumb grunt

[Haiw]

ye but isn't tying up CHILDREN kinda extreme? i mean, searching em is one thing, but tying em up? :roll:

[ShotOver]

Not to say this is another Vietnam, but in Vietnam they used to get the children to blow themselves up when the Americans came.

So, stuff them all. Can't trust a single on of them.

[duck]

You mean the Jews?

Edit: This is not meant as an anti-semitic statement of any kind, I'm sometimes just surprised how anti-jewish bias is strongly condemned while at the same time...

[Adri]

btw found the page on aljazeera:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/6B135A01-B99C-41C1-B36A-53197281D21E.htm

[WARPIG]

I handcuffed my nephews with flexicuffs this summer.. I hope they are not traumaitized by my warmongering actions.

I also saw a photo of Saddam and Osama together holding hands. Hmmm those rumors of them adopting a shaved baby ape together must be true to.

Even if the photos are not being taken out of context.. who should be more ashamed here... the soldier that has to search and handcuff children because he fears that they are rigged with explosives or weapons... or the man who straps weapons and explosives to his child so he won't get caught with them or so he won't have to explode himself.
Think of what overwhelming reactions would occur if a little girl was wearing a blanket bomb she didn't know of and while going past a coalition checkpoint is detonated, killing troops. Is this a huge exaggeration? Why do blanket and pillow bombs exist then. Why are strollers and baby carriers scrutinized so much in airports?
Don't be shocked of troops searching children.. be angered at why they have too.

[Uncle Sam]

HMMM..In a place where "Women" and "Children" can KILL you..HMMM...Flexcuffs...YEP !!!!

[Argyll]

Aye but you don't see kids being flexi cuffed at airports do you?
When I was in the Army,searching women and kids was taboo for the Infantryman,that job was done by female RUC,or RMP!.
Whilst I can appreciate the reasons, I think,but if this is what every US soldier thinks in Iraq,then there are serious issues here,1st off you got to remember that it is their country and that you are merely a guest.
2nd IF and a big IF intell is reporting that these kids are suspect,where does that intel come from?Pissed of neighbours,personal scores to settle,these delicate cases should be dealt with by Iraqi Police,whilst the US troops provide the cordon......think hearts and minds.
The more the locals see this type of actions,the more they grow resentful,and who will take the blame?
Lastly how would you react if the local SWAT team bust into your house,manhandled you,your wife and your young family,in the wee small hours of the morning,would you feel happy if your 5 year old kid was flexi'd,for what seemed like no reason,other than to protect the SWAT team................you're damn right you'd be angry and pissed off,and anyone who says different is an out and out liar!!!


RIP Cord...........Women and children have never committed murders in the States?..............Every country in the world has a potential for what you quoted!!

[Uncle Sam]

I can agree with you Agryll...I am a Former Infantryman...I was thinking like that when I wrote this post. I would not want to get shot, or blown up, or killed in any way, or have my buddies get the same. I was merely thinking of the safety and security of myself and my buddies. Anyway, how many women or children blew themselves up lately in the US???

[California Joe]

Nah, don't flexcuff them, throw them in wood chippers.

Oh wait we AREN'T the Iraqis.

PS I just had 5, 11 year old girls here on a sleepover. Not one was killed, maimed or sold into slavery. I'm better than the the ruling family of Iraq.

[Argyll]

Ok then seeing as you're both on a role,how many kids you seen as human bombs in Iraq lately?
How many kids you seen as human bombs full stop!!?
Point me to some links where minor's and I mean kids under 16 decided to blow themselves up in Iraq?

[Uncle Sam]

I never said kids blow themselves up..You did. I am merely stating that they are trying to protect themselves from harm..ANY harm. Now, am I saying it was the right thing to do...NO. So, while your winning hearts and minds..and getting shot at...I will be better off knowing I flexcuffed some woman, so I didn't get shot. Put yourself in the shoes of a soldier..If you are one, you should know!! Better safe than sorry. Kids are pretty resilient..I don't think flexcuffing some kid for 10 min. is gonna ruin his/her entire life..C'MON!

[Argyll]

It wasn't me who said kids had explosives strapped to them,it was WARPIG's post,whether he's implying that this is a threat or not,I don't know.
I'm no longer serving,but I can assure you during my times in NI kids were never placed in a state of distress by a soldier in my unit,and they taught their kids to be bitter little Bas*ards over there,but we never ever flexi them threat or not,that was a role for the police to "detain "them.
IMHO flexing them is extreme whether it be for your protection or not,and I'm talking specifically about kids under 10,it would be better if that was the case to get the local police to segragate them ,do your local PD/SWAT practice this art,in the way they detain kids?
If there was such a high risk then why not get trained people to do it?
It's a case here though damned if you do damned if you don't,the trouble here is that the Iraqis are in their own country and they are being treated like they are the ones who are the foriegners and I disagree with that,I support the war,but there are cases where sheer frustration is creeping in here,and that is affecting the soldiers role!.A soldier is not a policeman,and this is where the problem lies,these guys are out and out door kicking SOB's who know what to do on the battlefield,but stick them in the IS role and they're out of their depth!!

[Uncle Sam]

I definitely agree with you...Soldiers are not Police..!! But, unfortunately, they are in this role in Iraq. They have to learn to deal with it...and Drive On with a Hard On..Ya know??

[Argyll]

now that takes some doing drivin with a ***** mate!!
Its a very steep learning curb for you boys,and sadly you're paying for it,pity the USG didn't see a role like this unfold,with all the baggage!!

[jdbjdb]

Aljazeera doesn't care about kids being searched and cuffed, they did the story to stir up more dirt, and to make us look evil.

[usa320]

I believe there are large numbers of militia fighters in iraq who are in their early teens, and there have been Palestinian Suicide bombers as young as 13 if i remember correctly.

[duck]

jbbjdb: You are an israeli, right? So, what does the "us" mean? Does it exclude arab-americans or other americans of moslem faith?

[StarvingStudent47]

Why has no one considered the fact that maybe al-Jazeera just made this up?

[Seoulstriker]

Why has no one considered the fact that maybe al-Jazeera just made this up?

remember, one of the staff members for that network worked for al qaeda.

[One?]

In the US if a child is touched he is ******Y MOLESTED. Or in the case of Elian gonzales the whole world was talking about him because he had an MP5 pointed at him.


But hey what the fuk those kids arn't american lets tie'em up who gives a ****....

[jdbjdb]

But hey what the fuk those kids arn't american lets tie'em up who gives a ****....
Kids should not be tired up(jew, muslim, christian etc.), if the story is true I'm saying the soldiers may have had orders todo so, but maybe bad judgement was used, You can snap a picture and make up any headline you want. But in most of the arab world you don't have free press, other then al jazeera of coursed their not fair and balanced news. I'm a big fan of Fox News and Bill O'Reily they are fair and balanced aren't they? ;)