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10-28-2002, 11:58 PM
The December issue of "Soldier Of Fortune" magazine has an article on the Karzai assassination attempt and confirms that the bodyguards were DEVGRU and not Delta. DEVGRU assumed VIP protection duties in August from Delta and will turn the mission over the State Dept. Diplomatic Security Service on 11 NOV 02. A good read for those interested.
10-29-2002, 09:25 AM
That may be true, may not be true. Either way I wouldn't waste your time reading "Soldier of Fiction".
10-29-2002, 09:32 AM
This merely corroborates the original information emailed to me by a knowledgeable individual connected to the community through his work.
As far as your advice, I suggest I read a copy before you dismiss it. It isn't the Guns & Ammo for Walter Mitty's it once was.
10-29-2002, 03:52 PM
I agree on SOF. It has improved way out of site. November issue (latest here in UK) has first open source mention of Task Force 11 that I've seen and a very nice piece on SASR.
Also agree on DEVGRU being the guys in the Karzai shoot- they are clearly 'frogs' after conversing with a few folks and taking a good look at the snaps.
Anyone else hear about the three NZ SAS Group operators wounded last week in AFG?
10-29-2002, 04:36 PM
I read the article today at lunch and thought it was pretty good. A lot of info given regarding the "enhanced" M4's that both DEVGRU and Delta were shown carrying.
Anyone know of any good sites with better pics of those new M4's?
10-29-2002, 04:43 PM
No, I have found no good info on the Enhanced Carbines so if anyone comes across anything please post it here.
BTW, I'm still waiting for the definitive answer on why all the operators have rubber bands on the buttstocks.
10-30-2002, 08:46 AM
Could be in case the attachments on the gun break off or maybe for quick identification. Good question, I never noticed it before.
10-30-2002, 01:37 PM
it's been said it was used to carry band aid...
11-04-2002, 02:40 PM
I have heard from several fairly reliable sources that the rubberbands on the M4 stocks are indeed for an extra field dressing.
I will third that opinion on SOF. It has really turned around a lot since I used to read an occasional copy of my dads.
11-04-2002, 06:04 PM
I reread that article from SOF "SEAL Team Six in Kabul" and they make reference to 2 previous issues on info regarding the new M4's those operator's are carrying - I think it said March'02, April'02 issues. I'll have to recheck the magazine to make sure those are the correct months, but I do remember it being mentioned.
Anyone on here happen to have a subscription?
11-04-2002, 08:54 PM
It's easy to have good articles in a military type magazine when a war's going on. Anybody here actually in the military or ex-military (combat arms only) who think it's a good mag? I stand by my original statement.
11-06-2002, 07:06 PM
Yep I'm ex Army (8/9RAR and 6RAR for a bit) and think it's not a bad read. I buy it fairly regularly- well when I see it and it normally has a coupla decent pieces in it. The AFG pieces have been reasonably good in my opinion- plus they featured "The Dentists" last month so it's got to be good :-)!!
03-14-2003, 11:01 PM
Hi, I'm new to the list.
Does anyone know if there's a link to read the article about Karzai's protection on SOF magazine online?
03-14-2003, 11:09 PM
someone else said the rubber band on the m-4 buttstock was to keep that adjustment piece from jangling around. i not sure just what i read
03-15-2003, 07:22 AM
03-15-2003, 12:43 PM
I'm in the service as a Combat Arms Specialist and I think that SOF is a good source of info. I do think, as with anything, you should take everything with a grain of salt especially the editorials and submitted product reviews. Articles such as the one on the Afghan president's protective detail definitely seem to jive with other sources on the same subject. It's always worth geting your info from a number of sources as to aviod repeating "there I was" stories from some guy who wasn't as much of an operator as he claims. This will keep you from losing your credibility, if that is important to you. By the way, that's a really fancy title on this thread.
03-15-2003, 02:16 PM
I haven't read a great deal of SOF, but I have read a few really great articles from it. So far my favorite was the two-part piece on the Canadian snipers in Afghanistan. I should really pick up a newer issue and check it out further.
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