View Full Version : Marine Gear - Woodland Clothing, Desert Helmet?
GearGod
03-25-2003, 04:27 PM
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Gulf_War_2_Iraqi_Freedom_Marines Why are they wearing woodland clothing with a desert helmet? My guess is that they are wearing their woodland goretex suits or their protective NBC suits- If so, why didnt they also make those suits in 3 color desert?
.....which leads me to another question- Gear colors.. Why is it that they mix woodland and desert together? Example: Woodland armor with desert BDUs, Woodland knee/elbow pads with desert BDUs etc. This is how a fully dressed DESERT soldier should look like(username/password both "mm" excluding quotation marks:
http://militarymorons.com/gear/img/molle1.jpg
http://militarymorons.com/gear/img/molle4.jpg
Do you think they should get FULL DESERT/WOODLAND suits instead of mix and matching all the colors? Also, if a standard gear color were to be created, it should be Olive Drab Green or Brown which is compatible with both woodland/desert
Ratamacue
03-25-2003, 04:29 PM
The Marines are wearing their MOPP suits. Unfortunately, the Marines always get the older gear, so they haven't received 3-color MOPP uniforms. The helmet is desert because they don't make a MOPP helmet cover.
Trigger
03-25-2003, 04:30 PM
Actually, they have all matching gear, custom tailored etc. but they left it back in the U.S. because they only use it when they play airsoft.
SHOOTERB
03-25-2003, 05:49 PM
THATS FUNNY AS HELL! GOOD ONE! THERE ARE DESERT COLOR NBC SUITS. THEY ARE OUT THERE. HOWEVER A LIFE SAVING PIECE OF EQUIPMENT DOSE NOT WORK ANY LESS BECAUSE OF THE COLOR SCHEME. YOU GET WHAT YOU GET AND USE IT.
Bootneck
03-25-2003, 05:58 PM
How's that poll doing?
Someone please make sure the DoD is standing by for the results.
Ratamacue
03-25-2003, 05:59 PM
Actually, my friend, it's good to have some woodland in your uniform while wearing desert. It makes you look more like a shrub at long distance (so, it's good unless you're in the Sahara or something).
The uniform should be desert with OD gear, or woodland if OD is unavailable.
David
03-25-2003, 08:11 PM
obviously their camo hasn't made that big of a difference since as far as i know not that many have died because they were spotted. and it's not like the marines care about stealth here, they are rolling through iraq on apc's.
papabear
03-29-2003, 10:39 PM
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=DefenseWatch.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=30&rnd=498.88839792912347
Smoothie104
03-30-2003, 01:30 AM
That airsoft joke was beautiful!
Breacher
03-30-2003, 08:43 AM
Airsoft...HAAAAA! Classic!
GearGod
03-30-2003, 09:09 AM
Very humorous gentleman, very humorous
Nelson
03-30-2003, 10:44 AM
What Marines really should be wearing is the new MARPAT digital camo with Coyote Brown gear and Coyote Brown rough out boots.
GearGod
03-30-2003, 12:28 PM
Nelson: I agree. I bet they are learning their lessons. In the future they'd probably achieve a "standard" of gear
Breacher
03-30-2003, 08:31 PM
Nelson: I agree. I bet they are learning their lessons. In the future they'd probably achieve a "standard" of gear
........First of all, BOTH OF YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR F**KING MOUTHS!! What the f*ck is that comment supposed to mean! Sure it would be nice to have all desert ****....but in the Marine Corps we use what we're given. If we can get a hold of it, we use it! I'd love to square up with your ****ing punk asses and help you 'Learn your lesson'.
They're out in the Sandbox, and YOU want to be critical of what THEY'RE doing!?!?! OF HOW THEIR CAMO IS?!?!?! You ****ing nasty little creatures.....GO F**KIN' HAZE YOURSELF UNTIL I FIND YOU!! F**KING lazy Pukes!!!!
David
03-30-2003, 08:45 PM
Nelson: I agree. I bet they are learning their lessons. In the future they'd probably achieve a "standard" of gear
either you're so stupid you don't even know what you're saying or you have no sense of respect. either way you'd get an ass kicking.
Nelson
03-30-2003, 09:40 PM
Someone let their child stay up to late. I did not mean any disrespect in my comments I was merely giving the best combination of camoflauge, gear color, and boots for a desert situation. I don't know where the hell you got this idea that I am disrespecting soldiers over there?
Ratamacue
03-30-2003, 10:01 PM
I think they were referring more towards adambalhetchet.
GearGod
03-30-2003, 10:03 PM
"BOTH OF YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR F**KING MOUTHS!!"
Your conduct is unacceptable
"What the f*ck is that comment supposed to mean"
Your conduct is unacceptable
"in the Marine Corps we use what we're given"
Who gives you the gear? Im talking about the people who give you the gear, theyre responsible for not issuing the gear
"I'd love to square up with your f*** punk asses"
Your conduct is unacceptable
"They're out in the Sandbox, and YOU want to be critical of what THEY'RE doing"
I am talking about their gear. Even the media is talking about their gear:
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=DefenseWatch.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=30&rnd=498.88839792912347
"You f*** nasty little creatures.....GO F**KIN' HAZE YOURSELF UNTIL I FIND YOU!! F**KING lazy Pukes"
Your conduct is unacceptable. I have read the following links about the Marine Corps. It seems to me that perhaps you are living up to what is said in the following links: http://www.geocities.com/itsg.geo/whymarinesareinept.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/marinebs.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/marinebs2.htm
http://www.geocities.com/equipmentshop/getitright.htm
I dont appreaciate your conduct, breacher. I know that marines are given their gear. They may not have a choice to select what they want. They are issued gear. Im talking about the guys who issue them the gear. They may say to themselves, "Well gentlemen, one of the lessons we learned is that we didnt issue desert camofluage in time. Lets not let that happen again" What I said was LEGITIMATE. There was no need for hostility.
"either you're so stupid you don't even know what you're saying or you have no sense of respect. either way you'd get an ass kicking"
What is YOUR problem? Respect? They would be better off with desert camoflauge than woodland. Would you rather them wear woodland? Support the fact that they can have better camoflauge. If this was my board, that type of language and conduct would not exist for 1 minute. By the way, who here has more respect? Me or the people who oppose me? Who used more profanity? Who took this conversation in a more mature, legitimate, and nonhostile way? Ask yourselves these questions gentlemen.
David
03-30-2003, 10:42 PM
adam you pretty much said that marines are dying because of a mistake that they or their superiors made. i don't care if they could have better camo theres nothing you can do about it now, you don't say things like that, it's disrespectful.
GearGod
03-30-2003, 11:02 PM
read my next post
Piccolo
03-30-2003, 11:07 PM
It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat. - T. Roosevel
Adam, I find you to be both a disturbed and sad individual. Perhaps this quote will convey my point; as you are obviously lost. My advice to you is that you leave this place. You are not the kind of person anyone wants here, and I can say that with assurance.
GearGod
03-30-2003, 11:08 PM
"adam you pretty much said that marines are dying because of a mistake that they or their superiors made"
No I dindt. I said that the superiors would have realized the mistake of not issueing them desert and would do so in the future
"i don't care if they could have better camo theres nothing you can do about it now"
You should care if they could have better camo in the future, and I dindt say "hey we gotta get these marines some desert camo" I said that the superiors will learn from this and get their desert camo ready in a future desert op to not repeat the mistake
"you don't say things like that, it's disrespectful"
Oh really? This is what I said:
"I agree. I bet they are learning their lessons. In the future they'd probably achieve a "standard" of gear"
Now check out what this gentleman(Breacher) said:
"BOTH OF YOU NEED TO SHUT YOUR F**KING MOUTHS!! What the f*ck is that comment supposed to mean! I'd love to square up with your f*** punk asses and help you 'Learn your lesson'.
You f*** nasty little creatures.....GO F**KIN' HAZE YOURSELF UNTIL I FIND YOU!! F**KING lazy Pukes!!!!"
WHO IS MORE DISRESPECTFUL?
GearGod
03-30-2003, 11:11 PM
Piccolo: All this over some camofluage? Is this some kind of joke? Im saying "Hey I bet superiors are learning that in the future they wont repeat this 'woodland in desert' mistake"
THATS ALL IM SAYING! And many would agree. Im sure that they wouldve been happier with desert ANYWAY! Theres no need to get all patriotic about it talking about their lives etc.. Im talking about wearing desert in the desert in the future instead of woodland in the desert--THATS ALL!
Ratamacue
03-30-2003, 11:15 PM
The reason they don't have desert camouflage on is because they're wearing MOPP gear. 3-color desert MOPP gear has only been issued to the Army, and has not yet been manufactured in MARPAT. If you've noticed, many Marines were already issued desert MARPAT (look at some of their helmet covers), but had to wear their woodland MOPP gear
David
03-30-2003, 11:17 PM
adam, you seem to "obsessed" with many aspects of the military. in my time around people of the military, all of them cuss like breacher at times, and this site is called "military"photos.net.
GearGod
03-30-2003, 11:18 PM
Perhaps, but its still immoral-Especially if your religious
David
03-30-2003, 11:32 PM
religious smeligious, you think God cares if we say "f**k" every once and a while? besides it's only a bad word because society has deemed it so.
i thought this quote was fitting..
"God has a hard on for marines, because we kill everything we see."
Ratamacue
03-30-2003, 11:41 PM
Well, incase you have a problem with the word "****," I think it's appropriate that you know that it has no connections at all to religion and is only a bad word because society says so.
"****" came from the old sailing days, when horse maneur was often shipped by sea because of its use as a fertilizer. It was normally shipped dry because it starts decomposing once it becomes wet. What people didn't know is that when it becomes wet, it starts to produce methane gas. Many instances occured where the maneur was being shipped in the lower cargo holds and thus became wet from the water, and then people would walk down there with a kerosene lantern and BOOM!
Once people realized why this was happening, instructions were given for shipping maneur as "Ship High In Transit" or "****," meaning to ship it in higher cargo holds less likely to become soaked with water.
Learn something new everyday....
Piccolo
03-31-2003, 01:08 AM
Adam: No, not simply this. My post was in regard to all the bull **** you have posted on this site.
Apogee
03-31-2003, 09:37 AM
God bless ya Piccolo. Thats what I like to see. I'm tired of that kids crap clogging up the threads on this board. Of course everyone has the right to speak their mind, but damn....
Trigger
03-31-2003, 12:03 PM
...and now, from the producers of 'Black Hawk Down XXXVI' comes: 'Showdown in Baghdad' starring adambalhechet!
(dramatic music by Hans Zimmer)
adam: "OK men, everyone in MARPAT move up! All of you in assorted colors, give us covering fire!!"
squad: "YES SIR!!"
adam: "GO,GO,GO!!"
Iraqi Colonel: "You F**ING Americans suck" "We'll kill all of you B**CHES"
adam (standing up): "Now that wasn't professional or polite at all!! Your conduct is unacceptable"
Iraqi squad's automatic weapons: BLAAAAAAAM!!!
squad: "HOO YAAAA!!!"
(probably not) THE END
Bootneck
03-31-2003, 12:44 PM
Adam-
Are you unable to process external feedback? You stir up the same ****-storm on every single board you post on, get flamed in return by those who know better (from experience, not what they learn behind a keyboard), but never seem to get a clue.
Time to get back on the meds big guy.
I can only imaging how sad your life in the real world must be. Boo-****ing-hoo...
***Censorship was done automatically by the board. I don't give a crap about your delicate sensibilities.***
Smoothie104
03-31-2003, 03:18 PM
I must say, I look forward to this thread every morning.
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