Mout

[goldman]

http://www.nato.int/structur/ntg/Graphics/ntg03.jpg
http://www.brockport.edu/armyrotc/images/Mout%202.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/camp-hansen_cta_mout-training07.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/camp-hansen_cta_mout-training12.jpg
http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Images%20Complete/HighResImages/040521-mout.jpg
http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Images%20Complete/HighResImages/040521-mout4.jpg
http://www.hqusareur.army.mil/nurevision%20files/vi-index/Archived%20Images/1998/September/1ID-Soldier%20Assault.JPG
http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Images%20Complete/HighResImages/031107-urban.jpg
http://www.usarc.army.mil/99thrsc/354th%20MPAD/crowderMOUT2.jpg
http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_040720-N-5055W-128.jpg
http://jdbest.com/op4/griffin/mout.jpg
http://www.securityforces.org/images/Class%20Photos/010522/MOUT/MOUT083.JPG
http://www.securityforces.org/images/Class%20Photos/010522/MOUT/MOUT080.JPG
http://www.securityforces.org/images/Class%20Photos/010522/MOUT/MOUT105.JPG
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/cjtf96.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/cjtf96_2.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior2.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior3.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior5.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior7.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior11.jpg
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior.jpg
http://forum.apan-info.net/Winter02/jpg_lg/F-8%20ghost.jpg
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/fb8a289d38bc069885256a8400381ad5/$FILE/GEAREDUP.JPG
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2004/Jul/30/ln13b_b.jpg
http://forum.apan-info.net/SPRING_97/images/Soldiers.jpg

More Plz!!! woot

[McLane]

I posted them already, but here we are again:

German Infantry-School in Hammelburg:

http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw001.jpg
http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw010.jpg
http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw012.jpg
http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw014.jpg
http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw015.jpg

http://www.marcush.de/fun/UN-hammelburg.jpg

[Nite]

http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/mout/urban_warrior11.jpg

What sort of Vehicle is this ?

[grabie_bis]

i know, i know resolution sucks...

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/grabie/abf.sized.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/grabie/abe.sized.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/grabie/abd.sized.jpg

[CombatBoots]

That vehicle, might be an HTTV... Not sure.

[fantassin]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/akn.jpg

All pictures are French infantry in Hammelburg, Germany

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/aju.jpg

The device on the helmet is the STCAL, the French equivalent to the Miles system.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/ajt.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/ajv.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/aki.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/ako.jpg

[McLane]

Any Infos about French's in Hammelburg? Was it good for them? Have they fun? A friend of mine was there when some french units wer there too. But it would be interesting to hear what the french say about hammelburg and german bundeswehr.

The german army practise with a system called 'AGDUS' (Ausbildungsgerät Duell-Simulator -> Practise-equitment Duell-Simulator), it is like miles onlay a bit newer.

[OzMan]

The vehicle is the new SOCOM Helo transportable tactical vehicle. You can see the lettering near the bottom of the side panel, with the SOCOM logo at the end under the driver.

[FallenAngel]

http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw012.jpg


That is a LOT of ammo :D

[RSK]

Sweet Pics!

[ZaakM433]

The german army practise with a system called 'AGDUS' (Ausbildungsgerät Duell-Simulator -> Practise-equitment Duell-Simulator), it is like miles onlay a bit newer.old miles or new miles?

[Knutsen]

grabie, where are thos pics with the spanish soldiers taken? doesn't look like the typical spanish scenery/buildings

[xmas]

Ammo B!tch?? :lol:
http://radditz.no-ip.org/mclane/bw012.jpg

Paintball mask??
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/fb8a289d38bc069885256a8400381ad5/$FILE/GEAREDUP.JPG

[CombatBoots]

That ain't SOCOM, that's the Marines :lol:

And yes it is an HTTV, I stand uncorrected.

[OzMan]

You are correct, that is a USMC sticker on there, but there IS a SOCOM logo directly forward of it (yellow circle):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/sahl1/urban_warrior11-1.jpg

I love this pic:

http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Images%20Complete/HighResImages/040521-mout.jpg

GET SOME!!

[McLane]

The german army practise with a system called 'AGDUS' (Ausbildungsgerät Duell-Simulator -> Practise-equitment Duell-Simulator), it is like miles onlay a bit newer.old miles or new miles?

At first we had the old Miles system, after a couple of years the bundeswehr bought the german AGDUS-System - it was newer (I think it will be like the new MILES-System) and home-made.

[Weasel]

Who is it on the foto?

http://www.marcush.de/fun/UN-hammelburg.jpg

[fantassin]

The French army has been going to Hammelburg since at least 1994; the lieutenants from the infantry school as well as infantry company go there.

I went to Hammelburg twice and I liked it.

The main problem was that every time I was there, at least 1/3rd of the village was being refurbished and could not be used for training. The rules of use are also very strict and a lot of time is spent policing the place (which is the only way to keep it tidy) but it takes its toll on training time.

I loved the urban assault course which is run through houses and barns, especially the big jump in the dark in a pitch black barn.

The forest courses were also good, as well as the "demonstration" units and courses.

All together I loved it and I even prefered the time spent in brewery in Wurzburg during the weekend with German soldiers...they were especially astonished when we sang "Westerwald" and "Anne Marie" in German !

[Weasel]

All together I loved it and I even prefered the time spent in brewery in Wurzburg during the weekend with German soldiers...they were especially astonished when we sang "Westerwald" and "Anne Marie" in German !

Good to hear that. The european idea works. :)

[McLane]

The French army has been going to Hammelburg since at least 1994; the lieutenants from the infantry school as well as infantry company go there.

I went to Hammelburg twice and I liked it.

The main problem was that every time I was there, at least 1/3rd of the village was being refurbished and could not be used for training. The rules of use are also very strict and a lot of time is spent policing the place (which is the only way to keep it tidy) but it takes its toll on training time.

I loved the urban assault course which is run through houses and barns, especially the big jump in the dark in a pitch black barn.

The forest courses were also good, as well as the "demonstration" units and courses.

All together I loved it and I even prefered the time spent in brewery in Wurzburg during the weekend with German soldiers...they were especially astonished when we sang "Westerwald" and "Anne Marie" in German !


Wow, I'm happy to hear that!

Are there any Hammelburg-like-Schools in France? Any Exchanges besides that from hamelburg? German Soldiers in France?

[fantassin]

oh yes !

There was one or several Germans in most of the courses I have done in the French army.

There is now the Franco-German Tiger helicopter school (EFA) in Le Luc in Southern France, there are German exchange officers in many French HQs, there is a German Navy officer attached to the French amphibious HQ in Toulon to study amphibious Ops, of course there is the Franco-German Brigade, the Eurocorps, exchanges with the officers schools of all services...There is also the Colibri airborne exercises every two years.

France is creating a new MOUT centre called the CENZUB in Sissonne in the North East of the country; it is in its infancy right now but it will evolve in a village which can accomodate a BG when finished.

France also uses the British MOUT centres in Catterick, Longmoor and Sennybridge as well as the Dutch one in Marnehuizen.

I think the use of the GUZ in Germany, which is a truly awesome training centre, would be a good idea for France.

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/akq.jpg

French soldiers in Hammelburg with AGDUS and German weapons

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/aks.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/akr.jpg

[Weasel]

oh yes !

There was one or several Germans in most of the courses I have done in the French army.

There is now the Franco-German Tiger helicopter school (EFA) in Le Luc in Southern France, there are German exchange officers in many French HQs, there is a German Navy officer attached to the French amphibious HQ in Toulon to study amphibious Ops, of course there is the Franco-German Brigade, the Eurocorps, exchanges with the officers schools of all services...There is also the Colibri airborne exercises every two years.

France is creating a new MOUT centre called the CENZUB in Sissonne in the North East of the country; it is in its infancy right now but it will evolve in a village which can accomodate a BG when finished.

France also uses the British MOUT centres in Catterick, Longmoor and Sennybridge as well as the Dutch one in Marnehuizen.

Don´t forget the jungle training in Guayana. ;)

[fantassin]

Yes, among other places...

;)

[McLane]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/akq.jpg

French soldiers in Hammelburg with AGDUS and German weapons

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/aks.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/album70/akr.jpg

How the french soldiers like the german equitment (G36/MG3)?

[fantassin]

The first time I went to Hammelburg, the "future" German weapons were shown to us, including a rifle which was then called the "HK50"...it then, a few years latter, was called the "G36"...there was also the USP and the LMG version of the HK50 on presentation.

I got the "schutzenschnur" (sp?) in Bronze when I first went to Hammelburg so I can tell you what I liked;

G3 : liked it but we used both the fixed and telescopic stocks versions and I thought the telescopic stock wasn't comfortable on your cheek when firing. Also, it was very cumbersome in MOUT

MG3: loved it, much better than the ANF1; tremendous rate of fire !

Panzerfaust 3: fired two rounds, got two hits, so must be good !

GraPi: very good (in use by French SF BTW...) and accurate

Uzi: did not like it, much prefer the MP5s we use

P1: OK, old, but reliable

G36: wasn't available to shoot when I was there

[Weasel]

The first time I went to Hammelburg, the "future" German weapons were shown to us, including a rifle which was then called the "HK50"...it then, a few years latter, was called the "G36"...there was also the USP and the LMG version of the HK50 on presentation.

I got the "schutzenschnur" (sp?) in Bronze when I first went to Hammelburg so I can tell you what I liked;

G3 : liked it but we used both the fixed and telescopic stocks versions and I thought the telescopic stock wasn't comfortable on your cheek when firing. Also, it was very cumbersome in MOUT

MG3: loved it, much better than the ANF1; tremendous rate of fire !

Panzerfaust 3: fired two rounds, got two hits, so must be good !

GraPi: very good (in use by French SF BTW...) and accurate

Uzi: did not like it, much prefer the MP5s we use

P1: OK, old, but reliable

G36: wasn't available to shoot when I was there

I didn´t like the Uzi too. It fired when saved, it fired single shots when on automatic and it fired several round when on single shoot modus. Total unreliable.

[Blumenteufel]

Most people who used the Uzi surely know how to clear our a room with it :P

[1Cie GevGn]

http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Images%20Complete/HighResImages/040521-mout.jpg

What MOUT (or FIBUA) is all about. FUNFUNFUN woot

[McLane]

http://www.milbertengineering.com/Images/Mout_Scenario_D.jpg
http://www.milbertengineering.com/Images/Mout_Scenario_C.jpg
http://www.milbertengineering.com/Images/Mout_Scenario_B.jpg
http://www.milbertengineering.com/Images/Mout_Scenario_A.jpg

http://www.25idl.army.mil/deployment/OIF%20Iraq/PreDeployment/Big/predeployment29Jan04%20MOUT.jpg

[Weasel]

Most people who used the Uzi surely know how to clear our a room with it :P

Throw it into it! ;)

[§nake]

Most people who used the Uzi surely know how to clear our a room with it :P

Throw it into it! ;)
rofl

[McLane]

In a couple of years the german untis will have the MP7 - and than nobody will make jokes of it ;)

[goldman]

http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/fibua02_tn.jpg
http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/fibua01_tn.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/0.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/7.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/9.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/10.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/11.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/6.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/17.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/18.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/14.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/19.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/16.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/13.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/15.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/22.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/23.jpg
http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/26.jpg

[Frens]

great pics!!! woot


http://www.ulotc.co.uk/bcompany/inf/fibua/images/18.jpg

^ Kennedy?!

[goldman]

Is their a Franco-German brigade?

[goldman]

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/Images/6_1/Enlarge/KodiakStrike_1.jpg
http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/Images/6_1/Enlarge/KodiakStrike_2.jpg
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Feature_Story/2003/jul03/16/SIMSA.jpg
http://www.army.dnd.ca/lfwa/Photos/EN2004-043-04D.jpg
http://www.ashofc.ca/exec02.jpg
http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Feature_Story/2003/jul03/16/SIMSC.jpg
http://www.hqusareur.army.mil/htmlinks/Press_Releases/2004/July2004/NCOY-SOY%20images/orsini-MOUT-grenade-1.jpg

[1Cie GevGn]

http://news.mod.uk/img/pressdatabase/images/supportingImages/large/fibua01_tn.jpg

Belgian troop with SA80? What gives?

[Chris1]

^
http://news.mod.uk/news/press/news_headline_story.asp?newsItem_id=1256

[1Cie GevGn]

^
http://news.mod.uk/news/press/news_headline_story.asp?newsItem_id=1256

Thanks, I wonder if he found the mag the first time he had to reload ;)

[Bluezoo]

Great pictures! woot

[EsoognomEhT]

ulotc :bash:

[EsoognomEhT]

btw for anyone wondering, the pics of the British troops that Goldman posted are from London University Officers' Training Corps', the uk (vastly superior) version of what the Americans call ROTC

[Pook2]

btw for anyone wondering, the pics of the British troops that Goldman posted are from London University Officers' Training Corps', the uk (vastly superior) version of what the Americans call ROTC


uhhhhhhhhh, ok. Any specifics on its vastly superiorness?

[goldman]

Sorry Mongoose :(

[EsoognomEhT]

just what Ive heard from when the yanks have come over on exchanges, quite amusing really. I wont share the stories because you'll just say they're crap ;d











Pook, chill my man. Its called banter

[EsoognomEhT]

lol gold, Im just suprised that you managed to find those pictures. Although they are good pics actually ;d
Nothing wrong with posting them, its just ulotc :-*$ :-*$ :-*$ ;)

[Pook2]

just what Ive heard from when the yanks have come over on exchanges, quite amusing really. I wont share the stories because you'll just say they're crap ;d











Pook, chill my man. Its called banter

No I'm not heated, just wondering. I mean it seems like half this board has an inferiority complex and so its EXTREMELY difficult to believe anything. And I do understand that ROTC sucks. Every enlisted man I've talked to says that his ROTC officers are ****heads, but what can you do, The military needs leaders, ROTC gives them leaders.

[Dutchman2]

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/grabie/abf.sized.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/grabie/abe.sized.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/grabie/abd.sized.jpg

This is the MOUT training centre in Holland, Marnehuizen, but theese arn't Dutch troops. They have the G36 but they don't look German. Are thoose Spanish troops having some quality time?

Greets

[usafbalad]

That vehicle from page 1 looks like the one from the game Halo, the warthog.

[RGRBOX]

Those Marines in the first series of pictures , must be in Boot Camp.. And that German Ammo Berrer has a ton of **** on his back... Ammo up!

[Prometheus]

This is the MOUT training centre in Holland, Marnehuizen, but theese arn't Dutch troops. They have the G36 but they don't look German. Are thoose Spanish troops having some quality time?

Greets

Yes they seem to be spanish. Look at the G36, it's the Export version with scope only so they can't be German. Also look at the right one of the soldiers who carring the litter, it seems he has a spanish flag on his shoulder.