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2RHPZ
03-08-2005, 05:51 AM
'Its men were beaten, its equipment destroyed'

The Nazi war machine became a ghost of what it once was as German troops surrendered in droves in 1945

By MURRAY CAMPBELL
Monday, March 7, 2005

Quite suddenly, resistance from the vaunted Nazi war machine seemed to dissipate. As the second week of March, 1945, began, Allied soldiers at many points along the 250-kilometre front on Germany's Rhine River reported that they were taking territory without a fight.

The U.S. 3rd Army stormed up to the west bank of the Rhine on the night of March 7 after having covered more than 100 kilometres in just 58 hours against German soldiers who appeared to be reeling in chaotic defeat.

Enemy troops appeared to be concerned only with retreating to safety or surrendering as quickly as possible. Masses of German equipment were destroyed and supply dumps were captured so rapidly that there was no time to evaluate what was there.

"The most complete picture of defeat the war in the West has produced," wrote Associated Press correspondent Edward Ball. "Its men were beaten, its equipment destroyed."

The story was much the same on the other side of Germany, where Soviet forces had launched an all-out offensive toward Berlin from beachheads on the Oder River about 50 kilometres to the east.

Churchill was ecstatic, saying that "one strong heave" could end the Second World War after more than five years. "We will soon bring down tyranny so you can go home," he said during a visit with a Scottish regiment fighting alongside Canadian troops on the northern Rhine. The British prime minister stopped at an artillery position long enough to write, "For Hitler -- Personal" in chalk on a 360-pound shell and then watch as it was fired at the Rhine ferry crossing the town of Xanten a few kilometres away.

But the ebullient Churchill was overlooking the difficult job that the 1st Canadian Army was having in the Xanten area. Canadian Press correspondent Ross Munro said the British and Canadian soldiers fighting under General H. D. G. Crerar were involved in the stickiest job of the campaign that had started with the D-Day invasion of France nine months earlier.

About 20,000 German troops, compressed in an area on the west bank of the Rhine measuring 12 kilometres by eight kilometres, were fighting bitterly. No one was sure why this was the case when their countrymen at other points along the front looked like they had given up. "Perhaps the Germans could not move the guns and ammunition dumps back over the Rhine and decided to fight as long as their ammunition holds out," Munro wrote on March 7.

By week's end, however, the last-ditch stand had petered out and Gen. Crerar's forces, with about 21,000 captured enemy soldiers, were resting in ruined German towns for the first time since they had launched an offensive a month earlier in the Netherlands.

The week's most remarkable action -- one which set the stage for a quicker-than-anticipated conquest of Germany -- occurred at the little Rhine town of Remagen. An armoured division of the U.S. 1st Army had arrived at the town to find the Ludendorff Bridge across the river still standing despite Hitler's order to his retreating forces to blow up all bridges.

The bridge was, in fact, wired for demolition and though German forces on the eastern bank of the Rhine blew a 10-metre crater at the bridge's approach, U.S. soldiers managed to cut the wires to the main explosive minutes before its planned demolition. The capture of the bridge, which was chronicled in a 1969 Hollywood film, The Bridge at Remagen, saved thousands of lives that would have been lost in an assault crossing the Rhine. The bridge was used to funnel U.S. forces and equipment and establish a bridgehead.

By March 12, the bridgehead was 18 kilometres wide and eight kilometres deep and U.S. forces were 450 kilometres from Berlin and poised for attack on the great war factories of the Ruhr River valley.

Hitler was apoplectic about the Allies' successes. On March 11, German radio read a statement from the Nazi leader in which he said that country's defeat in 1918 would not be repeated. "Drunk with their orgy of victory, our enemies have clearly announced their war aims: extermination of the German nation," the manifesto said.

But even though Hitler once again exhorted his countrymen to fight with "courage, endurance and fanaticism," it was clear that the Nazi war machine was a ghost of the force that launched blitzkrieg offensives in Europe in 1939. In Paris, the Allied Supreme Headquarters revealed on March 11 that 50 generals of the German army had been lost: 18 of them killed and 32 captured. The dead included the hero of the Nazi African campaign, Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.

The Allies also announced that more than a million German soldiers had been captured since D-Day, including 138,000 rounded up by the 1st Canadian Army. Another 500,000 German troops had been killed or seriously wounded.

With numbers like those, it's little wonder that a Reuters reporter in London concluded on March 9 that "the will to resistance of the bulk of the German soldiers and civilians, as distinct from the fanaticism of special units and the mechanical obedience of the rest, is definitely broken."

As those words were being written, civilians in newly captured Cologne were looting stores and liquor warehouses with such exuberance that a U.S. Army lieutenant from Salt Lake City said, "It's like Saturday night back home when the carnival's in town."

In Toronto, meanwhile, city officials making tentative plans for a celebration of the eventual victory in Europe doubted that the rejoicing would get out of hand the way it had in 1918. Stores in the downtown area were making no plans to shutter their windows but, nevertheless, all police leave would be cancelled when Germany finally capitulated. Amid this prospect of euphoria, a Canadian soldier -- and former Globe and Mail carrier boy -- thought he detected a sense back home that the German collapse had made warfare easy.

"Do they figure we're having a soft time of it?" Trooper Mel Smith, serving in New Brunswick's North Shore regiment wrote in The Globe on March 9. "If they figure we're having a picnic over here, they want to go out in their backyards and dig a slit trench and stand up in it all night and sleep in it in the daytime, especially when it is so cold that the water in your water bottle freezes."

Link (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050307/WAR07/Columnists/Columnist?author=Murray+Campbell)

Oxford
03-08-2005, 08:37 AM
Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was murdered by Adolf Hitler on 14 October 1944. The order was suicide or else. The article above doesn't quite make that clear enough.

The Wehrmacht were defeated by the Soviet armies on the eastern front. The forces on the western front on and after D-Day included wounded, old men and young boys. There were SS Divisions too, but the German War aspirations were defeated in late 1942 at Stalingrad. It just took another three years to bring that defeat home to Herr Hitler in Berlin.

Had the assassination attempt on the 20 July 1943 on Herr Hitler succeeded, the war in Europe would in all likelihood have ended within weeks.

World War II has taught us many lessons. One lesson, that of democracy, is being pursued by the American President Bush. I believe that this will make the world a safer place.

Nazi Germany could have been stopped before 14 May 1940 when the Wehrmacht blitzkrieg turned westward. The war in the Middle East and the unseen events that are being played out, have averted a future conflict that would have been far worse.

Ichhabe
03-08-2005, 09:24 AM
Had the assassination attempt on the 20 July 1943 on Herr Hitler succeeded, the war in Europe would in all likelihood have ended within weeks.



Just for the record; 1944.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_20_Plot

The_MadMan
03-08-2005, 11:11 AM
I don't think the killing of Hitler would have solved anything. It would only create another bagstab theory in which Germany was betrayed again and thus robbed of the final victory.

All the allied leaders agreed that the death of Hitler would not create a lasting peace. Germany had to be totally defeated so they would know what war really meant. That there was nobody but Hitler and his clan to blame for the ruins and the defeat.

Mailman
03-08-2005, 11:55 AM
The Wehrmacht were defeated by the Soviet armies on the eastern front. The forces on the western front on and after D-Day included wounded, old men and young boys. There were SS Divisions too, but the German War aspirations were defeated in late 1942 at Stalingrad. It just took another three years to bring that defeat home to Herr Hitler in Berlin.

This is a common mistake made by arm chair historians.

The Germans could easily absorb the losses of the 6th Army in Stalingrad or the losses or men and material on the Normandy front BUT it could not absorb the losses of both of these defeats (well over 1 million men in total).

WWII was not won at Stalingrad or on the beaches of Normandy alone, WWII was won because of Stalingrad AND the Normandy operations combined together.

Mailman

sp2c
03-08-2005, 12:43 PM
and Africa and the battle for brittain and so on and so on.

there was no single event responsible for the outcome of the war (yeah maybe Hitlers decision to start it) it was a large more or less allied puzzle that when fitted together properly spelled doom for nazi germany

panzerjager
03-08-2005, 01:50 PM
The Wehrmacht were defeated by the Soviet armies on the eastern front. The forces on the western front on and after D-Day included wounded, old men and young boys. There were SS Divisions too


Tell that BS to the 60,000 dead we left in Normandy. Also, Operation Bagration or destruction of armee gruppe mitte was much more devastating than Stalingrad.

Sayeret
03-08-2005, 06:13 PM
and Africa and the battle for brittain and so on and so on.

there was no single event responsible for the outcome of the war (yeah maybe Hitlers decision to start it) it was a large more or less allied puzzle that when fitted together properly spelled doom for nazi germany

True

Sayeret
03-08-2005, 06:22 PM
I don't think the killing of Hitler would have solved anything. It would only create another bagstab theory in which Germany was betrayed again and thus robbed of the final victory.

All the allied leaders agreed that the death of Hitler would not create a lasting peace. Germany had to be totally defeated so they would know what war really meant. That there was nobody but Hitler and his clan to blame for the ruins and the defeat.

The July 20th had more to it then just the killing of Hitler. Stauffenberg and his conspirators had planned on taking power of Germany and stopping the war so that Germany could end the war while they still had some land. Also Stauffenberg and some of the other conspirators had been against the genocide that had been carried out by the Nazis against the Jews, Slavs, and other ethnic groups. Along with not killing Hitler, the reserve army troops who were supposed to be used in the coup were not used because of General Friedrich Olbricht did.

The below is a list of known assassination plots & attempts directed against Adolf Hitler, both before and during his time as leader of Germany, some were no more than ideas but serious attempts were made as well, the best known being the one on 20 July 1944.


Date Location Assassin / Plotter
July 1921 Munich ? (shots fired at Hitler during a rally at the Hofbräuhaus)
1923 Leipzig ? (shots fired at his car)
15 Mar 1932 Munich-Weimar ? (shots fired at the train car Hitler, Joseph Goebbels & Dr. Wilhelm Frick was in)
June 1932 Stralsund ? (ambush on a road near Stralsund)
30 July 1932 Nuremberg ?
4 Mar 1933 Köningsberg Kurt Luttner (arrested 3 Mar for planning to kill Hitler with a bomb at a rally in Köningsberg 4 Mar)
1933-34 ? At least 10 attempts or plots came to the attention of the authorities, no additional details known
1933 Obersalzberg ? (a man in a SA-leaders uniform is arrested and a gun is found on him)
1934 ? Ernst Röhm & Julius Uhl (most likely only alleged)
1936 Nuremberg Helmut Hirsch (Hirsch, a Jewish student, confessed to having been sent by Otto Strasser to kill Hitler with a bomb)
1937-38 ? Émigré groups mainly in Czechoslovakia, but also in Switzerland & Great Britain, plotted to kill Hitler, but nothing came of it
Nov 1937 Berlin Josef Thomas (Thomas, a mentally ill man from Elberfeld was arrested by the Gestapo 26 Nov 1937, he had travelled to Berlin to shoot Hitler and Hermann Göring)
Apr 1938 Munich Alexander Foote (Foote, an Englishman working as a spy for the USSR investigated the possibilities of assassinating Hitler, succeeding to get close to him in his favourite restaurant, Osteria Bavaria, without any problem)
1938 Berlin F.W. Heinz (plans were made to arrest Hitler during the Sudetenland crisis and Heinz, who were to lead those responsible for the arrest, decided to kill him instead. The crisis was solved politically.)
1938 Munich Maurice Bavaud (Bavaud, a Swiss theology student, made several attempts to shoot Hitler, but failed and was arrested when trying to leave the country by train without a valid ticket)
1938-39 Berlin Colonel Noel Mason-MacFarlane (Mason-MacFarlane, the Britsh Military Attaché, investigated the possibilities of assassinating Hitler, but his ideas were rejected in London)
8 Nov 1939 Munich Georg Elser (Elser planted a bomb in the Bürgerbräukeller. Hitler left 21:07 and the bomb went off 21:20, killing eight people)
11 Nov 1939 Berlin Dr Erich Kordt (Kordt, head of Joachim von Ribbentrop's personal secretariat, planned to kill Hitler the day before the planned offensive against France)
1939 Berlin Generaloberst Franz Halder (Halder, Chief of the General Staff, repeatedly went to see Hitler with a loaded gun planning to shoot him)
July 1940 Paris Oberleutnant d. R. Fritz-Dietlof Graf von der Schulenburg, Dr Eugen Gerstenmaier (they planned to kill Hitler during the planned victory parade in Paris)
1943 Walki General der Gebirgstruppen Hubert Lanz, Generalmajor Dr Hans Speidel, Oberst Hyazinth Graf Strachwitz (they planned to arrest Hitler when he can to visit the troops near Poltawa)
Mar 1943 Smolensk Major Friedrich König (König planned to shoot Hitler during his visit to Smolensk)
Mar 1943 Smolensk Generalmajor Henning von Tresckow, Leutnant Fabian von Schlabrendorff, Oberst Rudolf-Christoph Freiherr von Gersdorff (they placed a bomb on Hitlers aircraft, a Focke-Wulf 200 Condor, but it failed to explode)
13 Mar 1943 Berlin Oberst Rudolf-Christoph Freiherr von Gersdorff (attempted to kill Hitler with a bomb during an exhibition of captured Soviet equipment at the Berlin Zeughaus)
Dec 1943 Wolfschanze Hauptmann Axel Freiherr von dem Busche-Streithorst (planned to kill Hitler with a bomb, but the show was postponed)
1944 Wolfschanze Ewald von Kleist (planned to kill Hitler with a bomb, but the show was postponed)
11 Mar 1944 Obersalzberg Hauptmann Eberhard von Breitenbuch (planned to shoot Hitler, but could not get access to him)
6 July 1944 Obersalzberg Oberst Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg (brought a bomb to Obersalzberg)
11 July 1944 Obersalzberg Oberst Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg (brought a bomb to Obersalzberg, but as Hermann Göring and Heinrich Himmler was not present, it was not used)
20 July 1944 Wolfschanze Oberst Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg (placed a bomb in the situation room, killing four people, but only wounding Hitler)
1945 Berlin Albert Speer (planned to kill Hitler using gas)