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wholagun
03-08-2005, 02:00 PM
New coast guard vessels to be built in Poland

Five new vessels for the Norwegian Coast Guard will be built by by the Gryfia Shipyard in Stettin, Poland, with an option to build another five ships.

The cost will be a bit more than NOK 60 million per vessel.


This made it impossible for Norwegian yards to compete. The lowest Norwegian bid was reportedly NOK 7-8 million higher than that from the Polish yard, according to NRK.

The new vessels will replace older ships, and will be equipped to carry out fishery inspection, rescue missions as well as police and customs patrols.

The first vessel will be delivered sometime before next summer.

(NRK)

http://www.norwaypost.no/content.asp?folder_id=7&cluster_id=27351


Hey Norwegian forumers, you guys got any info on this or any pics of the ships?

Ah I love cheap labour costs :D 5 ships for 60 million NOK that is 300 NOK million I have no idea what that is in Polish Zlotys, or USD for that matter, anyone know?
There is option for 5 more ships too, so the shipyard could get 600 million NOK - lots of money for our shipyard.

Mrufka
03-08-2005, 02:31 PM
That's good news for our shipyard in Szczecin.
1 $ USD = 2.93 PLN (zloty)
1 NOK = 0,47 PLN (zloty) ;)

Regards

_Samez_
03-08-2005, 02:33 PM
60000000NOK = 28464000PLN = 9696804USD

5*9696804USD=48484020USD

Cheaper than one Kaszub Class vessel.

(correct me if I make a mistake – sorry for my English)

EDIT:
ehh... byłeś szybszy mrówka :)

fantassin
03-08-2005, 03:09 PM
Poland has also built parts for some French navy ships recently.

Good value for money and it helps finishing off some badly managed, ultra unionised state sponsored French shipyards.

Good !

Herrmannek
03-08-2005, 03:25 PM
Good value for money and it helps finishing off some badly managed, ultra unionised state sponsored French shipyards.
Like our aren't :)

Darth Vidar
03-08-2005, 03:46 PM
My employer bid on that contract to build and operate a couple of those vessels.
I was hoping they would get the contract, cause then I would have been in an excellent position to work there as an (civilian) officer since that is my profession. The crew will be a mix of civilian and military.
Unluckily for me someone else made a better offer to the coast guard………

I think my company had planned to build them in Norway if they got the contract…..

Btw here is a link to a site which show what they will look like.

http://www.smp.no/default.asp?page=1024&item=171541,1&lang=1

Zielony
03-08-2005, 04:05 PM
hmm... as for me good news :D hehe Polish SHIPYARDS are really good a lot of ships in the world are from Poland :) ( and here is a kind of paradox ( or how do you write it :D ) most of Polish Shipyards are half bankrupt lol


pozdr z WRocka

Darth Vidar
03-08-2005, 04:25 PM
Most Norwegian ships today have their steel hulls made in Romania, then a tugboat tow the hull to a Norwegian shipyard, where the interior, electronics, engines and other stuff is fitted.....

A Norwegian welder costs up to 5-6 times (maybe more) pr hour, so it kind of make sense. :|

Polish shipyards are mostly used by norwegian companies for docking, sandblasting and paintjobs.
I think polish shipyards do a good job, but the shipowner has to pay extra if he suddenly comes up with more jobs for the shipyard then the original contract says.....

There is also quite a few polish sailors on Norwegian ships, I have worked with a few of them....nice guys really.
I even learnt a few polish sentences and words from them...........
"Dobre notz" to all you polish guys. :)

wholagun
03-08-2005, 05:37 PM
I recall something last year about Gdansk shipyard building biggest chemical ships of that sort in the world.

One benefit that Western European shipyards have is that they are interior and can work year round and that ensures that stuff like fiber glass and other stuff is treated at the proper temperature. If im not mistaken Sczeczin doesn't have indoor shipyard - but I could be mistaken

There is lots of potential for western investors in Polish shipyards if they invest in indoor dry dock because we have cheap labour and that means more contacts can be won, which means profit for the owners. This goes a long way to help out our bankrupt shipyards.


Anyone got pics of these ships?

Steve Railsback
03-08-2005, 10:45 PM
I believe it is this one
Kystvakt ST-610
http://www.mil.no/multimedia/archive/00050/3D_ST-610-foreHS_50145a.jpg

Length: 47 m
Width: 10 m
Speed: 17 knot
Engine: 2000 KW based on diesel electric propulsion
Towing capacity: 20 ton +
Depth: 3,25 m
Depl.: 700 ton Dimensions

thanks Poland :hug:

Darth Vidar
03-09-2005, 03:13 AM
Link to ships-designer: Skipsteknisk

http://www.skipsteknisk.no/

The design looks nice, the only thing that worries me is the bollard pull of only 20+ tonnes.
That’s not enough to stop an 200m long loaded oil tanker already adrift in bad weather…..

bloddyaxe
03-09-2005, 04:37 AM
Interesting ship. Looks like it has similar capabilities as our coast guards vessels, yet it is smaller.

What about the other Norwegian coast guard vessels.
How big is the biggest ship they got?

perdurabo
03-09-2005, 05:49 AM
Poland has also built parts for some French navy ships recently.

Good value for money and it helps finishing off some badly managed, ultra unionised state sponsored French shipyards.

Good !
yep front parts of Mistral and Tonerre desant ships

Darth Vidar
03-09-2005, 06:09 AM
Bloodyaxe.

Two biggest types of KV-vessels are:

http://www.mil.no/sjo/kv/start/fartoyer/svalvard/


And some of an older type like this one, KV Senja:

http://www.bergenships.com/KV%20Senja.html
http://www.mil.no/sjo/kv/start/fartoyer/nordkappklassen/


In addition they have some nice mediumsize ships like KV Aalesund:

http://www.mil.no/sjo/kv/start/fartoyer/tromsoe_alesund/

Steve Railsback
03-09-2005, 02:18 PM
Interesting ship. Looks like it has similar capabilities as our coast guards vessels, yet it is smaller.

What about the other Norwegian coast guard vessels.
How big is the biggest ship they got?

The new class that is being built in Poland will operate close to the Norwegian coast and not out on the high seas as the bigger classes do.

The biggest one is KV Svalbard
http://www.jan-mayen.no/nyhet/nyhet2004/2004-08_aug/kvsvalbard3.jpg
http://www.22mtb.com/Loggbok-bilder/uke47/aalesund_spyler.jpg

The Norwegian Coast Guard have also recently commissioned KV Harstad into service, this is more a tug boat with its 100 ton towing capacity
http://www.mil.no/multimedia/archive/00038/harstad_38960a.jpg