View Full Version : Aljazeera: US-Brit war killed 55,000 Iraqi civilians
jdbjdb
11-11-2003, 10:03 PM
The invasion, war and occupation of Iraq has cost up to 55,000 civilian lives
Now the medical charity is lobbying the American and British governments to focus urgently on the healthcare needs of the Iraqi population, following the invasion of the country.
Medact's damning report highlighting the devastating impact of war on the Iraqi population, reveals that between 22,000 and 55,000 Iraqi civilians died during the bombing of the country.
The report titled, Continuing Collateral Damage: the health and environmental costs of war on Iraq, says that the American and British occupiers are obliged under international law to ensure that the healthcare needs of the population are met.
I do not believe that number died at the hands of the Britts and Americans.
Vance
11-11-2003, 10:06 PM
Even the most liberal sites say at most, 10,000.... :cantbeli:
Seoulstriker
11-11-2003, 10:28 PM
It is my expert opinion, as an analyst for Al Jazeera, that 10,000,000 women and children in Iraq were killed by American Yankee Bastard Infidels.
usa320
11-11-2003, 10:37 PM
My feeling is the number of civilians casualties is far fewer than 10,000... Probably 2-5 thousand.
PRoblem is that dead Fedayeen dont look all that different from a dead civilian.
jdbjdb
11-11-2003, 10:52 PM
They went to one of the local mass graves and added them to the list. Arabs exaggerate when it comes to counting the dead to sway public opinion.
mocking_loudly_died
11-12-2003, 12:58 AM
Bah, I killed well over a million civilians and I was home in my comfy living room during the whole event.
Kaboom!
MarineSniper8541
11-12-2003, 01:02 AM
However many it was...there should have been more. I personally could not care one bit less if every single Iraqi beating heart suddenly stopped all at once.
And just so you dont have to waste time flaming me...yes I am a hate monger toward them and comepletely and totally predjudiced against them and any other nation who has caused the current world situation to be what it is, even if it was the fault of their leadership and not the individual citizen.
If they had half the balls that our forefathers had in 1776, maybe I would respect them.
Any nation full of pu**ies who cant manage to rise up and boot a dictator after 30 years of oppression deserves to be put down. NO EXCUSES.
And yes, they ARE pu**ies. Not only did the coalition roll over them like asphalt, but now those opposing the coalition cant even stand up and fight like men. They are killing individual troops like cowards.
And the regular civilians who exponentially outnumber the militant activists that are killing coalition soldiers are doing nothing to prevent it....pu**ies. They all need to die. Problem solved. Sell Iraq off as a giant parking lot.
hahaha
11-12-2003, 01:23 AM
"They are killing individual troops like cowards".....
so you're saying that cowards are better soldiers than your own ?
Seraphim
11-12-2003, 01:26 AM
Marine...if you even are one...if you so wish that to happen you are no better than them.
mocking_loudly_died
11-12-2003, 01:41 AM
Sorry to offend any one but Marine sounds like an idiot. :lol:
Kill Kill Kill! rofl
Do you want a hug?, no really?
However many it was...there should have been more. I personally could not care one bit less if every single Iraqi beating heart suddenly stopped all at once.
And just so you dont have to waste time flaming me...yes I am a hate monger toward them and comepletely and totally predjudiced against them and any other nation who has caused the current world situation to be what it is, even if it was the fault of their leadership and not the individual citizen.
If they had half the balls that our forefathers had in 1776, maybe I would respect them.
Any nation full of pu**ies who cant manage to rise up and boot a dictator after 30 years of oppression deserves to be put down. NO EXCUSES.
And yes, they ARE pu**ies. Not only did the coalition roll over them like asphalt, but now those opposing the coalition cant even stand up and fight like men. They are killing individual troops like cowards.
And the regular civilians who exponentially outnumber the militant activists that are killing coalition soldiers are doing nothing to prevent it....pu**ies. They all need to die. Problem solved. Sell Iraq off as a giant parking lot.
Like I said before your ego will kill you. Iraqis have resisted more than your 1776 war.
They had more balls than your 1776 war. They reissted even though they knew if they got caught they will be tortured. Yet they fought. In the 90's the US ALLOWED saddam hussein to use his helicopters to supress the revolution. So if it wasnt for your country the Iraqis wouldnt need your help. And they never did ask for your help in the first place.
So don't go around saying they deserve to die you racist bastard.
reveals that between 22,000 and 55,000 Iraqi civilians died during the bombing of the country
I'm loving that spread. Between 1 and 10,000,000,000,000 people died in Iraq between yesterday and 3943 B.C.. How can they even call themselves a journalistic entity when the number is so amazingly vague? I'd be rich off football if they gave spreads like that.
martinexsquaddie
11-12-2003, 06:33 AM
with an attitude like Marine sniper no wonder the US occupation is going to hell
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
11-12-2003, 07:18 AM
Well MarineSniper you are offically the new metro****** of militaryphotos.net rofl
Ok big guy time to wake up from your Wet dream and go back to working at Staples...
spoonman
11-12-2003, 07:35 AM
They had more balls than your 1776 war. They reissted even though they knew if they got caught they will be tortured.
uh...i'm pretty sure the british were fond of hanging anyone they caught that was associated with the continentals during the 1776 war. how could the iraqis resist more and still not upset a dictator? flawed logic permiates these boards to the core.
Mortimer
11-12-2003, 08:09 AM
Al-Jezeera didn't release those figures
an independant (British) study did.
and its "During the Iraq War" so any time by anyone
Mortimer
11-12-2003, 08:26 AM
ANd they deffinently said between 7 and 10 thousands civilians
the rest were military ( iraq and US)
Al-Jezeera have distorted the ACTUAL report
usa320
11-12-2003, 03:13 PM
Ok, how many of these guys were killed by Us, and how many were found in Saddams mass graves and people shredders?
;)
Or more importantly how many were killed by the US while being put through the people shredders?
budanski
11-12-2003, 04:16 PM
Why don't they go and investigate how many Iraqis were killed under Saddam and his Baathists?
Oh ok that's not on the 'agenda' I see.
Claymore
11-12-2003, 05:07 PM
Unfortunately, it will be impossible to find even close numbers.
Btw, how many american died in 9/11 attacks? http://www.newyorkmetro.com/news/articles/wtc/1year/numbers.htm says 2,819.
How many civilians has died in Afganistan and Iraq because of "war on terror" ?
"At least 3,500 Civilians Killed in Afghanistan by US Bombs"
http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/analysis/1213casualities.htm
"What causes the documented high level of civilian casualties -- 3,000 - 3,400 [October 7, 2001 thru March 2002] civilian deaths..."
http://www.cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm
"Iraqi civilians: More than 1250 killed (Minimum Iraqi estimates as of April 3) "
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/10/1049567814312.html
"BAGHDAD At least 3,240 civilians died across Iraq during a month of war, including 1,896 in Baghdad, according to a five-week investigation by The Associated Press."
http://www.iht.com/articles/99173.html
Sorry, I couldn't find casualty reports of afgan/iraqi civilians from official US Govt sources. Maybe it was me or google.
What happened in 9/11 was very unjustified and very unacceptable, but still current situation of "war on terror" makes me think, how many non-american civilian casualties must come before you are "even" with the bad guys. 6000? 12000? 30000? Is life of american civilian more expensive than life of "foreigner"? When the "justified avenger" becomes worse than the original attacker?
radon
11-12-2003, 05:19 PM
It would just have been better for everyone if Bush senior had conquered Iraq 12-13 years ago.
spier
11-12-2003, 05:31 PM
"We don't do body counts."
General Tommy Franks, US Central Command
For once, he wasn't lying! The truth is, nobody have an exact body count. Guess its hard to add up the pieces after a good carpet bombing..
Radon, look down.
Claymore
11-12-2003, 05:35 PM
It would just have been better for everyone if Bush senior had conquered Iraq 12-13 years ago.
Errr....how? :roll:
Ok...iraqi people killed by Uncle Saddam between Desert Storm and Iraqi "Freedom" makes the diffirence.
radon
11-12-2003, 05:41 PM
and the sanctions.
2000 palstinian dead in3 years of war...most of them terorists....
what ?
Claymore
11-12-2003, 05:47 PM
Nowadays it's too handy to name people terrorists and the wipe them out "legally".
I didn't say nothing....but this a fact that 2000 palstinian died in 3 years of war....(and about 800 jews all of them are inccent)
And in 7 moth of war in iraq (that i support that war 100%)
about 10,000 iraqi were killed.
Vance
11-12-2003, 05:56 PM
I'd say at the most, 3,000.
Frankly I'm suprised we got over 1,000 in the first place.
spier
11-12-2003, 06:28 PM
I'd say at the most, 3,000.
Frankly I'm suprised we got over 1,000 in the first place.What do you base that estimate on?*
*apart from what is commonly known as bull ****?
Mortimer
11-12-2003, 10:32 PM
you guys are being awfully defensive....
its just a report, they are done all the time. its independant and most likely accurate and appears to be free from bias.
they haven't said it was 10,000, they haven't said it was 3000 they gave an estimate.
People need a rough idea and thats all this reoprt is.
James
11-12-2003, 10:41 PM
reveals that between 22,000 and 55,000 Iraqi civilians died during the bombing of the country.
I heard the same numbers on a radio report, but they were mostly military casualties (someone already mentioned this), with about 10K dead civilians.
sasr2
11-12-2003, 11:23 PM
800 Israelis killed - all innocent, yet 2000 palestinians dead are ALL terrorists ???
UoUo, no wonder your country has problems...you can't tell the difference between an 8 year old throwing a few rocks, and a suicide bomber????
Gordon
11-12-2003, 11:24 PM
It would just have been better for everyone if Bush senior had conquered Iraq 12-13 years ago.
Errr....how? :roll:
Ok...iraqi people killed by Uncle Saddam between Desert Storm and Iraqi "Freedom" makes the diffirence.
Umm ... how do you mean by how ... isn't it pretty obvious "how" - if they objectives of the Gulf War had been extended Saddam could have been removed from power, there were far more, somewhere around twice as many, I think, combat troops on his doorstep than there are now in Iraq. Do you mean that if they had entered Iraq then they would have failed to dispose Saddam ... please explain.
And that Marinesniper, I think he's called, is a total moron.
Andyman
11-12-2003, 11:44 PM
I didn't say nothing....but this a fact that 2000 palstinian died in 3 years of war....(and about 800 jews all of them are inccent)
I love the "all of them were innocent" ending on that post don't worry I don't think you're biased in any way. :roll:
More Palestinian civilians have died due to Israeli miss fire than Israelis have died at the hands of cowardly suicide bombers. Are you saying that not one Palestinian casualty over the past three years has been an unnecessary loss of an innocent life? are you saying that it doesnt matter when a little Palestinian girl dies but if an Israeli girl dies it means all the difference? Are you saying that Israeli lives are worth more than Palestinian lives?
By god I hope not :cantbeli:
If I'm wrong than reclarify your statement, by umm gee better stating what kinds of People specifically you are talking about. Whether you like it or not, soldiers remove themselves from the innocent platform, when they carry a gun and shoot people terrorist or not. Soldiers are not innocent victims they are key players in a game called war!!!
Beowulf
11-12-2003, 11:46 PM
Nowadays it's too handy to name people terrorists and the wipe them out "legally".
That sounds like something a terrorist would say.........
Claymore
11-13-2003, 10:54 AM
Nowadays it's too handy to name people terrorists and the wipe them out "legally".
That sounds like something a terrorist would say.........
Yes of course, and all the people who won't eat everything media and governments give.
And yes, USA has right to protect itself and kill all the terrorists who are responsible for planning
and executing 9/11 attack (and I'm happy every time I hear/read about eliminated Al-Qaeda terrorist). Most of terrorist has chosen themselves their "career" and know that they may have to pay the ultimate price for their acts.
But the civilians are diffirent thing. Civilians just live there where the bombs fall and don't threaten anyone. War on terror begun because about
2800 americans (most civilians) died. If becoming terrorist hunt kills 10000-30000 civilians somewhere else,
who are worse.....terrorists or "justified avengers"?
800 Israelis killed - all innocent, yet 2000 palestinians dead are ALL terrorists ???
UoUo, no wonder your country has problems...you can't tell the difference between an 8 year old throwing a few rocks, and a suicide bomber????
WTF ?
where did i say that all of them were terrorists ???
:cantbeli: :cantbeli:
But this a fact that all the israeli deads in israeli terotry were inccent. (like the fact that all the people in 9/11 were inccent)
I didn't say nothing....but this a fact that 2000 palstinian died in 3 years of war....(and about 800 jews all of them are inccent)
I love the "all of them were innocent" ending on that post don't worry I don't think you're biased in any way. :roll:
More Palestinian civilians have died due to Israeli miss fire than Israelis have died at the hands of cowardly suicide bombers. Are you saying that not one Palestinian casualty over the past three years has been an unnecessary loss of an innocent life? are you saying that it doesnt matter when a little Palestinian girl dies but if an Israeli girl dies it means all the difference? Are you saying that Israeli lives are worth more than Palestinian lives?
By god I hope not :cantbeli:
If I'm wrong than reclarify your statement, by umm gee better stating what kinds of People specifically you are talking about. Whether you like it or not, soldiers remove themselves from the innocent platform, when they carry a gun and shoot people terrorist or not. Soldiers are not innocent victims they are key players in a game called war!!!
You are really stupaid or what ? were did i say that all of the palstinian were terrorists ?
BTW : I didn't forgot the "hitler ****" of yours....
soo....i know with who i am dealing with.
Claymore
11-13-2003, 11:06 AM
It would just have been better for everyone if Bush senior had conquered Iraq 12-13 years ago.
Errr....how? :roll:
Ok...iraqi people killed by Uncle Saddam between Desert Storm and Iraqi "Freedom" makes the diffirence.
Umm ... how do you mean by how ... isn't it pretty obvious "how" - if they objectives of the Gulf War had been extended Saddam could have been removed from power, there were far more, somewhere around twice as many, I think, combat troops on his doorstep than there are now in Iraq. Do you mean that if they had entered Iraq then they would have failed to dispose Saddam ... please explain.
And that Marinesniper, I think he's called, is a total moron.
Someone has already explained that.
"Had we gone the invasion route, the U.S. could still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."
-- George Bush Sr., 1998
Would have that prevented 9/11? No...i don't think so. Even invading every arab country in the world will not stop attacks. It would only increase them. If USA really wants to solve problems, it has to realise first that bombing people won't make friends.
Claymore
11-13-2003, 11:20 AM
But this a fact that all the israeli deads in israeli terotry were inccent. (like the fact that all the people in 9/11 were inccent)
Define innocent. Were israeli soldiers innocent? Were employees of Pentagon innocent?
Andyman
11-13-2003, 02:51 PM
UoUo what the hell does that have to do with anything. Cry me a river honestly, Hitler blah blah blah, "I know who I'm dealing with"
What do you want me to say, I know that I'm dealing with a biased shut in Israeli. Your biased buddy and I thought your comment was moronic, clearly judging by the output so far other people agree with that fact as well. The fact of the matter is, not all Israelis were innocent and not all Palestinians were blood thirsty terrorists as you so eloquently seem to put it. If you dont have anything intelligent to say then don't speak at all yah knob gobbling whore. :backhand: rofl :bash:
WARPIG
11-13-2003, 03:09 PM
innocent and not innocent... are you all stupid??
Try using combatant and non-combatants instead. I swear it's like watching a neutered Dachshund lick his nuts in here sometimes.
Are you guys really arguing about deaths? Polls will show deaths since the start of Iraqi Freedom from hospitals and blame it on the war. Big deal. If 150 Iraqi people die of malnutrition because Saddam Hussein was spending money on his swimming pool for the newest palace.. polls will say it was from the US trade block. 50 Iraqi's die of cancer and guess what? Death toll goes up for the Iraqi Freedom Poll. Everyone with half a friggin brain knows there is no accurate way to count deaths from the war.
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