First France, now Russia ...

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Putin reaffirms Russia's right to preemptive strikes (http://sg.news.yahoo.com/031104/1/3fkih.html)

President Vladimir Putin has reaffirmed his position that Russia can resort to preemptive military strikes because the policy is also practiced by the United States.

"If the principle of preventive use of force continues to develop in international practice, then Russia reserves the right to act in an analogous manner to defend its national interests," Putin said in an interview whose transcript was released Tuesday.

"All nuclear powers are improving their nuclear potential and Russia will do the same," Putin said in an interview with Italian journalists ahead of this week's visit to Rome, according to Interfax.

"But our nuclear policy, as opposed, say, to that of the Soviet Union, is not directed at anyone, it is directed only at strengthening our security," Putin said.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov in October said that Russia would re-evaluate its nuclear stance should NATO remain a military alliance with an "offensive" doctrine.

But later, speaking in the United States, he assured NATO countries that Moscow was not seeking to adopt a preemptive nuclear strategy.

"Russia still regards nuclear weapons as a means of political deterrence. We do not envisage a scenario or a situation where we would use such weapons first," said Ivanov on October 9.

Putin in late October said that Russia still planned to rely on its massive nuclear arsenal for decades to come despite signing a broad disarmament agreement with the United States last year.

He said Russia has a "significant amount" of SS-19 intercontinental ballistic missiles that had never previously deployed -- and were thus not part of disarmament negotiations -- and which remain mothballed for emergency use.

He said they would be the perfect weapon for breaking through a potential missile defense shield that has been heavily backed by US President George W. Bush.

"These rockets could easily break through any missile shield for decades to come," Putin warned.

He said the SS-19 could function for up to 25 more years and gradually replace decommissioned missiles.

"In the meantime, we will begin producing new strategic weapons that will guarantee are strategic nuclear missile deterrence system," he said.

:lol:

[Vance]

Oh shi, Putin warned us, run to your homes :cantbeli:

[Russian Texan]

Good for Russia, bad for whoever is on the recieving end. But the question is against who can they possibly use SS19, may be Poland :) (joke)

Here is the article about the man who saved the world
http://aboutfacts.net/People4.htm

[StarvingStudent47]

Oh shi, Putin warned us, run to your homes :cantbeli:

Yeah, but Putin has two assets that Chirac doesn't:
1) cojones
2) a brain

When combined with the compassion of a salt-water crocodile, that adds up to one powerful politician. The good news is, Putin is too smart to use nuclear weapons except in the most extreme of circumstances. He's just rattling his sabre right now to further other political goals.

[Vance]

Well, he does have 10,000 more nukes than us, so, he's not someone you'd wanna mess with. :P

[Ratamacue]

10,000 huh? That's nothing. That's only a few more times the world could be destroyed.

[tony6]

Well Texan-kickin' Poland's ass is the best You can do with Your poor under-funded military.
If You wanted to fight USA now they would kick Your ass, wouldn't they?
Your paper-empire crushed and there's nothing You can do about it, right?

[StarvingStudent47]

Well Texan-kickin' Poland's ass is the best You can do with Your poor under-funded military.
If You wanted to fight USA now they would kick Your ass, wouldn't they?
Your paper-empire crushed and there's nothing You can do about it, right?

...and that's the end of this thread. Move along folks, nothing to see here...

[Vance]

Well Texan-kickin' Poland's ass is the best You can do with Your poor under-funded military.
If You wanted to fight USA now they would kick Your ass, wouldn't they?
Your paper-empire crushed and there's nothing You can do about it, right?
I love broken english

[tony6]

I love American people-most of them thinks that Europe is one state:)

[tony6]

P.S.
I would like to hear You say this in Polish language (on of 10 most difficult languages in the world like language-scientists say).
Wanna try?

[wholagun]

But the question is against who can they possibly use SS19, may be Poland (joke)


Oh, I bet your just dying to nuke Poland anrn't you. What's stopping you? What was that? Oooohhhh NATOOO!!! Oh yeah!!! :cantbeli: Almost forgot about that one. :cantbeli:

[UoUo]

*Joke

[Russian Texan]

I'd say Tony is about 16 although I might be a few years off. Listen man, it was a JOKE related to another conversation but I guess you are slow on pick up. Go buy some sense of humor and while you at it buy some brain too....

You may consider it an official statement: Russia doesn't care about countries like Honduras, Burkina Faso, Botswana, Burundi, Palau, Poland, Papua New Guinea and such. So you can relax, no SS 18,19,22 or others will be flying Polands way unless I come to power in Russia :) IT WAS A JOKE ALSO

[Seoulstriker]

The soviet union had the capability during the 80s to release enough biological weapons spores to kill the world ten times over. :|

i wouldn't want to mess with that.

[Dmitri]

Well Texan-kickin' Poland's ass is the best You can do with Your poor under-funded military.
Stop running your cockholster, I'm sure Putin would be really scared of Grom as Poland's super secret preemtptive weapon rofl


If You wanted to fight USA now they would kick Your ass, wouldn't they?
Your paper-empire crushed and there's nothing You can do about it, right?Oh my gosh, now you're gonna start crying and hide behind US skirt??? That's pityful, I bet y'all can't do **** without US, and that GROM performance in Iraq.... please, my shoesoles are laughing at that... so far I don't think they did anything of any significance but taking couple platforms that had almost no resistance forces, and you all are bragging about it so much??? Just wanted to lick some of your daddy's ass, didn't you??? rofl
Paper-empire??? There is no nead for an empire to whoop some polish ass anyway, and those US funds wouldn't help you either. So just be proud of some past sub-century war that you won, and keep on licking, may be somebody else will drop another bone :roll:

[Russian Texan]

Dmitri how is army reserve working out for you, what are doing there?

[Herrmannek]

Oh my gosh, now you're gonna start crying and hide behind US skirt???

Don't want to nitpick, but last time you had major trubels you did the same, and still you are recipents of USA finansial help so STFU :) .

[Russian Texan]

Oh my gosh, now you're gonna start crying and hide behind US skirt???

Don't want to nitpick, but last time you had major trubels you did the same, and still you are recipents of USA finansial help so STFU :) .


Uh? :o

[Dmitri]

Dmitri how is army reserve working out for you, what are doing there? Its cool, thanks, I'm in 48th Brigade Mechanized Infantry, right now I'm a gunner on the Bradley :lol: Friday I'm going to Ft. Stewart for personal and crew weapon qualification, and I should be pinned as a Specialist there too. Its fun. How about you, where did you take that pic of doing pull-ups with some Marines?


Don't want to nitpick, but last time you had major trubels you did the same, and still you are recipents of USA finansial help so STFU .Nope, do you lick banks ass when you take the loan there?? Its more like they are happy to give it to you... All that happened is Russia borrowed some mone with a huge interest, and they have good economic partenrship now anyway. So STFU ;)

[Herrmannek]

Uh? :o

WWII :)

[tony6]

To all you-freakin' Russian guys-I know it hurts when Your "empire" is crumbling but face the truth-it's over.
It's not the right time (I'm drinkin' vodka with my friends:) but still-"Russia doesn't care about countries like Honduras, Burkina Faso, Botswana, Burundi, Palau, Poland, Papua New Guinea and such"-yes, I know what You mean-Poland is part of the NATO & EU and you can do nothing about it. The "empire" is over-I know it hurts.
I apologize to all of guys who read this-but I can't stand being offended by some Russians. No hard feelings-I just wanted to...
...and I thin to myself-what I wonderfull world. I just heard this song on the radio-Louis Armstrong is kickin' ass, man:)
Sorry folks but I'm really drunk:)
O yeah!

[Russian Texan]

Uh? :o

WWII :)

Aaaaah WW2, yeah right... forgot about that one

[Dmitri]

Yeah, you better be drunk, or otherwise you are retarded. What empire do you keep talking about??? Hellooo, SU fell apart 14 years ago, or you are still melancholic about that time?

Poland is part of the NATO & EU and you can do nothing about it. That's exactly what I was saying, you are proud that your country is hiding behind skirts of stronger nations? Wow, bravo woot

[Herrmannek]

That's exactly what I was saying, you are proud that your country is hiding behind skirts of stronger nations? Wow, bravo woot

The question who is hiding behind who in NATO is still open. But I'm sure we will know the answer when we go to war with mighty Russia :).

[Dmitri]

The question who is hiding behind who in NATO is still open. ??? Oh, ok, I'm sure US is hiding behing Poland

[Herrmannek]

The question who is hiding behind who in NATO is still open. Oh, ok, I'm sure US is hiding behing Poland
We are or were (my info isn't up to date lately :) ) first fronitier of the NATO so hiding behind someone is rather difficult, Its up to you from what side of earth you'll start conquering new libensraum :)

[wholagun]

That's exactly what I was saying, you are proud that your country is hiding behind skirts of stronger nations? Wow, bravo

Just as proud as Stalin was when he used Poland (and East Germany) to put distance between Russia and the West (US) ;)

[perdurabo]

okok now stop it we all know that "mnighty" russia wont attack Poland (they are too stupid to be scared of us ;-)*Joke) nad Poland won't attrack this tiger of economics ;-) (we don't need cold siberia i prefer we counqer tunesia or canaris island) so stop fighting.
BTW jeah russia with help can deafeat us but as history show when you attack alone you get screwd and you loss so buzzoff (1920 and Warsaw battle)

[fantassin]

Can blame Chirac for many things but not for lack of balls; he, unlike Blair and Bush, fought in a war, spending 26 months in Algeria in a cavalry unit and winning the equivalent of a bronze star or Mention in Despatch for an action in which he fought off a rebel group that was trying to surround a neighbouring unit.

Having seen war at first hand, not in an Air National Guard unit safely tucked away in Texas while the rest of his country was fighting in Vietnam, Chirac knows what suffering war brings; at first hand, not through the internet, Fox News, CNN or SOF....

[GazB]

No real surprises here. One major power... and a few unimportant ones claims the Right to something it calls preemptive self defence. It is only to be expected that other nations around the world will want parity whether they agree with the morals of it or not. (Preemptive self defence is an excellent description of Japans attack on Pearl harbour... the US hadn't attacked them yet, but was the most capable of taking them on in the region.)

[StarvingStudent47]

To all you-freakin' Russian guys-I know it hurts when Your "empire" is crumbling but face the truth-it's over.
It's not the right time (I'm drinkin' vodka with my friends:) but still-"Russia doesn't care about countries like Honduras, Burkina Faso, Botswana, Burundi, Palau, Poland, Papua New Guinea and such"-yes, I know what You mean-Poland is part of the NATO & EU and you can do nothing about it. The "empire" is over-I know it hurts.
I apologize to all of guys who read this-but I can't stand being offended by some Russians. No hard feelings-I just wanted to...
...and I thin to myself-what I wonderfull world. I just heard this song on the radio-Louis Armstrong is kickin' ass, man:)
Sorry folks but I'm really drunk:)
O yeah!

Russian imperialism is not dead. It's just changed style. They pulled the tanks out of Eastern Europe and sent Anna Kournikova and T.a.T.u west instead.

Here's to Russian imperialism woot

[16 OBr SpN]

okok now stop it we all know that "mnighty" russia wont attack Poland (they are too stupid to be scared of us ;-)*Joke) nad Poland won't attrack this tiger of economics ;-) (we don't need cold siberia i prefer we counqer tunesia or canaris island) so stop fighting.
BTW jeah russia with help can deafeat us but as history show when you attack alone you get screwd and you loss so buzzoff (1920 and Warsaw battle)

Of course! Why would we attack Poland? They have this guy...
Who is the famous instructor who taught all SF units around the world? Who is the one who gets flags raised in his honor? Who is the creator of the world's deadliest shooting style?
Answer is Mr. Kossek! woot :D

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

[Vytiambergas]

Polska voiska Berlin brala Ruska voiska pomogala rofl rofl rofl

Its a joke about the power of Polish army! Grom is the best SF in the world rofl rofl rofl :D

[perdurabo]

there is no such thing as the best in the world but it is in topten :)
about berlin my fathers uncle was injured there and his got Virtuti Militari so you are right!!:P :)

[tony6]

Perdurabo&Hermannek-there's an interview with col. Polko in today's PZ.
www.polska-zbrojna.pl
Quite interesting.

[Herrmannek]

Perdurabo&Hermannek-there's an interview with col. Polko in today's PZ.
www.polska-zbrojna.pl
Quite interesting.

Thx, but PZ went on dogs, only half of the article :(

[tony6]

if You want all of it You have to buy a magazine:)

[Herrmannek]

if You want all of it You have to buy a magazine:)

Na, have better ways of money spending, and I'm copyright anarchist(hope no one will kill me for that) and I will not buy thing cost more than medium with it :).

[tony6]

I know what You mean but it costs only 2 PLN, man!
:)

[Herrmannek]

I know what You mean but it costs only 2 PLN, man!
:)

2PLN its meets my price criteria, it's cheap as toilet paper, hope it's not printed on such :).